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One reason the Rockets will win in 6: The law of averages

Everyone knows the Rockets have not won a playoff series since the Hakeem era.  Everyone also knows that this includes seven (7) straight first-round flame-outs.  Much of that with Yao Ming on the team, and a healthy amount of that with Tracy McGrady on the team.

That said, the Rockets are going to win this series in 6 games.  Why?

This:

You see, Brandon Roy is good.  Really good.  But it took a miracle freakin' shot to keep the Rockets from sweeping the Blazers in the regular season.  As it stands, the Rockets still beat Portland 2-1 in the season series.

So, yes, the law of averages is in the Rockets' favor in numerous categories.

Sorry Blazer fans.

And thankfully, no more of this for the Rockets.  Ever again.

Go Rockets!

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Yao had to hit a miracle shot to get them ahead in that game too. You can’t ignore what happens just a second before Brandon’s shot.

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by fulcrum89 on Apr 17, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not such a miracle – I’ve seen Yao make one of those in nearly every game. That fade away from the baseline was a Hakeem staple that I’m glad to see Yao add to his arsenal. It’s a normal move, a normal play, not a miracle heave. That’s the difference.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And thankfully, no more of this for the Rockets. Ever again.

Why? Tmac retiring or something? O_o

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by xFenixKnightx on Apr 17, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed in that it took that sweet, sweet miracle to win that game

But this Portland team has grown tremendously this year. When you have 3 rookies with significant roles on the team surrounded by a group of other young players, that’s what is going to happen. There are so many examples of things that we worried about even at mid-season that are simply not a concern anymore. It’s surprised nearly all of us. Consider:

Batum has turned into a fantastic defender. Compare his performance against individuals from early in the year to later games. IE: the performances against Kevin Durant were night and day. He frustrated the hell out of Melo, even while battling the flu.

Outlaw has taken the biggest step of his career. He’s playing much better defense, going to the hoop instead of just taking jump shots…basically the argument that he hurts us as much as he helps has nearly vanished from our message boards. That’s saying something.

Rodriguez. Solidly claimed his position as backup point guard. I used to hate on this guy… I was wrong.

Rudy: Rudy’s always been amazing, but now he’s amazing AND knows how to play with his team.

Oden: Coming off the bench has been great for him, and he’s a matchup nightmare.

LaMarcus: The dude has straight stepped up his game and become what we all knew he could be. Shed the soft label.

Sorry, but that team that barely eked out a win has grown up.

"Estos tíos están locos"- Rudy Fernandez

by cafe_civet on Apr 17, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That said, I'm still worried. It's a poor matchup

If we didn’t have home court, I’d pick Houston. I just think the growth of this team makes the narrow margin of victory in that early game a moo* point.

*It’s like a cow’s opinion; it doesn’t matter

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by cafe_civet on Apr 17, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

This Portland team is a lot better now. But so is Houston. We went from having an unsettled lineup with the ghost of Tmac in it to finding several new and valuable guys. You really won’t understand how good those guys are (Wafer, Lowry, etc) until you see them for a while.

Honestly, this should be a fantastic series, but right now, today, I think Houston has a little more and will win it.

I’ve said all year that the best benches in the NBA were: LA, BOS, HOU, PDX – SA would qualify but their bench basically started all year.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really won’t understand how good those guys are (Wafer, Lowry, etc) until you see them for a while.

Wafer was a Blazer. Not for long, but we did see him somewhat.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I think he's good

but a step below Rudy in shooting efficiency.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wafer's blazers' stint

was nothing like his Rockets stint. Wafer averaged 8 min in 8 games for the blazers last year. Wafer average 19.4 min in 63 games for the rockets this year. When a young player is playing sporadically like he did for the blazers its totally different than when he has a defined role on a team. You didnt see the Wafer that is today’s Wafer.

And id have to disagree about the step below Rudy in shooting efficiency.

Wafer in 08-09: 9.7 ppg, .447 fg%, .390 3pt%, 19.4 min
Rudy in 08-09: 10.4 ppg, .425 fg%, .399 3pt%, 25.6 min

Wafer averaged .5 points per min while rudy averaged .4 points per minute. Wafer also had a better shooting percentage so i dont really see how you see rudy as more efficient

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

look at true shooting percentage

Rudy is ahead, 58% to 54%, I believe. Those numbers could be a little off, it’s from memory. Rudy’s PER is also a point higher.

Also, Rudy’s three point shooting is impressive because of the volume. His numbers shooting this year most resemble Reggie Miller, discovered by Kevin Pelton of basketball-prospectus.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True shooting percentage

takes free throw % into account. So with free throws yeah rudy is maybe a little better, but in game play shooting wafer is better.

And rudys 3pt% is pretty remarkable especially because he set an nba record for 3s by a rookie this year if i heard correctly on sportscenter last night.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is a 99% similarity comparison for Reggie Miller at age 23

per Kevin Pelton. Shooting 40% from three while making 159 is ridiculous efficiency.

The point of shooting efficiency is to measure how well a player produces points. Rudy draws more foul shots, thus making him a more efficient scoring option. Regardless of Wafer’s higher field goal percentage, Rudy’s better three point shooting (by volume) and increased free throw attempts make him a better offensive option.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See my Wafer comments below.

