Bad news, Tracy: You probably aren't getting traded
Yesterday, the Rockets acknowledged the rumors - they will seek to trade Tracy McGrady. In the interim, McGrady has been given an "indefinite" leave of absence so as not to be a distraction to the team. As a result of this announcement, the NBA trade machine has gone into hyperdrive by wannabe GMs around the world (and, presumably, by Daryl Morey himself).
The McGrady dilemma, however, is like a real-world mathematics problem. But it's more of a non-linear differential equation with unknown variables exceeding the amount of known equations. It most definitely isn't a basic arithmetic problem. No, there are many assumptions that will have to be made that prevent any "solution" to the problem from being simple.
/hey, ma, look! I just put my applied mathematics degree to use! In analogy form!!/

Here are a few of these aforementioned variables we need to consider when analyzing a potential Tracy McGrady trade:
- McGrady's 2009/10 salary is about $23.2M.
- McGrady's contract expires after this season.
- McGrady is a 30 year old shooting guard coming off serious knee surgery.
McGrady is a whiny bitch.- The Rockets do not want to take on bad contracts in return.
- The Rockets do not want to take on malcontents or disruptive personalities.
- Anyone who wants to trade for McGrady's expiring contract must likely fall within the parameters of the 125% rule.
- Daryl Morey is smarter than all of us.
- Isiah Thomas, Kevin McHale, Rob Babcock, Billy King and Scott Layden are no longer employed as GMs for any NBA team.
- The NBA salary cap is going to shrink next summer. (Rumors are that it may sink below $53M. And that may be optimistic.)
- Right now the NBA salary cap is $57.7M.
- The luxury tax breaking point is $69.92M.
- The Rockets are already over the NBA salary cap at $74.3M.
- Just because McGrady's contract expires does notmean that the Rockets (or McGrady's future team) will automatically have $23.2M to spend on free agents next year.
- Luis Scola and Kyle Lowry also have contracts expiring this summer. Lowry is, however, a restricted free agent with a qualifying offer of just under $3M the Rockets can offer him.
- Brian Cook is also a free agent, but he's more worthless than Alec Baldwin.
- The Rockets already have $43.7M committed in salary for next season. This does not count Lowry's qualifier. Nor does it take into consideration that Yao has an opt-out clause he can exercise on July 1, 2010. But all expectations are that Yao will not opt-out.
- A lot of NBA teams are dead broke.
- Robert Horry is (probably) not walking through that door.
- The Rockets will also have to make room to sign whatever 2nd round rookie diamond Daryl Morey unearths this year.
So, when we take all of the above into consideration, it appears far more likely -- and prudent -- that the Rockets just send McGrady on the Iverson/Marbury Expiring Contract Vacation™. The Rockets certainly cannot afford to give Tracy McGrady a buyout. Nor is McGrady dumb enough to accept anything less than the full value of his contract to gain his freedom to sign with anyone he chooses. So, a buyout is unlikely, too (at least until after the trading deadline in February - then McGrady may get the itch to play and Morey can use this as leverage).
Besides, who would the Rockets really target in a trade for McGrady? They aren't going to trade McGrady for any of the 2010 free agents - so don't expect to see Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade or Amare Stoudemire in a Rockets uniform this spring. Though, if the Rockets trade McGrady for Shaquille O'Neal or Carlos Boozer -- I quit as a fan.
Chris Paul has been mentioned many times as a potential option. He may be the *only* player that would make sense for the Rockets to acquire. The Rockets would almost certainly have to give up Luis Scola and/or Carl Landry (and this would make me cry), but when you get a chance to acquire Chris Paul - you kinda have to sacrifice some good players to make it work. I would be on board with this trade wholeheartedly.

Then again, why would New Orleans trade Chris Paul? The owners need money, yes, but if you trade Chris Paul away - you are basically giving up and saying "we don't want a basketball team in New Orleans anymore." Taking on an expiring contract like McGrady would be the true equivalent of shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. Conclusion? While I love the concept of a Chris Paul trade to pair him with Yao -- I just do not see it happening. Not this year at least.
