Game Preview - Houston Rockets at Utah Jazz - Game 62 - 8:00PM CST March 04, 2009
by UofTOrange on Mar 4, 2009 12:00 PM CST
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The Match-ups:
Point Guard
Brooks - Running the offense with a lot of authority, it's been key that Adelman has made it be known that what Aaron calls, goes. His shooting is not thre right now,but he has the ability to get it there, the minutes are just weighing on him right now. Is this the game that Lowry gets a bit more minutes, maybe even splitting them 24 to 24?
vs.
Williams - Averaging 18.6 PPG and 10.5 APG, that's just sick. Then look at what he's done versus the Rockets 23 PPG and 11 APG, so he gets better against us. That doesn't bode very well considering that Aaron Brooks has to find a way to guard him. Here's the thing though, Aaron is fast enough to stay in front of him. Obviously the Jazz will throw illegal picks like they've done since the caveman days, but ABZ may actually be fast enough to get around that pick. Color me intrigued.
Edge: Jazz
Shooting Guard
Battier - His shooting has to get better for the Rockets to win tonight. I expect him to hit 2 big 3 pointers, hopefully only shooting 3-4. I'm not sure what happened to his shot, it's never been great, but it's always been dependable. His defensive intensity has been insane though, so we can really overlook the shooting for the most part. You almost can't score on him right now without shooting 20+ times.
vs.
Brewer - He has been on absolute fire during the Jazz 8-1 run over their last 9 games including tonight. He's been arguably the reason the team has taken off again. That's scary news for other teams around the league. He even lit up White Pills the last time they played us (in a loss naturally). He's going to be a great player, it angers me every day that the Hornets skipped him in the draft. Of course he's a dirty filthy Piggy, so he deserves having to live in Utah.
Edge: Even - Brewer is better than Shane overall, but the match-up is really White Pills on defense
Small Forward
Artest - This is the first time Ron Ron has gone to Utah as a Houston Rocket, and after this:
I'm giddy to say the least
vs.
Miles - He's their fifth starter, so that's actually good for them. He's not anywhere in Artest or Battier's class and he's not particualry good at any one thing. You can see him turning his game around though and becoming an NBA player. I'm very happy that Boozer is going to blow this team up in the offseason.
Edge: Rockets
Power Forward
Scola -
"Everybody is going to be thinking about Yao," said Scola, averaging 15.1 points and 11.8 rebounds while shooting 56.5 percent during the Rockets' 8-1 surge. "We need to punish them for that. So, hopefully, they'll stop thinking about him. That's what we've got to do."
vs.
Boozer -
According to a source who participated in the meeting when the Cavaliers decided to allow him to become a free agent, Boozer told Gund, "If you respect me by not picking up the option, I'll show trust and loyalty to you by signing with you."
Edge: Rockets - Because Luis Scola and Carl Landry aren't D-Bags
Center
Yao - The Utah Jazz are his worst matchup in the league on the defensive end, there I said it. They are one of his best matchups on the offensive end. Why does no one get this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills and invented the piano neck tie! And with his new found ability to block shots, I think this game will finally swing in his favor on defense. Now we just need for the NBA to get it's referee's heads out of their respective butts.
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Okur - I hate this guy more so than any other player on the Jazz since Karl "I'm hunting little Mexican girls and statuorily raping 13 year old and don't recognize my own children as mine" Malone. I'm also sick of hearing about him "outplaying Yao". Neither guards the other with any consistency and it's so stupid to take what is effectively tall small forward and pretend Yao should be able to guard him. You wouldn't ask Yao to guard Dirk, would you? So why is it that people expect Yao to go out to the three point line for Okur? It's silly, the Rockets need to employ the zone more against the Jazz and it will "fix the glitch"
Edge: Rockets
Injuries
Houston Rockets
OUT - This is the last time I put it down, McGrady is out for the season
Utah Jazz
OUT - None
My Prediction: Rockets are 2-0, will be 1-0 (to be 2-0) making it 4-0, then when it inevitably happens, 4-2
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I'm confused. You put the edge to Luis Landry because they ARE d-bags.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No idea what you are talking about
;-)
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by UofTOrange on Mar 4, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see you changed it. honest mistake.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also really confused at your prediction.