Some guys work better in different environments. Raja Bell was briefly a Rocket before becoming a valuable starter in PHX. Just because Houston couldn’t use him properly didn’t mean he wasn’t a legit NBA guy in the right system.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even with Wafer's improvement

he’s still one step behind Rudy, who will be his counterpart in the series.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure,

But what did you pay to get Rudy? Wafer was essentially free.

From a series standpoint, I think we can defend Rudy – in fact I think we can defend any Blazer except Roy, and we can slow him down. Maybe it will work the way you say with rotations, but I doubt it.

By the way, I like Rudy, and as a whole I think Portland has a huge amount of talent. If it all comes together, it will be very tough for Houston to win it. I think, based on what I’ve seen, that Houston will win it based largely on defense and the fact that no one on Portland can stop Yao without fouling out.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We paid 3 million for Rudy

and are paying him roughly a million each year for the next four years. That’s 1.75 million per year, very worth it. Pretty much free.

The thing about Rudy is that he runs off of picks, without the ball. He is actually the player that brought Portland back in the first Houston game. He gave Artest fits, literally running in circles. I rewatched the game recently… he was actually running in circles. Very funny to watch. McMillan probably told him to tire Artest out.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It cost us Zack Randolph in the long run.

Oh, wait, that was gaining a positive asset. My bad.

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by T Darkstar on Apr 17, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's an excellent exchange

Z Randolph for R Fernandez is an excellent exchange.

Make no mistake, I like him a ton, and if you tire of him, or Bayless, let us know.

by Xiane on Apr 18, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pryzbilla caused yao to have a poor offensive game

but if you look at plus minus yao still had a huge effect

Yao’s +/- in the first game: +16
Pryzbilla’s +/- in 1st game: -13

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way

fun having intersite conversation. I’m so glad you guys aren’t like Nugget fans.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers will play 4 games at home...

…vs 3 for the Rockets. The home team has won every game. The “law of averages” says the Blazers will win series. :P

by shocker315 on Apr 17, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's hard for me to accept that argument

In a vacuum, maybe… but the Blazers have gone from a team with a defensive efficiency at around twenty, to thirteenth in the league. Since Oden has come off the bench, in the last fifteen games, the Blazers have been the fourth best defensive team in the league.

So, McGrady going for 16 or 18 points or whatever it was in the November matchup meant nothing? He was on fire, your best offensive option.

I’m also so tired of the season series argument. Both teams defended home court. If there were four games played, a true season series winner could be named… but defending home court is expected.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

McGrady went for 30

and please stop making the argument about the growth of the blazers. Both teams have grown tremendously this season. Blazers have three rookies yeah yeah yeah…the rockets have wafer who is like a rookie, lowry who is new to the team and no mcgrady so our defense is better. Plus having three rookies isnt a good thing inthe playoffs so i dont know why yall blazers fans are excited about that

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Statistically

the Blazers have grown as much as any team in the league, and I still think that not having McGrady hurts you. He was the only Rocket able to consistently score in Portland.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youre right about mcgrady

the rockets will miss him, but the rockets will not miss this years mcgrady. This years rockets team is better without an injured mcgrady but i dont know anybody who would argue that the rockets are better without a healthy mcgrady.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point I was making

is that the only time Houston played Portland in Portland, it was a close game, and McGrady played extremely well. He scored over twenty points in the second half, sinking a bunch of shots in a row at one point.

But yeah, with a hurt McGrady, the Rockets are better off without him.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

point taken

but the rockets didnt have wafer or battier or lowry in that game who together can provide better team offense for the rockets than mcgrady and definately provide better defense than t-mac.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGrady went for thirty and was on fire

he is better on offense than Battier and Lowry, but hurt the team defense. The Rockets are not better on offense with Lowry and Battier than McGrady.

the Blazers were on a back to back from Utah, McGrady went for 30, Oden didn’t play, and the Blazers are the hottest team in the league.

My main point is that conditions are not the same as they were on November 6th.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree.

What I do think is that if history is any guide Houston’s more defense oriented style will win out. Oden may be a wild card – but we’ll see. People think Howard would dominate Yao, but the precise opposite is true. We don’t know if the same will hold true with Oden, but I suspect Yao fouls him out in about 10 minutes.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

Oden has picked up about 5-10% of his fouls on man-to-man defense this year. Almost every foul has been on penetration… but Yao is a different beast. It’s not like Oden fouls every guy who posts up, though. He does well against Bynum.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and when Yao sits

is when I think Oden could make a big difference. He really does punish PFs posing as Cs. Plus with Yao not being able to play big minutes (i.e. 40+), Oden against PFs could be 8 – 14 min a game.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

The young Mr Oden can have the unique pleasure of banging around with Mr. Mutombo while Yao sits. It should be very educational.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahh

AARP member Deke versus the could pass for AARP member Oden. With the way adelman trims his bench, no way Deke wheels it out there for than spot duty. Plus, lets be honest, Deke does not have it anymore.

Love Deke’s charitable work, he is not a bball player anymore.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youve got to be kidding me

please just look at deke’s stats this season when he started. Im not saying he is still a starter in the nba but he can still play, dont put that past him

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as a hoya I love Deke

it was wonderful to see that he could still occasionally put it together ala against the GSWs. But outside of that game, all he can do now is get an occasional block. He just clogs the middle on your offense and will not give you many o-rebounds. I think you would be better off just doubling oden and forcing him to make quick desicions with the bball, which has yet to prove he can do.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see.

