Rockets @ Magic: 12/23/2009, 6:00 PM CST
by Only_A_Lad on Dec 23, 2009 5:30 PM CST
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Houston Rockets at Orlando Magic, Dec 23, 2009 6:00 PM CST
Olajuwon was the anomaly... the "dream," if you will. Drexler embodies the Rockets the most.
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so our 2nd unit tonite
Lowry, Mcgrady (Taylor), Harris, Landry, Anderson
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 5:58 PM CST reply actions
Mac needs to stop
chatting with Vince every second he gets and focus on the damn game.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
He knows what's he's doing
They’re family, they’re prob ably just talking about the good ol days. Leave it alone.
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 6:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Family or not
It’s a basketball game not family reunion. When your team is coming down the court after a made free throw and at the last second you look at your point guard and have a “what’s up” look on your face, that doesn’t tell me he “knows what he’s doing”.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
Calm the hell down, it was a joke
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 6:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not mad at you, frustrated with what's going on
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
and we can't get a little upset when they aren't?
I’m not singling out Mac, Lad. If anyone else was joking around with Vince that much I’d be upset at them too.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
You got me
Anger piles up when my team’s losing. Shame on me for being that guy.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
For shame!
Its ok, there’s always one of you. We still love ya.
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whew, I was getting worried.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
As my wife always says
"Sometimes I just want to hear it"
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 6:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
landry
what pisses me off so much is that the refs absolutley HATE Alandry…no matter what team we play he never gets the call…that last play where he was boxing out was not a foul…thats how u box out
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions
Hey I got an idea
Chuck could be our 3rd point guard when Yao comes back. Any takers?
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 7:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
wats poppin guys
I’m new to this site here. I’m a Laker first guy but the Rockets are my second favorite team. I especially love them this year since they always play hard and never quit. Not to mention my boy TA is now wearing the red. Hope ya’ll dont ban me for sayin I’m a Laker guy first (crap, maybe I shouldnt have said that)
If I could ban you I would
Haha just fuckin with ya. If you got respect for houston than you’ll be good here.
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 7:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I knew someone would be all sarcastic and shit lol
by desecrator09 on Dec 23, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Haha of course dude it had to be done
by RedRowdy420 on Dec 23, 2009 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Would you like to be banned?
I haven’t done it yet, my deputy sheriff badge is all shiny and new.
Of course, you’ve not said anything that remotely warrants a ban, but I’ll do it if you ask nicely.
I hate the NBA TV schedule makers…
… because they didn’t put the Rockets on national TV at all so I had to buy the NBA League Pass.
That’s bad enough but they decided to screw me over again by putting some Rocket games only on NBA TV so even though I paid $169 to be able to see Houston play on TV, I don’t get to see all the games because I didn’t pay for NBA TV, too.
Total BS…
I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
I have to go to work now so…
… I won’t even get to watch the replay of the game tomorrow.
I love how they didn’t think this year’s Rockets were good enough to show on “free” TV but they are plenty good enough to be on NBA TV a lot.
Like I said, total BS…
I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
by steeler-hater on Dec 23, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
larger issues:
can’t buy a layup
difficult time on the glass
Doesn’t help that Chuck got called for some silly fouls or that Landry could get hit in the face and not get a call, but there are bigger problems.
surprised TA hasnt had a career first half
tryin to show up the team that traded him cuz they thought he was garbage. (Well, I’m sure he liked how that trade ended up though)
shades of
i hate to say it…ron ron
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Aaaaaand we're right back where we started the second quarter... down 12.
If Ariza is going to suck two to three games for every one game he actually shows signs of being worth what the Rockets paid for him, then the proud tradition of the Rockets getting shafted on free agent signings will continue unabated.
Just one of those nights
good shots not falling, bad opponents shots are falling, shit happens.
It’s a good thing I’m a baseball fan. It gives one perspective on the length of a season, as well as the variability in any one game.
Perspective is good.
