Where Shaquille O'Neal welcomes Jason Kidd to my #&*$ list
by grungedave on Dec 19, 2009 10:51 AM CST
in YouTube because we're lazy
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I am sure I have made my dislike for the FatAss Shaquille O'Neal very clear over the past 3 years here.
Just look at the guy. He's a professional athlete who refuses to stay in shape. When he was with the Lakers, he routinely delayed surgeries to coincide with the beginning of the regular season. Near the end of his contract with L.A., he ran up the court in a pre-season game and yelled at Jerry Buss: "Pay Me!" (even though he was still due $40M+ for another 2 years). Not to mention the fact that he has taken every opportunity to burn every bridge with every teammate and organization he has been affiliated with. That's not even to mention that he stole Steve Nash's reality TV show idea without even a "thank you".
In short, Shaq is an overgrown child, and I cannot understand why anyone would continue to be a "fan" of his.
Hey, FatAss, good news! Now you have company!! I'd like to welcome Jason Kidd to the shit list. Why?
Simply put: Jason Kidd is a dick.
For those of you that saw the Rockets game last night, you saw Kidd load up and launch himself head and shoulder first into David Andersen on an inbounds play. Then he tried to start a fight afterwards when Anderson asked him "what's the deal, mate?" Rule of Thumb, Mr. Kidd - don't start fights with Aussies. Another suggestion - don't do stupid shit when there are about 20 cameras watching your every move.
[here's where I would put the YouTube clip of Jason Kidd earning what should be a 1 game suspension last night. If I could find that YouTube clip. Oh, hey, I found it - thanks to ClutchFans!]
Of course, Jason Kidd doesn't make this list simply for his display of douchebaggery last night. No. This has been building. And yes, beating up Joumana with regularity is a huge factor. As crazy as Joumana comes off when she makes public statements.... I kinda believe her. Her ex-husband is a massive tool. And no matter how great he can be with a basketball in his hands, that won't take him off The List.
FU, Jason Kidd.
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what a bitch
i thought kidd was a classy guy. guess not.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Dec 19, 2009 11:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You thought he was a classy guy....
Dude he beat up on his ex wife, he is a DOUCHEBAG!!! He didn’t do it for Jersey and he ain’t gonna do it for Dallas!!!
by kmbrly429 on Dec 19, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
J.Kidd
So should I drop him in my fantasy league?? JK.
On another note, I was over at MoneyBall reading through comments and I’ll admit I’m biased because of my distaste for anything Dallas, but they are a bunch of bitches. I’ve seen games where we thought officiating was rough, but tonights game was rough on both ends and they totally disregard the fact that Kidd got away with this FF.
BTW do you think the league will end up reviewing this play and give him the FF today?
by jtothet on Dec 19, 2009 11:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
oh yes
He’ll get 1 game out of it sometime today.
by grungedave on Dec 19, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me
A bit of Derek Fisher’s hit on Scola in the playoffs last year.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
by DreKeem on Dec 19, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and yet...
I’ve never really had a problem with Fisher. But yeah, the plays were similar.
by grungedave on Dec 19, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OH WAIT!!! ......
I just played this clip again, di you notice about half way though, not only did Thomas come over and push Andersen, but he then goes over to the coachand they do some alright dude shake and both were smiling, DID YOU CATCH THAT!!! Hope the League catches it too, if they look at the whole thing surroundings and all!!!!!! What a DOUCHEBAG TEAM DALLAS IS!!!!!
by kmbrly429 on Dec 19, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
please learn how to write in enlgish.
thank you. that is all.
Bitches call me Barney Rubble because I make the bed rock.
by clutchcity on Dec 19, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They just wanted to intimidate the Rockets..
It simply did not work. Rockets not only hung in,and kept their composure, but came away with a win. Good for them.
I don’t know how Morey found guys like Lowry, Anderson, and Budinger. They simply appear fearless. Add in a healthy dose of Landry, Hayes, and Battier is
Kari
by Kari on Dec 19, 2009 6:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lol
wow…did u guys even watch the game, Anderson should be called for a foul every time he sets a pick, so this time Kidd thought he was going to set a pick …and he ran into him…to make the officials see how he sets the pick…but i guess all u guys, Anderson and the commentators in this clip are stupid to realise that…Kidd is a better player than all the Rockets team put together…he’s classy, he hardly got a tech in his entire career…respect for the best playmaker ever !!!
by kujta_c9 on Dec 19, 2009 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hold up...stop...