Deke can bring it for about 10-20 minutes a game, and he’s been resting for the playoffs all year. (Or at least I hope that’s what that was.) That’s all he’ll need on Oden. Oden will probably waste a foul or two on him as well, making life that much easier for Yao.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 1

If the Rox are to win this series then punching portland in the mouth in game 1 with a solid win is a must. If we come back to Houston down 0-2 then in my eyes the series is as good as over. It’s time for our young bench to get their game faces on because the boys are going to need every ounce of help they can muster to win this series.

I’m inclined to agree with Dave, Rox in 6.

It should be a great series regardless of the outcome.

by Texan_Dawg on Apr 17, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

i agree totally. i think the blazers are a little too overconfident about home court advantage. sometimes it’ll make a team feel like they already won the series but it doesn’t guarantee anything. i think if the rockets come out focused enough then they can pull out game 1.

by serg303 on Apr 17, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PDX in 7

Love the rockets, shame the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the conference have to play in the first round.

Blazers traded for Von wafer, they knew he was decent when he gets minutes. But he is not as good as Rudy or Outlaw or Oden, which is why he was not re-signed. And he is argubaly your best bench player, so Portland has the advantage there.

As far the previous games, the only one that matters was the most recent one when both teams were had the players that will be playing in this series (e.g. Oden and no KneeMac). Houston rolled the Blazers, so the Rockets have to be confident at home.

But it will all come down to LMA. If he consistently scores in the paint, which he has been doing post all-star break against just about everybody, then Houston just does not have enough offensive fire power, espcially if they keep forgetting to get the ball to Yao in the 4th quarter.

I think this will be fantastic series, but PDX has the HCA and more weapons. Portland in 7, and Rockets are left figuring out whether they should keep Artest.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll disagree there.

Wafer was floating around, and not getting minutes. Portland drafted and traded for some guys with better pedigrees, and who offered something you didn’t have. You don’t really need Wafer if you have Roy, if you follow.

He’s not the guy who didn’t get PT in Portland. He can score and dunk on anyone. He’s streaky, young and undisciplined, but that’s the worst you can say, and he’s growing into being a mature player before our eyes. He’s a legit NBA player – scorer off the bench, or mainstay remains to be seen.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wafer is solid

and he is who we thought he was. He is athletic and high energy and a great off-guard coming off the bench. But if McGrady was healthy he would not be playing either. He is not better than Rudy and frankly he was not better than James Jones who could shoot the lights out.

Don’t get me wrong, I think he is a very solid player, but I think you are wearing Rocket colored glasses when looking at him, kinda of like Blazer fans who would not trade Oden for Durant right now.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I’m really not. I’d rather have Rudy too. I just don’t think he’s as big an edge as you think he is.

I thought my assessment above was pretty clear-eyed “streaky, undisciplined” which could also describe Rudy, btw.

I’ll stand by “score on anyone” because I’ve seen it. Is he a bench guy? If TMac is healthy, of course, and he’s one now, too. Battier will likely start at SG.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy is actually pretty disciplined

best guy on the team at feeding the post. He’s probably one of the best passers on the team.

If Wafer is going off, I expect McMillan to stick Batum on him. Batum has been really good against the small shooting guards, like Ben Gordon and Eric Gordon.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I’ve watched Portland for personal enjoyment a couple of times this year.

Rudy seems to be Jeckyll and Hyde. Often, he’s as you describe. I’ve also watched him get badly out of control and sort of emotional. Do you disagree?

I know we liked Batum, too, but Artest more – given that Houston needs to win now. Can Batum really stick with a fast smaller guard? I know he’s quick for his size, and tall, but I’d think he’d be good on shooters, but toasted off the dribble by a very quick guard.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batum has effectively guarded Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Ben Gordon, Carmelo Anthony, and Kobe (9-24 shooting). He is pretty versatile.

Rudy is streaky in a different sense. He had a really hot two months, then was cold for a few months. He’s back to being hot right now. He’s streaky month by month, not game by game.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Too bad for us he’s not a Rocket then. I was pretty excited by the initial draft of him, only worrying that he was too Euro soft, but was probably young enough to grow out of it.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His main negative was that he was soft

but there hasn’t been any evidence of that in Portland. He’s pesky. Kobe and Melo both lost it, elbowing him up high. Artest will probably do the same.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is really a mutual admiration society for me. I see Portland and think I see an eventual NBA champ.

It would be nice to have some of those early picks like Portland has had. We’ve been killing ourselves by making the playoffs every damn year, but not going deep enough. The fact that Houston has added so much talent with terrible picks and very little cap room is nothing short of amazing.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally agree

Morey and Pritchard are two of the best GMs in basketball… and coincidentally, two of the most stat-obsessed guys… hmmm…

Houston and Portland are two of the top six teams in the league. It sucks that they have to meet in the first round.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am willing to call it a draw on Von Rudy

Like I said Von is solid, but he is only really done it for last couple months. Rudy is a bench guy too as long as Roy is around.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is no one talking about Outlaw?