I mean, I know you are picking the Rockets to sweep the season series and then win in 6 in the playoffs, but what is the (will be 1-0 (to be 2-0)) all about?
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1-0 about to be 2-0
That’s for games played in podunkville, Utah.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jazz are 9 point favorites
That seems too high. Rockets cover, Jazz win. 99-94
by Scrum on Mar 4, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
where do find info of the “9 point spread” ?
by xsupan0va on Mar 4, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
22 in a row
The 22 game winning streak to close out the season has begun.
Finally, a 60 win season. Nice.
by canlah on Mar 4, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Edge to Scola?
Edge to Scola… seriously? Because he isn’t a d-bag? Has anyone seen his haircut?
Non-homer matchup breakdown:
PG: Jazz
SG: Jazz
SF: Rockets (damn Artest is good)
F: Jazz (saying Scola/Landry have an advantage on Boozer/Milsap just undermines any credibility you may have built up to this point)
C: Draw (mismatches on opposite ends of floor as noted)
Bench: Jazz (Bench play is the reason there’s a 9 point spread. The Jazz’s only weakness on the bench is PG, and DWill knows how to play 40 minutes).
If douchebaggery was a reason to lose basketball games, the Lakers never would’ve won any rings.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Calling Yao a draw is insanely idiotic, that is all
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by UofTOrange on Mar 4, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaahahaa
You were doing fine and making a credible argument until you said Yao is a draw. That’s funny.
karma is a bitch, this is why Utah has no rings.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
after looking at this again... I award you no points
I still cannot fathom how anyone could put “Draw” next to the C position when Yao is 100% healthy and not facing 1968-era Wilt Chamberlain. Accordingly, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
see most recent post
They are the best at these photos.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be sad because I'm right.
Look, I love Yao (Hate the Rockets, but a total Yao supporter) but you know he can’t guard Okur on the outer rim. Yao’s gonna score in the paint, but Okur is going to murder him outside. Yao is one of the top 3 centers as a true center, but with Kirilenko’s off the ball blocking (which WILL change Yao’s game) and Okur’s non-center outside shooting, it’s a mismatch that (although acknowledged above) you seem to have become oblivious to in your poor return. Okur’s gonna negate all of Yao’s points = draw.
Bring some thought next time. Save the rhetoric.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Okur is an underrated center and one of the best value players in the league.
February numbers:
Yao 21 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 57% fg, 88% ft, 0 3 pointers taken
Okur 21 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 57% fg, 88% ft, 67% 3pt (21-31)
It isn’t ridiculous to say that Okur is in the company of Yao, especially in Salt Lake. You hate Okur and that’s fine. Yao is fantastic and a better offensive center than Okur, but Okur is as hot as any player in the league right now.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
artificially inflated
Okur got to play against weak teams in February to inflate his stats… hey, cool, it happens.
But let’s not extrapolate one month and ignore things like variance or standard deviation or regression to the mean, shall we?
Conclusion? In no world, not even on planet Utah, is Okur > Yao.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's good for the goose is good for the gander...
Yao and Okur are impossible to compare on an apples to apples basis. They don’t play the same style or tempo, but on a pure numbers basis, you’re wrong here… to say that Feb schedule was weaker for the Jazz is just plain silly.
Let’s break down the Rocket’s schedule in Feb:
Chicago, Memphis, Minn, Milwaukee, Sac, NJ, Dallas, Charlotte, Portland, Cleveland, Chicago. Houston went 8/11.
Okay, you have Dallas, Portland, and Cleveland in there. Those are 3 tough games amidst a cupcake schedule, but only one game against a legit title contender.
