Crazy Trade Idea
Chris Paul isn't happy in NO. While the team picked up Okafor to show Paul they were serious about contending, if they keep on losing and tensions continue to strain, we could see New Orleans shift back to cost cutting mode. And TMac and Brian Cook could cut some costs very quickly for them. I would be afraid to mess with Houston's roster, as everything is working well and the team chemistry to perfect, but a trade sending Paul, Peja and Posey to Houston with Brooks, McGrady and Cook going to NO would allow NO to cut a lot of salary fast, and would still give them a talented, cheap PG.
I don't really know what NO's financial situation is like or how much other teams value Brooks, and its difficult to compare talent versus cash savings; but what do you think about the trade? I could easily see NO refusing to trade Paul for so little (Brooks and cap relief) but I can also see Houston refusing to take on so much salary and mess with team chemistry.
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too crazy
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 3, 2009 5:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Paul? to houston?
hell no that would never happen…i like how our players are developing and getting chemistry with each other right now and for the kind of team we have right now i think our roster is semi perfect.
by vikesfan4lyf on Nov 3, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hate "crazy" trade topics,
but I’d be lying if this hadn’t crossed my mind. Right now, Paul is looking more and more like Garnett did in Minnesota – clearly one of the best players in the game (Paul is, I think pretty obviously, behind only Lebron right now. He’s that good), but surrounded by players who are utter crap. New Orleans has two other players who might be considered “above average” starters on a playoff-caliber team: West and Okafor. These aren’t all-star worthy talents, simply good ones. Okafor is vastly overpaid for what he does, and the same goes for so many of the Hornets. Paul has every reason to be pissed at his situation.
The Hornets won’t be trading Paul on their own. They’d be stupid to give him away for anything but Lebron. So the only way Paul’s going to leave NOLA in the short term is by demanding a trade. And I’m not sure he would do that. The Garnett comparison seems pretty apt to me: both are hot-headed players on the court, but both are also spectacularly (stupidly) loyal to their teams. It just seems so unlikely that Chris Paul would force a trade.
Still, the Rockets are clearly in the best position to capitalize on such a possibility. Lowry, Scola, and Landry weren’t offered extensions, so there are plenty of short-term contracts to deal out to a struggling team. Virtually everyone but Cook can contribute in some way to a good team. These are good assets to have when looking for a good trade.
Okay, so let’s assume that Chris Paul goes to the Hornets in January and demands a trade. What would a “fair” deal (I’m going to put this bluntly: virtually no offer can come close to a fair deal for CP3) look like?
The Rockets would have to take on the worst of the Hornets’ contracts: Peja and Posey are the obvious ones. A smarter Hornets FO might also want to get rid of Okafor, but I doubt they’d try it. So Paul, Peja, and Posey come to Houston. That’s about $33 million.
McGrady goes to NOLA, as does either Lowry or AB. Landry and Budinger also make sense. I also imagine several draft picks, as well as some international rights would have to change hands. The Rockets would get the best PG in the game, while the Hornets would rid themselves of their worst contracts while netting three quality players. The way I see it, Bud and/or AB are the only things that can make this work, however, and even that just doesn’t seem like it would be enough. Crazier things have happened.
Nevertheless, the Rockets seem like they’re poised for a trade. The FA market next season is basically closed off to us thanks to the Ariza signing, and there are plenty of other young stars on bad teams waiting for a trade. Cross your fingers, I guess.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 3, 2009 6:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love this team
But there isn’t a chance on earth I wouldn’t blow it up to get CP3. I trust Morey to do it the exact right way.
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
there comes a point when you just throw the house at the Hornets, offering every low-cost contract the Rox have. The fear I would have is that you would just end up with the Hornets v2.0 by doing so, eliminating almost all the reasons why he’d make the Rockets a contender.
