The winner of the Rockets/Lakers series will be the 2009 NBA Champion
Yes, I'm going there. I have no problems stating it. Whomever is fortunate to survive the war of attrition that will be the Rockets/Lakers 2nd round series... that's going to be the team that collects this from Mr. Stern in June.
The Lakers are the obvious favorite to win the series, and the homecourt advantage only helps the cause. Kobe is admittedly on an insane, obsessive mission of types to win his fourth ring this year. Let's face it, the Lakers are damned good.
Meanwhile, the Rockets just got a massive monkey off their back by winning a first round series. Which means -- no pressure. None at all. While Artest stated to the fans Thursday night that they are not done with their goals, a simple series victory is now going to allow the Rockets to play free and loose. Don't expect a lot of mental mistakes due to pressure or playing "tight". Yao is no longer an annual playoff flameout. Hell, you might even see Coach Sleepy call a play or two now. Anything is possible. As Simmons likes to state, the proverbial ceiling has been removed.
The Rockets will be motivated by T-Mac's tears, too (T-Mac said the Lakers are going to win the championship this year. More reasons for his former teammates to stick it to him.)
And yet... the Lakes are 4-0 against the Rockets so far this year. Further, the Lakers won an astounding 65 games this year. And somehow did not have the best overall record. The Rockets weren't too shabby at 53 wins, but the Lakers regular season was on a whole different level.
I can already hear the peanut gallery:
"What about Cleveland?"
"Aren't you ignoring the Mavericks and Nuggets?"
"The Rockets won't win this series with the referees no longer on their side!!"
(this particular comment probably came from Portland)
Here's why none of that matters -- The only team that is true a matchup nightmare for the Rockets is already eliminated. (Haha, you suck Utah!) Denver does not scare me. Nor does Dallas. And the Rockets will want revenge for the last game of the regular season if it comes to that. Over in the East, does Boston scare anyone? The Rockets own Orlando (Yao > Dwight). The Rockets have also shown the supposed best team in the NBA how defense is really played. The last team LeBron wants to see in the NBA Finals would be the Houston Rockets. (And it's not like the Lakers don't completely own the LeBrons this year either.)
Remember? LeBron with 0 assists? Yeah, that was Houston's fault.
Meanwhile, the Lakers are not exactly a great matchup for the Rockets, and all of us here were hoping to avoid Kobe until the Western Conference Finals. Actually we were hoping that the Rockets could play Dallas... then Denver... and hope that someone eliminated Kobe before the Rockets had to. But that's no longer an option. The good news is that the Rockets have a healthy White Pills to throw at Kobe this time around.
Last four games against the Kobes:
Lakers 93, Rockets 81. This was the game where fans reached the breaking point in watching Artest dribble around and not pass. He's been much better since. This is also the only game where the Lakers faced the current version of the Rockets roster (save for Carl Landry, who will make a huge impact this series).
Lakers 102, Rockets 96. Also known as the "don't trash talk Kobe! Noooo!" game. Kobe was quiet, and then Crazy Pills had to go and say something to him about being the worst player in the world. Whoops.
Lakers 105, Rockets 100. Also known as the game featured in Michael Lewis' article on Shane Battier. Alternatively known as the "f--k you, Rafer!" game where he shanked two free throws at the end. Again. Fortunately, Rafer is banished from our fair city and won't play a role in this series. Yeah, I was at this game. 20 feet away from Kobe when he drained that long 3 at the end. Ugh. But there was no Artest in this game. And no Bynum. Landry had a MONSTER game of his own.
First game: Lakers a lot. Rockets not so much. Tracy McGrady played in this game. Or, rather, he kinda showed up and took a lot of shots. He only made one. Enough said. I'm going to ignore this game for analysis purposes. The Rockets from this game are nothing like the current version.
In reality, the Rockets have only played the Lakers once this year. The other three games featured players that won't be anywhere the Staples Center or the Toyota Center over the next two weeks. (Though T-Mac might be in the trainer's room catching up on the latest issue of Vogue magazine.)
