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First, a disclaimer:  Yes, the Lakers are a very, very good basketball team.  They clearly deserved to win last night.  On the flip side, the Rockets did not look all that inspiring last night and 29 point losses are never good things.  Shooting 37% from the field makes for ugly games.  And as a Rockets fan, I found the effort unacceptable. 

That said:  You Laker fans really need to chill the f--k out.  I'm not even kidding.

Yes, your Lakers are 5-0.  Whoopty-doo!!  The freakin' Hawks are 5-0, too and I don't see anyone crowning them NBA Champions already.

Yes, the Rockets have some issues to address.  Yao looks very slow.  T-Mac looks like he has aged 15 years in the offseason.  Ron Artest has yet to mesh with the offense and relies on one-on-one moves and 3 point shots too much right now.  Rafer is shooting even worse than he did last November - and that's saying something.  Shane Battier is still hurt (injured?).  Chuck Hayes still plays wayyyy too many minutes.  Brent Barry hasn't really contributed anything yet.  Luther Head still sucks.  Scola and Landry haven't been used property or enough.

But to anyone who thinks the Rockets are "frauds" or who thinks the Yao/T-Mac/Artest trio is really something you want to face in April when the "real" games begin....... you, sir (or madam), are a certifiable moron.  Repeat:  moron.

Write this down ----- in February, you are going to forget how the Rockets looked "sluggish" in November.  By February, the Rockets are going to look like a fine-tuned machine that destroys everything in their path.  That will include you, L.A.

And as a final sidenote, reading comments on a Lakers-themed blog is actually kind of sad.  I realize that being snarky and cruel is the common bond among Internet commenters, but some of these Laker fan sites I have read today have the most unoriginal and sad comments ever.  When Lee or I actually made the effort to congratulate the Lakers... the commenters would turn around and call us derogatory names that even I hesitate to re-print here.  And I'll print just about any kind of s--t on this blog!  At the very least, if you're going to slander me, have the courtesy to be witty or creative!!  It's the least you can do...

in the meantime, you're just going to make Yao angry.  And you won't like him when he's angry.

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chill out?

So if the Lakers played the Hawks tomorrow on a neutral court you would take the Hawks? If not then your 5-0 vs. 5-0 comment sounds like sour grapes. Yeah laker fans can be over the top, but you’re not exactly helping your cause with your “wait until later in the year when we steamroll everyone” comments. You got smoked badly, and it wasn’t just Adelman’s rotations either. Give credit where it is due, and “chill the "f” out. It’s just basketball man.

by pslakerfan on Nov 10, 2008 9:16 PM CST   0 recs

you fail at reading comprehension

Did you or did you not read the freakin’ disclaimer? The Lakers are DAMN good and we did not expect the Rockets to win last night. All credit to you has been given. I am merely asking Laker fans to not feel compelled to question our sexuality when gloating about one single game — which we congratulated you on many times over.

by grungedave on Nov 10, 2008 9:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I fail at reading comprehension?

I guess you fail at reading, period. What did I say that was incorrect. Did you not compare us to the Hawks? Did you not say you were going to steamroll everyone by February? Did you not blame the loss on Adelman’s rotations? Did you not use the phrase “chill the f-out”? Did I not say “yeah Laker fans can be over the top”? I guess you haven’t taken you pill yet or you would probably be able to admit I am right. We will see.

by pslakerfan on Nov 10, 2008 11:38 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

by the way...

I couldn’t figure out why Mark Cuban was banning bloggers until just now. Because real journalists don’t use phrases like “Pau is a pussy” or “chill the f-out”, or “did you not read the freakin’ disclaimer”. Keep working at it, you can only get better.

by pslakerfan on Nov 10, 2008 11:40 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Is this guy for real?

Real journalist? last time I checked, both the dream shake guys were just big fans and both had other jobs. I dont understand this statement and why it would even be considered an insult. But in all fairness- bro your wrong. The blog never equated the hawks to the lakers, just the fact they have the same records… in fact I have no idea why I’m getting in on this, but I just felt compelled to defend these guys. They have every right to say chill out, laker fans were complaining about being ranked number 2 on espn- come on! its week 2! Dream Shake keep it up.

by Hayesfor48mins on Nov 11, 2008 12:45 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

defending your bloggers............

well color me shocked!!!!!! So Grungedave can be an obnoxious homer but Laker fans can’t? Is that your point. Hmmmmmmmm Okay. Yeah he did equate them to the Hawks if you want to nit picks. And for the record you know exactly why you are getting into this – Like most teams fans you feel the need to defend your teams (or bloggers) position, truth be damned. Good for you, that is your job. I thought his job was to be honest and maybe a little bit realistic. I was wrong.

