Recap - Nuggets 111 - Rockets 101. Back-to-Back to Denver? Only one of the top two worst percentage match-ups for the road team in the NBA.
by Xiane on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 PM CST
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If your question was:
"What would happen if you sent the Rockets to Denver on the 2nd night of a back-to-back , let the Nuggets do pretty much whatever they wanted on D, called the Rockets for all the ticky-tack crap you could think of, including six, S-I-X, travels, bought into every single Melo Whine-for-a-Whistle(tm), and literally wrenched the game out of the players’ hands in the early 4th quarter?"
Well, now you have your answer. Nuggets 111 – Rockets 101.
Sure, sure, serious writers don’t ever complain about the refs, because after all, we know nothing could ever, ever, go wrong with them. Or, really, because their actions can pretty much invalidate any thoughtful analysis of a contest. You take every game as a fair test, and hope all of the BS evens out over a season.
That does nothing to address the granularity of individual games, however. Games where one team (the Rockets) gets called for SIX travels, and the other team for two, both on Nene, who eschews dribbling if at all possible. This was a game where Carmelo Anthony shot 20 FTs, or as much as the whole Rockets team shot, despite the Rockets attacking the basket as much if not more, than Denver.
Or how about this? With the game still a contest, Houston is called for 6 fouls, including a technical from 11:04 in the 4th, to 8:25 in the 4th. That’s right, in the space of 2 ½ minutes the Rockets are whistled six times, or once every 25 seconds. And it only got worse.
You just have to write this one off, I suppose. But while Denver is a good team, they aren’t a better team. And as I’m on the subject of the Nuggets, I’d like to point out just how preposterous I find their whole act.
First off, they’ve got to be the most inked-up team in the NBA, and they accompany that unmistakable sign of store-bought badassery with a "tough guy" attitude. They embrace their "Thuggets" nickname. But it won’t wash. Because they are also a team that cries and flops on par with the Jazz. That’s a disconnect.
These supposed tough guys, with their "hard nosed" attitudes are, in fact, cosseted millionaires who rely on piteous whines to the NBA equivalent of minimum wage employees to help them succeed at their jobs. It just doesn’t wash. Tough guys are, well, tough, not whiny. They don’t complain about every little thing, and they certainly don’t fall down when no one touches them. In fact they try not fall down at all.
All that hard background, all that street credibility, all that boring, trite, ink, and it all boils down to falling down on purpose and hoping the hall monitor bails you out.
So, what was good tonight?
Aaron Brooks is becoming a reliable threat for about 23pts and 7 assists, and he’d have more if the Nuggets weren’t allowed to clothesline him with impunity.
David Andersen has found NBA 3pt range, and he’s generally just standing there, by himself, waiting to scorch the net. 17pts on 6 for 8 shooting. If he didn't get called like a gawky 19 year old, when he's not one, we could see more of him.
What was bad?
Trevor Ariza – stop shooting so many 3s! Please! The Rafer comparison is becoming sort of scary. I hate saying it. But Trevor went 6 for 10 on his non-three shots.
The Refs vendetta against Carl Landry. What the hell WAS that?
I really can’t say more about this one. Sorry. Too bitter.
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this is irrelevant but after watching all of those flops,
especially by jr smith. i had to bring the master of flopping to this post. enjoy. (this is not me speaking on the video.)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qy6iz3zyVk
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions
I've come to accept the existence of Brian Cook.
I do have a thought for him, and guys like him. The should get a counselors certification, or sports psychology degree. Then they could help their team mates when they are down, or upset.
Sure, sure, serious writers don’t ever complain about the refs
Well, it’s a good thing we’re not serious writers (except for maybe Tom, I guess).
Fuck the refs; they’re a bunch of assholes.
indeed
if somebody wants “objective” coverage of what happened, they should read the boxscore or check out dwyer’s column tomorrow morning. We be the voice of the fan.
Oh I'm not serious yet
Just acting like it for now.
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Oh gime a break 8 of carmelos ft
where when the “no flop” team rockets purposely fouled melo.
take a deep breath,
think carefully about what you want to say, maybe write it down and have your mom go over it for spelling and grammar errors, then try again.
Ya, fail english on my part.