What does that leave us?
Well, it means we can't pair McGrady and Brian Cook in a trade together. It also means that while the Rockets probably will make every effort to trade McGrady - they aren't going to trade him just for the sake of trading him. If it is in the best interests of the team to let McGrady sit on the sidelines until July, that's precisely what they are going to allow to happen.
So, you New York Knicks fans trying to pawn off Jared Jeffries and Eddy Curry? Tough luck. Daryl Morey ain't Isiah Thomas. Do not expect the Rockets to trade McGrady anytime soon. Then again, I guess we should never underestimate the idiocy of NBA GMs...
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Good stuff, Dave
I see this playing out like the Carlos Boozer situation has in Utah. Both sides agree to work on a trade, the team is unwilling to take other teams garbage just to make it work, then the player just shuts up and waits out or plays through his contract until it expires.
I wouldn’t at all be shocked to see the deadline pass and then Tracy decides to play for The Rockets again. Not that Rick Adelman would allow that, but he would be willing.
At this point, I am happy we have Daryl Morey. Because Carroll Dawson, as much as I loved him, would probably do the Curry or Delambert trade just to get it over with.
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by Mike Kerns on Dec 30, 2009 11:41 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
for one, McGrady isn't coming back under any circumstances
And two… you are right about Carroll Dawson… and this is why I really think having a “CD” hanging in the rafters is a terrible, terrible idea.
After watching
what the Hornets have done with CP3 and mediocre talent I would love to see him play with the guys Daryl Morey can put together. That being said, you’re probably right a trade is not gonna happen and T-mac will come back and get paid obscene amounts of money to play in garbage time. I never thought I would see the day that a 36 year old Juwan Howard would get more minutes than Tracy… what a shame
by clutchcitywillreturn on Dec 30, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions
i hate CP3
he is just a stat machine, doesn’t really help his team win ball games.
no seriously.
he sucks. he will never win a championship and he will never make it to the finals.
Plus, he is a whiny girl, if we give up landry for paul I quit as a Rocket’s fan.
he sucks.
you keep saying this…
he will never win a championship
Probably not. Very few players do.
and he will never make it to the finals
see above
Plus, he is a whiny girl
I like to think of it as “spirit”
if we give up landry for paul I quit as a Rocket’s fan.
Dude, I’ve seen the Rockets trade away my favorite player twice now, and it’s likely that they’ll do it a third time by the end of the season. And if you’re getting upset over the Rockets trading an all-star quality forward for an MVP-quality guard, you need to check how you evaluate players.
Chris Paul is the best point guard in the NBA right now, and it’s entirely possible that he’ll go down as the greatest 1-guard to have ever played the game when he finishes his career. He’s transcendent. He can do practically everything, he does those things superbly well, and the only player better right now is Lebron. His only problem is that he plays for a shitty team with a bad GM and a cheap owner.
idk id still take kobe over CP3
and carmelo anthony as well. and brandon roy, etc. etc. etc. yeah im glad this is all your opinion and not actual reality. just b/c he is the MVP of his team doesnt exactly translate that he will be so of the NBA one day, he gets the kind of stats that he does because he’s a huge majority of their offense b/c of the players they have, give him scorers and those stats go down. and im sorry but i have to agree with SOME of the things ainsworth said, more so of the whiny girl part, and its b/c he is. it was real early in the game last night and hes already bitching to the refs already b/c HE WANTS the superstar foul, as opposed to ABZ who has played through numerous non calls this year and doesnt say a word about it. yes he may voice his frustration but hes not gonna bitch and moan about it, just get ready for the next trip down the floor, someone whos gonna rise above it. and he has many times this year to LEAD our team both on the floor and in scoring. and i believe clyde put it best last night about brooks…..one of the most UNDERAPPRECIATED players.
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You, sir
Have also lost ALL credibility.
