Game 12 - Houston Rockets vs. Dallas Mavericks Wednesday 7:00PM CST
I'm assuming that all three guys are playing tonight. If not, I still think the Rockets are better, even with Von Wafer in the lineup. The X factor, as always in Mavs/Rockets games is Jason Terry. When he gets it going the Rockets usually have problems. The Mavericks defense has been horrendous this year, letting up almost 100 points a game while only scoring 98. As of today, the Rockets defense is letting up the least points in the league at almost 89.
The Match-ups:
Alston vs. Kidd: Kidd is old and beaten down, but still averaging 10 and 8 a game. Rafer is a mediocre player, but is at 9 and 4. His defense hasn't been as good this year, but it's still been solid.
Edge: Even - I think Rafer is one of the few guys that is strong enough to D up Kidd, that's the only reason I'm calling it even.
McGrady vs. Green/Wright: Tracy, you are slowly killing me, seriously man, stop getting hurt. I don't think I can go through this for another 2 seasons. And nobody is going to trade for you with all these ailments. Not that we should trade him, not saying that at all, but if it doesn't work out this year (at LEAST round 2 of the playoffs), that will be what we try to do to get his number off the books. Gerald Green wasn't good enough to make this team. Antoine Wright is extremely athletic, but got a better education in HS than at A&M according to him. Sorry, just had to throw that out there for a few of my Aggie friends.
Edge: Rockets - Even a hobbled McGrady will be forced to destroy these two
Artest vs. Howard: This should be the best match-up of the night. I know I keep saying that with Artest, but it is true. While he hasn't been the scoring boost we thought he would be to date, he has done all of the little things right. Those little things are the real reason that Daryl Morey brought him to Houston. Howard has been outstanding so far this year. He won't sing the national anthem, but he does score 20 and board 8 a game. His free throw percentage is the only thing off about his offense right now. His defense is suspect, but he always brings a little extra against the Rockets.
Edge: Even - Howard's offense vs. Artest's defense
Scola vs. Nowitzki: Dirk is shooting the worst percentage of his career this year but has chosen to just shoot more to keep his scoring up. He's still the best scoring power forward in the league. He can't guard Scola though, and I'm hoping that Adelman is starting to see that Scola could easily average 18 on this team and 20 on a team without so many scorers. His minutes have been up the last two games and it has paid big dividends on the court.
Edge: Mavericks - Dirk is one of my favorite players in the league. Yes, he's a flopper, but he at least does it with style like Battier.
Yao vs. Dampier: I'm not even going to comment anymore this season on this match-up, it's not a match-up, it's a mismatch. Erick Dampier isn't qualified to even be on the court with Yao.
Edge: Rockets - Again, Erick Dampier sucks, badly
My prediction: Rockets win, even with our three hobbled stars overall Houston just has too much for the Mavericks if they play their game. Of course, I said something
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Mavs had to play last night @ Charlotte
As long as our big guys are healthy enough to play well, we should win this in convincing fashion. Hopefully our team defense that swarmed the Hornets shows up again today.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 19, 2008 10:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll just say it now
If the Rockets lose tonight (with or without McGrady),
I will cry. A lot.
by grungedave on Nov 19, 2008 11:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yao out tonight
Here’s what we know so far: Yao Ming (foot) is probably out this evening, as the team is taking a precautionary approach with his sore left foot. Meanwhile, Tracy McGrady (knee) and Ron Artest (ankle) are definitely playing, but it’s difficult to know just how effective they’ll be or how many minutes their bodies will allow them to spend on the floor.
Landry at center? or Hayes at the 4 moving Scola to the 5?
by Cornholio on Nov 19, 2008 1:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was just creating a post about that very thing.
It is up now.
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Watching the pre-game stuff
I’m always amazed at how well JVG speaks of Daryl Morey and the Rockets. I wouldn’t speak that highly of the guy who fired me.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Never thought we should have fired him.
…and i didn’t much care for the Adelman hire.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand the rationale behind it.
JVG was primarily a defensive coach, and Adelman has a reputation as good on offense. The Rockets naturally have good defense, so adding offensive movement is a good idea.
Whether or not that’s panning out right now, I don’t know.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Van Gundy is giving Adelman his endorsement
so there’s that
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, what else is he going to say?
Me, I’ll take a defensive coach over an offensive coach every day of the week.
But really – with the talent we have now, a big name like Adelman should be able to make it work.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he wanted to, I'm sure he could send the message that Adelman was a poor choice.
And, given the way that Van Gundy repeatedly spoke his mind while a coach, I suspect that JVG really means that he’s a good coach.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't dispute that.
I miss JVG also for what you just mentioned -he was a good quote. He also repeatedly spoke very highly of the city of Houston (and still lives there) so of course I love the guy for that.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Toyota Center is less than half full
…also – Tracy McGrady gets the call to jump for the tip-off? Seriously?
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's a Wednesday night.