He was in the top 5 for 6th man of the year. He’s third in scoring on our team. He’s streaky on D, he can be good or bad, but he seems to have become more consistently focused. He’s clutch and has become a lot better at taking mostly good shots over the course of the year. Who on the Rockets bench compares to Outlaw?

by KitIsh on Apr 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all a question...

How do you know that outlaw finished top 5 for 6th man of the year if the results havent been released?? Do you have insider information or something??

And youre right nobody on the rockets bench compares to outlaw and he has hurt the rockets this season, but who on the blazers bench compares to landry? Who on the blazers bench compares to lowry? Rodriguez isnt big or strong enough to keep lowry out of the paint. Each team has players who dont match up with other players, we were just talking about rudy and von cause they compare well to each other

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

About that last game...

Landry didnt play in that game so thats another plus to houston if you say thats the only game that matters. Also, LMA had 22 and 9 against houston in the last game and came out on fire but then the rockets were able to slow him down, without landry who is probably the best defender for LMA. Aldridge will get his points but what will matter is artest and battier’s defense on roy because if roy is held in check the blazers dont have enough offensive firepower against the rockets half court d

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From a Blazer perspective

Landry is not the kind of PF LMA struggles against. He has much more trouble against the Scola types.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may be true

but landry is a better defender than scola, and for the rockets its better to have landry on lma than scola

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

but I am much more scared of Scola than Landry. Landry, we can handle. Short PFs struggle against Portland rebounding, as we have a lot of tall, long-armed players. (See Millsap’s stats in the last few Utah-Portland games).

Landry is a good player, though. Scola is just the type of guy that gives Portland fits.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck Hayes

Hayes is going to see a lot of time. LMA is going to hate that.

by grungedave on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fine with Hayes playign

because we know Hayes isn’t a dominant offensive player. I expect the PF to be close to even. If Hayes shuts down LMA, and Hayes doesn’t score, that’s pretty much a wash I guess. The Blazers can then double off of Hayes’ man and get Yao in the post. Yao is a pretty good interior passer, though.

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by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True about Roy

but you cant ever say the blazers dont have enough offensive firepower. We are one of the most efficient offensive teams in the NBA. Our bench lit up Denvers starters for 70 last game.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh stop it blazers fans

you cant keep saying that yall were unfocused last time you visited Toyota center and then backup one of your statements with how you played against denver, because denver was def unfocused

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are right about Landry

I did forget he did not play in the last game, but agree with Cab that Scola is more important. Btw, I think Scola is criminally underated, and the SAS should be given more shit for letting him go.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

trust me

Houston gives san antonio plenty of shit for letting us grab him from them

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank god

I cannot wait for the SAS to breakdown and ride at the back of the bus for a change. The memorial day miracle still gives me hives.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also 22 and 9 is ok

But LMA can do more, plus I thought LMA got most of points on pick and pops in that game. I think if he needs to score in the post or by running the floorr. In all candor Roy played the worst games I have seen him play against HOU, primarily because he was going into the teeth of some tough D. My point was if Roy is held to what he did in the prior games, it really will comes down to whether LMA can outplay his your PFs better than Yao can outplay our Cs.

In my mind Landry = Frey. If either team is relying on Landry or Frey to put them over the top in this series, then that team is probably going to lose. Having watched Adelman refuse to play Cliff Robinson and Danny Ainge to spell Terry Porter and Buck Williams and Clyde, we all know he will shrink his bench to about 7 or 8 players. So I only think Lowry, Hayes and Von get off the bench. Landry will only get about 2 min a game, depending on foul trouble.

by bunk moreland on Apr 17, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scola will kill LMA

The star players on both teams will get their. What will decide the series is the play of Scola. I look forward to watching him have a big series.

by imshabz on Apr 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave on BEdge does a great analysis of opposing teams strenghts/weaknesses, what does this site do?

“we won the season series 2-1*, neener neener neener!”

  • is there because each team won at home and now the situation reverses in the playoffs.

And really? do you keep going back to that because there is simply no other good argument you can think up?

Maybe you’re just afraid that in the playoffs, teams scout each other out and take away the 1st and 2nd options and that scares you. Without Artest/Yao, what do you have? Von Wafer who couldn’t sniff the court in Portland? I’ll take my chances with our 10 weapons—i mean Frye might even start if he were on your team..and thats sad.

So come on. At least make some good arguments: i.e. Blazers are green. Blazers are a bunch of rooks. Roy has trouble with Artest’s physicality. Oden will be neutralized by the bigger Yao and get into earlier foul trouble because of his star status. LMA has thus far been pretty ineffective. PG is a weak spot for BOTH teams.

Something. Just not this crap about the season series. Especially when you call out the best closing team in the NBA for doing just that and don’t recognize the tear we’ve been on lately or that WE DIDNT TRY HARD in the last meeting because we had clinched the playoffs just before the game.

Give me a break.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently * == a bullet point.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

Because the other Dave spent 5,000 words that makes his argument better?

