Does Joey Dorsey make the Rockets' roster?
by grungedave on Oct 16, 2009 9:24 AM CDT
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PrintI'm starting to get a little bit concerned.
Pops Mensah-Bonsu played a hell of a good game last night against the Raptors. David Andersen has showed he's at least competent in the rebounding and shot-blocking department. Chuck Hayes certainly isn't going anywhere. The Rockets can't just cut Brian Cook because they'd be eating too much $$$ (though this is an option if Les Alexander can afford the $3.5M hit). We all know that Luis Scola and Carl Landry are secure in their roles in the Rockets' frontcourt. And more and more it looks like Chase Budinger is going to stick with the team and continue the great tradition of tall token white guy shooters for the Rockets.
That leaves seven players that would compete for playing time in at the C and PF positions.
That also means a certain Joey Dorsey might be on the outside looking in. It's already been a topic of discussion among the beat reporters. Dorsey hasn't been getting regular minutes in the rotation. Not even in the pre-season. He certainly didn't get much run last year (his faulty foot injury did not help matters). Is it really possible that Dorsey gets cut in the next two weeks?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
This may truly put me at a loss for words. Whose alternate personality could I possibly take over if there are no antics involving the Dorsey Fin to write about? Pops just doesn't strike me as inherently funny and it would almost seem cruel to have a parody version of Chase Budinger for me to mock incessantly.
I'm crushed. Maybe I should start a "Please don't cut Joey Dorsey" petition? Who is with me?
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Morey
Yesterday on 610, Morey sounded a bit disappointed in Dorsey’s progress. Adleman doesn’t seem to think he fits in right now either. I guess we’ll see.
there's always AB
You could just steal Chris Rock’s material.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Don't worry
Brian Cook will always be there for me to satirize.
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"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
but Brian Cook is just worthless
He’s not a running joke worthy kinda guy. Oh, wait… yes he is.
You are worthress, Blian Cook!
PT Barnum once said:
“There’s a sucker born every minute”.
Hopefully, Houston can find a “sucker” to take Cook off their hands.
They may need to “pay” another team off with a draft pick.
But I’m sure it will be worth a 2nd rounder to move this guy.
Just gotta find that one “sucker”. ‘Get cracking, Daryl’…
I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
Its actually 6 and not 7 guys vying for spots at PF and C
Chase Budinger figures more as a SG or a SF. But still, with Scola, Landry, Hayes, Andersen, and Bryan Cook holding 5 spots, its Pops vs. Dorsey, and Dorsey hasn’t shown much.
It hurts that 2 of the 15 spots are being held by Yao and McGrady as the season starts, but that’s the NBA: injuries happen.
By the end of the preseason, I bet we know this: we’ll know if Battier and Ariza can play at the 2/3 spots, we’ll know whether or not Brooks can be “the guy”, if Landry has taken the “next step” so to speak, and how Scola and Andersen play together. I’m really excited about a potential inside-outside combo of Andersen and Scola out there. Oh, and yes, Chuck Hayes doesn’t score a lot, but he’s probably one of our key guys on this team this year (as constructed).
In the east, this team’s competing with Miami and Atlanta for the #4 seed. However, out west, we’re fighting Utah, New Orleans, and Phoenix for the last 3 spots.
B^2
In Daryl Morey, Rick Smith and Ed Wade we (usually) trust.
i like....
dorsey and hope he can find a way on the roster, hes a rebounding machine and it looks like hes starting to get a little more comfortable around the rim when hes had the chance. but sadly, i REALLY like how pops is showin us something, hes got the hops to block/dunk and the ability to finish at the rim. its gonna be a tough decision, but if i had to make a pick right now, id have to go with pops. he just brings the intensity that we need this year to be aggressive.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
and for public relations
I think we can be quite sure you won’t hear about Pops waking up in a seedy hotel with a trio of hookers and missing curfew on a road trip…
the same cannot be said of Mr. Dorsey
Yeah, but that's what I LIKE about Dorsey.
If the Red Nation apparatchiks start talking about a Five Year Plan, I'm out of here.
i like dorsey much more than pops
if we keep pops i’ll be putting my faith on the line for what seems like the 50th time in the last 2 years with Morey. i’m ok with that for the most part, however i’m still really concerned that morey’s main goal isn’t a championship in the next 3 years. i hope it is because with the exception of this year the rockets have a really valid chance at that trophy.
Hopefully Dorsey gets his chance tonight. Against Toronto, he showed some good stuff…but Pops just had fire in his eyes.
Pops is probably overall better. So if he gets the spot and not Dorsey, then so be it.
BUT
I personally think Dorsey plays with alot more physicality than anybody else. If you notice how he plays he doesn’t let the other center push him around, and it looks like a battle everytime. I like that alot in a player.
BUT
Pops’ has the better offense, defense, and athleticism. He doesn’t suck at rebs either!
Is the pre-season a big enough sample? Particularly if Dorsey doesn't get minutes?
I honestly think the thing Dorsey needs is what he’s not getting – minutes.
Also – DeJuan Blair – is it too early to say “Damn it! He was RIGHT THERE. Baby Barkley – right freaking there!”
Here’s what see unfolding for Joey:
1. Pops makes the roster on the basis of his better showing and, hard to believe, more polished game.
2. Joey gets to revisit the scenic Rio Grande Valley.
3. Brian Cook develops an incurable case of suckitis and is lost for the season.
4. Joey makes his triumphant return, having made many dunks, swatted many shots and fathered several children for the VIper cause.
If the Red Nation apparatchiks start talking about a Five Year Plan, I'm out of here.
heh
well, most statistical systems indicated that Blair was going to be good – certainly amongst the top players in the draft.