Still, what if there are two “superstars” on the market in January? What if the Hornets are offering Chris Paul in exchange for all of the Rockets’ young players (Brooks, Lowry, Landry, Budinger), but the Pacers are offering Granger (or the Kings are offering Martin, etc.) for considerably less? I can see why Morey would do either trade, but I’d worry (despite my firm belief that Paul is the 2nd best player in the NBA) that by trading for CP3, the Rockets would destroy their opportunity to win a championship in the near future. Yao isn’t getting any younger, after all.
by Only_A_Lad on Nov 4, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The advantage of being a Rockets fan is that you know Morey won’t make a trade to kneecap the franchise. I also have confidence that Morey could trade guys like Budinger and Landry and manage to find some replacements quickly. Ultimately, I think a CP3 trade would hinge on us taking back huge amounts of salary. The question would be whether we want to go deep into luxury tax territory in order to resign guys like Scola. I can see that happening, its hard to say no to a lineup of Yao, Scola, Ariza, Battier, Paul.
by seanbergmanrules on Nov 4, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, McGrady would be a part of this trade
If done in season of course, so that eliminates that worry
I think it’s a much harder trade to do after the season is over. And the Hornets GM will not get over on Morey. No way all of those guys go. You’d have to keep one of your young guards, thinking Lowry for sure.
But Budinger could play his way into making that trade possible.
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm
cp3 to houston not the craziest thing.. that could happen.
new orleans is pretty messed up financially and if they continue to do bad and lose money here comes meltdown cut costs mode.
only real trade i could see is
cp3 plus for tmac cook lowery.
n.o gets cook and tmac which are both expiring contracts i belive and tmac’s contract is partially insured so not quite that big an expense??
and lowery aint too bad..
we get cp3 who can pass the ball around to yao, ariza and the crew
brooks becomes 6th man which is really almost the best role for him( maby?)
cook goes away!
personally i think right now we are working off our team chemisty, and however much id like the deal to go down i dont wanna mess with what we got nessessarily.
aaron brooks…beast… hes not really a weakness for us at pg so not like we really need the upgrade there…
by AlDe2356 on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that said
id really love to have cp3 come to houston..
and i think cp3 would want to come here too…
i dont know how much of a chance hed really have for any other team…
like new york.. huge market.. but they are going for lebron… and their team sucks so if they dont get lebron hes just on another crappy team…
l.a? no room for him there
celtics? magic? denver?
i dunno much abt many other teams but like who else is there.
maby the heat? but can u really say they are that much better than us after we get yao back? and dwade wants to leave so it cant be that great a place…
portland,oklahoma arnt as big a market for cp3 but they would be championship caliber with him…
by AlDe2356 on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanks.....
but no thanks. we’ve got an elite PG putting the last finishing touches in his developing. im stickin with my man brooks.
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by kg_2005 on Nov 4, 2009 2:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We have a good to solid PG
He’s not elite, and he’s not going to ever be elite. That doesn’t mean I don’t love ABZ and what he brings to the table, but he’s simply just not elite.
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i have....
to respectfully disagree, yes he is not elite now, but you can never say never. for i doubt you can tell the future no matter how much you would like (i would like to too, but that takes the fun out of it). i hope you are wrong, i mean i would consider parker an elite pg every time he touches the ball something great is bound to happen, why not think the same for ABZ. although he is are starting PG he is still young and was forced to take the reins when we let rafe go, and he has not disappointed, yes he disappeared a little in last years game 7. but all experience that is going to help him push forward. deron williams is a very good point guard, and yet brooks was right there with him.
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by kg_2005 on Nov 4, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You played the knowing the future game first
By saying he is elite already.
But you are right, I can’t see the future, but I can tell you my honest opinion is that he’ll never be elite. I consider elite top 3-4 in the league. He can definitely be top ten, but I can’t see top 3-4. I think we both know that I hope I’m wrong, I just don’t think I am.