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1midy6Uuq8
2008 Playoffs, I believe. That wasn’t Kidd in another unecessarily dangerous foul was it? Not your “classy” Kidd, he wouldn’t grab someone’s skull and hurl it toward the floor with intent to break it open. Nooo…
Kidd can play ball, good for him but to me he’s a despicable human being. And on that note, if you’re a fan of such play you should be sick with yourself. But I digress.
Kidd is a chump.
by jtothet on Dec 20, 2009 2:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
c’mon guys…he’s just tough, he’s always been that way…he’s tougher than ur entire team, especially defensively…he’s very physical, the other foul on Pargo was another hard foul to make a statement, because the hornets were getting easy points. Here’s what Carlisle had to say on Kidd’s foul on Anderson the other night : “He took that hard foul and he was making a point,”. “It’s time to quit being soft and start playing harder and at a higher level.” ….and he’s right, with the talent they have they should win more games, but they aren’t tough enough…and as the best leader ever, Jason Kidd has to get the point across the team.
ANd btw i don’t see how Brooks foul on Dampier was any different, he looked like a wrestler not a basketball player…but Dampier’s to big and too strong to get down easy, has it been any other player, hospital is where he would be right now.
But, guys…it’s just a matter of opinions i guess, i’m biased coz i like Kidd a lot, and u’re biased coz u’re Rockets fans
by kujta_c9 on Dec 20, 2009 4:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just admit it
your favorite player is a wife beating, adulterous drunkard who plays dirty on the court. He’s an asshole, and the fact that Carlisle defends his asshole actions is just further proof that Carlisle is also a supreme dickbag.
He threw an elbow at Andersen’s head. That this does not bother you, but instead seems to (perversely) only further endear him to you is, frankly, fucking stupid.
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 20, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, the violence to his wife and cheap shots aren't bias
They are facts.
by Xiane on Dec 20, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
And Ron Artest was just so tough that he had to beat the shit out of fans.
Toughness and Thugness are two different things.
Tough is getting his teeth knock out and still able to walk over to the bench. Tough is getting a shot on the eye with blood streaming down his face and still comes back to finish a game. Tough is taking a knee to knee with Kobe and still comes back and win the game. Tough is taking a charge from Shaq and Yao at full speed. Tough is covering your 7ft center’s ass with 6ft6 frame.
You dont know jack about toughness. J.Kidd was the reason Mavs lost, with his 3/11 shooting, 0/4 from beyond the arc, and Lowry and Brooks dropping a combined 51 on him.
This is the problem with people who only watch the stars, you condone ridiculous behaviors like this and mistaken it for toughness. You want to send a message to your team? Do it in their face like Ariza did Brooks. Dont try to fuck with a 7ft Aussie that probably was gonna fuck Kidd and his old bones up if Scola didnt pull him off
and you want to know what the difference was between the Brooks play and the Kidd play
AB got a FLAGRANT call for it!!
by NVP on Dec 20, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“Tough is taking a knee to knee with Kobe and still comes back and win the game.” …are you talking about paul pierce faking it ??? :P. Watch the last game between the Nets and the Pacers in the 2002 playoffs, watch Kidd taking care of Reggie Miller the hardest guy to guard ever, and if that’s not tough, i don’t know what is. After all, everyone looses control once in a while, and if you watch Jason Kidd every night, that happens once in three or four seasons. And just to make it clear, he was guarding Shane Battier most of the game, not Brooks or Lowry. I don’t know how you can talk about fairness and toughness when you have on the team Scola and Battier, they flop all the time, everytime someone touches them they drop on the ground like they shot them…that’s not basketball my friend.
But as i said, everyone has his opinion and after all who are we too judge them when all we can do is watch them on TV…while they leave their hearts out there on the floor. Cheers my friend…marry Christmas :P
by kujta_c9 on Dec 21, 2009 7:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Knee to knee
We’re talking about Yao and Kobe, not Pierce – we’ve been talking about Dallas and Houston, not Boston.
by jtothet on Dec 21, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all rockets
Reggie Miller almost beat the Nets in the clutch in that series because J.Kidd cant cover him. Reggie forced overtime with a 3 and dunked on everyone for 2nd OT. He averaged 23 a game. By proxy of that argument, Battier friggin covers Kobe, Lebron, Brandon Roy all the time and that’s not tough? why because Battier “flops”? Yes, guarding Shane Battier certainly helps with the defensive prowess argument.