Back in June, though, the Rockets didn’t expect Yao to be out all year, and they had yet to sign Ariza (whose availability was apparently a complete surprise). So Morey concentrated on the wing positions, where he knew the Rockets wouldn’t have much beyond Shane to start the season, and left the frontcourt alone.
Was that the wrong decision, even if Blair really does turn out to be Barkley Jr. (to be fair, though, Barkley was shorter; beyond that, as good as I think Blair is going to be, I think it’s a little early to start comparing him to the 2nd/3rd best PF of all time)? I don’t think so. If Yao were available this season, it would be almost impossible for Blair to get significant minutes, and the big issue would still be finding players for SF/SG.
Your friendly neighborhood Dream Shake mod.
I would take Pops just because he proved he is NBA ready.
If Toronto didnt clear cap space to sign Turkoglu, then Pops would have been playing there, from everything I read, they really liked his play, and so far he has outplayed Dorsey.
by Rockets4LIFE on Oct 18, 2009 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
dammit
Joey, you aren’t helping either of our causes by fouling out tonight against the Pacers. Shit. Help me help you!!!!!
Lost cause,GrungeDave,lost cause
I have to think it’s a bad sign when your coach tells a reporter that you don’t know what you’re doing on either offense or defense. The only question is can he make it to November,which I doubt.
(BTW,Memphis has just enough room under salary cap-according to ESPN Trade Machine-to take him. Perhaps the Rox throw in some cash and get the protection removed from the 2011 Memphis Second?)
And in this Showcase…Brian Cook! He can make a few shots,he can block some shots,why he can even almost grab a rebound! Picture the shock and awe on the other team’s faces when your coach calls his number. And for a limited time,we’re just giving him away! Hurry,an offer like this won’t last long! Be the first caller and we’ll include an authentic Brian Cook chair warmer!
On a serious note,I don’t see the Rockets keeping 8 Bigs. That leaves the team going into the Season w/only 6 available Gd/SFs and two are rookies and no 3rd emergency PG.
The reason this happened
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/62182/20091017/stackhouse_waiting_for_offer_from_rockets/
I think the Rockets are pulling for Stackhouse.
Roster me this...
Barring trade(s),I think we all would agree these players will be on Roster Nov 1:
Yao,Scola,Hayes,Andersen,Landry
McGrady,Ariza,Battier,Budinger,Taylor
Brooks,Lowry.
That’s 12,team is allowed 15.
The rest:
Cook,guaranteed $3.5mil(counts against Cap,Lux Tax even if bought out)
Barry,guaranteed $2mil(ditto)
Dorsey,guaranteed $881,000(ditto)
Mensah-Bonsu,vet-min,unguaranteed
Conroy,min,unguaranteed
Temple,min,unguaranteed
Beck,min,unguaranteed.
We can safely count out Barry,as he’s gone no matter what. But how he is removed from roster is key. If Morey is able to trade him,that makes it much,much easier to buy out another contract..
For example,if Morey was able to send Barry and say $2.25mil to Clips(using Randolph TE) and Dorsey to Memphis,the $2.9mil in salary savings could be used to buy out Cook.
This scenario would open up 3 roster spots,two on M-B and prob Conroy. The last could be used on either Stackhouse/McCants or better yet on some young big who got cut before season starts.
If we assume Scola is going to get 30-36min a night,Hayes,Andersen,Landry and M-B should be enough manpower to play the other 60-65 minutes.
also
I think Conroy makes also the team quite easily – they don’t want to go into the season without a backup to the Brooks/Lowry duo at PG.
it comes down to 2 spots with Cook, Dorsey and Pops fighting for them. Sadly, I don’t think Cook is going anywhere for a while.
Yeah,it's prob down to Pops,Dorsey
Cook is prob going to be cheering from bench til close to trade deadline then he gets salary dumped ala Francis.
Lowry can fil in at the 2 as a short-term stop-gap,so Conroy replaces Barry.
That leaves Dorsey and Pops fighting for the last spot. I just think it’s a really bad sign that this late in camp Dorsey hasn’t established any kind of edge over Pops. Plus there are some options besides eating Dorsey’s contract-Memphis,Phoenix(has a couple of TEs and want’s another big),etc.
I admit I have this theory that Landry will be traded for either a C or a SG if McGrady relapses. If right,Pops gives more of what Landry does than Dorsey and that is coloring my thinking.
my thoughts are like this...
PG-Brooks,Lowry
SG-Taylor,McGrady
SF-Ariza,Battier,Budinger
PF-Scola,Pops,Landry,Cook
C-Andersen,Hayes,Dorsey,Yao
Beck,Temple are practice fodder & Barry will get bought out if not traded for a pick. Conroy may make the squad because of the want for a 3rd point, but at the same time Budinger has been used as a point forward & is a good shooter so he can fill in at times for the 3rd guard spot. I dont know but if Dorsey hits the D league but he will be back this year because of the need for a big/rebounder in our rotation. Morey says hes a lil behind & inconsistent but I think he makes the squad after a stint in the D league. Pops definitely makes the squad his play & hustle speaks for itself.
..aint no place & no teams like HOUSTON!!
-Q-
i havent seen beck...
has he even played this preseason
?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Oct 19, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions
On the Rockets homepage, there is an article about the 4 walk ons: Pops, Temple, Conroy, and Beck.
http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/the_bubble_boys_young_rockets_2009_10_19.html
It says in the article that 1 spot is open between them 4. I’d assume Dorsey could already be a shoe in? I’m not sure.
The way Pops has been playing this preseason…
… I can’t see Dorsey beating him out.
The Rockets must see the handwriting on the wall already. Pops is getting a lot more minutes, while Dorsey is barely getting the chance to break a sweat.
I see Dorsey in a Vipers uniform very soon, along with Temple, Beck, and probably Conroy, too…
I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
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