But seriously, 8 of those 20 ft attempts were during the last minute to ice the game
Comment about a couple of the travels
There was a moment in the game (midway thru the 3rd Quarter I believe) where Chuck Hayes was called for a travel and the Rockets’ announcers went ballistic. They even went back into the replay and circled Chuck Hayes’s foot to try and prove their point that the call was wrong. Well I was watching the game on DVR, rewound the tape and watched the play in slo motion a few times, and the referees absolutely made the right call. Hayes caught the pass, pivoted a couple times on his left foot, and then switched pivot foots before driving to the basket. In fact, the announcers circled his new pivot foot on the replay dissection and highlighted the traveling without even knowing it.
To compound these mistakes, the announcers got critical of the refs for not calling a travel on Carmelo on the other end of the floor, even though watching it slo-motion multiple times clearly showed that it was a very good no-call.
Now, the refs in this game were far from perfect and the Rockets got jobbed many times on contact in the painted area, but I believe the Rockets’ announcers were being far too critical on the referees and perpetuating false claims about missed calls on multiple occasions (such as the examples I gave above). Before you go crazy about the officiating, at least watch the game correctly and understand the rules of NBA basketball. The announcers are as much at fault as the officials with regards to the fan perspective of how well this game was refereed.
Do you have anything but one travel call and homer announcers?
What do you make of six fouls in 150 seconds? That seem legit to you? I never said no travel call could be right, but that six seems excessive, since, strictly speaking, you could call it about 20 times a night. But hey, those are probably all good non-calls, right?
We’ll endeavor to watch correctly though, now that you in your obvious wisdom have set us straight. Thanks for dropping by to condescend to us!
The “before you go crazy about the officiating” comment was aimed at the announcers, not the people on this site. Also, I used the traveling incidents because those were the only 2 times where I rewound and analyzed the play, and thus could confidently use as examples. There were other instances where it seemed as if correct call or non-call was made and the announcers become irrationally infuriated. Again though, I’m not here to defend the officiating last night, it was absolutely wretched on many occasions, it just seemed like the announcers blew the severity and impact of it way out of proportion.
Another thing
To immediately associate tattoos with thuggishness is an ignorant perpetuation of a stereotype. The Nuggets have been whiners and contact exaggerators for years. It’s not the players’ fault that you inferred their tatoos were a symbol of street cred, bravado, and this hard-nosed toughness that involves no flopping or complaining. They play aggressive and work the officials and I don’t think any Nugget pretends otherwise. You’re basically calling out a team for faking an identity, even though that identity is something that you made up and then attributed to them.
It's wonderful to have you here. Perhaps you could be our life counselor?
We’d watch basketball correctly.
We’d be much more sensitive about not accepting any amount of evidence that suggests we take something at face value.
We’d go around telling people about the above two things in a smug way.
Those seem like key skills for being a condescending twat.
When can you start?
Why are so many teams complaining about the officiating
this season? On top of that, there’s the obvious inequality in scheduling.
Are NBA teams really that powerless? Why not replace the NBA Commissioner David Stern? Did he ever credibly address the scandal of referees gambling? I don’t think so.
Hmmm, no credit to the Nugs for anything?
Refereeing sucks every night — the only thing I question from my perspective as a Nuggets fan is the slew of calls Landry got. It was funny but wrong. You all will get even when the Nugs go to Houston.
But Billups was awesome until he got hurt, Ty Lawson showed why he is the 2nd best rookie of the year, Birdman is hurt and he’s still altering shots, and Melo was Melo. KMart sucked last night after he got it in his head that he can make 3 pointers (notice that Karl benched him for an end of bench guy to close the game out?)
And, Brooks is awesome.
No argument there ... Denver has a great line-up
But do you need assistance from the refs? I didn’t get to watch the game but I believe the fans on this forum know their basketball. We know when we’re getting screwed by the refs. Hell, Denver would probably have beaten us if the refs called it right. But as NBA fans, all we ask for is a fair game.
A lot of fans are already noticing the superstar calls, and the overhype on Lebron and Kobe, etc. Let’s not wait for more aspersions on the credibility of the league to be cast.
Bad refereeing can be overcome by playing well
Battier and Skola, who usually kill the Nugs, both looked average last night, while Melo and Billups didn’t. You guys bricked (or maybe just Ariza) a lot of threes which killed your 3rd quarter momentum right as JR Smith heated up. I don’t think the refs changed the outcome.