Who wants to go to a game on a Wednesday? Even if it is against Dallas.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Novbitchski
Already crying.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that will finally make him shut his mouth
Every time he’s on the screen, it looks like he’s a slack-jawed yokel.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, JVG
You know Battier’s red jacket is bitchin’.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rafer has looked really good thus far
Unfortunately, our defense is bad and the Mavericks aren’t missing any open looks
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe that Barry missed that.
That was the most open look he’s seen in years.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice block from Scola
bad shot from Barry
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
I didn’t know you could get called for a moving pick when you have the ball- or at least I’ve never seen it get called before
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mark Cuban needs to shut his damn mouth
Not going to be laughing when he gets busted for either breach of contract or insider trading.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've always rather liked Cuban
I know he runs Dallas, and can be a whiny bitch, but I wouldn’t mind have him owning one of my teams. (Not to dis Les, of course- he’s been great)
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Horrible pass
Barry has been simply awful tonight
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Really, wtf was that
And please – contest the layup. It’s not like Barry is going to foul out.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's probably why I like Von Wafer so much
I have NOT been at all impressed with Barry or Head thus far
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So at this point is it safe to assume Tracy is hurt again?
He hasn’t played a minute in the 2nd, has he?
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well he's defnitely hurt
The question is how bad it is.
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah
You know what I mean though – safe to say he’s done for this game it looks like. Unless that Phoenix doctor can teleport to Houston for halftime.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Speak of the Devil
of course, as soon as you say that he’s back
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...and there he is, back in the game.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adelman's just limiting his minutes
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping that Wafer/Barry would play better
Well enough to let him sit for longer
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous
Dallas is a butter-soft team, and even without Yao there’s no reason they should be running us off our own court right now. Come on.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damn that would have been a fine dunk
T-Mac is just a little off.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well there you go - he can barely reach the rim.
Good thing he was the guy who jumped for the opening tip.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Look at our starting lineup
Would you have jumped Artest? Scola?
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scola is only an inch taller than McGrady
and Scola doesn’t really have any hops
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still, a lot less risk for injury with Scola doing the jump.
TMac doesn’t really have a whole lotta hops right now either. Anyway.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like the opening tip really makes a difference
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By which I mean I can understand jumping Scola
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah - I mean when he's in there we jump with Yao
And I bet he has a less than 50% success rate.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why even jump anybody for that matter?
Just let them have the tip
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The jump ball is just stupid
Go to a coin flip and alternating possessions
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can Rafer go one game without getting himself into a possible TK?
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For all we know he was telling the refs they'd called the foul on the wrong guy
which they had.
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love JVG
he says he was thinking about putting bikes in the locker room, and then jokes that that’s why he got fired.
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He is a fantastic basketball mind
He is the only announcer in the NBA that I actually listen to when they talk.
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I love his analysis
but I also love that he can joke about getting fired. I like Rick Adelman, but I still miss JVG
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You and me both
We have one of the few guys I can live with if we were going to let JVG go
And let’s be fair, even JVG said he handled it poorly. He was offered the chance to stay, he didn’t respond, they said they have to another route if he wasn’t already positive.
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it wasn't a good enough offer? I don't know.
I just know that I was PISSED when he left. I effing love JVG.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not from what I understand
It was more about his desire to coach any more. He works HARD. He has said that he gets 3 hours of sleep a night during the season, never sees his family and usually sleeps at the stadium. I think he really wondered if he wanted to do that anymore. Ultimately I think he realized he did.
However, you also have to add in how poor some of CD’s moves were towards the end as well. If you told him he was getting Artest, Scola and Landry you damn well better believe he would have answered yes.
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I respect that.
… and I really respect that it’s not even an option for him to change his routine and not continue to go by that intense schedule. I mean, let’s be honest – a great coach like JVG could still be a very good coach if he went at it 80% of the way he does.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how to feel about this game
Because I have no idea how we’re only down by seven.
by Jeffrey on Nov 19, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If Hayes fouls out
then Adelman may, indeed, be forced to unleash the Kraken.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know he can be a douche
But I still love everything about Cuban
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do to. I think he's GREAT for the league.
I mean – a fan who literally bought his favorite team. You can’t beat that.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
And he does more for his team than anyone else
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell do you get called for a loose ball foul from the front?
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is the worst offensive quarter in the history of basketball
I feel about 80% confident that this is true
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bobcats last night
I didn’t witness it, but they scored 10 points. Against Dallas
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this was the 1st quarter, of course
Their starting lineup ended up scoring 26 (!) points the entire game.
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh... whoa.
Is Adam Morrison even still in the league? Larry Brown can’t do anything with that bunch.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Morrison was actually 1-3 off the bench for 2 points
not that he deserves to play… ever.