What should be the goal for Houston? Steal one of the first two games in L.A. That's it. Steal a game, and hold serve at home in Game 3... that's when we'll see whether the Rockets have what it takes to be a champion. If the good guys can get past Kobe, there isn't a single team in the league that can stop the Rockets. This is not going to be easy. But it can be done.
GO ROCKETS!!!
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I really hope we win
So I can rub it in the face of that asshole bandwagoner Lakers fan that sits next to me in English class.
Gimme some sack lunch
by SackLunch on May 2, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wha?
A bandwagoner Laker fan? You don’t say!
I didn’t know the Lakers had such fair-weather fans!
by grungedave on May 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i respectfully disagree.
rockets over cavs.
cavs over lakers.
here’s hoping for the former. rockets over lakers in seven.
by the grawlrus on May 2, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting one of the first two is an attainable goal
But I sure hope it doesn’t happen!
by Gils_Keloids on May 2, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The Lakers are the only team I fear the rest of the way (well, Cavs as well, but we do match up well against them).
But I fear them greatly.
"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady
Still waiting...
by DreKeem on May 2, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Von Wafer needs to see a lot of minutes
I’m looking at his stats from the 105-100 loss at Toyota Center..he was 10-14 fg for 23 points and 3-4 from deep..that’s pretty good if you ask me
by UHoustonFan on May 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He would have had more
But Adleman woke up and took him out midway through the 3rd, never to return.
That was the game that Wafer became a fan favorite.
by jasonmicron on May 2, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE LA
LETS GO ROCKETS! LETS GO! Crush kobe. Mabey we can put a bunch of white women in the front row to distract kobe and keep him off his game. Im sure he has more apology rings hiding somewhere to buy off his lady.
by mutombo4life on May 2, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well this is a typical Laker troll kind of post...........
Oh wait, you’re a Rockets fan??? Hmmmmmm I thought only Laker fans had no class. Weird.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct
Lakers fans have no class
by mutombo4life on May 2, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch. I knew something was hurting.
Um you bitch whenever any Laker fan says anything other than “you guys have a great team, I think the Lakers are in trouble, good luck”. But M4L goes way below the bar with “Kobe rape/infidelity/white women” crap and I need to get a stick out of my ass??? OK.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TDS....where hypocrisy happens.
Sorry, Dave. It needed to be said.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said anything about rape
But i believe all the other stuff i said is fact, not opinion. So deal with it. I have nothing but faith in my rockets. I never made it personal, but you do what you want. I believe it was you who said things about bitching and sticks in my ass. (kind of gay). So you can rationalize it however you want because it means nothing to me. I’m a nice guy, but if you push me i push back. I’m just here to talk to my fellow rocket fans, laker fans need to go elsewhere. (at least the portland fans had some common desency)
by mutombo4life on May 2, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a total BS response.........
First of all read up a bit. I am not the stick in the ass guy. That would be Only_A_Lad.
When the nice guy shows up, let me know.
You never made it personal………LOL. (Where exactly did I make it personal?)
I know you didn’t say rape. I was talking about general anti-Kobe comments.
What’s wrong with gay?
Decency not decensy.
Dave can decide who stays and who goes, not you. Funny that all you classy Rocket fans aren’t so classy when you are playing the Lakers. Being classy to your friends is easy, being classy to everyone is rare.
And as for pushing back, you were the one pushing, I was the one pushing back. Read up and check for yourself.
Every fan base has classy fans and trolls. If you can’t tell the difference, I feel sorry for you.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re completely right, pslakerfan. You’re a nice guy who’s definitely not a troll, and it’s always enjoyable to read your contributions. I don’t know mutombo, but he made a stupid joke.
That said, my advice to you if you plan to stay in this blog for the rest of the series would be to ignore the insults and simply discuss with the more intelligent members. It won’t be as exhausting to you, and there wouldn’t be so many useless arguments over sticks in the ass and trolls.
Just my two cents.
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by LatinD on May 3, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
Nice to see you as well. It sucks that you guys are out. I always enjoy the Spurs/Lakers battles and also verbal sparring with you guys over at PtR. How are the rest of the guys (sima, ATS, etc)?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, licking our wounds… Mostly rooting for the Rockets now, I’m afraid. Yao and Scola are my mancrushes. :)
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by LatinD on May 3, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you're right about the insults.........