Neither of our teams will dethrone the Lakers by bitching about the refs. It’s just like boxing. The judges protect the champ and the challenger can only win by knocking them out.
We have accepted that we won't dethrone the Lakers this year.
Maybe you haven’t …
I have, unless we make a trade
Nene isn’t badass enough to play with Odom and Gasol without another big man.
This year’s Nugs aren’t as good as last year’s. We lost to the frickin’ T-Wolves at home!
No one is taking anything away from the Nuggets
(Except perhaps their whining – I’d like to take that away.)
Anyhow, what I said was this was a real contest until the refs decided to step on it. Denver was ahead, but Houston was close, then they weren’t, thanks to bad officiating. So honestly, a true decision was taken out of the hands of both teams.
I was with you until you said Lawson was the 2nd best rookie...
Jennings and Evans have clearly been better dude. I like Lawson and all, and I think he’s probably Top 5 in the running for ROY but Evans and Jennings have been undeniably better.
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by Artest4Prez on Dec 17, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Denver is good.
To be honest, I think Denver is a bit better right now, but not tons. No one dominated anyone in this game, and it was a road game for the Rockets on a back to back. That’s where I get my “not better” take.
The thing is, if you read our usual write ups, they aren’t like this – but the reffing was so glaringly bad it obscured almost every other element of the game for me. Denver was likely to win, and if we’d had a reasonable crew, probably would have anyway, Anthony is the best scorer in the league, Denver is deep, with a big frontline. Those are tough things for Houston to handle. I expected a loss, just not this way, and it pissed me off.
(JVG can say “man up” all he wants – the stats say different about going to Denver or Utah on a BTB.)
That's cool
Sometimes it’s hard to notice bad reffing when your team is the beneficiary of it. I love SB Nation and the other team’s blogs — this one included. See you next time.
OK, New rule:
If you flop with no contact AWAY FROM THE BALL to draw a foul, automatic 1 game suspension, to be assessed by the league office upon replay review.
There is some value in a defender anticipating contact from the ball carrier, otherwise Shaq could just back down everyone and dunk every play. And we don’t want the league office making judgement calls about how much contact was “enough” to distinguish a flop from a foul.
But away from the ball, I think anticipating contact (flopping) serves no legitimate purpose whatsoever, and should be punished harshly. The flops while Landry posts up, the foul on Lowry while out of bounds under the basket a couple games ago, all hurt the game and I can think of no legitimate that sort of thing should be allowed, either on offense or defense. if you’re not within playing distance of the ball, all flops should be subject to suspension, period.
Flopping should be easy enough to catch.
Because you know the players’ styles, the weight disparity, even the sound of the contact. The game replay would also be a great aid. Refs being stupid or biased just can’t be helped.
In real time, it's often very hard to catch flopping
The foul called when Scola’s defender just moved out of the way and Scola fell down is evidence that’s it’s tough see where contact was made. But it would do a world of good if players knew that anytime they invented contact, it could result in a suspension.
Xiane, you are exactly right.
I felt that the refs simply took Carl out of the game at the beginning of the fourth. After the first T, they just blew the whistle on Carl every single trip down the court. In fact, I was surprised that Rick did not go ballistic at some of the calls. He instead put Shane Battier, back in, to settle things down.
In any case, I have to say that the nuggets did hit some tough shots in the fourth quarter, and they kept attacking the rim time after time, and earned their trip to the charity stripe.
One player, who definitely needs to slow down, is Trevor Ariza!
Kari
overreaction
Were the referees bad last night? Yes.
Were they inconsistent? Absolutely.
Did it cost the Rockets the game? Nope.
Making any team fly to Denver for the 2nd half of a back-to-back should be outlawed, and i think that was a bigger factor. BUT the Rockets spent the whole game not boxing out on defense and not moving on offense. Add in the fact that Rafer, um, I mean Ariza and the gang settled for contested 3s the whole night and you get a big, fat “L”.
Sure.
The thing is, despite all the flaws with the Rockets you point, the schedule, and the fact that Denver is good, we were still in this thing, maybe not to win it. And then we weren’t. The reason is the refs, and that’s what pissed me off. You can’t look at that Landry foul series and think it had no influence on the outcome.
