Remember, kids - only professional athletes are allowed to drive drunk
by grungedave on Oct 24, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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Rafer Alston = Not Guilty.
This even after Alston admitted to having a few drinks to the officer.
After leaving a bar at 2:30am.
And, yes, he was driving.
The lesson? Athletes can drive drunk (or do most anything illegal) all they want, so long as no people or dogs get hurt.
Granted, I am somewhat happy with the result - the Rockets' only real weakness is depth at point guard, and Rafer is needed. Somewhat. But you'll never convince me he was sober when he was pulled over that night/morning.
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HAHA
It’s even better because Rafer just gave up and asked to be arrested, but he still get’s off.
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by DyingQuail on Oct 25, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe the dude was actually innocent
It’s not easy to win an acquittal in a DUII case. The facts need to be strongly on the defendant’s side. In this case there was probably no breath test, or if there was it came out below the legal limit. The prosecutor had to rely on testimony from the arresting officers. And when the jury saw the video of the arrest they concluded that the officers were mistaken and Mr. Alston was not drunk.
Let’s not turn this incident into another bogus tale about wicked conniving lawyers and defendants who get off on technicalities. In this case Mr. Alston had the facts on his side: he was not impaired.
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 25, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just not this time
fisheyes, I do respect your opinion here, I just disagree. I know a couple people in the DA’s office – they would not even prosecute Rafer if they didn’t have a legit case. Rafer refused a breathalizer test, he admitted to having a few drinks (and everyone always under-states how much they actually drank), and it was 2:30 in the morning on Washington Ave. And it’s Rafer we are talking about (a habitual f—k-up). As Chris Rock says, nothing good happens after 2am…
Besides, the only “wicked conniving lawyer” here is ME!
oh, and FDR?? really? Lee might freak out when he reads that!
by grungedave on Oct 26, 2008 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
So you believe that the DA had a legit case just because a couple people in the DA’s office said so? That is hardly a compelling reason. Surely the jurors who sat through all the evidence had better reasons than that to support of their verdict.
Now a question: In Texas, is the prosecution allowed to tell the jury that a DUII defendant refused to take a breath test? In Oregon the law used to prohibit the prosecution from revealing that to a jury. About twenty years ago the law was changed. Certainly the prospects of acquittal in cases where the defendant refused a breathtest are greater when the jury does not learn of the refusal. Please tell me what Texas law allows on this point.
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 26, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FDR? Really? The 3rd worst president of all time? Really? You think his New Deal was a good thing?
by UofTOrange on Oct 26, 2008 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes. absolutely.
Anyone whose brain hasn’t been destroyed from drinking thirty years of GOPuke kool-aid would recognize that the New Deal was not only a good thing, but that it saved our country from total ruin.
FDR saved capitalism from itself.
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 26, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey fisheyes, lighten up dude
We are guests here. Let’s try to remember that, OK?
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by LaMarvelous on Oct 26, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me, I'm being as light as I can
You shoulda seen my comment before I changed it because I didn’t want to be rude.
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 26, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new deal extended the depression by multiple years.
I’ve honestly never talked to anyone that in hindsight believed it was anything other than a catastrophe. FDR was a horrific, self serving president. I will drop this though, I promise you won’t convince me that I’m incorrect, and I know I won’t convince you otherwise either. Either way, let’s go Rockets!
by UofTOrange on Oct 26, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right on dude
Let’s go Rockets! And give the starting PG job to Aaron Brooks. He doesn’t commit crimes and his pull up jumper is money.
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 26, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's very simple
The DA/prosecution would not go to trial with Rafer if they didn’t have a legit case. Just because an arrest is made doesn’t require the charges to continue – especially when the defendant is high profile. They clearly had what they believed was a solid case The refusal to take a breathalizer is not admissible as a statement/admission against interest under the TRE, but any juror who isn’t a complete dumbass would realize that the cops would put that evidence in front of them if the defendant actually took the test…
and FDR was freaking terrible. The whole concept of a lazy American who waits for the government to bail them out was born because of the New Deal. His policies were short-term relief that served to do long-term damage. Just like this new bail-out bill that Congress passed.
by grungedave on Oct 26, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it possible that a juror would assume that
the reason the DA didn’t introduce the breath test results is because the defendant PASSED?
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 27, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhhh, yeah, but...
Would a DA really bring a case against a defendant who PASSED the breathalizer??! Tax payers wouldn’t take too kindly to that.
by grungedave on Oct 27, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
happens rather frequently
If a driver is visibly impaired but passes the breath test, the cops and the DA are still inclined to charge him with DUII. Usually they demand a urine sample if the breath test is negative.
And the winner is … Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Remember him—the great Democratic president who saved capitalism from the capitalists by reining in their exorbitant greed? Forget the Reagan Revolution heralding a new era of small government, which turned out to be nothing more than a fig leaf for legalized corporate crime. The hero of the hour is FDR, as the essential wisdom of his New Deal is now embraced by most Republicans as well as Democrats.
by fisheyes on Oct 27, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but...
With high-profile defendants they do NOT go to trial if there is a doubt about the sobriety of the defendant at the time of arrest. Too many questions can be raised later – and the DA generally tries to avoid looking like a fool.
by grungedave on Oct 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to basketball
I love Brooks and think he is the perfect change of pace guard we need but would never in a million years start him over Alston. Mark my words, this will be his best season by a mile.
by McFly on Oct 26, 2008 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, I think Rafer is going to have a great season by his standards.
Just look at Rajon Rondo, not the best PG in the league by a million miles, but he had a damn good season with his big three last year
by UofTOrange on Oct 27, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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