There are two types of bloggers out there. The ones who try to be serious and the ones who don’t. I just mis-interpreted this one. No big deal. Forum Blue and Gold, The Laker Nation, The LA Times laker Blog, are all serious bloggers. Since the Dream Shake seems to share info, or opinions with them I though they were serious too. Again, my bad.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 2:01 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Are you butthurt?

You sound butthurt.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 8:08 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

?????

What is butthurt????

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:09 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

You

I thought I made that clear. You are butthurt.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Again for the ones with an IQ.....

What the hell is butthurt? Or can you not even answer a simple question?

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:26 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Look around the internet

It’s what you’re using right now. See, type “butthurt” into a search engine – you know what that is, right? – and look it up yourself.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 12:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

The point he was trying to make with the record comparisons is that the early undefeated record means absolutely nothing at this point. Obviously, he picked the Hawks because they are not on the same level as the Lakers.

I saw nothing wrong with the steamroll comment. And if you think it’s on the same line as calling someone a “faggot”, then you got some problems. The Lakers fans he was referring to were way out of line, and that’s what he had issues with.

by erod on Nov 11, 2008 8:23 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

of course...

When the Lakers go on a losing streak, he’ll probably change his screenname to “psBRUINfan”

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 8:39 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

weak, really weak.

Is that really the best you have got?

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

It was a joke

Plus, how on earth is it possible to be a fan of both? You won’t see my cheering for OU or A&M anytime soon. Not willingly anyway (Damn you Texas Tech!!!)

by UofTOrange on Nov 11, 2008 2:42 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Of course it's possible

He likes USC during football season (they’re good at football, you see), but he likes UCLA during basketball season (they’re better at basketball). Just as he will inevitably jump ship to the Clippers when hell freezes over and they are a title contender.

It’s the same principle that allows him to be both an Angels and Dodgers fan – a property that I was assured was an impossibility.

It’s the mantra of the fair-weather Greater Los Angeles Area Sports Fan: I like whoever is best.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 8:59 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I’ll be dead before the Clippers have a good season.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:12 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

So are you two years old or something?

Because I seem to recall them having a pretty good season two years ago.

And that does nothing to change the fact that you are a fair-weather bandwagon fan who latches onto whichever team in your area is doing well. Hence being a fan of USC and UCLA, and the Dodgers and Angels. If the Clippers did well, you would fellate them.

Face it: you know nothing about the teams you claim to be a fan of, and you are talking out of your ass.

And you’re butthurt.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 12:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Two and a half actually.

Thanks for asking. I guess I could have said “another good season”, but who cares? They suck and even that good season wasn’t that good.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

You are a true front runner

Only an asshole would like the Trojans Football and the Bruins basketball team. It figures because you’re an idiot, but I’m glad you aren’t from Sacramento. (Or maybe i"m only hoping for that. It would be bad luck if you are.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 12:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Actually I am.......from Sacramento

Oops. I guess you didn’t see that one coming.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah it figures

You’re still a stupid ass moron.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 12:25 PM CST to parent up   1 recs

nice...

Yeah that was impressive.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I really hope you aren't moving back

And I’m thankful you aren’t a Kings fan. I’m very thankful of that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 12:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

?????????

What the hell are you talking about? Faggot? What did I say that had anything to do with that??

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Did you read the blog post?

You made a reference to his comment about Lakers fans being over the top. There is a reason why he said that (with links to back it up). I don’t think you read that at all, so I don’t really know why you made a reference to it.

by erod on Nov 11, 2008 4:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

again

And what did my post have to do with you?
It was about Laker fans in general.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 10:38 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

That actually has nothing to do with his banning of bloggers, but good effort.

And the entire point of blogging is that I’m not a “real journalist”. Why would I want to be hindered by unecessary rules? I don’t have to bow down to players because they won’t give me an interview if I don’t. I get to tell you exactly how I see it. I’ll take being a blogger over being a journalist any day.

by UofTOrange on Nov 11, 2008 8:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Nothing makes Jazz fans look sympathetic

I’m just going to assume you’re suffering from a temporary case of “we haven’t played the Jazz yet so you’ve temporarily forgotten how much their fans need to be repeatedly carved with a grapefruit spoon.”

I don’t hold it against Laker fans TOO much, because it’s their nature. Anyone who’s a “fan” of any LA team could jump ship at any second and run to whomever they feel is the most likely to win next. You didn’t see any of these dyed-in-the-wool Laker fans before they became title contenders again.

You just have to pat them on their heads, roll your eyes, and look forward to our next crack at them when we have some of our injury and chemistry issues worked out.

by HoustonDiehards on Nov 10, 2008 10:37 PM CST   0 recs

Hold the eff up...

What? What? Don’t you ever….EVER compare us to Lakers fans. I feel offended…yet justified.