You just have to write this one off, I suppose. But while Denver is a good team, they aren’t a better team. And as I’m on the subject of the Nuggets, I’d like to point out just how preposterous I find their whole act.
They aren’t a better team? Really? How many times have the Rockets been to the WCF in the Battier-McGrady era?
First off, they’ve got to be the most inked-up team in the NBA, and they accompany that unmistakable sign of store-bought badassery with a “tough guy” attitude. They embrace their “Thuggets” nickname. But it won’t wash. Because they are also a team that cries and flops on par with the Jazz. That’s a disconnect.
This whole paragraph is a bunch of “QQ”. So what if they’re the most “inked-up team in the NBA”? What does that have do with the way they play basketball? Nothing. They play hard physical defense, sometimes it gives them the advantage, other times it doesn’t.
These supposed tough guys, with their “hard nosed” attitudes are, in fact, cosseted millionaires who rely on piteous whines to the NBA equivalent of minimum wage employees to help them succeed at their jobs. It just doesn’t wash. Tough guys are, well, tough, not whiny. They don’t complain about every little thing, and they certainly don’t fall down when no one touches them. In fact they try not fall down at all.
Flopping is all over the NBA. The Nuggets are certainly no exception, and neither are the Rockets. Deal with it until the NBA changes or actually enforces its rules against it.
All that hard background, all that street credibility, all that boring, trite, ink, and it all boils down to falling down on purpose and hoping the hall monitor bails you out.
I actually like the Rockets a lot, so all of this just sounds like a ton of childish whining from a fan who doesn’t realize his team was tired, on the second night of a back to back, changing timezones, against one of the best home teams in the NBA. Sorry you didn’t win, maybe bring your ire to the NBA schedulers.
Best of luck with the rest of your season.
Swats.
They aren’t a better team? Really? How many times have the Rockets been to the WCF in the Battier-McGrady era?
If you want to somehow make this a historical statement, then perhaps you should pick a better team to support. Despite the Rockets’ lack of playoff success over the past decade, at least they were able to win more than one game in their series matchups. The exception for Denver, of course, is last season, when they met up with a Hornets team that had given up after April, and then faced a Mavericks squad that had gotten fairly lucky in both the regular season and the playoffs.
The difference between the Nuggets and the Rockets? The Rockets won one fewer game than Denver, and so they played Portland (one of the best teams in the league, going by efficiency differential), and then the Lakers. So let’s save the “how much success blah blah blah” shit for a fan of a team that has had a little more success themselves, alright?
Now, if we’re talking about this season, I don’t agree with Xiane’s statement. At the same time, the Nuggets are very beatable by the Rockets. But you’re not arguing that, so whatever.
This whole paragraph is a bunch of "QQ". So what if they’re the most "inked-up team in the NBA"? What does that have do with the way they play basketball? Nothing. They play hard physical defense, sometimes it gives them the advantage, other times it doesn’t.
The only person crying here is you. “Waaah, waah, someone said something mean about mah team!!!!” Fuck off.
Xiane voiced what I think is a reasonable opinion: the Nuggets present a fairly ridiculous self-image to the world. It’s ridiculous when most NBA players present it, primarily because it’s a ridiculous image in and of itself, but it is especially ridiculous when presented by millionaires. At least when the Jazz played the “tough guy” card, it was believable, since Malone was a felonious dick, even if they all whined to the refs, too.
I actually like the Rockets a lot, so all of this just sounds like a ton of childish whining from a fan who doesn’t realize his team was tired, on the second night of a back to back, changing timezones, against one of the best home teams in the NBA. Sorry you didn’t win, maybe bring your ire to the NBA schedulers.
Please. If Xiane said anything about the scheduling or the fact that you built your city on top of some god-forsaken mountain, you’d cry about that, too.
Hahahaha
I’m crying? What a joke. The only recourse of someone with nothing of substance to argue about is to insult the appearance or demeanor of the other rather than their game, which is what we beat you at.
No mention of Rockets’ fatigue. No mention of being at altitude. No credit to any of the Nuggets, whatsoever. So when a tired Rockets team starts to slip in the 4th and fouls – and high fouls rates are a symptom of being tired – of course it’s the refs that gave this game away, not shooting TWENTY EIGHT threes or turning the ball over TWENTY times.
