Game 20 - Houston Rockets vs. Golden State Warriors, Friday 7:30PM CST
Golden State Warriors at Houston Rockets, Dec 5, 2008 7:30 PM CST
I usually try to go through old box scores to see how the other team is starting their players when I do the previews. I have to be honest, I have no idea what is going on with Golden State. This team is probably put together more poorly than any team in the league right now. I like a lot of their players individually but few of them should be on the same team. I feel bad for Warriros fans, they are some of the best around and this is just not fair.
The Match-ups:
Alston vs. Crawford: Crawford is still fitting working on fitting in, but scoring is something he is very capable of and that's what the Warriors want from him. I expect him to score a lot this season, but still not play defense. Rafer Alston has played borderline well the last 4 games. His shooting has been better and he is distributing the ball. He's still having a bad overall season. But maybe something has clicked? Maybe he's finally getting those shooting reps in that he didn't in the offseason due to surgery? One can always hope.
Edge: Rockets: They don't actually employ a starting PG on the Warriors right now, so I'm giving the nod to the Rockets even though Crawford is clearly the better player
Head/Battier vs. Jackson: I love Stephen Jackson. There I said it. He's a fantastic basketball player, albeit also crazy in the head. He's also a Texas guy, so I have a soft spot in my heart for him. He can completely dissapear, as he has in his last two games going 2-11 in both, but most nights he's there for you. I'm not sure who is going to start tonight. I truly believe that Battier and Alston should not be in the lineup together most nights, but this night, with the Warriors brand of ball, they probably should be. Head put up his usual 1 to 1 A to TO ratio last game but he did hit a few big shots. This game just isn't the right one for him to start
Edge: Warriors: It's not by much, but it's an edge nonetheless over Battier
Artest vs. Maggette: You think Maggette is wishing he signed with any other team in the league? San Antonio is looking pretty good, isn't it?
Edge: Even: Maggette is their best player, but historically he and Arest have played to a standstill.
Luis Landry vs. Wright: Wright should be a good player in this league. He's not ready for Scola's savvy or Landry's power though. He will have height, but he's 6'1- and only weighs 210
Edge: Rockets: Clearly
Yao vs.Biedrins: Domination
Edge: Rockets: That's what's going to happen
My Prediction: I don't remember when I said I'd start prediciting outcomes again, but it wasn't game 20. Can you believe the season is almost a quarter of the way through? My only predicition for tonight is that Yao will score, and score a lot.
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I lol'd...
…at the Yao/Biedrins comparison. This is a game we should win by 10-14 points, but the Rox being the Rox I’m sure it will come down to the final two or three possesions deciding the victor.
I’m not able to attend tonight but it would be nice to see a little life from the crowd at TC…I’m sure that won’t be the case either.
by Texan_Dawg on Dec 5, 2008 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maggette
Artest vs. Maggette: You think Maggette is wishing he signed with any other team in the league? San Antonio is looking pretty good, isn’t it?
Maggette isn’t really concerned with winning. He wanted two things. A. More Money & B. More shoots. He got them, and he happened to play on a winning team under those circumstances, he’d take it. I can’t blame him for maximizing his earning potential(God knows I’m doing the same), but it’s funny you wrote that nugget about him playing for a winner because he simply doesn’t care.
"....It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners!" - Mike Singletary
by DennardC on Dec 5, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Who was it complaining about how the Rockets never dunk?
Artest just copied (more or less) T-Mac’s dunk on Shawn Bradley. Impressive.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 5, 2008 7:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not as impressive when replayed
but still impressive
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 5, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. He looks like he belongs in the NBA.
by Xiane on Dec 5, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ronny Turiaf
is the only Warrior with a positive +/-. So I guess it’s a good thing the guy has five fouls at halftime already. Not being able to see the game, I must ask: what the heck was Nellie thinking?
