Rockets vs Clippers: 12/22/2009, 7:30 CST
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Los Angeles Clippers at Houston Rockets, Dec 22, 2009 7:30 PM CST
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this night would be amazing if i heard
novak was traded to houston for brian cook…thatd be awesome!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
Umm
Game winner was against the Kings. Lest we forget, Tom Martin’s username used to be Bring Back Novak.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
...which is encouraging in and of itself.
by DribbleHooper on Dec 22, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Clippers posting Davis on Brooks
look, I just don’t think this can work. Sure, if you’ve got a player like Kidd or Andre miller who legitimately has a post game, then go ahead and post up a smaller pg. But if you don’t have a post game, you’re not suddenly going to invent one just because AB is four or five inches shorter than you. You’re probably better served by just trying to beat Aaron off the dribble.
mcgrady
do u think hes playing better bcz of wafer news knowing he might be gone soon and he wants to stay?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 8:02 PM CST reply actions
taylor im...
and scores right away
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions
TMac's best line so far this season, unless I'm mistaken...
10 pts on 3-5 shooting, 4-4 FT shooting, 1 def reb, 3 assists, no fouls and (for those who care) a plus/minus of +3.
for sure his best line
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
He's wasted on the Clippers.
But enough about his recreational habits… bu-dum-CHING
by DribbleHooper on Dec 22, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
how could it hurt?
besides, we’ve seen less of Taylor than we have of T-Mac. Let’s reign it in a bit.
once we trade mac...
wafer will play minutes and let bud, ariza, battier, rest more as they have played alot this season…taylor and cook willl remain 11th and 12th men
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
In random Thunder/Jazz news...
The Jazz traded rookie PG Eric Maynor to the Thunder for monetary reasons. Jazz got the draft rights to Peter Fehse who was a 2nd round pick and is in the German League right now and they also dumped Matt Harpring’s ridiculous 6.5 million salary on the Thunder.
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
Fehse was a 2nd round pick in 2002 I should add
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
yeah I loved watching him in college
and im happy for him that his game wont get affected by the Utah floppiness
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
how can u call that foul
on anderson…strait up
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions
I believe so.
The plan, as stated so far, has been to play him 7-8 minutes a night, for the immediate future.
by DribbleHooper on Dec 22, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
I was so pumped about McGrady's line...
…I almost totally missed Ariza having a particularly sucktastic night, so far.
Almost.
Just noticed the pic is from Los Rockets night
gotta love those
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
Anderson looks better and better every game
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
I'm always pumped whenever he does well.
I keep hoping for his success on the international stage to translate to the NBA, much as it has with Scola.
by DribbleHooper on Dec 22, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
seems like Anderson's is translating much faster though
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
but he still needs to add some weight to be an everyday NBA center
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ariza
not having very good luck tonight. Lots of shots going in and out. That would’ve been a pretty nice dunk, too.
i donno
t-mac did seem a little but frustrated when he came out. While on the bench during the 2nd quarter he did not look happy
I could see that...
…after all, he was rolling when he was in. He really, really wants to reassert himself on the court.
That being said, I can’t blame Adelman for being cautious with him. The Chris Webber Story™ is reason enough.
by DribbleHooper on Dec 22, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Wow the Blazers are unlucky. Pryzbilla went down-
With 3:12 left in the first quarter of the Portland Trail Blazers game against the Dallas Mavericks, Blazers center Joel Przybilla went down with a right knee injury. Przybilla fell to the floor while contesting a rebound with Mavericks center Erick Dampier and clutched his knee, banging his hands on the court in apparent frustration
The Blazers' season *does* seem a bit snakebit, doesn't it?
I feel for them… as organizations go, they’re among those who deserve it the least.
by DribbleHooper on Dec 22, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
waaaa....those floppers deserve that
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
oh and btw, mcmillan is also hurt...
hurt his achilles practicing with the team
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
Portland might be the one team that has a greater reason to be pissed off with injuries than us.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
thats what happens when u flop all the time...
u hurt yourself
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
how many times have i heard
and scola goes up and under!!! I love it!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 9:23 PM CST reply actions
2-11.... TA is scaring me....
somebody make him stop….
and he’s going for the FT… which is worse……
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
yeah,
it’s something he needs to work on. He’s having a lot of bad luck on offense in general, but he is making it up on the defensive end. I’m not too concerned about it, overall.
Yahoo said he's doing 65.9% @ FT career aveg, but i felt he's doing like 40-45% recently.
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
Noticed that.
After all, there’s no way those teams could beat such an untalented team, eh?
Minnesotan Rockets fan
hey
it’s a lot easier to say you were robbed by the officials than it is to say you were outworked, out-hustled and outplayed in general, isn’t it?
well, not really for Clips fans
There’s an overall agreement that Dunleavy sucks (and how), so it’s not hard to admit that.
What is hard to admit is that the Rockets are top-to-bottom more talented than your favorite team.
we also get mad at refs when we lose
ill admit that there were more bad calls in Houstons favor tonite…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 22, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Landry! you should get those teeth as Christmas present!!!
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
not often you hear that
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
it's just lame to send a guy in for 20 sec to close out
Clipers got no class….
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
it's lame
that Novak doesn’t get any playing time, given the Clippers’ offensive woes. They’ve got the 6th-worst offense in the league – maybe a three-point sharpshooter should get more than five minutes per game. Sure, he’s a bad defender, but it seems to me that it wouldn’t hurt to put him out there.
Yahoo said Blazers' Przybilla ruptures patella
that hurts even just typing it….