I think I’ll just ignore or stick to a simple +1 or -1 from now on.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
been absent for a few days.
Yeah, LatinD spoke what I was gonna say to you. I can’t wait until game time, here goes another unproductive Monday! Go Rockets! Hope Kobe takes a day off.
by airchina23 on May 4, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spurs fans need to leave, too
This is a rockets site, jerkface. Shouldn’t you be getting ready for round two. Oh, thats right, you didn’t make it.
by mutombo4life on May 4, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude you're not helping your case..........
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 4, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a Rockets site, yes
But it doesn’t mean we have to be dicks to everyone that’s not a Rockets fan
www.TheDreamShake.com Co-Founder and Writer
by UofTOrange on May 6, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bout this reponse
SUCK IT HARD!!!! How the hell are laker and spurs fans allowed to come on our blog site and tell us about class and tact. Thats like going up to a guy and slapping him, then giving him shit because he punches you back. If you dont want to hear it from us, then stay on your side of the line. And get thicker skin, you bunch of sissyfied tweetybirds!
by mutombo4life on May 4, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 4, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
today's homework assignment
You are going to pick a fight with a random person.
And you are going to lose…
by grungedave on May 4, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mutombo4life,
obviously you are a troll. And though you never said anything about rape bringing up white women in an obvious reference to kobe’s previous encounter with one is really uncalled for. That really sucks that you have to be a rockets fans b/c all other rockets fans i know are classy. And i really love the rockets, esp. mutombo, yao, and battier. But you are making a bad name for rockets fans.
by laker on May 2, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no troll.
Just a guy defending his team on their site. So bring it, hippie.
by mutombo4life on May 4, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't call me a hippie, you don't know anything about me.
I could be Barack Obama for all you know. I’m probably not though, but I could be…
by laker on May 12, 2009 5:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
when did I ever say that? Get over yourself.
by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not going to reply directly to you.
just read my comment to Mutombo, it applies to you too.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
class?
If you are looking for “classy” you are at the wrong blog.
Classy is overrated and is a quality most typically found in losers. ;-)
by grungedave on May 2, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that makes the Blazer fans classy?
Like I said above it’s easy to be classy to the people you agree with. Try being classy to the ones you don’t and I will be impressed.
And no I didn’t come here expecting to find class. I wasn’t disappointed. I just find it interesting how you guys think you’re classy because you are nice to each other. LOL.
I am just here for some interesting Lakers/Rockets discussion. However when I see hypocrisy I call it out, that’s all.
You’re the one who wrote this stuff right?
“5. I appreciate anyone’s enthusiasm about their team, however, anyone writing “Rockets/Houston sucks” or “LA/Lakers suck” is a moron and I will call you out for it."
Maybe I’m mistaken, but the old “white women in the front row” and “apology rings” seems pretty close to “LA Lakers suck”. All I am saying is if I came here and started talking about “increased security at Staples in anticipation of Ron Ron’s inevitable foray into the stands” I think you would have a problem with it too. Again, maybe I misread you.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, quit whining
seriously.
“omg u guis there’s this rockets blog and it totally sed sum meeen things aboarut teh lakecrs@!”
by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all your spelling sucks..........
secondly……………nevermind.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously? Is it the second day in a row I have to bring this out for you?

by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You seriously think I didn't know it was a joke?????????/
Here’s a little secret, I WAS JOKING TOO
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, hard to tell
when you’ve so firmly established that stick up your ass
by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least we've established who the "stick up the ass" guy is.
Seriously (to use your term) what is your problem? I don’t even think you were involved in this discussion. Can’t we both just shut the f*ck up already?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my problem
is the way you whined about “hypocrisy.” qq moar
by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least you didn't deny the hypocrisy.
What is qq moar?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Seriously? All he said was he’d call you out on it, not that it was against the rules.
LA/LAKERS SUCK
/just had to do it
//i don’t really think that
by jasonmicron on May 2, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he hasn't called him out on it, and I am not holding my breath........