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was a touch foul on Randolph
I would have let it go.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just caught up to that
Nice airballs tonight by crawford as well
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The NBA is freaking stupid
I can’t believe nothing is being done about this flopping BS. I don’t mind falling down after you get hit for real and exagerrating bc the refs are too stupid to know it’s a foul without that. But flopping on purpose is obvious and should be a suspension. Period
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's extra ridiculous about it
is that Yao has to be fucking mugged to get a call in his favor. Refs are in no way close to consistent on foul calls.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 5, 2008 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Followed by the crappy early three by Rafer
which led to the Maggete fast break.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don Nelson might have a good reason to be pissed
Need to see the replay to be sure.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, he has very good reason
But it’s the exact same thing they’ve let Biedrens get away with about 80 times this game
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And there he goes
Personally I think he just wants to duck out early to grab a beer, considering how badly the team is getting outrebounded.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Saw him about 9:30 this morning at the Park Shops in Houston
Along with the rest of the coaching staff. He looked drunk then too
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One unintended side effect of Nelson getting ejected
is that the assistants are finally playing Brandon Wright. The result: four points in less than two minutes.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You are correct
You’d think as bad as they have been that they’d play as many of the young guys as possible
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jackson is a bad mofo
I love that guy
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 9:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Randolph gets his shit rocked
about time
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 5, 2008 9:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Foul + defensive goaltending
Never saw that combo before.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yao has been outstanding in the second half
Wonder if that dunk by Randolph lit a fire in him.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And now we have two Warriors foul out
with nearly four and a half minutes left. Is that a new record?
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 9:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is the most blatant example
of the refs’ bias against Yao that I’ve seen all season. The Warriors practically have to kick him in the balls to foul him.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 5, 2008 9:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
131 points
In regulation, too. I could get used to this.
by Jeffrey on Dec 5, 2008 10:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's the Warriors...
They barely play any defense, I was a little disappointed about our defense though…
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Dec 5, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
20 games in...
How are we doing on that pre-season prediction?
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Dec 5, 2008 10:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Actually
We’d have to finish 49 – 13. If you look at our schedule through Jan and Feb, that’s no completely impossible
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I keep replying to myself...but...
That’s almost 800 ball the rest of the way. I’ll reassess on Jan 1
by UofTOrange on Dec 5, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Rockets Effort - Question and Thoughts
Golden State – Wow, this may be the best YMCA pickup team of all time. These guys would never lose a casual gym game. In a couple of years they may even be capable of winning a ton of NBA games, because there’s a lot of talent there. In the league, however, there are referees, who while 80% blind, will award free throws 20% of the time, which is enough to doom GS. The Rockets margin of victory is excellent free throw shooting.
I watched the second half again, and if my life ever slows down I’m going to start compiling a video of all the uncalled fouls on Yao. I’d do this to prove my point to skeptics, but there’s an easier way to track fouls on Yao. It’s a rule in two parts. Part 1 – every time Yao gets the ball low – he’s fouled, usually more than once. Part 2 – 70% of the time Yao tries to establish position down low, he’s fouled. 30% of the time no one is trying to play D.
Yes, all those other blogs out there (you know who you are, Utah lurkers, for God’s sake go skiing and then get drunk in a hot tub rather than reading Rockets blogs, ok? at least drink some hawaiian punch) will say this is crazed homerism, but if I ever make my video you’ll see the evidence. It’s practically impossible to play defense on Yao that is both a) legal and b)effective. He’s an outlier, like Wilt was before him – I wish the refs would stop pretending he’s just another guy and call what they see, even if it means a billion whistles. It may simply be that Yao can’t be stopped within the NBA rules as they exist.
Ok got that out of my system.
Here’s a question – are the Rockets better when they revolve around Yao, rather than trying to revolve around both McGrady and Yao. Make no mistake, I don’t think we’re better without McGrady, far from it. I just wonder if they ought to center the game plan around Yao (or possibly McGrady – depending on the opponent) the way the Lakers, with all their depth and talent, center around Kobe?
Tonight we seemed to see Artests stroke return, but Golden State almost steps out of your way on shots, so you so they can get back on offense that much faster. Also, it seems like Yao’s and McGrady’s games (when he’s TMac and driving the hoop) don’t really mesh all that well, whereas Artest is more like the ultimate support player – he can conform his game to what his star teamate does best. If it’s play inside, he’s a shooting threat, if its shoot and drive, he can post most guys up. If you need him to be the high scorer, he can do that too.
by Xiane on Dec 6, 2008 12:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
In the replying to yourself tradition
I’d just like to say that I’d like to see the Rockets doing some of this 1980s Nuggets scoring more often. 131. Wow.
by Xiane on Dec 6, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that T-Mac and Yao are a good pair.