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you just dont think you are.....
yeah i figured that out early. and if you go back i specifically said that he is not elite now, but more that no one can know what he will become, he has already taken big strides as it is. and i think your considerations are too low, why cant elite be the top ten, there are alot of PG in the league. but there is not getting around someone that thinks they can never be wrong, despite what you think i can take being wrong i just make honest opinions of what i see. CP3 is getting too much credit, he deserves alot, but not as much as he is getting. if he was that good they would be winning more games, it shouldnt matter the talent around him if he’s 1 of the 2 best passers in the league right.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Nov 4, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
He can only make scrubs just so much better. And he did make that team pretty darn impressive prior to this year.
And I was attempting to own up to trying to say I knew the future, was that not clear?
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah they looked good....
but west was a big help in that little splurge they went through. in interferes with your ability to not be wrong in your mind. lol landry’s killin them boys!
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Nov 4, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the Hornets would want to trade Paul to Houston…
… more likely they try to trade him to a team in the East.
That said, I wouldn’t mind having Paul on Houston. Team him up with Yao. It depends on what exactly it would cost the Rockets to get him.
I am confident that if Daryl Morey makes a trade with them for Paul, the Rockets won’t end up getting screwed badly in the deal.
I am not confident Houston can get Paul without making it a great deal for the Hornets. Perhaps “too good”. I’m not holding my breath on it…
I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
by steeler-hater on Nov 4, 2009 6:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't see them as a team that really cares about that
They’d likely do whatever makes them look okay. McGrady would do that for them as he’d be a name to get back, when they will have no intention of resigning him
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No Thanks!!!
I know that Chris Paul is a good player, but I think as an overall professional player he is overrated. I do not think that he can lead a team to a championship. I also am a fan of a judge of character and I think Chris Paul has none and I do not think we want guys like that on our team.
by trophic on Nov 4, 2009 9:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmm?????
I can’t help but wonder why they are not winning in NO. Paul has similar if not better talent to work with. No? I don’t see enough of a drop off from Paul to Brooks to upset the apple cart just yet. I kicked this around myself a while back but now I can’t help wonder if Brook’s upside places him alongside Paul in a year or so?
by Yaowza! on Nov 4, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
CP3 has the potential to be the greatest PG in NBA history
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i am in no way....
doubting that CP3 is a great PG. but i just like what we have in aaron brooks, and if morey saw something enough to pick him up then im fine with that b/c i can see it too. yes brooks may not have the post up ability paul has, but paul does not have the speed (although yes he is fast) to keep up with brooks, at least not off the dribble when ABZ is looking to penetrate the lane. and i think brooks is not far from pauls status, chris can score almost at will, and i believe it will not be long until aaron is up to that level. could be wrong, could be right, nobody knows for sure no matter how much they think they are right. im willing to find out.
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Nov 4, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are forgetting that Paul is one of the two best passers in the league though
So yes, on offense ABZ can clearly be close, but it’s the total package.
And of course it would have to be the right trade, but if it’s effectively ABZ for CP3, you do it 100 times out of 100
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by UofTOrange on Nov 4, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm....
im gonna have to agree to disagree, not 100% percent of the time, that’s almost like saying that CP3 is better than ABZ in every aspect. and that’s where our opinions differ, i happen to think there are things that aaron is better at than paul is, chris just has that much more exp than brooks when they asked to take over right away (although he did split time, rafe was on the the floor a majority of the time).
"Waiting for the return of the Mac"
"Let VY loose, give him the chance to play his heart out. for himself, for the titans...and for mcnair"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
by kg_2005 on Nov 4, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope NO would do this trade
if I’m Morey I would do this trade a million times over.
MILLION.
Brooks is a good PG. Paul is the best PG in the game. Seems like a good trade. Yeah, you’re getting Peja’s dead weight contract, but still.
It’ll never happen. I think that in the end the Hornets are just going to hold him and never build a good team around him, much like LeBron in Cleveland right now [only worse, since Paul, as a PG, needs people to hit open shots].
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Nov 4, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that would be good if we didn't get peja back
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by DREAM34 on Nov 4, 2009 8:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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