Rockets Suck!!!
sorry just had to do it too! I bet I get crap for it though, cause I’m a troll you know.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're not a troll
troll’s have tact. You’re just a guy who responds to every post on an opposing fan’s blog with half-thought-out, asinine comments
by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well your spelling is getting better....
(that was a joke)
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and actually I respond to very few comments...........usually the stupid ones....
you’re the one that responds to EVERY ONE of my comments. You can stop anytime.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've racked up about 200 comments in the last two days, dude
math speaks for itself
by Only_A_Lad on May 2, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I have racked up 150 posts here total in 6 months, the data speaks for itself.
Besides I said I only respond to the stupid comments so all that means is that there are a lot of stupid comments.
Let me try this again:
“Can’t we both just shut the f*ck up already?”
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
you’re not a troll. you’re a die hard lakers fan on an opposing team’s message board.
i’m actually going to be watching game 1 with a LA transplant on Monday here in Houston near West Oaks Mall. should be interesting.
i think the lakers will win the series, however i will be cheering on the rockets the entire way. i seriously hope that the rockets can win the series but my expectations scream otherwise.
by jasonmicron on May 3, 2009 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I realized it was U of T after I posted it. Sorry.
Premise is still the same, but my bad.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Omg $$ 200.oo tix I dont think so ...
I can’t wait to Monday to see what is going to happen but I am f mad cuz they sold out fast in 6 min .. yeah i know there is ebay and craiglist but I refuse to pay that much for a ticket that was bought for 18 bucks … But Go rockets i’ll watch it for free on tv I guess
by luis scola big fan on May 2, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting thing about matchups........
Rockets>Magic>Lakers>Rockets. At least in the regular season. Kinda like the Lakers don’t matchup well with the Blazers but do matchup well with the Rockets. Even though the
Rockets>Blazers.
I guess that’s why they play the games.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
The only match up that scares me is the Jazz. Other than that, the next worst matchup are the Lakers.
In a perfect world (for Rockets fans of course), was for the Rockets to get that 2 or 3 seed by beating Dallas in the season finale. Therefore avoiding the Jazz and won’t meet the Lakers until the WCF. And many of us hoped for a Portland upset against LA as well.
But anyway, I also agree that whoever wins this series should bring home the trophy.
by airchina23 on May 3, 2009 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mistake in T-Mac's quote
I noticed this in the one formerly known as Bring Back Novak’s post about how the Rockets’ advancing to the second round is bittersweet for T-Mac post. He said the Lakers would win if it came down to a Cavs vs Lakers Championship match-up.
Check the last paragraph, read it closely. He’s still got love for his team according to the chron. If Rockets win this series, we have a very good chance of winning it all like Dave said.
by Mejeh on May 2, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I heard him on Rome prior to that Atlanta broadcast and he was very supportive of the Rockets and said that he thought the Lakers would win “if they could get by my guys.” He then went on to say why the Lakers and media shouldn’t over look the Rockets. I thought it was genuine enough. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on this, but I lost a lot of respect for him after his injury announcement.
by WakePhil on May 2, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the whole radio interview
he didnt even think about or mention the rockets when he was talking about the lakers, here is the link:
http://multimedia.790thezone.com/m/22114408/tracy-mcgrady.htm
I understand that he said what he said on Rome but it was clear that the Rockets were going to play the Lakers if they they did get past the first round or if he had some belief in his team…
by Rockets4LIFE on May 3, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would not be surprised if T-Mac wants go come back to the Rockets
and play for them. He’s going to be telling Adelman to dress him in uniform so he can be part of the second round.
by laker on May 2, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so grungedave
But the Cavs scare me too much for me to believe that 100%. The Lakers should really fear facing a Cavs team that’s not going to play more than 5 games a series. Gah that Utah series has really shaken my faith. A blown lead EVERY SINGLE MUTHERFUCKING GAME askdjhfsdkajhfsdkhfsd deep breaths. If the Lakers can get their heads on straight by the time the Finals roll around, I’d agree. The Rockets definitely don’t lose to the Cavs.
by Worthy J. on May 2, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The rockets are 1-1 vs. the Cavs this year
so let’s not start throwing around words like “definitely”. Though a rockets cavs finals would be fun to see, i don’t know if any team besides LA can win in cleveland (obviously no team in the regular season did, besides philly)
by laker on May 2, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
The loss to the Cavs was in December with Tmac going 2-7 and Yao limited to only 23 minutes.