I guess you just have to accept that the Rockets are a second tier team in the West. Don’t worry though, you always have the second round…wait…

We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com

by CB Jack on Nov 10, 2008 11:22 PM CST   0 recs

Dave asked me who I dislike more, Lakers fans or Jazz fans

My response was: “At least Jazz fans can insult you in complete sentences.”

by UofTOrange on Nov 11, 2008 8:35 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

The level of hate on SBN just rose with you guys

It’s rather awesome I must admit.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 12:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Funnily enough

We got made fun of for being too nice to SLCDunk on LA Radio last year.

by UofTOrange on Nov 11, 2008 2:44 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

LA Radio stinks

That’s like telling you traffic sucks on the 705 because traffic on the 405 in LA is moving. Or some stupid shit like that.

Your hate is specialized. And funny.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 3:03 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm here now

So that time is over.

by HoustonDiehards on Nov 11, 2008 6:05 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

The Rockets will never get respect

Ever. No one ever gives them respect. Hell, the Championship Rockets didn’t even get respect.

The bottom line is it’s too early in the season to tell anything about the Rockets at this point. We don’t even have Battier back yet. C’mon now. That’s our best defensive player. Give it time. I know I’m not in panic mode yet. I’m just going to let it play out.

by erod on Nov 11, 2008 8:17 AM CST   0 recs

Well said.

And it was simultaneously hilarious and disturbing that the fans over at Clutch Fans were talking about trading T-Mac and Yao after each bad possession. The team has been together for only a few weeks. McGrady is still rusty. They’re still figuring out the system. In a month, they’ll be unstoppable.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 9:01 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

follow up note

I would like to thank pslakerfan for indirectly proving my entire point in this post.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 8:42 AM CST   0 recs

Oh yeah. Sorry I was such an asshole Laker fan by pointing out that your post was a tad bit ridiculous and that you might be a little sensitive after a beatdown. My bad. I guess if that is what you are talking about when you describe “Laker fans” then you must have a really difficult life. It’s called reality Dave, get over it.

Something tells me you will just copy and paste this post everytime you guys lose and change the names. Waaaaaaaa we lost, and here is why it is everyone else’s fault. Blah, blah, blah.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:15 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

cause/effect

You do realize that in every game there are reasons why a team loses… and why a team wins, right?

The Lakers are really damn good. That is but one reason. I listed 5-7 additional reasons that factored into why the Rockets happened to lose by 29. Now, if the Rockets lose by 29 to the Lakers again this season, I will eat my shoe. We all know that’s not going to happen. In fact, the Rockets might actually win a game against L.A. this year… here’s hoping that doesn’t give you an aneurysm.

What makes me sad is the realization that if three years ago I said “damn, Smush Parker sucks!” you’d have run over here to defend his honor… please stop being short-sighted. It’s a long season.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 2:09 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

That's all every LA fan I know said 3 years ago

" You do realize it’s hard to criticize Kobe when Smush Parker is taking shots away from him right? "
" You do realize it’s hard to play defense with Smush Parker on the team, right? "

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 2:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Smush Parker?

You really think any Laker fan would defend Smush Parker? Next we will be defending Luke Walton….You know Laker fans about as well as I know Lee/UofTOrange.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 6:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I actually knew multiple fans that defended him

Though I wouldn’t say they were in the majority

by UofTOrange on Nov 11, 2008 8:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Lakers won.

Not an excuse, but how many back to backs do we have this season. Does every team have the same amount of back to backs?

Your a ten, but I'm on eleven!

by JakedaSnake on Nov 11, 2008 8:48 AM CST   0 recs

I believe we have 19

19 back to backs…. and like 12 of them end on the road.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 9:03 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

psLakersFan

This troll has been making the rounds. Last year in the second round (Not sure if Dave was watching or if he was still in his basement at this point) this guy lit a fire under Jazz fans. His comments are ludacris, and I’m not talking about the rapper. I am sick and tired of Lakers fans acting like they rule sports ranks. Your time will come Lakers fans. Let the Dream Shake and True Blue Jazz be united in one thing….a hatred for all things purple and gold.

We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com

by CB Jack on Nov 11, 2008 11:16 AM CST   0 recs

but...

I like Kobe. And Phil.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 11:27 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Screw Kobe

dude pulled that “I’ve got to play for the Lakers” thing at draft day. That kind of crap ruins the purpose of the draft. I’m going to give Steve Francis a break on not wanting to play for Vancouver, though, because nobody should have to play in Canada.

And Phil Jackson is overrated.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 12:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Huh.......