Maybe Xiane meant something else when typing this post through the haze of the flood of tears that surely filled his eyes, but I doubt it.
Swats.
which is what we beat you at.
hilarious
No mention of Rockets’ fatigue. No mention of being at altitude. No credit to any of the Nuggets, whatsoever. So when a tired Rockets team starts to slip in the 4th and fouls – and high fouls rates are a symptom of being tired – of course it’s the refs that gave this game away, not shooting TWENTY EIGHT threes or turning the ball over TWENTY times.
What do you want him to say? They won the fucking game. They played well. Xiane isn’t saying that they’re a bunch of scrubs who sucked the whole game; he’s saying that the refs fucked up the officiating and took the Rockets out. Both Adelman and Karl were clearly pissed at the officials throughout the game, and it just became ridiculous in the 4th.
I’m crying?
Yes, yes you are. You’re pissed that Xiane wrote something about your little team that you don’t like, and so you’re getting all butthurt over a quip about image.
I really don't care what "Xiane" thinks of the Nuggets image
I just think it’s funny that there’s no mention of twenty Houston turns, the Nuggets 10 steals, 7 blocks, or the 17 missed threes that could have – just maybe – been the culprits behind why the Rockets weren’t able to win this one.
Just sayin’.
Swats.
nobody has said those weren't factors, fucktard
the point is that the officiating is most egregious, simply because it is an external cause. I just think it’s funny that you’re not able to understand this.
Just sayin’.
also
I really don’t care what “Xiane” thinks of the Nuggets image
then why did you complain about it?
So what do you call it when you talk about annoying things other people do? Cause where I am from, thats called complaining. Grow up son.
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by BigNate7 on Dec 17, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
who beat the lakers by 10 at their place and who didn't?
we beat them, yall did not, we are better. and if the refs weren’t out to get landry and everyone else, we may have won.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Ah the WCF argument.
And how many games did Denver beat LA in that glorious showing? And how many times did a short-handed Rockets team do it? I wouldn’t, you know, boast, about that if I was a Denver fan.
You don’t like my opinion of Denver’s little act? Ok. Fine. Duly noted.
But please notice, you don’t actually refute it, you just try to mock me and say everyone flops. Um, yes, everyone does flop. Thanks for pointing that out. Its Denver’s silly banal presentation combined with flopping and whining I find so ridiculous.
i think it's time for us to be like everyone else in the NBA
and just flop a shit load. scola can lead the way on that. EVERY player needs to practice flopping. it’s a disgrace to the game but every other team except for us is doing it. and when they do, like last night, they win. it’s downright ridiculous that the refs listen to carmelo whining like a lil bitch. Adelman needs to turn into jerry sloan and coach flopping basketball.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 17, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions
I'm not sure what you mean
Lowry flops all the time.
"I am from one of the top 15 cities in the world. Buffalo, New York." - TrentEdwardsHoF2018
No no - he's our guy - he "draws contact". ;)
There really needs to be a permanent open thread for:
1. Trade Ideas.
2. Flopping discussion.
For me the question is where do you draw the line. The difference for me is whether or not there is an actual basketball play in the offing.
I’m tired of watching players lobby the refs on every single play, no matter that no one actually touched them. I’m tired of guys falling down with no contact. I’m tired of guys running into someone else, away from the ball, and then throwing their arms up like they were shot. All those things are purely a play for a whistle, not a basketball play.
It doesn’t bother me to see a guy put up a shot deliberately into contact. That’s attempting to make a play, not simply attempting to get a call. Though Lowry, I’ll admit, doesn’t always do that. Usually, though, he does. He draws contact on actual drives to the rim. That’s fine with me. And sure, it frustrates me when it’s done to us.
Honestly, I’d like to move just a little closer to the early-mid 1990s – lose the hand checking, arm bars, and holding, but don’t call every little brush with an opponent.
Lowry doesn't need to flop
He’s perfectly willing to slam into guys full force to draw the contact, nothing fake about it.
funny to watch
People e-go at it (pun sort of intended, but not really). I do agree, however, that there were a lot of momentum-killing calls in that game, particularly on Landry. That was a bummer. These things happen though; the game probably would’ve been closer but I had a feeling that we wouldn’t pull this one off (although I do have a feeling we will finally get one on Dallas, they are just so good at beating us at TC).