Now, let’s look at the Jazz’s Feb schedule:
Charlotte, Dallas, Sac, Golden State, LAL, Memphis, Boston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Minn, Sac. Utah went 10/11.
The Jazz played (and won) five tough games (Dal, LAL, Bos, NO, ATL) including 2 shorthanded wins against legit title contenders (LAL, Bos) .
You really wanna say that Utah had a weaker schedule than Houston? Either you don’t know basketball, or you’re reserving all the false dreams the Dreamshake boys try to ram down your throats. Rhetoric never holds up against facts.
Check your arguments and get back to clarkpojo, who seems to have a legit argument.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
adjust for pace
and then get back to us
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are only a lad, so I will forgive you.
But in every debate you have, I see you resort to the pace argument and it doesn’t magically explain everything in your favor. Pace doesn’t matter in this case. It’s more about minutes played and number of shots. Yao takes a shot every 2.4 minutes he is on the floor. Okur takes a shot every 2.7 minutes that he is on the floor, so Yao has more opportunities to score. They are almost identical in assists and Yao gets 1.5 more rebounds per 48 minutes played. They also shoot about the same free throw percentage but Yao shoots almost 2 more free throws a game, so there is your difference in points scored. Yao is better. He is incredibly skilled and at least 4 inches taller than everyone else. But it isn’t like comparing Artest to Miles, or Battier to Brewer.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quick question: when did Utah play its last game?
Houston played last night. Now we’re playing at Utah. What was your point about scheduling again?
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are talking to the wrong guy. At least get your facts straight. Never said anything about scheduling.
And for the record, GrungeDave was the first person to ever bring up scheduling. Which was a really bad argument.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no
I said not to extrapolate a player’s ability/worth based on only one month (11 games) especially when that was a cakewalk month.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No...
In your post “Artificially Inflated” You said:“Okur got to play against weak teams in February to inflate his stats… hey, cool, it happens”
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and that contradicts what I said...... how?
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
shhh
you’re hurting their little pea-brains. Leave them be.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't see this at first,
but better late than never, right?
You are only a lad, so I will forgive you.
ROFLMAO OH CHRIST YOU ARE SO FUCKING HILARIOUS!
But in every debate you have
Forgive me if I get this wrong, but the only “debate” you’ve ever seen me have was the one with you about whether or not Chris Paul or Deron Williams was better. One argument is not “every.” And the one argument you had with me showed me that you have absolutely no credibility.
I see you resort to the pace argument
That’s because it’s the best way to measure results in basketball. Per minute stats don’t mean shit. Per game stats are even worse.
and it doesn’t magically explain everything in your favor
Never argued that it does. I’m just saying that the per game stats you gave us are meaningless, and that we need to see a wider range of statistics to make a judgment.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this makes me smile
“or you’re reserving all the false dreams the Dreamshake boys try to ram down your throats”
… I can only hope that I believe what I write myself. I can only hope.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also
Amused that Dallas and Atlanta are considered “tough games”
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I made you smile. Good prep for a depressing night in Houston.
On the first comment: Sorry grungedave, I knew that, but you’re forgetable.
On the second: Dallas is in the hunt for a playoff spot in the West (a spot that the Rockets will probably be battling for in a month), and ATL is fourth in the east, so to say either aren’t tough games is ridiculous. Besides, I gave you and us the Dallas game, so if you call shenanigans, fine. That suddenly gives you only two games of consequence in Feb (not helping your poor, poor weak schedule argument). So is it Okur or Yao’s numbers who were inflated for Feb?
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uhhh
I said the Rockets would go undefeated in February, so you’ll never hear/read me say they had it rough. Utah had a cakewalk schedule according to any average month also. The Rockets lost 3 of the games because T-Mac cockblocked us and because Aaron Brooks forgot how to pass. So be it.
the fact that you really think Okur is that good makes me laugh. Continuously.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okur is that good.
What makes me laugh is that Okur is that good (no one EVER said better than Yao, btw). Yao is a better true center (as stated), but it doesn’t mean that Okur isn’t going to get his points and offset Yao’s (a draw, again, as stated).
