Yao out for playoffs

Rockets 2010

Yea I just heard the same thing.

I hope the Rockets keep Artest and T-Mac. If they do, and Yao is healthy next year, the Rockets are going to be a championship team next year. Rockets 2010

by T-Mackin on May 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Insanity...

is sometimes defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except nothing ever stays constant in the NBA

young players improve by leaps and bounds. I would think a Portland Blazers fan of all people would understand this.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 9, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

I’m not saying that. I just think to continue to put all your hope on T-Mac and Yao is crazy.

As a Blazer fan I remember when we had a center with foot issues. It didn’t work out well.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

…should I bite?

by Fundefined on May 9, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oden has had unrelated injures

Not one nagging over and over thing. Walton was different.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

by Sabonis4Ever on May 9, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

The wrist bone is NOT connected to the knee bone.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but what’s wrong with Yao? He played nearly the entire season didn’t he? There’s always a chance of injury, but he’s still the best center in basketball today. No longer playing for China during the summers will reduce his chances of injury as well.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 9, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know.

It’s just my opinion, but hasn’t he ruined your playoff dreams the last couple years with injuries? The playoffs are all that matter, who cares if he can stay healthy for the whole season and then breaks down when it counts.

It’s probably not going to get better as he gets older. You can either rebuild quickly now, or risk potentially being stuck in basketball purgatory for the next decade.

Again… it’s just my humble opinion.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I respect your opinion, but

you see we would most likely not be in the playoffs if not for Yao, so saying he “crushed our dreams” makes no sense to me. Of course everyone wishes that their star player never gets injured, but in real life people do get hurt. Unless you can miraculously trade him for someone of equal value, you deal with it and hope for the best. That is my opinion.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 9, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You foget to mention Ron Artest.

He fills in nicely as 2nd best player on the team. I guess for the next few games, he’ll be our best player.

Yao, T-Mac, Artest is a great combination. I still think T-Mac would be better off the bench. How about THAT for a 6th man?

Given the touches, Scola also produces. But we need another center. Carl Landry and Chuck Hayes doesn’t quite do it.

Rockets goal next year is to get out of the 2nd round. They’ll have a good chance.

by Skintrade on May 9, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does that puts the Lakers championship hopes in the crazy-go-nuts category?

by Chuck DeBruce on May 9, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Different thing.

The Lakers get out of the first round. The Rockets have been pinning their hopes on a chronic underachiever and a guy with reoccurring injuries. You can’t win if Yao and T-Mac are your two best players.

I would be looking to rebuild while those guys still have some value. That’s just my humble opinion though, what do I know.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For a guy with a humble opinion

you sure seem rather outspoken about it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to put down your freedom of speech, but if it were Roy who were injured right now, I really don’t think Portland fans would appreciate me posting about how they should trade away Roy and rebuild while they still can. Please be considerate.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 9, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

by Sabonis4Ever on May 9, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I feel awful for Yao.

He seems like such a nice guy and plays the game the right way. Tough competitor, doesn’t complain much, class act, etc.

Honestly though, I’m not really concerned about the feelings of Houston fans. One of the most arrogant and least considerate groups I have seen in a long time.

Just my humble opinion though. :)

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 10, 2009 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So to sum it up

You’re spraying salt in the open wound and then trying to pass it off as a “humble opinion”. Ok.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 10, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is what it is.

Yao is hurt. It’s terrible. I feel sorry for guy. I’m not “spraying” salt into any open wounds. I just don’t think the Rockets organization would be well served to not keep trying to build around T-Mac and Yao.

That’s just my opinion, who knows, maybe I’m wrong.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 10, 2009 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

says tha guy who's favorite team passed on Kevin Durant for greg oden

worry about your own team

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever you say.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 10, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a humble guy.

We appreciate your concern, but we got the genius from MIT on it, so we’ll leave it to him.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 10, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lay off

so speaking about Yao’s history of injuries is taboo? Isn’t that what most of the discussion here is about?

by tandur on May 10, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should read the posts more clearly

I’m not going to try to make this issue more than it already is.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 10, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you

Kevin Durant is my favorite player in the whole game, so I love reading what you said.

by Golden Boy on May 10, 2009 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's gonna be a monster

nobody is talkin about him but he averaged 25ppg and he’s only 20 years old. he was 6th best in tha league and tha dude cant even buy beer yet. remember when kobe averaged 35ppg in a season? KD is gonna be doin that in his sleep in about 2-3 years.

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing about your persistence says "humble"...

…that is, if we’re gonna go with what humble means and not just throw it out there to make yourself look polite.

You clearly have an axe to grind. I’d be willing to bet it is because we beat your team. You have all the potential in the world but one bird in hand is better than two in the bush. Remember that and remember what team’ll be watching and which’ll be playing today.