And, to be realistic, Scola (while I love him) is kind of a flopper. Not Utah Jazz bad, and not as bad as the Nuggs were hitting the ground yesterday like someone pulled out a gun, but he is definitely a culprit.
I have always thought the league should implement a challenge system where a coach can ‘officially’ contest a call; if the coach is wrong, you lose a timeout, and if the refs were wrong, you regain possession. Just a thought. The timeout penalty may not seem like a good enough penalty, but if a game becomes close and clock-stopping is needed to draw up a play / move the ball up half-court for free, it could become a difference-maker.
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
Why lose timeouts?
Tennis allows a fixed number of challenges on umpire’s calls. With the TV replay so readily available, why not take advantage of it by giving teams a fixed number of challenges throughout the game—on any kind of referee’s call.
And penalize referees who makes the most errors or receive the most complaints from coaches.
Haven't watched the replay yet
so I don’t want to commet too much, but the start of the 4th did seem like a momentum killer with what the refs called on landry (only watch the espn gamecast- thought it was broken!!!) .
Melo is a rocket killer!!
Not looking to get into this bitchfest (it’s a shame this has turned into a thread on flopping/thugs and poor refin’ but the recap was very one eyed compaired to every other one- which are great) but I don’t think we were going to win this one any way.. with the backtoback in Denver.
Denver are a strong team and we still had a shot even know the TO’s and poor shot slection by Ariza was up there!
Will comment more once I watch the game tomorrow…to see if it was justified
"We obviously didn’t know the scouting report that well on Andersen. We knew he’s a shooter but we didn’t see him play at that level." Phil Jackson on underestimating the aussie
we don't need another rocket killer...
Terry and Roy are already doing a good enough job at that, thank you. And melo doesn’t usually kill us as much as last night. Invalid induction.
The last two years he's hit Roy like game winners on us from memory
"We obviously didn’t know the scouting report that well on Andersen. We knew he’s a shooter but we didn’t see him play at that level." Phil Jackson on underestimating the aussie
I was actually trying to not recognize that...
ever since we recognized that they are “rocket killers” they’ve been doing it more often. I’m trying to keep this bad mojo away.
I'll be interested to know what you think.
And yes, sometimes the recaps aren’t that even-handed, but this isn’t the Associated Press, either.
Finally got a chance to watch all the game
Here’s what I picked up
•1st qrt started extremely strong, first 8 mins were flawless, we got what ever we wanted and surprisingly it was more half court then fast break…. once battier (he’s still got it) was out Tmac came in and guarded Melo, he did well for 2 mins then looked in trouble from there.
• The traveling call on AB was a no call, same could be said on Nene, Travel on Andersen was a good call early, the late one was poor, the one on hayes was BS! seemed like the refs wanted a make up call from nene missing the layup previous.
•Ariza once he hit that first long 2 he looked to settle for it, for most of the game (same can be said for Kmarts 3’s)
We tapped around a lot of loose balls that Denver got as we had no legs from the back to back, normally we would have got them instead the nuggets got second chance points
Lawson was a great pick up for them! but the nuggets have no chance of winning a title with Nene at Center. Melo needs to be top 2 in MVP talk.
Overall the ref’s were pretty poor, wether they missed calls, called stuff they should leave or called fouls random fouls (billips foul from ariza which nene fouled billips, just as he was heating up, as if we already needed that)
The technical on landry was ridiculous but the offensive fouls were worse.
Why didn’t chase guard carter and lowry guard JR in the 4th?
• Chase weak side help is decent, it’s his one on one and standard help defense and off the P&R that killed us with JR, once he learns how to play decent 1 on 1 defense he’s going to be special and could see bigger mins (hopefully that’ll come within a season or two) On a side note how good is our bench going to be next season!! lowry/landry/chuck/ + chase/andersen with 1 year experience and who ever we sign or add via the draft at SG, can’t wait!
"We obviously didn’t know the scouting report that well on Andersen. We knew he’s a shooter but we didn’t see him play at that level." Phil Jackson on underestimating the aussie
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