As far as schedule goes, no contest on the Rocket’s having an easy schedule. You were right/are right. It was easy… but you did say that the comparison of Yao and Memo’s numbers were incorrect because “Okur got to play against weak teams in February to inflate his stats.” That was an inane comment (since the Rockets schedule was far easier than the Jazz’s) and it’s awesome seeing you try and backtrack on it.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yao’s numbers are pretty consistent with his career.
Varmet Okur is a player who flourishes because other players are able to do his job underneath. There is no way he could handle the contact Yao gets, and knowing this he plays a soft outside shooting game. I admire Utah for getting the most from his talent, but he’s a slower softer floppier Dirk Nowitski, but playing “center”. How about this wager – let’s compare career numbers when they’re done, eh?
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
weren't you guys....
playing Dallas, New Orleans, and Los Angeles on the 2nd night of their back to back?
And didn’t Garnett go down with an injury against your team?
I’m just sayin!
by misterterrific on Mar 4, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay sorry.
Over the entire season:
Yao 19.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 54% fg, 0 3 point attempts
Okur 18.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 51% fg, 47% 3 point (67-144)
They shoot a similar ft%, but Ming takes almost 2 more free throws a game. And Ming takes one more shot a game, so there numbers are surprisingly similar. Yao is better than Okur. I am not debating this. BUt Okur is severely underrated in this league and produces better than people realize. Let’s just say Artest over Miles is more obvious than Yao over Okur.
I did have to laugh though. Ming has blocked only 103 shots, but Okur has only blocked 35 shots on the season. It’s those short arms…and the fact he isn’t the tallest player in the NBA.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess if you want your center to stand around the 3pt line, he's great.
If you want him to be a center…not so much.
Yao blocks shots because (gasp) he plays near the basket. Somewhere you won’t see Varmet if he can possibly avoid it.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See. That's where I know you don't watch very many NBA games, especially Jazz games.
Okur can take people inside. He also rebounds really well for being supposedly a perimeter player. But it’s okay. We do love that he can go inside or shoot 3s. It makes him more offensively versatile than any other center in the league.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See this is how I know you're on strong meds - the Utah reality disconnect.
I admittedly watch Utah as little as possible. My experience of Varmet is as I describe it.
The problem is, would Utah know a real center if they saw one? I’m thinking back to the glory days, of…of…of.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Eaton maybe? Do you know enough about basketball to know who he is?
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In the dictionary under "Stiff" you find Mark Eaton
That one? With the awesome FT style? Yes. I remember. Our center then was Dream. You were saying?
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying that he manned the paint. He blocked shots and rebounded, like a good center should.
He didn’t need to score because he played wth scorers. He was a pretty good prototypical center. Holds lots of shot blocking records. And if he had remained healthy, we would have won multiple championships. Sorry he wasn’t healthy. Hakeem was fantastic, but he wasn’t the only center to ever be great.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I have a place in my heart for Eaton.
And yes, he was a true center. And God knows, he tried. I remember his “tiger style” rebounding position with affection.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and...
If Eaton was so great… how many rings does he have?
And why can’t I find his name on the list of Hall of Famers?
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rings?
How many rings does Yao see when he looks at that hand?
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Are people from Utah even allowed to make the “rings” joke?
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying...
Yes. Just made it.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
odd
If someone called Utah to ask about the availability of Memo… Utah would listen intently…
if someone called Houston to ask about Yao… Daryl Morey would laugh and hang up.
I know that’s not supported by any statistics, but I can guarantee you Yao is a far more valuable player than Memo.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Team.
It’s only a four letter word in Houston.
Utah is built on the sum of it’s parts not individual players (T-Mac). Maybe a few more pieces would help you advance in the playoffs.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okur is routinely listed as one of the greatest production for value players in the NBA.