Thomas Jefferson once said that brevity is the soul of wit. I like my analysis better.

by grungedave on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with grunge

there comes a point when everything is overanalyzed. Sometimes its best to keep it simple and look at how the teams played against each other. And if the blazers led the season series 2-1 yall would be doing the same exact thing

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your "argument" if you can call it that was not only shorter but flawed

as everyone has pointed out. why don’t you just say “rockets in 6 because theyr’e better woohoo!” ?

the shorter the better right?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So your arguments are:

1)You won the season series 2-1, defending homecourt in the regular season and almost winning in Portland in November (over 5 months ago) when Tmac went for 30.
2)The law of averages
3)Clyde Drexler won a championship with Houston

Bedge Dave did an analysis of the teams, which is different from posting a fact (#1), or a barely applicable “law” (#2). I am tired of Rockets fans leaning on the crutch of a 2-1 season series. That’s like an Oden looks old joke, come up with something new and applicable.

by KitIsh on Apr 17, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if your tired of rockets fans

leaning on that then STOP COMING TO THE ROCKETS BLOG!!! It sounds like a pretty simple answer to me. And i dont think we have been leaning on that, yeah weve talked about it, but thats because it matters. Blazers fans have been leaning on the fact that yall have grown this season and yall are playing really well right now. GET OVER IT. Both teams have grown and both teams are playing really well. Im sick of blazers fans coming to the rockets blog and leaning on the same things the whole time

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

again apples to apples. i compared it to dave's analysis not to the comments in his analysis.

what else you want from blazer fans? we’ve talked about our point differential, our home court record, our power rankings status, roys amazingness, what else you want?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm what about matchups maybe,

but i gues since yall know you will lose most of those you dont want to talk about it. Also, arguing that you will win the series based on power rankings is the worst argument known to mankind. Power rankings are opinions by other people and have bearing on the actual game.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do want to talk about it.

but most of all arguments made by rockets fans haven’t mentioned that.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and please, tell me where I shoudl go then to hear the rockets side of things if I dont come here?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you go to school, grungedave?

William Shakespeare - not Thomas Jefferson - wrote the comment about Brevity being the soul of wit. Everybody keep their analysis, they prove nothing. Too many blowhards.

Let’s tip-off a truly great series.

by pusster1 on Apr 17, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry dude

I was drinking… chill.

by grungedave on Apr 18, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

I knew it wasn’t Jefferson the moment I hit “post”, but… whatever… it doesn’t change the point.

by grungedave on Apr 18, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and this both teams have grown bullshit

The Blazers adjusted to playing without their injured SF from the beginning of the year and have worked on incorporating Batum, Rudy, and Oden. They are improved because they are gelling.

The Rockets change? Lose TMac for the season and trade away the starting PG. This is about even to you? Seriously?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously.

There is a long rich history of hatred for our “Starting PG” here. We’ve missed him a couple of times this year, when playing bigger PGs. That’s it. We’ve not missed his weird heaves with 18 seconds on the clocks, and his inability to finish at the rim. At Alston’s age it was pretty clear he would never change. In one year Lowry is going to make that trade look like a terrible necessity for ORL and yet another mistake in Memphis.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's fine for Memphis

they have Conley, and managed to get a first round pick for Lowry.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No first from us.

Lowry is arguably a better player than Conley cost us was a guy we were glad to be rid of.

It’s like trading a 72 Pinto for the supermodel of your choice. What’s the downside?

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

my point was that it was bad for Orlando, not for Memphis.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on!!!

We traded away Rafor Alston of all people for a point guard that can do the same things but better. If you combine the averages of the two point gaurds right now, you would see that they actually rank among the top of the league. And TMac was actually holding us back. If he was healthy, that would be great but he wasn’t and that the offense stagnant because we relied on him so much. You can look at our record and see that we played better without him. I don’t care how much the Blazers have grown, they are just in a bad match up with the Rockets. THE ROCKETS IN 6!!!

by imshabz on Apr 17, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rockets in 6

i dont care what excuses you blazer fans have of winning this series the rockets are gonna take it in six…and if you need proof just look at the last game between the two. that was pretty much a playoff game and we won by 14 pts and that was without landry. yao is gonna kill oden in the paint….the only way portland can win this series is by making sure yao never touches the ball and i dont see that happening in 4 out of 7 games….GO ROCKETS!!!

by imshabz on Apr 17, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is proof that no child left behind is a failure

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yao will crumble in front of the eyes of billions

The Hong Kong Rockets will feel the scintillating wrath of Rip City!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by ripcityson on Apr 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA

I love it that you are so passionate. But you and I both know that the blazers do not match up well with the rockets. Ill say it again: THE ROCKETS IN SIX!!!!

by imshabz on Apr 17, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Blazer's Big Men

Something Blazer fans might not know, Yao does great against big tall powerful centers. Throw Shaq or Howard on Yao and he wil pull 25 points, throw Okur on Yao and he fouls out in the fourth with 8.

Also, Wafer = most improved player of the year. If you could see video of Wafer from pre-season compared to today, you would think 2-3 years had passed. I can’t imagine how much he sucked at Portland if when we got him he wasn’t ever supposed to make the team. Be prepared for Wafer to slash to the basket. I am not sure how fast Roy is because you will need some powerful speed to slow him down.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yao was pretty bad against Przybilla

in his first game, he had 13 and 6. In the second game, he had 15 and 8, with five turnovers.

Batum would guard Wafer if he gets hot.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What game are you looking at?

April 5th, 2009 Rockets 102 Portland 88
Yao went for 21 points, 12 rebounds, and 1 turnover.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is the third game

he did very well, but is batting .333.