T-Mac (it seems to me) knows how to feed Yao the ball, as well as how to create his own shot. But I think the Rockets’ offense has always revolved, basically, around Yao. T-Mac offers fantastic scoring ability (when he’s healthy), but Yao has been the focus of the Rockets’ offense since he was drafted.
The problem, as I see it, is not competition between Yao and McGrady for shots, but between McGrady and Artest. The last few games, McGrady hasn’t been playing, so it isn’t such an issue. But when McGrady is back at the end of the month, I think we can expect to see Artest playing as part of the second unit, a-la Ginobili, for exactly the reasons you describe. He’s a surprisingly versatile player (though that versatility still gets him in trouble – he takes way too many outside shots), and I don’t see why he should be on the court at the same time as T-Mac. Their games are far too similar for that to work well. Moreover, I think that any competition between the two for shots will inevitably take shots away from Yao. Yao is our most productive player, so Adelman needs to avoid that.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 6, 2008 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and ESPN says that tonight was the most the Rockets have scored in 13 years!
Wow! Damn, the Warriors’ defense sucks.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 6, 2008 12:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The last few games
I’m seeing the JVG-version of Yao. Just flat out dominating and going to the line, regardless of how he’s being double/triple teamed. Before, getting double teamed was an automatic pass. Now he’s still trying to score at will.
Hopefully this is a permanent change in his mentality, rather than going back to diaper soft once T-Mac returns. Even when he’s back, we need Yao to play like THIS every game. Defer to nobody! Literally run the offense through him.
by goingforthecorner on Dec 6, 2008 2:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I just read the Golden State of Mind comments
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2008/12/4/682100/game-19-warriors-rockets-E280%93#comments
There were so few rationale comments on there that I couldn’t believe it.
Apparently they never thought Yao was fouled and that he traveled every time.
Let me get this out to you guys, when you are fouled before you “travel” and then “travel” because you are fouled, it’s not traveling. Just FYI
It’s borderline delusional. They think their team played hard and the refs screwed them. Un-freaking-believable. You got screwed because your team is young and doesn’t play as a team right now. Not to mention you don’t employ a starting PG and have absolutely no height.
by UofTOrange on Dec 6, 2008 7:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me that a lot of GSoM posters are on the young side
Which would excuse their immaturity at least. But yeah, they whine a lot AND they think their team is playoff material. That’s a combustible combination.
by Jeffrey on Dec 6, 2008 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
this shhhhhh IS fixed, this is the WORST officiated game ive seen in my life. How can Stern be so dense to think their was only one corrupt reff in the league
You know, Stern is probably right in saying that Donaghy was likely the only ref taking bribes.The problem, as I see it, is that there are a great many referees in the NBA who are incompetent. And most of the incompetent refs are also surly, arogant assholes (Javie). Besides, why would anybody fix this game in favor of the Rockets? And Yao virtually never gets foul calls in his favor. Dude has to be bleeding to go to the line, usually.
Yes it was. It always is lol. A blind man can tell that D is what is wrong with the Warriors.
The guy who says this is immediately shot down by everyone else, of course. What was painfully obvious to everyone outside of the Bay Area seems to be virtually incomprehensible to Warriors fans. The Warriors gave up 132 points to the Rockets. The Rockets haven’t scored 132 points since the Hakeem-Drexler era. This is a team with two star scorers (Yao and T-Mac), one of which wasn’t on the floor tonight. Most everyone else was selected for defensive ability. But, as we saw tonight, when you don’t play defense against them, you’re still going to get your ass kicked. Of course, the Warriors are a spectacular offensive team, and it is very impressive that they scored over 100 points against one of the best defensive teams in the league.
I mean, I understand that their team is 5-13 and they’re pissed about that, but the problem isn’t the refs: it’s that their team is seemingly incapable of playing strong defense without mugging somebody. Their defensive strategy tonight was “Triple team Yao and give him lots of contact.” That shit worked on Shaq, but it’s not going to work on Yao, because when the refs finally do stop giving the people punching Yao in the kidneys the benefit of the doubt, he’s going to go to the line and make his shots. And there’s a good chance he’ll finish with a basket after being mugged, anyways.
But that’s how the Warriors played defense last night, so their big men fouled out and they were left with no one to guard Yao. The Warriors were simply out-coached.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 6, 2008 8:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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