Most recently made the top 10 list on Bill Simmons’ value piece. If the Jazz are shopping him so hard, then maybe that is why most Jazz fans would rather have Okur than Boozer at this point. He is pretty valuable.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not $$$ value
Not talking contracts. I am talking pure value to the team.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still applies. We love and need Memo in Utah. Oh, and he has a ring. One more than Yao.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yao loves it when Memo whispers Turkish love sonnetts in his ear.
Seems to inspire him to actually like clear the floor now and again. :)
by RRR on Mar 4, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or when Yao stumps him with a Confucian precept.
The intercultural exchange is awesome. Hey, I’ve got like half the population of Utah posting on me here – I feel like Yao.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. The Jazz always post multiple people on Yao. What? Were you trying to make sense?
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it seems like the population of Provo is all posting here. I feel like I'm constantly getting fouled with no whistle.
That’s what’s Yao like.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Utah?
Don’t have to be from Utah, to like the Jazz. We’re not like Houston. We have a fan base beyond our city limits (although, I don’t think you can actually find Houston city limits… Can you say URBAN SPRAWL?)
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There are only Austin City Limits in Texas.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
With God as my witness, I have never seen anyone wearing a Jazz product outside of Utah, unless they came from Utah. Check out viewership numbers for the Rockets in China. I daresay Houston has a slightly (by say 1 billion) larger fan base.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1 Billion people couldn't be wrong after all.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We were talking fan base.
I mentioned that China>Utah. Maybe you can get some Turks into the picture, but it won’t help.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Turkey, Russia and the Ukraine
Big time Jazz fans
I wonder how may rocket games get any viewership in those countries eh?
by RRR on Mar 4, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Team Matchups
Simple really.
JAZZ > Rockets!
I’ll bet most rocket fans are actually happy that cry boy Mac is out, they actually have a chance to improve.
by RRR on Mar 4, 2009 4:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sad actually.
I’m gonna miss that whiney little bitch
We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com
by CB Jack on Mar 4, 2009 4:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very sad.
We’ll miss all those desperation 3’s while our second unit is on the floor. What else in tonight’s game is going to get me excited for the playoffs?
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, we'd never know about this McGrady stuff if it wasn't for the Beehive state. Thanks!
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your welcome. Actually, I have never seen a website that hates its team members more than here.
At the first of the season it was Head who sucked. Then Alston. And now you guys hate T-Mac so badly. I mean, they are all despicable, but at some point you have to stand by your team. Those are (sniffling), your teammates. Those are (sniffling) your quarterbacks.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey
It’s spelled “You are” or “You’re”.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want to get open the grammar pandora's box davey?
Bloggers should be careful to cast that first stone regarding grammar and spelling…
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
be my guest
Edit away… if you can find something.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From your post on the Toronto game:
“Many have already written the Rockets off, especially tonight because the Jazz are somehow unbeatable at home… yeah, right, whatever.”
There should be a comma after tonight and before because. And I only looked at one post.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude...
If you’re going to try to pick on my grammar, at least be right about it.
or go look at what Lee types. ;-)
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny. I was seeing a post and laughing about all the mistakes, but it wasn't yours.
I must admit, your grammar is better than average. Well done. But you did pick on mine first. (Also smiley face), I just don’t do them.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another one:
“Go Rockets… a win tonight would make me almost as happy as I was when I got news that we traded that Rafer guy.”
Your ellipses (that’s the dots after Rockets) should have 4 dots, since “Go Rockets” is its own sentence, followed by another complete sentence. Three dots should only be used when connecting two incomplete thoughts.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh
And all three are no longer Rockets… which means we were on to something.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, T-Mac is still a Rocket.
Second of all, if you don’t win a championship this year, then you can’t be sure they were the ones holding your team back all this time.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you and I both know
T-Mac is 99% never going to suit up for the Rockets again. Microfracture at his age is not exactly an in-and-out procedure.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if that's the case
Who has been holding Utah back all these years?
Sloan?
Malone?
Stockton?
Larry Miller?
Boozer?
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jordan.