I can name plenty of players that torched Kidd to advance into the playoff, all during his years in the All-Defensive team
Who am I to judge J.Kidd? I have little cousins and brother who watches and play basketball! Like it or not, He is a role model by the proxy of his skills, and behaviors like that and people like you praising him for such act is exactly why I judge. Tough luck that NBA is a entertainment business and he has to play a bigger role than just a player. It’s a responsibility he took when he signed the dotted line for millions, and because he is good at what he does means that he has greater responsibilities as a role model. You think I care that Danny Fortison is a bitch that flagrant everyone? NO, because no one wants to be Danny Fortison, but someone wants to be Kidd. He’s gonna take in that little play like “Oh Jason Kidd is tough because he unnecessarily try to start a fight with that big guy”, or “Oh, Jason Kidd is tough because he hits his wife when she doesnt listen”
by NVP on Dec 21, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, Kidd got three charges running after Reggie Miller in that game, he couldn’t stand on his feet at the end of the game, he did the best job on Miller ever, and the three Miller got to tie it, it shouldn’t count as everyone knows. I don’t want to get to talk about how good a player he is, because he’s incomparible, better then anyone has ever played for the Rockets (hakeem, barkley, drexler).
I totally agree with you that he’s a role model and he should behave for the sake of the children who watch the game and admire him, and he does. You cannot judge him over two bad fouls in his entire NBA career. If we start like that then what about Kobe and Lebron screaming at the referees all the time…and Kobe with that towel guy (u can watch it on youtube). What i mean is, if we judge players like that over a foul, then everyone’s a bad role model. No one mentions when Kidd makes a foul, he doesn’t scream at the refs, if he throws the ball out of bounds, he admits it…and many things he does EVERY NIGht, not once in his career.
And about his wife, it’s his personal life…and no one knows what exactly happened there so let’s leave that out. And he didn’t want to start a fight with Andersen, it was the other way around…you just watch a sequence of that game and judge.
I say Kidd is a great model of both how a player should play the game, and how should he behave while playing. He’s one of the quiet guys in the league, he doesn’t complain…etc. And to judge him over a foul on Andersen and one on PArgo, and just not taking into account his all career…that’s stupid (no offence)
by kujta_c9 on Dec 21, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well obviously.
I’ll give you Kidd has a good career going for him, but that’s it.
We each hold our own biased opinions, but no way Kidd’s is/was/ever will be a better player than Hakeem, or for that matter Drexler. When I see a ring on his finger, maybe, that’s a big MAYBE, then I’ll put them near their level. You look back at Hakeem’s game and find one where he committed a similar flagrant foul, like the one’s we’ve seen Kidd pull off.
by jtothet on Dec 24, 2009 8:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is that what u think, u know my brother also played basketball in yugoslavia second league, he was a very fair player, they say he never ever got a technical or commited a flagrant foul, i guess that he’s up there with hakeem olujawon. Kidd is arguably the best playmaker ever, and neither Hakeem or Clyde can be considered like that for the center or the forward position :( :(
by kujta_c9 on Dec 25, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s what u think suzaku, and grungedave…i’m sure u understand what i’m saying…and sorry if i don’t write good in english, i’m albanian after all :)
by kujta_c9 on Dec 20, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
hmmm, I watched the movie "Wag the Dog"
Aren’t we at war with Albania?
by grungedave on Dec 20, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still say it isnt a fact?
Find a rational non-biased human being, present him with the evidence on Jason Kidd’s bad character and you’ll find that he’ll come to the same conclusion as our “opinions”. If that doesn’t make it a fact, I don’t know what will.
by suzaku on Dec 20, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rational non-biased human being ?…go talk to the referes, have you ever, i mean ever seen Kidd going at the referes, complaining about a call or something ?…never ever. He’s a class act, everyone in the entire NBA loves him, every coach, every teammate, every player (like Lebron, Kobe etc), except from the opposing team fans :S
by kujta_c9 on Dec 21, 2009 7:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unreasonable
And you have proof that “ever” coach, player and teammate loves him? I call BS.