He’s whiny? Great – more free throws! How do you think Kobe gets to the line so much?
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Chirs Paul is the only player I trade any of the young guys for
For a possibility to net Chris Paul, any player not named Carl Landry is out of here for me. Say we got Paul and Peja for Tmac and Aaron Brooks (not sure how close the salaries match), I do that in a flash. Next season, when Yao returns, I’d have to think we go from pretty good to instant title contenders.
However, I don’t see why New Orleans dumps CP3. So why drool over it?
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im not looking to impress
you or any floating names on the INTERNET. yes i see your name at the bottom of the page, and i congratulate you this is a nice place to talk rox, but pump your brakes of you think i need your “credibility” towards the way i watch the game and root for my rockets. maybe you want to get a superstar over hear so those kind of foul can help us to the post season, and i would like the post season to dont get me wrong, but not if its gonna be game worth of bullshit that i saw last night. we barely look at the guy with bad intentions of making a basketball play the whistle goes off, its pathetic. thats the only difference is the hype cp3 gets by the commercials he makes and yada yada yada. when abz should have been called for WAY MORE fouls than he has this year. but just b/c he doesnt have the word superstar floating around his name ppl dont care, just like if a guy could put out 20 9 and 9 its not notice enough b/c of the awe of a “double double” or a “triple double”. gameplay is more important than stats.
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Huh?
Is he talking to me? Or you, Tom?
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You, sir.
Just lost ALL credibility.
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TMac for Jermaine ONeal?
When my friend first suggested a few weeks ago what he thought TMac for Jermaine ONeal would be the most likely landing spot for TMac, my initial thoughts were that the Rockets would never do that trade because what use do the Rockets have for a declining center with injury histories and limited mobility. His response was that we needed a big body who could match up with some of the bigger centers and we weren’t going to get anything out of TMac, and JO was expiring so why not give it a try.
On the other hand, I was holding onto the hope that TMac would be of some use for the Rockets this year. Call me a romantic, but when I think of TMac, I still have visions of him hitting for 13 points in 35 seconds and sucking the gravity out of the building, and I thought that his passing ability would be a useful skill for this Rockets team. I’m also sick of watching Trevor Ariza go 4-18 and play uninspired defense, and he doesn’t need to be playing 40 minutes a night. And in fact, in TMac’s limited playing time, I still thought TMac possessed enough skill that he could provide something for the team off the bench as a role player, but clearly Tracy’s ego and mindset is not suited for that role (although I don’t see anything wrong with playing him some in the second half, which leads me to the conspiracy theory that I’ve heard floating around that somehow the insurance policy has some sort of provision that as long as TMac plays under 8 minutes the insurance would continue to pay out…).
But now that Tracy clearly has played his last game as a Rocket, my position has reversed and it seems to me that it would be a hard sell for the Rockets to convince the Heat that they have something to gain in making a swap for TMac, but I think there’s a pitch that could be made. Even though Jermaine ONeal has actually been productive for the Heat this year (averaging 13 points on 57% shooting with 7 rebounds and a block in almost 30 minutes of work), the Heat aren’t going anywhere in the East with the team that they have. TMac and Wade worked out together in the summer with the trainer in Chicago and maybe Wade has some kind thoughts about TMac. Pat Riley has a boner for “superstars.” The Rockets throw in Dorsey so that Miami can have a guy that can mix it up down low since their backup centers are Joel Anthony and Jamaal Magloire. The Heat still aren’t going anywhere in the East, but do they say no to that deal? I don’t think there’s anyway the Rockets say no, and I don’t think it’s so unbalanced that the Heat necessarily dismiss it, but I think this seems like the most likely option.