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by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
odd
That didn’t stop Hakeem in 1995.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Umm. The Rockets played the Magic in 1995 in the finals.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who beat the crap out of the Bulls in the playoffs.
People forget this.
In 1994, 1995, we beat who showed up. Can Utah say the same?
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In the last two years, the Jazz have beat who showed up in the first round, regardless of homecourt advantage.
Can Houston say the same? Look. I realize now why Rockets fans hate Utah so much. We own you lately. But the truth is, that we hold no hard feelings against Rocket fans, in general. Maybe you guys should get over your hatred for the Jazz and find someone who really cares, to hate.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's true...
We only think about you when we’re playing you. Looking over the dreamshake tells me, you think of us, and often.
Envy?
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ambivalent fans don't spend so much time trolling the other team's site.
Just saying.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As said...
We think about you when we’re playing you. Have you looked at tonight’s schedule?
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t need to, the Utah troll population climbs here, that’s how I know. There’s always a few JazzTrolls around, with nothing better to do, I guess.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it painful when you run out of clever things to say?
Which happened about 30 posts ago for you.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, in the land of Utah morons, half-wits like me are still King. Sad, but true.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The no hard feelings thing explains all the Utah posting?
As I’ve said before, it’s all history, and Utah has done better recently. We’re aware of this. But overall, I’m pretty happy to take Houston’s history over Utah’s.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you forget
Jordan was retired/suspended from the league for the two years that the Rockets won their championships. So you are right, Jordan did not stop Hakeem in 1995 because he was off sucking ass in the minors.
by Hammy - TBJ on Mar 4, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
odd
I distinctly remember Jordan coming back to play in February 1995.
and even if he didn’t, that’s two years where you don’t have the “Jordan cockblocked us” excuse… instead, it was Hakeem who pwn3d the Jazz those years. Suck it, Utah!
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is...
The spazz get their azz handed to them tonight.
Go ROX!!
Your a ten, but I'm on eleven!
by JakedaSnake on Mar 4, 2009 4:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Careful...
Grungedave is a stickler for grammar and spelling.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I let it slide
He’s speaking in your language so you could understand him.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you guys have your own site? Where every one loves the Jazz and thinks Utah is cool?
Go there.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We like to make Rocket fans cry.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, keep trying then.
Tears of frustration at Jazzy imbecility count, don’t they?
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True blue dat!
Your a ten, but I'm on eleven!
by JakedaSnake on Mar 4, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You'll make a great parent. You can always just send your kids to their room, when they are more clever than you are or their arguments make too much sense.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd never do that to my kids.
But when Utah fans actually are clever or make sense, well, crap, I don’t know what I’ll do then. I’m not worried about it happening, though. Hasn’t yet.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
holy hell
you Jazz fans are lame. “You’ll make a great parent…” lol what a shitty comeback. What next – are you going to call us impolite?
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Xiane tags in Lad.
And goes to be whatever sort of parent these guys imagine me to be…
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good chatting Xiane.
Nice meeting you Xiane. Don’t cry too hard tonight. We’ll see you next time we play.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I've handled the Jazz kiddies for a while.
It’s someone else’s turn – life goes on.
by Xiane on Mar 4, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"Handled the Jazz kiddies"
=r olled over, cried, took my ball and went home.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
some people
have shit to do. Xiane does, I do not.
So let me follow up with this:
The Jazz suck, Utah’s a shithole, Karl Malone’s a rapist, and Deron Williams is the 4th-best point guard in the league
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Xiane was a rocket scientist...
compared to you Lad. This is just getting sad.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just getting started, son
so sit ya bitch ass down and listen to the truth.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some bishop sent us over here. (snicker snicker).
Just to help the site out with some posts and pregame super hype.
Battier praying he lives through this rebound.
So we are just being good sheeple…
by RRR on Mar 4, 2009 5:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he's real scared
of heckle and jeckle there.
The Utah Jazz: where shitty Europeans happen.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
typical jazz fan
homophobic bullshit
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I should give a shit,
why?