by natrix964909 on May 2, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know your confidence is at an all-time high. :)
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by LatinD on May 2, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha I love the rockets, if they actually beat the lakers i'll root for them to win the championship
I doubt that will happen but if it did, then i’d say rockets all the way.That’s how much I love Yao Ming and Shane Battier. My g/f is a houston rockets fan and its the first time her team has advanced in the playoffs so we’ll see how that goes…
However it won’t happen guys. The Rockets won’t beat the lakers. Here’s why:
1. Lakers have too much talent. And they’re pissed off from last year and will want to show that they can play 48 min. of solid basketball. With everyone talking about how they have trouble closing out games, they will be motivated to shut everyone up.
2. Rockets just got out of the round for the first time in 12 years. Yeah they’ll play carefree and loose. But they won’t play with the same amount of mojo/heart that they played w/ against Portland. The entire series all the Rockets talked about were getting out of the first round. Now that it’s here, it’s hard to continuously stay motivated.
3. Andrew Bynum is pissed. He wanted to show the Jazz that he’s a mothafukin’ beast and got denied. This opportunity is even better.
4. Say what you want about the difference of players, players playing now on the rockets that didn’t play in the previous losses to the lakers or vice versa, but the fact that the lakers won all those games, two at your own home court is pretty strong indicator. Though of course playoffs are different from regular season, but when was the last time a team went 4-0 during a regular season against a team and lost a playoffs series to them?
5. Even if you steal game 1 or game 2, the Lakers are the best road team in the league for a reason and home court don’t mean much against them. In fact they went in to Utah and blew them out in game 4, by a greater margin than they won games 1, 2, and 5. And Utah has one of the best home court advantages.
There are really only two weaknesses to the Lakers – 1. their lack of a really strong defensive point guard and 2. They have mental let-ups in the game if they’re up by more than 14 points. So basically the best strategy for you guys is to let the Lakers get up by 14 team points at the half and make them spend all of half time thinking about how they’re ahead by 14 and then go to work in the third quarter. Not a good strategy but probably the most effective you guys have.
Anyways, that being said, good luck rockets, i love yao and we’ll see u monday
by laker on May 2, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1. Which is why they gave up those late runs to Utah, right?
2. Ron Artest said it himself, nothing less then a championship is a dissappointment. They will be motivated.
3. He isn’t going to do it against Yao. Yao shut Dwight Howard down their two match-ups this season. I’m not saying Dwight = Bynum’s playing style, but shutting down Dwight Howard is saying something. Although I think Dwight = Overrated and Bynum = Underrated.
4. The last time a team went 4-0 during a regular season against a team and lost a playoffs series to them was I believe the Houston Rockets in one of their championship years versus the Spurs.
5. We just won a series against a team that finished 34-7 at home. That team had HC advantage. We curb stomped them in their house Game 1. HC doesn’t mean much to us either.
While I believe the Lakers will take it, its going to be ALOT closer then most people think. Especially the media.
Gimme some sack lunch
by SackLunch on May 2, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why, but I love your screen name..........
As for giving up late runs, it has a lot to do with the youth of their bench and Phil Jackson’s willingness to let the bench “work things out” for themselves. They (the Laker bench) simply don’t focus well when they have a big lead. However when things get too close, Kobe and Pau come back in and stop the run almost every time. I am not saying this is a good strategy, but it probably helps get the bench valuable experience, and gains rest for Kobe and Pau. Either way I think PJ will tighten those rotations as the playoffs go on (assuming we get past the mighty Rockets) =)
You’re right, Bynum will not run all over Yao, but he does do better against traditional centers than he does against teams like Utah.
I do hope it is a long series as I have season tickets and I would like to see some basketball, but I don’t expect it to. We will see.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does...
Yao Ming. He dominates against traditional centers, I’m looking for him to dominate offensively
by clutchcitywillreturn on May 2, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should be interesting then.
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by pslakerfan on May 2, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. I’m arguing that they’re about to change that and start playing solid basketball for 48 minutes. They haven’t done that so far but against better teams tehy will star to.