In short, get bent.

by KaceOFbass on May 10, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice.

I see you’re at the “anger” stage of the grief process.

I’m watching the Rockets destroy the Lakers right now and it’s making me really happy. I hope your team does well, either by everyone getting healthy, or some other means.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 10, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And...

How exactly are we arrogant?

by Silentjay on May 10, 2009 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All is not lost

The Rockets won 11 in a row without Yao during the 22 game win streak last year, including beating the Lakers at #22.

The Rockets are capable of playing very well with a smaller line-up. Our smaller lineups have held their own against the Lakers, including coming back from the 15 point deficit in Game 2.

Having the Rockets win the series is kinda unrealistic with or without Yao. I hope we win tommorrow, and Game 6 to force Game 7. Maybe we can soften them up abit so the Nuggets can take care of them in the Conference FInals. After that, I don’t really care if its the Nuggets or Cavs, but I sure don’t want the Fakers to win, so we can put a stop to that Laker fan gloating.

by Skintrade on May 10, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HELL YEAH

I hate Denver, but my god am I a fan of them now. Every team that plays the Lakers is the Warriors to me.

by Golden Boy on May 10, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's scary

If the Rockets have proved one thing… it’s that they are resilient. They lose McGrady, and the team goes on a run that gets them all the way into the 2nd Round. Now they lose Yao (plus Deke), and now how far can they go? It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if this team somehow rallied around Crazy Pills and made it all the way to the NBA Finals.

I bet Stern would love that. A proud franchise led by the NBA’s craziest player looking for redemption after the team loses it’s two best players during the season and playoffs. Sounds like Hollywood right there (and isn’t it ironic that they’re playing the Lakers??)

by tandur on May 10, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh, get rid of T-Mac and trade his ass for someone who is willing to pass to Yao

Either that or bench T-Mac. Don’t let him start. When you guys are down 10 points with 33 seconds to go, then bring him out.

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111

THIS SHIT ALWASY FUCKING HAPPENS!!!

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on May 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just heard it too

Here’s a link:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6416739.html

That sucks

by TheDream858 on May 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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Gimme some sack lunch

by SackLunch on May 9, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

:(:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::____________________

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on May 9, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe next year

what a heart breaker.

by tandur on May 9, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yahoo Sports

is reporting it has an ankle sprain, with a re-evaluation coming on Sunday. Link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqxXMn6.2Y2aVIAM2ya6yo6PvLYF?slug=ap-lakers-rockets&prov=ap&type=lgns

by Worthy J. on May 9, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

thats old

tha sideline reporter in tha cleveland game just said Yao is done

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

here's espn

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4154628

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see

well that’s a huge blow to the Rockets. My condolences.

by Worthy J. on May 9, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

first saw it on ABC just 10 minutes ago

Also found some online reports:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=4310

and

http://www.rockets-buzz.com/?gcid=C12289x022&gtkw=Houston:+Rockets%20Buzz

by tandur on May 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tis true

http://www.nba.com/2009/playoffs2009/05/09/yao.out.playoffs/index.html

by kumquatsrus on May 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yao-ch

The L*kers road to the title gets easier again. Sorry for you, Morey didn’t seem too confident about his health already during the podcast with Simmons.

by Norsktroll on May 9, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fuck. I'm out.

"I'm just looking forward to something great happening in the city of Houston" - Tracy McGrady

Still waiting...

by DreKeem on May 9, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Copied and pasted from the other board:

Game 4 or bust, but Yao’s out for the season, and I’m out as a Rockets fan. These past five years have been brutal, but I always hung with them. But year after year injuries ruin the season before its over. Hate to say this guys, but I want Tracy and Yao out so we can get some healthy players. Don’t hold me to this bc Im in shock right now from Yao’s injury.

by stuartallen83 on May 9, 2009 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry his season had to end this way.

Hopefully the rest of the Rockets will step it up and continue to make this a competitive series.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on May 9, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!

Basketballforum: Houston Rockets

by Cornholio on May 9, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ugh

First thing I thought was the Song “All By Myself” and Luis Scola.

by Silentjay on May 9, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

FUCK, I HATE BEING A ROCKETS FAN.

by aerozeppelin on May 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I feel your pain........... just pass the aggression on to Idle-man like I do. It helps for some reason.

Your a ten, but I'm on eleven!

by JakedaSnake on May 10, 2009 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it makes you feel any better

I’m a Warrior fan. I started following NBA back during the ‘93-’94 season, which was one of your title seasons. I’ve only witnessed my team make the playoffs twice. Ya’ll at least have two titles to show for it.

by Golden Boy on May 10, 2009 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poor Yao! That’s brutal. I feel bad for him and for Houston fans!

by lazNirv on May 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Keep Dreaming

You dont have a championship team You need to rebuild your team and get rid of Artest he is a bad apple which will rotten your team, The bottom part is that the lakers are a better team than you are, Now that Yao is gone your dream is over and Lakers will take on 5 .You dont have an answer For Kobby he will burn you down in crunch time . You can Keep dreaming about your team but the reality is different

by guanaquito1214 on May 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Artest

How is he a bad apple again? Just for what he did in the past he needs to have that hang over him forever?

by Silentjay on May 9, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who the fuck is Kobby?