Yao has the ability to be awesome. I was just pointing out that Przybilla had gotten the best of him a few times.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But on a series.

In a series, Yao will eat Pryzbilla alive. You better have Aldridge help out cause if you think your big guy can 1 v 1 Yao, you are in trouble.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aldridge did well fronting Yao in the second game

it’s how we rallied from fifteen down to two down in the fourth quarter.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classic Rockets

That is classic Rockets to just tank it in the 4th. Especially when Artest “thinks” he has a hot hand.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is freaky

does he normally come off of screens and fire up off-balance threes, or is that just when I watch?

I think he really is clinically insane.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what happened to your history logic rocket fans?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you even read the preview at blazersedge?

plan B is to put a PF on Yao and outrun him, which will work. Yao is a semi truck with a civic engine.

by appel82 on Apr 18, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

I’m a Porland fan but if Houston were to play like they did last time at home against the blazers for the whole series, ie play hard defense, and the pound they ball into Yao, they will win.
But.. even the biggest Houston homer has to admit the Rockets forget they have yao from time to time; and with Artest you never know. That, and the home court shifts the advantage to Portland. Not a big advantage, but advantage to Portland never the less.

As i said straight up, first game, Houston will have the advantage, but over the course of a seven games series, with four at home, the intangibles shift to Portland. Portland just has more options to go to.

by MotoMan045 on Apr 17, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This series is going to be interesting.

And it’s unfortunate as well. We should have beaten Dallas, or not dropped games to East weaklings, and this never would have happened.

I’m a Houston fan, but you can see from my posts that I admire Portland a great deal – and trust me – I don’t admire many other teams. I honestly think Houston’s D will be the deciding factor in the playoffs and that we’ll win the series.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

take away last 3 words and feelings mutual

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a retarded post Rocket fans

The teams played 3 times, you guys got 2 of them on your home court. Each team won their home games. According to THAT law of average or whatever the hell you call it, Portland will win the series 4 to 3. That makes a lot more sense, doesn’t it?

by Cvd2312 on Apr 17, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

McGrady doesn't count

The fact that we had McGrady on the loss makes the entire game a moot point to me.
Following the Rockets all year, the tempo of the game would change every time he was on the floor. Since losing McGrady our development has been comparable to Portland’s, I just think the x-factor will be how Portland defends Yao.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sooooooooooo we only count wins now and make exceptions for our losses. riiight

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We only count the actual team.

Who beat who is what counts.
Nearly half the points in that loss don’t even play for the Rockets. I compare the most recent game as those are the guys that will be playing each other.

Plus, the fact that we aren’t playing in Salt Lake City, is a huge moral boost for the Rockets.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've defended him as well as any team in the league, I'd venture to guess

25, 18, 13 with 12, 8, and 6? I’ll take that production from Yao.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Order counts.

Throughout the season, from 1st game to last game, those numbers were actually:
13, 18, 25 with 6, 8, and 12. By your reasoning, your defense is getting worse and worse, so Yao is due several 30 point games in the series.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, we played at home the first game

and Przybilla was in foul trouble the third. My point is that Przybilla has guarded Yao decently two out of three times.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes pryzbilla guarded yao alright in the first game

but mcrady also took 23 shots and took away from yao. since mcgrady left the rockets offense has become more balanced and thus you see the better production from yao

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's possible

but Przybilla did hold Yao to a 42% field goal percentage. My original point was that Przybilla is not a dream scenario for Yao to play against.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

42% for the season matchups or for that one game??

Cause you cant look at the shooting percent for one game and apply it to the entire season. maybe yao had an off night, maybe he wasnt feeling well.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by entire season

im meant entire series*

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmkay then lets look at it game by game

Game 1 in portland: Yao 4/13…pryzbilla played but oden didnt
Game 2 in houston: Yao 6/15…pryzbilla played but oden didnt
Game 3 in houston: Yao 6/10…Pryzbilla played and oden played too

So based on that you should hope that oden doesnt play cause something about hiim playing cause yao to have a good game.

Yes maybe pryzbilla can play well against yao, but pryzbilla isnt gonna play the whole game against yao.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cvd its like the lakers fans who said they would be happy to play us

they argued “the blazers have won 8 in a row in portland so odds say they’re due to lose one of the next few!!!”

riiiight.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Continued from above.

Hit enter to fast.

The scary thing we have is Artest. If Portland lets him shoot all night long, he won’t feed it to Yao, and we will lose. Adelman controling Artest will lead to victory for Houston.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Artest is your x factor. agreed.

if he plays within the offense and plays hard defense, we’re in trouble. If Roy gets the best of him/he gets frustrated-its another game.

For the Blazers, same goes for Aldridge. He needs to be aggressive attacking the basket & pulling boards like he has been this last month.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think this series is as close to 50/50 as it gets.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Artest

Artest is a passionate player and can go crazy at times, but I think he has grown up alot and he will control himself. Although I have to admit we can never know when it will happen but in a 7 game series he should be fine.

by imshabz on Apr 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's personally been under control all year - jolly even.

The problem is his shooting tends to get out of control. He needs to sit then, but you don’t want to lose his D, so what do you do? Not pass him the ball. But I think he’s frightened Brooks into passing to him no matter what. Lowry, maybe not.

by Xiane on Apr 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Motivate him to drive is key.