2. Sure of course Ron is going to say he wants a championship. Every team in the playoff says that. The rockets will play hard no doubt, but definitely not with the same chip on their shoulder hunger they played with against the Blazers.
3. Whether or not Bynum does well remains to be seen. We have only a few games to look at to determine how he matches against Yao. But Andrew plays better when the stakes are higher and he’s challenged by his teammates. Against Yao this season he scored 13 and 10 points which is all you really need out of him b/c Pau Gasol will probably be scoring more of the points. But I ultimately Bynum will do better against the Rockets in the postseason than he has in the regular season – but I’ll concede this point as something we aren’t sure what will happen.
4. You’re wrong about this statistic. In 1994, Houston faced Portland, Phoenix and Utah en route to the Championship. In 1995 they faced San Antonio in the second round, but they had beaten the Spurs in the 1994-1995 regular season (on Jan 13 1995, 103-100). I tried to find the actual last time this occurrence happened, but could not (there’s no quick way to do it on the internet or anything). But even if you were right about it, which you’re not, that’s 14 years ago, which still makes it a rare occurrence.
5. Portland had lost the last 9 of 10 games at Houston (now 12 of 13 after this past series). The Lakers on the other hand have won 3 of the past 4 games at Houston. Though you guys did well in beating the Blazers in game 1 of that series, you also benefited when the series shifted to Houston and Portland simply cannot win in Houston for some reason. So my argument is that even if the lakers lose one of the first two games, they still have a good shot of taking one at Houston, unlike, the Portland Trailblazers who have a history of losing there. Finally, home court does mean a lot to you guys, which is why winning game 1 stole HC was a huge boost for you guys. a 20-21 road record for the regular season speaks for itself.
by laker on May 2, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took that spurs-rockets statistic from what Dave said, blame him!
Gimme some sack lunch
by SackLunch on May 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a considered response, but I am not entirely buying that the Lakers are SO tough to beat.
Lakers have a supremely talented player in Kobe, but rest of the Laker team is something that this gang of Rockets can hang with. I think the Rockets are getting better each game. This group has played only 30+ games together, and is a well balanced team.
If Battier keeps Kobe honest on the defense by making some of his treys, then Kobe will have to work on both ends of the floor, and Kobe will be unable to freelance, as he did during the regular season. Battier is healthier, and has generally been better now physically than during much of the regular season. If Brooks/Battier combo appropriately play the inevitable Fisher screen for Bryant, then we will have a series that is closer than most will expect.
I think, in the end, it will boil down to composure, and each Rocket player playing within his offensive capacities. Rockets will play tough defense. If Adelman is smart, he will let Kobe shoot and get his points, and concentrate solely on shutting the rest of the lakers (as they did with Portland).
My prediction is that before the series is over, Phil Jackson is going to throw some temper tantrums, and serious whining. Rick Adelman, seems to be one of the few coaches, who seems to get under the skin of Phil Jackson .
by Kari on May 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's
Rick’s playoff record against Phil again?
You’re right in that the Rockets could hang with an LA squad that’s minus Kobe. But….. we do have Kobe. He kinda makes the game easier for the rest of his team.
If Adelman is smart he’ll try and make Kobe take all the shots. Problem is, Kobe’s smart too and he is brilliant at reading the game. Look to see a repeat of the Utah series where he’ll look to set up his teammates and manage the game until the Lakers need one of his patented scoring explosions as the last dagger.
by Worthy J. on May 3, 2009 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With respect to Phil Jackson
Very few NBA coaches have good playoff record against Phil. Period. The point that I was trying to make was that it looks like Rick Adelman seems to be one of the few coaches who seem to get under the skin of PJ. Rick must be doing something right.
With respect to Kobe Bryant, it looks like that the last few years of not winning the NBA title has made him a more mature player who trusts his teammates. He is ultra-competitive, and I wonder if his teammates are not hitting the shots, how long would he continue to trust his teammates by setting them up? For all purposes, the Jazz series did not particularly test him that way. Lakers consistently held 10 point lead for most of the Jazz series.