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Comeback
We need a 4th quarter comeback!
by Daniel C on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The game does feel within reach, though
Our defense has been much better- we just need to hit open shots
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We were misfiring on all cylinders in the 3rd. Even the rectangular ones.
by Daniel C on Nov 19, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus the Mavs are practically BEGGING us to come back on them.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lack of yao is really hurting us this game
by Daniel C on Nov 19, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
........... where no defensive effort whatsoever happens......
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's time
for brooks to light up kidd on the drive and layup/dish
by Daniel C on Nov 19, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And there's a 3!!
Right after some great D
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No crap
He’s just not accurate right now
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The three can't be the only thing we can do
Need to drive and create
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice job by Crazy Pills
We need to settle down and stop jacking up threes unless it’s wide open.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He was trying to dish off, I thought everyone knew he was going to do that
Why weren’t they ready for the pass is my question?
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T-Mac? Brooks?
First T-Mac blows the wide open 5 footer and Brooks with the stupid foul
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In every way
You have to stop the shot
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea that Crazy Pills was into math.
Ron Artest: “Okay kids, if I get one technical every two games, how long will it be before I get a suspension?”
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've never watched a game where Ron has missed this many layups
He is usually a fantastic finisher
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not what I thought he meant by" NO LAYUPS!!!!"
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny cuz he's looked better within the offense
he’s just missing his shots
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright we made a layup
Still in it for sure!
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Kraken looked pissed
I can’t believe he didn’t play tonight
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Kraken will be released at the appropriate time.
You can’t just release the Kraken willy-nilly. Gotta wait for the right time to spring it on your unsuspecting victims.
And, should the Rockets win tonight, I’m sure the Kraken will be unleashed upon Houston’s strip clubs.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Landry didn't play until January
And he’s turned out well- so I don’t have a problem with Adelman making him prove himself in practice
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dorsey is not as skilled as Landry I do not think. But you really need to let him play in a game like this
No one was hitting anything, might as well give him a shot
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In the history of ESPN, I have never hated anyone more than Stu Scott
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like him.
His lazy eye reminds me of T-Mac, and his “other side of the pillow” crap makes me want to kill myself. As a self-hating person (it’s why I’m a Houston sports fan), that helps me out.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
surprisingly why we haven't figured out to stop leaving jason terry open
by Daniel C on Nov 19, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
See my preview
Since he’s been in Dallas I don’t know that we’ve ever stopped him
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
Tracy McGrady can do some phenomenal stuff
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
GOD I'm so sick of that. Bust him in the chops if you have to.
I mean – not in this game situation… but other times.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I watched it twice and it was understandable
Scola put a hand into the Bitchki’s back
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A hand in the back isn't really illegal though
He didn’t seem to push him
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just watched it again
And Dirk is a flopping bitch
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our ft shooting
came to bite us right in the ass today
by Daniel C on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What the fudge?
Why not foul Jason Kidd there???
by UofTOrange on Nov 19, 2008 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Trying for the steal
Which I can understand- how often do you really see teams lose by missing freethrows?
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate losing to the Mavs. They're so, SO butter-soft. It's embarrassing.
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's how I imagine opposing fans feel when they lose to the Texans. /ouch
by HoustonDiehards on Nov 19, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa now
nothing can be quite that bad.
Well, maybe losing to the Thunder or the Lions.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't underestimate how bad losing to the Bobcats would be
Or the Spurs without 2 of their stars… wait a second… didn’t we do that already?
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you guys....
give us dumb Dallasites a call on attendance, I really like the team the Rockets have put together this year, just curious why no one is coming to watch them?
by bbob on Nov 19, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rockets games have always had poor attendance
and with fewer people going to games league-wide of course our attendance is gonna suck. Of course, it doesn’t help that stadium officials seem to go out of their way to keep people in the Toyota center placid (which of course makes the whole experience less rewarding)
by jack_ on Nov 19, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rockets attendance tends to hang around the middle third of the league.
I blame it on the Rockets being the only of Houston’s major franchises (Dynamo doesn’t count) with a championship. That’s just strange, so people get weirded out and don’t show up.
Oh, and Houstonians have a habit of not showing up to any sporting event until at least twenty minutes have passed. It’s just the way we are. We like to mingle.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 19, 2008 11:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm...
You’re right… the Rockets were 16th in the league last year in home attendance, and are currently 15th.
I thought maybe the arena size had something to do with it, but we’re pretty average in terms of capacity, too.
by jack_ on Nov 20, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And it looks worse on tv because of the clients they do draw
Season ticket holders in the lower sidelines of the bowl have a bar to go to, and it is always packed
by UofTOrange on Nov 20, 2008 7:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sports -
driving Houstonians to drink since 1959!
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 20, 2008 8:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Artest
needs to stop impersonating Bonzi Wells. Sure, he gives us good defense and effort, but other than that it’s a carbon copy of Bonzi. Great rebounding night, went to the line a lot, but bricked his FTs, shot a lot of jumpers, and bricked them, and he blew a lot of layups.
by goingforthecorner on Nov 20, 2008 3:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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