I’m no Hornets fan.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
look
I know you like this stuff (and I understand that it’s a product of your environment – Utah being the #1 source for searches for internet gay porn and all), but you’re really only hurting the load time for this page. That’s not very courteous, now is it?
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
Now that Larry Miller is dead, they can finally see Brokeback Mountain!
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
now they’re probably going to show up and get all self-righteous.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Finally just so da lad can get a good nights sleep.
by RRR on Mar 4, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a nice picture
who doesn’t enjoy a good hug?
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the funniest picture I have ever seen. Even if that was a Jazz player, I would laugh hard.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
by clarkpojo on Mar 4, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Dream Shake (grungedave)
You’re welcome. Jazz fans doubled your traffic today and quadrupled your comments.
I’m out for now fellas. Good luck tonight.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man, this is going to be a great night.
by Basketball John on Mar 4, 2009 5:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You ain't kiddin'.
Love it bbj. Keep up the good work.
by boomgoesthedynamite on Mar 4, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna be a bitch
having to grope two keyboards during the game…
by RRR on Mar 4, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know this whole "internet"
thing is new to y’all out in podunk, Utah, but you do realize that you can view two webpages at once, right?
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually.....
Utah was involved in inventing the internet.
U of U was one of the 4 Universities on ARPANET. So… we were connected before anyone in Texas.
by ThePriceisRight on Mar 4, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying
if you want to insult people you should at least know what your talking about.
by ThePriceisRight on Mar 4, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jazz fans
the wet blankets of the NBA
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“Golly gee, guys! You really shouldn’t say that sort of thing!”
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe so...
but YOU weren’t on ARPANET, were you…?
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Inspiration for the coming victory
Prediction:
Yao will cause Jerry Sloan to realize the error of his ways, burst into flame. Artest will burn down SLC, doing the universe a massive favor. He will be awarded the Medal of Honor for his courageous actions
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
good lord, man
learn to fucking spell.
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please... Don't feed the trolls
At least 2/3’s of the comments here are people responding to boomgoesthedynamyte.
Just saying
by jack_ on Mar 4, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I should have known
After my Billy Madison principal quote… I knew we might be in trouble.
I do feel dumber for having ‘chatted’ with Jazz fans for the last hour or so.
by grungedave on Mar 4, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I feel dumber for just reading through all that garbage. Yikes.
We’ll make sure the TBJ fans are here come game time.
As a Jazz fan, some of those rationalizations were “reaching” at best. My head is still spinning. I think I just read about Mark Eaton? Or I was dreaming.
Anywho. Tonight is gonna be a great game. Jazz better come prepared with the Rockets at full strength (sans McTeary).
Dave, I think you just let Jazz fans get under your skin. How does that make you feel?
We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com
by CB Jack on Mar 4, 2009 6:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dave, I think you just let Jazz fans get under your skin
Well, y’all do resemble a fungus…
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you even arguing
who gives a shit this is all that matters right now loss or not for the rockets
Team: Record: Home Game: Road Game: Standing:
Rockets 39-22 25-6 14-16 3rd
Jazz 37-23 26-6 11-17 7th
Stats speak themself
J'ed
by Rockets on Mar 4, 2009 7:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
150 comments?
We’re turning into Blazer’s Edge!
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
by Tom Martin on Mar 4, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
no
we’d need to be obnoxious towards opposing fans and have a weird hard-on for our GM to pull that one off.
Wait…. I think we’ve got the second one down already. We just need a little help on the first. Fortunately, our friends from SLC Dunk are helping us out a lot on that one!
by Only_A_Lad on Mar 4, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OPEN GAME THREAD IS UP
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
by Tom Martin on Mar 4, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just read all of that
I thouroughly enjoyed that. Thought the Jazz fans kept it clean and actually made me laugh a few times. I hate the Jazz, but overall they really do have great fans, we can’t argue that
www.TheDreamShake.com Co-Founder and Writer
by UofTOrange on Mar 5, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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