Get lost troll. I bet your a virgin.

by stuartallen83 on May 9, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, Kobby Briant

he is a sock puppetier in canada, and in crunch time, when the chips are down, HE WILL BURN YOU DOWN!

Couldn't we just play the Timberwolves again instead? That's like being beheaded with a Nerf bat. -Dave with the Laker game preview

by JWise on May 9, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get real

Hey buddy if you’re going to trash talk the Rockets and raise up Kobe, at least spell his name right. How do the Rockets not have an answer for Kobe? They have some of the best perimeter guards in the league (Artest and Battier) I’m not going to lie it takes a lot to stop Kobe, but if you look at the stats Kobe hasn’t been playing as well as he could be due to the defense by the Rockets (except game 2).

There most definitely is a championship team with this team and T-Mac coming back. Hopefully Carl Landry can also continue to play next year. Buddy the Lakers have some flaws, not many but still have some, and the Rockets are a team that can match up with the Lakers and beat them. Hopefully next year the whole roster will be healthy. And if they are, the Lakers and the rest of the league should be ready because they’ll take the championship.

Artest isn’t a bad apple. You need to learn some history and see how much he has matured before you bring these b.s. claims to the table. Artest has carried himself with class throughout the series and has not been wrong on any of his reactions for these games yet.

Rockets 2010

by T-Mackin on May 9, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope. T-Mac is not part of the championship team.

T-mac + the Rockets earlier this year was not very good. Get rid of T-Mac and you guys are better. Add a healthy Yao and you guys can be legit. You should trade T-mac’s ass for a power forward who can also play center, so you can limit the number of minutes Yao plays. He get’s injured for a reason and it’s that you guys have nobody else to put in the lineup at his position.

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just some info

just for you’re own thoughts, but despite Kobe’s age (30) and Fisher’s (34), the rest of the Lakers are a young team. The entire roster’s average age is 26 years of age. Take away Fisher and Kobe and essentially, the core of the Lakers averages 25 years old. The Lakers will be around for atleast 3 to 4 more years.

I can see this becoming several years of Houston, LA, and Portland (plus maybe Denver) dominating the West for several years.

The question is.. which team is gonna go suicidal during that time period and trade for Shaq? :)

by tandur on May 10, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Terrible news

http://inplaynoouts.blogspot.com/ - A blog about teams I like, written by me.
#34

by Carl Johnson on May 9, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn

But honestly guys i stilnk we can pull this one out…think about it

Pros 1) We matchup a lot better now…Scola can go TO C and gaurd gasol and now we have someone to gaurd ariza and we can match up

2) Now we got speed

3) Besides for both game ones, Honestly, yao has not been as effective as he was in the season

4) Rebounding might go up

5) More outside shooters

6) DORSEY MIGHT PLAY!!! (LOL)

Cons

1) lakers will be more willing to drive without a wall there

2) Refs will have to call shitty fouls on other people

3) LA DEF will be more spread out and no double needed which will not allow us to get open shots

So who knows

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 9, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

dont over-analyze this

there is no offense now. no Yao doubles means no open shooters. get ready for Ron-Ron and his 30 shot attempts in game 4. tha lakers are the second best team in tha league and tha best offense. our D would have to be perfect and thats gonna be almost impossible w/ no shot-blocking. maybe we get 1 more game but theres no way we’re winning 3.

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope you're putting Rockets as the team better than the Lakers.

because the Cavs most definitely are not the best team in the league.

by T-Mackin on May 9, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cavs are the best team in the league

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

by Sabonis4Ever on May 9, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cavs are the best by far.

Sorry… not my favorite team by any means, but you have to give credit where credit is due.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

CAVS have you fooled. They aren't the best

Absolutely NOT. No way CAVS are the best team in the league. They have you FOOLED

The playoffs right now are like last year. Only this time the CAVS are playing the role of the Lakers last year. They basically blew through the first couple of rounds and arrived at the finals UNTESTED. The CAVS are a jumpshooting team and they do not have depth at the offensive end for their front court. Hardly any post play. In a 7 game series against a VERY GOOD TEAM, they would be exposed. Just wait and see. You heard it from me first.

by Emeka on May 9, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No they DO NOT

they ARE the BEST TEAM in the LEAGUE once you ADJUST for PACE. AND anyone WHO has watched both TEAMS knows that THE CAVS play much harder and MUCH more consistently WELL. THEY have the BEST DEFENSE in the NBA.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

love your signature

I cant even imagine how good Incarcerated Mike was

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys aren’t being VERY rational. The Rockets defense is actually better than the CAVS. Delonte West and Mo Williams do not scare me on defense. Even Lebron James. He doesn’t scare me 1 on 1. Yes he is a great weakside defender (a la running down and blocking layups), but he can get burned 1 on 1.