ps: I agree that the TMac and whoever (AB or Landry or Battier or any combination of those guys) for Chris Paul and whatever bad contracts they might want to shed (Peja, MoPete, Songaila, Posey) is silly as there’s no way the Hornets trade a top three player to just start over
I already mentioned this in my fanpost
Jermaine O’Neal for T-Mac is useless because we probably would have to take a bad contract back with us, and the Rockets really won’t contend for a title even if we have O’Neal
On the other hand, the Heat are actually a competitive team in the East and have no motivation whatsoever to trade a decent big man for a bag of garbage
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by n1ck34 on Dec 30, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The Heat aren’t close to competitive with any of the Magic, Celtics, Cavs or even Hawks. It’s not close. JO for TMac would be straight up and I think you might be able to convince the Heat that there’s some upside with TMac. Maybe not, but it’s potentially “useless” for either team because neither one is doing anything this year. But I’m not so sure that TMac is a bag of garbage, and I would bet that there are some people around the league who think he may have something left.
Unless the Heat are operating under some illusion...
this trade will never happen…maybe the Heat do think T-Mac has something left, but how do you sell this to your fanbase? I can agree that the Heat cant compete with the top 4, but the ownership is not about to trade away a guy that is putting up 13 and 7 nightly for a question mark in the midst of a playoff race.
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well
I guess I just think the national perception of TMac is different than how Houston fans view him. I know a lot of Houston fans (cough grungedave cough) have some real bitterness toward TMac but I think the casual Miami fan would be pretty excited about getting a name like TMac.
I think perhaps Buy-out works is the real plan
After testing the trades for a week or so if nothing looks good buy him out.
If they can talk TMac into cutting his year 2.5 million instead of sitting all year, they drop under the tax line now and save 5 mil on that contract, and get 3 million profit back from other teams.
TMac knows at worst he would lose very little of it, even if he takes a Vet Minimum exception. And better to be playing before the free agent summer.
The negative is if he gets a spot on a conference rival and helps them.
Speaking of which.
Does insurance pay for the games he misses now? I know they were paying for games missed due to injury, but how about “leave of absence?” If the Rockets are getting 80% of his salary paid for, there’s NO WAY they’re buying him out.
Not that I think they’ll do it anyway, unless they see some D-League gem they need the roster spot for.
Actually it does
Per Larry Coons:
“The agreed-upon buy-out amount (see question number 59) is included in the team salary instead of the salary called for in the contract.”
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q59
My best guess is McGrady works to get in top shape-and works out for team execs that just happened to go to Chicago w/their team-and after about 41 games asks for a buy-out. The Rockets are @ $3.5mil over Lux Tax so an offer of that amount off means the Rockets save an equal amount of Lux Tax,gets the team into the pool of money for teams not in Tax and w/the insurance money earlier should cover the amount of salary owed for second half of season.
ppls hard on for chris paul is sickening.
yes he is a great PG. but how about the guy that OUTPLAYED him last night and isnt too far along himself from being a great PG also. “but he’s so good that he can set up shots for anybody”, once again, did everybody not pay attention to ABZ’s game last night. yeah his assists are not jumping off the stat sheet (b/c that is something most ppl are going to base a players game off of, and its sad) but no ones stats like that are. were not a team that a assist is gonna come from one player, we spread the floor and share the ball so the last player it touches should have a decent shot to put up. and ABZ is just as a lethal scorer as CP3 sick crossovers, layups, 3pt shot, alot of etc. AND your willing to give up landry??? who himself could turn into one the leagues best forwards….but “its fucking.chris.paul”…..please. aaron burned mr. paul many times last nigt and when it was vice versa brooks played excellent defense. i dont need everybodys individual stats of why we should do it, its not something i havent heard before or seen myself.
but why spend money on him when we have a diamond in a rough already suited up in rockets red??? and the most sickening….“The Rockets would almost certainly have to give up Luis Scola and/or Carl Landry (and this would make me cry), but when you get a chance to acquire Chris Paul – you kinda have to sacrifice some good players to make it work.” correction, those 2, are great players and the only other post presence we have with Yao out.
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I like Brooks as much as the next guy...