As a Rockets fan, I am hoping that the Rockets are good enough to subject Kobe to this test. And yes, I wish, Kobe does attempt to take over, and fail, and see Phil Jackson, get into his mind-game routine during the pressers!
Kari
by Kari on May 3, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of teams have lost a lot of games in the last 2 seasons......
waiting for the OLD Kobe to show up. It just doesn’t happen too often anymore. To be honest the only times he shoots 25-30 times is when he is either HOT or when the team is behind/stagnant and needs him to. It may very well happen once in the series, but don’t hang your hat on it. As for trusting his teammates more, he certainly does now, but it is easier with good teammates. It is easy to say you should trust your teammates even if they suck, but in the real world when results count more than being nice it’s not very realistic. If you look at his teammates during the “selfish” Kobe years AS (after Shaq) they were pretty bad.
Luke Walton was considered one of the best for gods sake. Smush Parker (playing in China), Brian Cook (sitting on your bench), Kwame “hands of stone” Brown, etc. And those were starters!!! Pau, Trevor Ariza, Odom, and Shannon Brown are all 4 playing the best basketball of their careers with Kobe.
Anyway you guys CAN win the series, so there must be a way that will work, but HOPING for Kobe to play selfish doesn’t seem like the best one. Honestly the best way to beat the Lakers is to RUN, RUN, RUN. Unfortunately that is not the way your team plays.
Good luck, and IS IT MONDAY YET!!!!
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point w.r.t the team around Kobe - past and present
Indeed, is it Monday yet?
by Kari on May 3, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the wait is killing me.............
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by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I believe the Lakers will take it, its going to be ALOT closer then most people think. Especially the media.
How much closer can it get han most of the media predicting a Lakers win in 6?
For you Rockets scientists that means most think the Lakers will lose two games. That’s not a cakewalk. There’s not much difference between winning in 6 and winning in 7.
Some of the Utah fans tried to play this disrespect angle too, saying the media thought it would be really easy, that the Jazz were being underestimated, but most of the media said the Lakers would win in 5. Which means they thought the Lakers would lose one game to the Jazz. They couldn’t have though that lowly of the Jazz if they predicted they would beat the Lakers in a game!
by Gils_Keloids on May 3, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My personal prediction, don't take offense
And I’m not trolling:
Whoever wins this series will go on to have a chance to win the Western Conference Finals.
by Gils_Keloids on May 3, 2009 1:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whomever wins this series
Both the Rockets and Lakers can definitely take out either Denver or Dallas. Make no mistake.
Denver & Dallas are not contenders in the West. It’s all about this series. Whomever takes this series will go on to play the Finals.
by jasonmicron on May 3, 2009 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well..........
I really think it sometimes comes down to how you matchup, not necessarily who is the better team. I don’t think any Laker fans thought that the Blazers were better than the Rockets, but most Laker fans wanted to face the Rockets anyway. Simply because they are a tougher matchup for us. We simply don’t do very well against young athletic teams such as Blazers, Hawks, Bobcats, 76ers, etc. As this relates to the Dallas/Denver series, I think the Lakers would rather play Dallas, but you may rather play Denver.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn troll, go away!!!
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny dave..
I had that exact same thought in the shower this morning, whoever wins the series will win the championship. Both teams will beat Denver, and both teams have locked down Cleveland before, assuming they win the east.
On a side note, one thing I realized..if the rockets want to steal a game in LA, they HAVE to steal game 1. Phil has never ever lost a series in which he won the first game.
by Xiang on May 3, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ummm, Dallas is going to beat Denver
by grungedave on May 3, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Every NBA team outside of the Hornets could beat Denver. The fact that they’re the 2nd seed is an anomaly to begin with. They should be the 5th seed.
That said, I hope they crush Dallas. That Southern Oklahoma team deserves to be swept for giving Houston the 5th seed.
by jasonmicron on May 3, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
I want revenge on Dallas in the WCF.
by grungedave on May 3, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think so?
I think that people still are too biased against the Nuggets because of years past. They are very very dangerous. They kinda remind me of a bizzaro version of the 06-07 Warriors. When you have that many athletes, you have the potential to beat any team. It’s just that instead of huge offensive explosions like the Warriors (although they can do that occasionally too thanks to Smith and Melo) they have periods where they play absolutely lockdown, stifiling defense. Billups just insures that that happens more often and that when it doesn’t happen, the Nuggets still play decently enough that they win against inferior teams.