None of us have denied he can play basketball, we’re saying we don’t respect the way he plays. He can shoot, improved his outside shot for that matter, and is a superb assist machine. Problem is he commits unnecessarily rough and intense fouls. He didn’t need to run his shoulder into Andersen – I agree that he was trying to show toughness, but wouldn’t playing the game respectable be more admirable?
by jtothet on Dec 21, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just please watch the Rockets, watch the way Andersen sets screens, they are all fouls, so Kidd was thinking he was going to set a screen and ran into him hard, it wasn’t like intentional, you could see that from the reaction afterwards, he didn’t say a thing to Andersen, he wasn’t even looking at him. I don.t have a “proof” that everyone loves Kidd, but i’ve been following him for years, and all i hear is good things about him, his leadership, his personality and everything…i mean c’mon when he was in the Reedem Team 2008, Deron Williams and Chris Paul carried his bags, brought him water and things and it wasn’t just because he was old.
I watch most of the games when Kidd plays, he’s a fair player..he’s not dirty, if u define hime as “dirty” because of one or two hard fouls…that’’s stupid, considering he played over 1000 games in the league.
by kujta_c9 on Dec 21, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're just stupid. I don't mean refs.
refs are biased for all I know. I mean someone not really involved in the game or even a fan of it. Being a fan of the game can already be a source of bias. A completely neutral party is what I mean dufus. And when has beating your wife been a class act.
by suzaku on Dec 21, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh c’mon smart-ass…80 % of people hit their wifes, it’s just that they don’t report it to police, they’re scared…so cut the crap out, and it’s got nothing to do with basketball. Jason Kidd is a classy basketball player, yes he’s tough but he’s fair, if andersen didn’t get to him to say something no one would even talk about that foul, so please… you can’t judge the greatest playmaker of all time on a “dirty” foul, but u know i don’t care what u think, i just think that u should open discussions about your team play, not about derek fisher foul on scola, jason kidd…but i guess you don’t have what to talk about …coz the Rockets are so poor this year :(
by kujta_c9 on Dec 21, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe 80% of people hit their wives in Albania... It the USA it's a crime, you know, jail and everything.
For a guy with a terribly incomplete game (no short or midrange game, at all) he’s done very well indeed. As far as the greatest playmaker of all time, well, only 5800 more assists to tie Stockton…, 2/3 of the way there, but I’d say he doesn’t have another 1/3 of a career to go.
And if you go by assists per game he’s 6th behind Magic, Roberston, Stockton, Thomas, Paul, and the woefully underrated Kevin Johnson.
There’s no measure by which Kidd is the greatest ever. As a basketball player. As a human being, well, again, there’s no measure by which he’s the greatest ever, either. Sorry, never have liked Kidd as a player or a person, and sure he’s accumulating stats, but even with the long career Kidd is only a couple hundred steals ahead of Mark Jackson – is Mark Jackson your idea of the greatest ever?
by Xiane on Dec 22, 2009 3:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t know if they hit their wives in Albania,lol…i’m not from ALbania.
And for you to define Kidd’s career only on assists, that’s just plain stupid. You say Stockton had 5800 more assists than Kidd, so what…u can’t compare the two, Stockton was a better shooter…that’s the only advantage Stockton had over Kidd, and for the assists he had a better team then Kidd ever did (until now in dALLAS) and played until he was 41 or 42. KIdd is a better passer, a better athlete, he’s faster, leads the fasbreak better than anyone ever did, he rebounds (the best rebounding guard in the history of nba)…and what’s most importantly he’s always been a great defender. So he’s way better then Stockton…u can’t compare players just looking at the stats, what about those charges Kidd takes, intercepts a pass, helps under the basket, rotates, guards Kobe, Lebron…i mean what you’re saying is all non-sense. I can go on and compare him to all those you mentioned…Magic, with the team he had u can put a twelve years old to run that offense, he had no D at all. Oscar Robertson…okay he was amazing, but he did it when defense was underrated and there weren’t athletes there are in today’s game.
And Xiane…as everyone who understands the game they say, it’s the intangibles in Kidd’s game that make him the best. What about his leadership ???? It’s not about stats…it’s about taking the worst team in the NBA into NBA finals. I don’t see any of those you mentioned would be abble to do that…sorry.
by kujta_c9 on Dec 22, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, by your reasoning
Magic Johnson is a lot better than Kidd.
by Xiane on Dec 22, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I said “Magic, with the team he had u can put a twelve years old to run that offense, he had no D at all.” ….sorry
by kujta_c9 on Dec 27, 2009 3:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you've got one messed-up sense of reality man...
go see a shrink about that.
by suzaku on Dec 22, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
that sure made me laugh suzaku, i’m a shrink myself, so i don’t know maybe u should come visit me :)
by kujta_c9 on Dec 25, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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