…but come on. Brooks outscored Paul last night, and that’s it. He had less than half of the assists and rebounds. But even if you want to accept that Brooks’ overall performance was better, you can’t tell anything from one game.
thank you....
i do agree his OVERALL performance was better last night, as you said. but just one game??? yeah, against the hornets, abz has displayed great play throughout the season. yes he is inconsistent at times but but even thats the limited time he has because of our offense that is designed to keep the ball moving aorund, the ball doesnt even start off in his hands most of the time when plays are being set up, which i cant understand b/c he can create just as well as paul. not to mention the time he shares with lowry either at PG or when abz is moved to the another spot in certain packages.
the kid is a natural born scorer, his 3pt shot is only going to get more lethal imo, he puts the sweetest english on his layups(IN THE LAND OF THE GIANTS), and i hope i dont even need to remind you of the CROSSOVER. soudin like a red lambo coming to a hault. this kids overall game is the shit, and has great vision of the floor also. dont get me wrong i would love for CP3 to be a rocket, but not at the expense of ABZ and other players as ive stated before b/c that’s what it would take to get him i would think. in the league now you pretty much need 2 starting squads, and wouldnt CP3 and ABZ a nice 1-2 punch.
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you sound like clyde
and that’s not going in your favor…
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outplayed him? paul had a triple double!
and please, brooks is one of the least consistent point guards that the west has to offer.
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ahh yes the mighty triple double....
that is a very nice STAT and has a nice ring to it. and i can tell your really big on that. but what i look at and saw last night was when it looked like the hornets were on the way to run us out of our own house and we needed points badly abz came in the clutch(along w/ battier just so im not sounding one sided) and when we finally got the lead back and it looked like it was going to evaporate abz led the charge in icing the game with a nice cherry from trev. but when NO was close to winning and needed the points CP3 couldnt come thru with the chances he had and a few open looks if i might add. and some are saying hes number two behind lebron? with the far greater talent that is out there? kobe, roy, melo, pierce, etc all hit alot of those shots paul left on the floor. that seems to be the vibe about this “fucking.chris.paul.” guy. yeah i know its just one game, against the hornets, and you cant go based on just that performance but brooks has been playing good ball all year. yes he has a slight consistency problem but that is on the way to being fixed i can almost guarantee you that, there is no quit in this kid, and there has been alot more progess than degress if any. listen i know paul is a great talent, not at the expense of a great talent also like brooks and others that would have to go in the package.
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dude, if you’re going to discount Chris Paul’s statistical contributions and then appeal to some metaphysical notion of “clutchness,” then you have nothing to say. Fine, you’re expressing an opinion, but it’s not one backed up by reality.
actually what im saying
is that yes the stats are nice and everything but can easily be the majority in the beginning of the game, but the stats dont tell the trail off of scoring that may have happened in the latter parts of the game. and i didnt say there was a measure of clutchness, but rather that alot of his shot ARE in cluch moments. which you should be able to tell well, your in the city of it. and i see you are stating your opinion, one that is not backed up by reality, your living in the world of chris paul.
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and just to add....
i didnt think you were gonna get all butt hurty by all the clutch talk, but saying that, those shots that are hit with “clutchness” show up on the stat sheet also. so that should make you happy. right? abz’s still a rocket u know? and the points he scores, which is a team leading avg is good for us. lol.
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I'm going to be totally honest here
I don’t give a fuck about what you just wrote, because your shit’s pretty much incomprehensible. lrn2write.
i thought youd have a higher capability
to figure it out than it having to be an english class in here, last time i checked it was a blog. and nice way to pull out a big word, lmao scary man with his words, put your dictionary away. and thanks for the honesty, didnt think i would strike a nerve. lol keep it about basketball in here not my writing, cant read it dont sweat it, dont need your approval. another opinion to discuss maybe. but not your approval.
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sorry to burst your bubble.
but i wont be your friend off the net. keep it moving please.
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says you
and that’s not alot.
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now im just playing your games
which have become childish all of a sudden. u may want to go check the stove, pending on if you like your bottle lukewarm or near boiling.