Basically Denver beats Dallas but falls in the WCF probably in 5/6 depending on the matchup. With how physical they’ve been lately I don’t think anyone wants to play them and then have to play with Cleveland.
by Worthy J. on May 3, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
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by pslakerfan on May 3, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't state it with so much conviction,
but, yeah, they can beat Denver. They’re evenly matched offensively, and while Denver has been significantly better on defense throughout the reg. season, I think Dallas can step up their defense.
by Only_A_Lad on May 3, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, probably
“The Rockets won’t win this series with the referees no longer on their side!!”
(this particular comment probably came from Portland)
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by Screen Name on May 3, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My remake of the Only_A_Lad - PSLakerfan Patticake Argument
Some random comment about the Lakers
PSL – That wasn’t classy. I’m classy and you are not
OAL – Get the stick out of your ass
PSL- I don’t have a stick in my ass
OAL- yes you do, it is right there
PSL- No, that is something else, why is it personal
OAL – Because you made it so
PSL- No I didn’t read up. I will no longer respond to you
OAL – Why, because the stick in your ass
PSL- No because I am not going to
OAL- Well yuore a dumy head
PSL- Your spelling sucks
OAL- That was joke
PSL- Me too
OAL- You have no class
PSL – You too
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
by USMC_Texas on May 4, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
indeed
here’s the thing about class: why should we give a shit about it? It’s sports, people! We’re supposed to argue and talk smack, that’s part of the fun of being a fan. It only becomes an issue when we breech that imaginary line separating “tactless, but funny” and “douchebaggery.” Nothing that has been said so far amongst Lakers and Rockets fans has crossed that line.
Personally, I really didn’t feel that the Blazers fans were “classy,” either. In fact, I thought a lot behaved like douchebags (the initial “greetings!” thread turning into a “bash texas” thread, for instance). But, some of them were fairly intelligent, and so that made up for it.
Classiness doesn’t matter. What matters is obeying two simple rules:
1) Be funny
2) If you aren’t funny, at least be smart.
by Only_A_Lad on May 4, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole thing is much funnier the way you wrote it........
good job. +1
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 4, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this makes me laugh. i will give houston credit for shutting LBJ down when they met once this year. but how can you not be scared to meet the Cavs if you were to make it to the finals? We have a better record against the Western Conference than you do, better home record, better away record, the league MVP, etc. Lakers will win this series in 5 or 6. i would love for Houston to make the finals, LeBron has worked hard enough this season, he could use a putt in.
by LBJ 4 MVP on May 4, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what a surprise
a guy named “X 4 MVP” who’s a retard
by Only_A_Lad on May 4, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with him....
he said it in a disrespectful way, but for the most part he is right. no way the Rockets beat the Lakers nor Cavs. but they wont be a “putt in” like he claims…
by 211 on May 4, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"retard".............classy.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
by pslakerfan on May 4, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"classy" is not to be found on this site
Classy is boring. Where’s the fun in being completely civilized?
by grungedave on May 4, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've got to be kidding
So you think that if the Lakers get beat by the rockets that Lebron will have vacation on the court? There will be a series a hard fought one from anybody in the west (except maybe the mavericks). The little home-court record is a joke. They only played the rockets once at home. Beating them four times will not be a walk in the park guy. As their previous and current opponent has discovered.
by thasword on May 5, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's sound real cool
As much as I would like to see the trophy back in Houston, and to see the Lakers watching the Western Conference Finals, I do agree with the statement of the winner of this series will win the ring but it won’t be easy. Getting by Denver won’t be a cake walk ( which I believe Dallas is going to get drove, they won’t win anymore than 2), and we a fella in Cleveland that’s playing the best basketball of his extremely young life. I am a true believer that if the Rockets play a full 48 and do what they do best as a team they are capable of winning and going as far as their heart’s desire… as wellas ours!
by thasword on May 5, 2009 1:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs


