Artest is probably the strongest if not top 3 strongest players in the NBA. Getting him to drive, crash into your big men, and finish will be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than him shooting. Only problem is like the previous guy said, he goes crazy and thinks he is a 3point shooter.

by texasag on Apr 17, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oden-Howard-LeBron-Shaq

I’d give them the strength advantage.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well duh those guys are stronger than artest

but thats because they are much bigger than him, three are centers and one is LeBron. I think the point texasag was trying to make is that pound for pound artest is one of the strongest in the nba. Portland doesnt have a player who can guard ron. Batum is too skinny, roy is too skinny, and rudy is too skinny also. If artest can control his dribbling and outside shots the rockets will win this series

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

The only guy Im SURE is stronger is Shaq. Howard probably is. LeBron and Oden, I wouldn’t bet on it. As LeBron learned that day he got utterly shut down in Houston, he cant push Ron Ron around. Oden? I have no idea. I haven’t seen him enough to know much of anything about him really.

by Xiane on Apr 18, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIGHT

Blazers in 6.

Granted, you will get slew of homer calls, and Yao will cry his way into a few fouls he shouldn’t get. It’s not a matter of IF Ron Artest goes insane and starts putting up bad jumpshots only a streetballer would consider high percentage, it’s WHEN. Sure, Aaron Brooks creates problems because that friggen june bug so fast, and Von Wafer has the “I couldn’t get off the Portland Bench when I was there” can of Pringles on his shoulder that I’m sure he’ll be dipping into for motivation every time he touches the ball, but that’s about it.

You can’t double B Roy in the 4th when Ron Ron gets tired without leaving Rudy or Blake open for 3. You can’t stop Aldridge from 15-18 feet, nor in transition. You can’t stop us. Portland has been chewing through teams in the past month, and although you have the season advantage over them, you can’t deny they have been playing much better in the last month than at any point prior in the year. It’s all going to come down to half court execution and who’s got the most horses in the stable. I think the Portland bench will outlast you, and I think the home court will play into our favor.

Golly Gee, I sure hope I didn't huwt anybody's feewings.... sniff...sniff....

GO G.O. ! You've got a calcium supplement endorsement waiting for you!

by SuperDave on Apr 17, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Also— I think the fatigue factor hasn’t been mentioned enough concerning this series. After the 3rd game there isn’t much recovery time between games. That’s bad for Yao and good for a younger, fresher Blazer team. The longer this series goes, the worse the chances are for the Rockets to move on.

by stax o' wax on Apr 17, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You made some horrible arguments SuperDave

Ron Ron wont get tired guarding Roy because Battier and Ron Ron are going to switch like they did against Bron. You cant stop scola from 15-18 feet. Yeah we might not be able to stop your transition but too bad for yall you are the slowest team inthe nba. Houston too has been playing much better in the last month than in the rest of the season. And if you think its gonna come down to half court execution then the rockets will win because the rockets have the best half court in the west. And another thing…you cant stop YAO

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant half court defense*

in the last sentence. And stax, what makes you think the blazers are gonna be fresher, they have the same schedule as the rockets. The rockets arent that old. Mutombo brings up the average age of the whole team by alot.

If you take Deke and t-mac away from the rockets and Raef and Webster away from the blazers, the average ages are:

Rockets: 25.38
Blazers: 24.46

Thats not a huge difference and if youre trying to say it will affect yao, it will affect pryzbilla too.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

take Ruffin away

and that changes things as well.

Actually, the best way to calculate age is to weight by playing time. Though the Rockets have a lot of young talent, Yao, Artest, Battier, and Scola are all much older than the Blazer core.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 17, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes they are older

but not old. And they are still nba caliber athletes. I really dont think youth is going to be a big factor but i guess we shall see. And with youth comes nerves too

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

i believe the blazers have the best record in games decided by 3 or less points if i remember correctly..

how many clutch finishes have we had? remember that one vs you guys?

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

playoffs and the regular season are different animals

im not saying yall are going to win or lose the series based on youth, but i think that your youth could hurt yall in houston or in a pressure packed situation at home

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was that 1...

…the Orlando game at home? That was a hard pill to swallow. If Houston fans think Roy’s heave was lucky, I wonder what they think about Turkoglu’s late night trip to the bank.

I imagine they don’t care, since it didn’t affect the Rockets’ record in any way.

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21... I know...

by FibonacciSequence on Apr 18, 2009 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The slowest team in the league....

With the best offensive effieciency in the league—and that’s impressive. Sure the blazers have fewest possessions then most of the league per game, but that stat is misleading because it doesn’t factor in offensive rebounds which their average is 13 per game. Add that onto average the # of possessions which is 89 and you have 102 possessions per game. I think that’s pretty good.

by jenstcy on Apr 17, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way....

Blazers are # 1 in offensive rebounding. I don’t understand why Houston wouldn’t be up there with Yao being flippin’ 10 ft tall!!!

by jenstcy on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because offensive rebounding is about athleticism

and yao is not athletic. To grab an offensive rebound you must be able to go get the ball, yao is not quick and its pretty difficult for him to go run down a ball.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rockets will win!!!