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Lowry and Paul
I would prefer this combo over the Brooks/Paul combo since Lowry is more of a power pt guard who can really rebound. Maybe trade Scola, Brooks, T-Mac for Paul? :-) Wishful thinking on my part and the salaries don’t match anyway..haha
by inquisitiveman on Dec 30, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
great rebounder yes
but he is no way near the scorer that brooks is, i dont even want to see him take a shot from 3 pt land. and his shooting from inside the line isnt that great either. he is a good PG no doubt, i just think brooks would be the better overall player.
hey watch those smiley faces….its not instant messaging or a text message in here im told. bs talk, i know.
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No way near the scorer?
He averages more points per game!!
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True,but
that is what Paul is for. You want a combo that can complement each other. That is why Brooks/Lowry have been a success for the Rockets. Lowry is the guy who isn’t afraid to drive to the hole and also get rebounds. Brooks is more of the guy who drives, stops, and pops. He shoots the perimeter.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 31, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
yes it's a blog
That means it’s not instant messaging or a text message.
Write in full complete sentences.
I have no clue what you're writing to begin with
Paragraphs and sentences are nice things.
Furthermore, you get your hands on Chris Paul, you trade anything and everything. I would trade half of this team to get my hands on someone who has singlehandedly kept the Hornets somewhat in this playoff race.
Frankly, if I could get any one player in the entire league without trading anyone, it would be either Paul or Melo, and no one else is close. Kobe and Nash are old and wouldn’t be in our long term plans, Lebron, Bosh, and Wade are expiring, and we don’t need Howard long-term for obvious reasons.
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Let's look at it this way, Aaron is good. Real good and I love him.
He has his moments but he won’t be heading towards a hall of fame career the same way Paul is. He won’t be in the discussion when people talk of greatest points guards ever but Paul will be when the time comes. and about the comment below that Paul isn’t the scorer Brooks is, the averages and point total speaks of the truth. I hate defending other teams players but that’s the truth. I’ll hate Paul come game time though when he keeps wearing that Hornets jersey against my team.
so plz, enlighten me....
what does it take to get into the hall in your opinion? and i may need to clear up something, the whole better scorer evaluation was between brooks and lowry. look i know how talented chris paul is and i would love him to wear the rockets uni. but at what cost??? ppl talk about they dont want to mess up team chemistry, but yet they think if cp3 were to just step in here things would just be as smooth right away b/c “he’s chris paul” and im just not buying it. the transition from key scorer for a team that is not so great (thats why he gets his stats) to having to share the spotlight with the likes of yao, scola, landry would take time on its own. of course this is all saying that we could acquire him w/o giving up too much. lol
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Paul is better than ABZ and a couple other players,
please don’t say he isn’t.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
yeah, but what clyde said....
was to the extent that abz could be one of the best PG’s in the game, and he said it playing a game against one of the best in the league. does everybody not pay attention to the broadcast he and bill put up? i like to keep going to clydes quotes, b/c id rather listen to what he has to say, a future hall of famer.
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this is the Michael Jordan corollary
Clyde Drexler was an excellent basketball player. He was amazing.
But he’s terrible at team evaluation and player evaluation. He says things during the broadcast that make me want to throw things. Look, I know he’s trying to be a “homer” for the fans watching, but ABZ is never going to be an All-Star, much less the best PG to ever play the game (a pace Chris Paul is on).
thats a big difference
jordan uses his fame as the basis of everything he does. and i do like jordan, but not to the extent that ppl are willing to gravel at his feet. so dont get it confused as if im using drex as my basis, but he does say alot of good things more often than bad. if he was so bad he would have been all over the tmac debacle saying that it was a huge mistake to let him go and that he would have been a great contributor. but he went on to say that we need to let it be and just move on b/c we have a squad that can get it done. i agree with you that CP3 will go down as ONE of the best to play the game, but “THE” best. come on now, that is a bold statement, and i think abz will be up there as one of the best also. good things come to those who wait and brooks is on the rise. what do you expect from a guy that didnt get the opportunity to start like chris had, and had to sit and learn behind the likes of rafer alston, although i love rafe but not the primary player i want my young PG taking lessons from. and this is the mans FIRST full season at being the starting PG in a SHORT career, when he was thrown into the fire last season, he played really well and was one of the main reasons we went as far as we did. time and time before he has went toe to toe and with the leagues best PG’s and he has held his own very well.