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
i think
we’re definitely up there. people like to say the lakers have a great bench, and the blazers bench would be very solid if they had everyone healthy. but the rockets really go 11 deep if you include wafer and you can’t really argue with that
With the recent additions of T-Mac and Von to what we already had
its hard to say no
"Every time you turn on ESPN you see Bama" - Earl Thomas' answer when asked what excites him most about the National Championship.
To all Houston sports fans, Houston is the 4th biggest city in America, there will be traffic on the way to your respective sports game. Come Early, Be Loud, Stay Late.
by TexasHoosier on Dec 22, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Posted over at Clips Nation
QFT:
Houston has no talent…
Seriously, they don’t belong in the NBA…We have waaaaay more talent than Houston. Landry can’t even come off the bench for our team…I mean Rasual can outplay Landry any day of the week. What a crock of shit. If I see another article about how Houston has no talent and they’re not supposed to make the playoffs, I’m going to throw up. They’re a good ballclub. Maybe their players; Landry, Brooks, Ariza, Scola, Hughes, etc don’t score 25+ every night, but on any given night any one of them can hit 30. They’re a playoff team whether we like it or not. They’re smart, tough, and all their players play within their limitations and maximize their "limited’ abilities. We are the OPPOSITE of that. Look no further than Rasual.
-MichaelCage
good stuff
loved the part about the clippers being the opposite of us it’s quite true. we play greater than our perceived lack of talent suggests we should thanks to great coaching and managing, they play worse than a team with that many good players should for essentially the same reasons.
I think
that’s true…
but (and this is why I like the post quite a bit) the Rockets really are “talented.” I’ve said before that the people who throw around the “Rockets aren’t talented” meme don’t really have any clear definition of what “talent” means. If a team is winning most of its games, if it competes and plays good basketball, how can we say that they don’t have talent? What does talent mean beyond “good player?”
The fact is that almost all of the Rockets’ players are better than those on the Clippers. The only player in their starting lineup I’d honestly take over his Rocket counterpart is Baron Davis (Davis is a great player, but he’s… unmotivated). That sounds ridiculous, right? But people tend to discount defense and not value other contributions properly, and that’s why guys like Battier and Chuck are worth more than the vast majority of NBA players.
The Rockets win because they’re good. How can we separate “heart” or “hustle” from other contributions? These things matter. And it helps that Scola/Landry/Brooks/Lowry/etc. are skilled offensive players, too.
hmm
so let’s take talented to mean good player, which is what i think it is. if you look at our 1 and 2 guys (brooks and ariza, respectively), we look weak when compared to the rest of the league. the thing is, from 3-8 we’re one of the best if not the best team in the nba, which goes back to us having the best bench in the league. i’d probably take gordon over ariza and kaman over hayes, but if we lose those two matchups and win every other one, like you said, doesn’t that make us the better, or “more talented” team?
if you look at our 1 and 2 guys (brooks and ariza, respectively), we look weak when compared to the rest of the league
Brooks… maybe. We’ve talked about this around here before, and Lee and a few others seem to think Brooks is a top-10 point guard. Again, I think this is a product of not really valuing non-scoring contributions properly. He’s a good PG, and I think he’s in the top half, but he turns the ball over too much and defends poorly.
I consider Ariza to be in the top half of the league right now, too. He’s a great defender, he rebounds well, and he makes all the hustle plays the Rockets need. He’s shooting poorly, but you need volume shooters, too. As I said, his defensive contributions outweigh any problems he has on the offensive end, and +/- shows him as a net positive this season. The rest will come with time.
but if we lose those two matchups and win every other one, like you said, doesn’t that make us the better, or "more talented" team?
Exactly.
to put it simply
winning the lottery more often doesn’t mean you’re more talented. In fact, it means you suck.
ok
here we go. assuming ariza is our number two guy.
paul pierce/ray rallen/rondo
brook lopez
al harrington
thaddeus young
hedo turkoglu/jose calderon
luol deng
mo williams
rodney stuckey
troy murphy
michael redd/ brandon jennings
josh smith
raymond felton
michael beasley?
vince carter/jameer nelson
caron butler/gilbert arenas
jason terry/jason kidd
oj mayo
david west
tony parker
chauncey billups
kevin love
russell westbrook
lamarcus aldridge
carlos boozer
baron davis/chris kaman
pau gasol
amare…amar’e stoudemire
kevin martin
stephen curry
eric gordon
what i’m saying is that most people would take those guys over trevor ariza, thus the we look “weak” when our number 1 and 2 guys are compared to everyone else’s.
Actually....
I would rather take Brooks over Baron…you wanna trade?
by MichaelCage on Dec 22, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
oh yeah...
I meant Hayes…just rattling off players in the heat of the moment…not that Hayes can score 30 as easily as Ariza or Brooks, but he knows his role and he plays it well.
by MichaelCage on Dec 22, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Elton Brand screwed them from behind and then some....
the team’s loaded with talents as those starters are, branch is another story…
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
yeah and EB
is now getting his just desserts in Philly. The 38 million dollar bench man. EB didn’t know how good he had it Clipperland…he had a coach with a one track mind and the perfect low post iso philosophy that was tailor made for his game.
by MichaelCage on Dec 22, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
You guys look good...
I’m rooting for Houston after the Clips this year. You have one of the most underrated teams in the league and all your players are tough and smart. Adelman should win coach of the year one of these days. Good luck in the playoffs, and if you run into the Lakers again, hopefully you can push them to 6 or 7 and get a lucky bounce this time around.
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