I think you are mistaking Kobe with Eli Manning. Kobe didn’t have anything to do with that trade. But you’re only a lad so you were probably about 7 at the time. You are forgiven.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:20 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ha ha - I see what you did there! Very clever, sir!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/2001/05/26/sayitaintso_lakers/

Read it and weep. Like I said, you’re a fair weather fan who doesn’t even know the history of his so-called “favorite team”

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 12:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, OK.

“He seemed to be giving off a vibe that only a city like L.A. was big enough to hold him.”

that is the proof you are talking about? Wow that is ironclad. How could I have doubted you?

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:30 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Read a little closer

Essentially, Bryant had been saying for months that he wasn’t going to play anywhere but LA. So any team that wanted to draft him had to do so knowing that they would have to trade away his draft rights, lest he accept a scholarship offer and go to college for a year.

This sort of thing is done all the time in baseball. That’s alright, because it usually centers around cash – not where a player is going to play. But that’s what happened with Bryant – he was a whiny little punk who couldn’t play anywhere but LA, so he forced the team that drafted him to trade him away.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 12:40 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

why is this a problem

When you are an athlete, there are VERY few times in your life where you have leverage… being a top draft pick is one of those times. How the hell can we ever get mad at Eli, Kobe, or even John Elway for using that leverage to dictate where they want to live/work in their professional lives???

I have no problem with what those guys did. None.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 2:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Let me put it this way

I don’t have as much of a problem with what Eli Manning, John Elway, or Steve Francis did because they seemed to have an explicit problem with the organization that drafted them.

In contrast, Kobe just wanted to play in Los Angeles. It was less of a problem with the organizational incompetence of San Diego / Baltimore / Vancouver, and more of a simple desire to play for the Lakers.

Now, in normal occupations, this is a legitimate concern. But sports leagues have to balance players’ desires with the needs of the league – parity. The draft is designed to promote parity, and Kobe destroyed that purpose by demanding a trade.

He had every right to do this, and I’m not saying he should have been penalized by the NBA, but I am saying that he is a bit of a dick for doing it.

by Only_A_Lad on Nov 11, 2008 2:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

no way

That’s what makes Kobe awesome. He was only 18 years old and still knew what level of power he had over the league.

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 2:56 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

sorry lad, but you're wrong on this one.

Eli said he wouldn’t play in San Diego. Kobe (supposedly) said he wanted to play in LA. At least he wasn’t disrespecting any organization in particular like Eli. Secondly if Charlotte knew this about Kobe then they drafted him on purpose to get Vlade Divac, so don’t act like they didn’t get what they wanted.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 6:03 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Funnily enough

I thought Francis & Bryant were both punks for pulling it. And I think the whole Vancouver travesty should get Stern’s ass booted out the door.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 12:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I hate Phil but respect him

I’m tired of Kobe’s act, but I will recognize he’s the best hooper since MJ.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 11, 2008 12:20 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Hey, CB, nice to see you.

Yeah still trolling. Actually I call it reality, but whatever. If I remember correctly last year you didn’t think I was a troll, but I guess you have gone to the dark side where dissent is automatically labeled trolling. Or maybe I am mistaking you with someone else. Whatever. Sounds like you and Dave get along really well. If you don’t mean Ludacris, then spell it ludicrous. It’s easier. Oh yeah it’s Forum Blue and Gold, not purple.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 12:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

PS

You’re trolling is reality? Awesome world you live in man.

I probably did think you were a troll. My definition of a troll is still the same. troll = a bored lakers fan living of Dad’s real estate business and going on 7 years trying to get a USC degree via online classes.

Yep. Still a troll. You should just call University of Phoenix and finally live up to your potential.

Who said anything about Forum Blue and Gold? I’m sure they love you trolling around defending them. Lakers are purple and yellow. Nothing more. Nothing less.

We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com

by CB Jack on Nov 11, 2008 2:09 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

shit.

Your not You’re. and to think I was bagging on your education. Damn the Utah school systems!

We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com

by CB Jack on Nov 11, 2008 2:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

wow you are smarter than you think.

Actually my dad really is in real estate. Good call. However I don’t work for him, I am in construction. And I am 33 and married and am way beyond school years. Thanks for the concern though it is touching.

And the color is called Forum Blue, not purple. I wasn’t talking about the website.

Must have been some other Jazz fan I was thinking of, my bad.

by pslakerfan on Nov 11, 2008 6:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I never knew that

Always thought it was purple. But I’m colorblind so what the crap do I know

by UofTOrange on Nov 11, 2008 8:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I can call my turds vanilla-flavored...

doesn’t necessarily make it so.

That shit is purple.

Yay, sports.

by MDC on Nov 13, 2008 9:32 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

now we can agree on something

If you don’t mean Ludacris, then spell it ludicrous

A grammar nazi! Hey, we have something in common now!
I might have a little bit of respect for you after all…

by grungedave on Nov 11, 2008 2:30 PM CST to parent up