VY (to all his haters/doubters): "I love ya'll too!!"
"Titans & Texans fan, dont bug me w/your petty b.s., life's confusing enough."
I really only like
T-Mac and Cook for Martin
or
TMac and Cook for Maggette and Randolph
Not sure if either teams would do it, but i really think a shooter like Martin is something we need…Maggette too is good at shooting and driving
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 30, 2009 4:51 PM CST reply actions
I agree with you Grungedave
I don’ think he will be traded. It is hard to trade him and get equal value without long term contracts that the Rockets will get stuck in. I do think though that a buyout is a possibility after the trade deadline passes since the Rockets only owe him 11 million(prorated for season which i think the insurance pays already) at that point.
Here is where i think it will be a problem. After the trade deadline, T-Mac will get upset about not being traded. He will ask to be released/cut/buyout. If the Rockets don’t agree to do that, you can bet T-Mac will make it a distraction. That is where the Rockets might have to end up releasing him. I do think that if he is released/bought out, he will sign with San Antonio which gives him the best chance to win a title and minutes to play.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 30, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions
Multi-team trade could work
there is a chance that 3 way team trade could make t-mac tradable, but i don’t know exactly how that works, just from what i’ve seen in the past about 3 way team trades. i seriously doubt new orleans will give up chris paul. in the end, why would any team trade for t-mac when they haven’t seen him play the max yet. they don’t know if his injury is fully healed. the only way they would trade for t-mac is giving up mediocre or junk players which the rockets will never accept.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 30, 2009 11:39 PM CST reply actions
Caron Butler to Houston
There was a twitter by some guy that Caron Butler might be headed to Houston. Don’t know what his salary is, but that seems strange that the Rockets would get another small forward for T-Mac.
David Lee
I was thinking about this last night. David Lee signed a 7mil one year contract with the Knicks. I really don’t think he will resign with them considering how poorly they played and he can get more $$ elsewhere next summer. Also, the Knicks are going after Lebron which is no guarantee that they will sign him, so David is looking at it from that perspective. I noticed the salaries for Jefferies and Curry were 6mil and 10mil respectively. If you add in all 3 salaries, it will be 23mil which is what T-Mac is worth. I’m assuming that Jefferies and Curry’s contracts are expiring this year.
I don’t see why the Knicks/Rockets wouldn’t make this trade. The Knicks are pretty much gonna lose David Lee next year anyway and they can get rid of Jefferies and Curry since they were in the original proposal for trade rumors. So many of you are probably asking me why we would want another center. I really think the Rockets can do something special. It is premature to call them championship material, but you just never know. Basically, why not ‘rent’ him for this season since we don’t want T-Mac anyway and at least we’re getting something for T-Mac instead of letting his contract expire and get nothing for it. Also, having David for next summer can be a great bargaining chip for other teams who might want him as David might want to stay with Houston and possibly even move to power forward when Yao returns. We could do a sign and trade with David possibly getting us another great player in addition to going after DWade. :-)
David will provide us with an inside presence to matchup better with big teams like the Cavs, Lakers, etc. The guy is a monster rebounder and can score though i really haven’t watched his game completely to know if he is a good 10-12 ft perimeter shooter like Scola. For me, Curry and Jefferies would be a throw-in to match the salaries. The key is getting David Lee. Curry is also a big 7footer though my memories of him haven’t been too fond. Any thoughts from you guys?





