So is Orlando. Good team, on a good night for them, and yet another frickin’ back-to-back. Dribblehooper has told me the schedule will get easier, I certainly hope so.
I'm guessing the work firewall -- or something similar -- is messing with my reply button.
It just seems to me that Ariza has a lot of one-fer nights, while taking something like the second- or third-highest number of shots. That kind of gaping void in offense is very difficult to overcome even with the best defense.
I'd say his shot selection is a work in progress.
The SBN boards can get twitchy sometimes, maybe its your firewall, maybe not.
and yet
here we are. And by all the metrics I’ve seen, he comes out ahead. Yes, even in Berri’s WP48, which penalizes volume shooters quite heavily.
Do you really think that the Rockets would be playing someone 40 minutes each night if he was a net negative on the team? If you don’t (and you shouldn’t, btw), do you really think you have a better grasp on Ariza’s contributions than Adelman and Morey?
no, it certainly doesn't
but that isn’t what DribbleHooper was saying. Ariza – right now – is worth every penny the Rockets pay for him. Anyone saying he isn’t simply isn’t valuing defense properly.
his defense
has started to tail off. i don’t know if we’re asking too much of him on the offensive end or just playing him too much but he’s looking like he’s regressed since the start of the year
also
looking at our offensive and defensive efficiencies with ariza on/off the court, we’re actually 2.8 points better per 100 possessions without ariza playing. i know it’s not a perfect metric, just something worth noting
i might be mistaken
but i’m looking at the on court/off court stats at 82 games. it says our offensive efficiency is 107.5 with him and 111.0 without him while our defensive efficiency is 106.6 with him and 107.2 without him.
I mean adjusted for strength of opposition
they should be using last year’s adjustments, but the new adjustments won’t be available for some time.
Repeated apologies for the non-reply replies. Not sure what's going on.
I’ll go so far as to agree that Adelman and Morey must be seeing something I’m not. In all fairness, all I get to see is the box score/live update, being (a) out of state and (b) at work. Therefore, I can’t really see his defense in action, so I’ll own that I am speaking out of ignorance with regard to his defensive contributions.
Still, that bad shot selection really hurts a team that, in all honesty, can’t really afford to have such poor offensive outings from one of its starters… particularly when two more starters are also notoriously low-output offensively (Hayes and Battier).
I suppose the thing that would make me feel a little better about nights like these, is knowing how Ariza’s contract compares to Battier’s. If they’re comparable — and I want to say I’ve read elsewhere (probably from you?) that they are — then I guess I can’t really complain.
Not that this will stop me… ;)
Ariza
is paid about $1 million less than Battier. It increases over the years, but it should be very similar. He gets the MLE – so he’s necessarily paid as an average player.
I am so tired of the rookie whistle for him
He commits fouls, mind you, but the silly ticky tack crap should stop.
ariza...
they need to take ariza out and get someone else in
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions
i think we just run out of time to plug the hole.......... :(
thanks TA. thanks alot….. thanks alot………………..
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
It'll be really nice when Andersen starts developing some consistency.
Of course, it’d help if the whistles on him also develop some consistency, as Xiane pointed out.
good for brooks
only time ive really seen him get angry…i kinda wish adelman woulda backed him up there….
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 8:18 PM CST reply actions
and for that matter i wouldnt mind
lowry, landry, and anderson backing him up too…maybe circle up the ref then pick up some T’s
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda annoying listening to the commentary. This is from earlier-
“Rockets look like they just don’t care. We all now they have had a brutal schedule because of all thier whining and crying, but whining and crying doesn’t get you anything in the NBA”
HARRIS
does it even say harris on the back of his jersey?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 23, 2009 8:21 PM CST reply actions
So I totally called everything about this game
Offensive Rebounds: Six.
Dwight Howard shot attempts: Seven.
The Dream Shake ...on Twitter.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
Great job announcers
We all know that the rockets are the last team to cry and whine about anything.
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