I like the blazers alot and same for the Rockets…. but the rockets basically have an all around better team than the young blazers have..Rickets will win in game 6. Blazers will have a better playoff chance next year when the team matures and they find a more stable center other than grandpa Greg.

by rockets_girl on Apr 17, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Say what you want about the Blazers

But saying that the Center position is a weakness makes you look stupid.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 17, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was about to say that.

we’re one of the best rebounding teams—especially at center and joel/greg rack up the blocks but we’re weak there somehow..

wont even go there on the rockets are better all around stuff.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 17, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Law of Averages????

If you want to talk about the law of averages, then look at Porland’s “average” at home against the west. Save for a couple of Dallas games (thank God the Blazers don’t have to play them in the Playoffs) a New Orleans team with healthy players and a fluke Clippers win—the law of averages has Portland winning this matchup. They are VERY good at home. They’ve beaten LA twice (I believe Houston went 0-4 with them), Denver twice, San Antonio twice…I think I’ve just named the top 3 in the west right there….not to mention New Orleans once, Boston, Miami, Utah, Phoenix… and some of those were blow-outs. Yeah, I’ll concede that the only reason Portland won that first matchup was because Roy made that ‘miracle’ shot. But I say that that ‘miracle’ shot will be part of the reason that Portland WILL win. They have that go-to guy. Several of them in fact. And when the game is close you want that guy. Who do the Rockets have??? Yao? eh-maybe. Anyone else?? Bueller???

by jenstcy on Apr 17, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

please

please look up the word “sarcasm” in the dictionary. Thanks.

by grungedave on Apr 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

And there is no such thing as “several” go-to guys on one team. That would be an oxymoron.

by grungedave on Apr 18, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you wanna talk about good home wins

the rockets can talk about good home wins. New Orleans twice, Dallas, Denver twice, San Antonio, Utah twice, Miami, Phoenix, Orlando, Atlanta, Cleveland (holding lebron to possibly his worst nba game), and your beloved blazers twice. Plus we beat Boston on the road with a clutch 3 by wafer, and orlando on the road. So yes the rockets struggled against the lakers, but we only played them with our current roster healthy once, and that was the artest-kobe game. Houston was 4-2 against the easts top 3 with wins at boston and orlando. The rockets dont match up well against the lakers but you cant hold that against them for the series against the blazers

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

still......

who’s your clutch player?? Who’s your 4th quarter guy? Both Roy and Outlaw turn on in the 4th quarter and have hit countless game winning shots. Plus the Blazers have, if not the best, then the second best bench in the league. All of the bench players have really stepped up their game in the last month and I hope it carries over to the playoffs. If it does, Houston doesn’t stand a chance. Basically it comes down to these facts: in defensive efficiency Houston is #4, Portland is #10 (a big jump in recent weeks), in offensive efficiency Houston is #16, Portland #1. Blazers have the better PG, SG, PF and bench. But it is a difficult match up for them because Artest and Battier will be doing everything in their power to stop Roy and they 12 fouls between the two of them to try.

by jenstcy on Apr 18, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please Please Pleas take off your blazers goggles

Not all playoff series’ come down to have a clutch play in the 4th quarter. Is that a weakness of the rockets right now, yes, but its not a huge deal til that situation comes about. Whats that age old saying, something like defense wins championships i think, yeah thats it. Houstons defense at home has been amazing recently. Blake and Brooks are a push especially because brooks has played some of his best games of the season agains yall. And i know its hard to believe with you beloved bench, but the rockets is just as good, if not better. There have been many a games where our bench has come in and completely taken over the game. We get our best fast breaking team and best defensive team in the game when we play our bench. Also, do you think that last game in houston during your “hot streak” was a fluke?? We beat yall by 14 because we match up better against yall than yall do against us.

Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.

by TexasHoosier on Apr 18, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you said and I quote:
playoffs and the regular season are different animals
im not saying yall are going to win or lose the series based on youth, but i think that your youth could hurt yall in houston or in a pressure packed situation at home

We have been in more pressure packed end of game situations than anyone else. We have the most come from behind victories in the NBA (I think by a factor of 2). We have clutch players that can take those “pressure packed situations at home” that you brought up earlier. I think that was jenstcy’s point.

I don’t think you can break it down as simplistic as he did—and i think the bench plays MUCH LESS of a role come playoffs, but still—you can’t say we dont know how to deal with pressure.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nevermind.

you lost all credibility when you said:

And i know its hard to believe with you beloved bench, but the rockets is just as good, if not better.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please tell me the last time you went up against a division winner in the west, had ZERO starters in double digits and won the game by 30.

talk to me when your bench puts up 70+ points on your opp.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

those are your good home wins?

we decimated Boston by 30—WITHOUT ROY.
I’m gonna leave it to the other blazer fans to list the teams we beat by 20+ or 30+ this season. Its too long for me to recall.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 18, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this series has so far has gone to the home team

Yes, our one win was close, but a win nonetheless. We would be even 2-2 if you would have come into the rose garden this month. Or 2-1 if we got to play you at home twice. Plus, what about the whole “regular season getting thrown out the door, it’s a new season,” crap people always mention? Really, either side can’t use old stats to prove much, it’s a new season, both teams have worked in new players and will try to employ new strategies. But, if you want to go there, the home team (portland) wins the series in seven.

by appel82 on Apr 18, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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