Big Z is just as soft as Gasol and they have no answer for Bynum. Chuck Hayes of the Rockets would do a better job on Bynum than any Cavalier big man. Varejao and Big Z get outmuscled and “out-quicked” in the post. I can go on and on but there is a reason we beat them silly twice this year with their so called BEST DEFENSE IN THE NBA. Please name 1 team with great post play the CAVS have played up til now? Rasheed Wallace that shoots 3s, Zaza Pachulia and Horford?? PLEASE… There is a reason in the middle Orlando beat them (aka the best defense in the league) by 40 points late in the season!

by Emeka on May 9, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ACTUALLY

I was WRONG. The CAVS are the THIRD BEST DEFENSE in the nba. AFTER the CELTICS and MAGIC. YOU need TO LOOK at PACE-ADJUSTED defensive EFFICIENCY.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or maybe they're playin the role of the Celtics last year

you know, tha best defensive team in tha league. defense wins championships. these lakers wouldnt know anything about that

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys aren’t being VERY rational. The Rockets defense is actually better than the CAVS. Delonte West and Mo Williams do not scare me on defense. Even Lebron James. He doesn’t scare me 1 on 1. Yes he is a great weakside defender (a la running down and blocking layups), but he can get burned 1 on 1.

Big Z is just as soft as Gasol and they have no answer for Bynum. Chuck Hayes of the Rockets would do a better job on Bynum than any Cavalier big man. Varejao and Big Z get outmuscled and “out-quicked” in the post. I can go on and on but there is a reason we beat them silly twice this year with their so called BEST DEFENSE IN THE NBA. Please name 1 team with great post play the CAVS have played up til now? Rasheed Wallace that shoots 3s, Zaza Pachulia and Horford?? PLEASE… There is a reason in the middle Orlando beat them (aka the best defense in the league) by 40 points late in the season!

by Emeka on May 9, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so NICE

you HAD to POST it TWICE

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you saying the Lakers will beat the Cavs because of Bynum?

Look at his numbers in the playoffs and tell me who’s not being very rational?

by Chuck DeBruce on May 9, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bout to post tha same thing

ive heard alotta laker fans talk about Bynum like a savior. if thats who theyre leanin on to be tha difference maker then I like their chances even less

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

didn't you KNOW?

ANDREW BYNUM is the BEST CENTER in the NATIONAL basketball association. ALL OTHERS are WEAK SAUCE.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

completely forgot

I shoulda known too. his game 3 performance was the best 4pts and 5rebs ive ever seen

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HE does things THAT are NOT SEEN in the BOX SCORE

FOR INSTANCE, he WAVES his towel FROM the BENCH better than ANY OTHER CENTER.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I havent seen towel-waving ability this good since a young Mark Madsen

he could be an all-time great someday

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see the potential

You know he’s getting a lot of playoff towel-waving experience this year, since he’s averaging nearly 30 minutes of bench time per game.

by Chuck DeBruce on May 9, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bynum isn't the reason

No not entirely because of Bynum. We worked them over without Bynum for a reason. Pau Gasol is the single most important player in that matchup. Why? The cavalier center (Big Z) is just as soft as gasol. Actually softer. He is slower. Pick and roll kills him just like it does Yao. He gets manhandled in the post and picks up fouls against a very agile big man like Gasol because of quickness.

Bynum is only a LUXURY. Gasol is too long for Ben Wallace, too crafty and actually stronger than Varejao and Big Z. Bynum is also a decent post player when he gets deep position and he is too STRONG not to get post position against those dudes I mentioned. There is no chuck Hayes on the Cavs. NO JUMPSHOOTING team would beat the CAVS because jump shots ignite Lebron in transition and you are in trouble when he gets in the open court. The Rockets with Yao WOULD BEAT the CAVS because of post play and defense of Lebron.

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

IT IS NOT ABOUT BYNUM!!!!!

Do you know what causes double teams? GREAT PLAYERS and POST PLAY. The CAVS have 1. The Lakers have BOTH. The backcourt of the CAVS is undersized for Kobe. I mean Kobe is 6’6 and everyone that has guarded him thus far in the playoffs are 6’8 and above. Tell me Delonte West is in the same class with Andrei Kirilenko, Ronnie Brewer, Battier and Artest??? Delonte is more like 6’2. He would get destroyed and manhandled in the post. It would cause double teams on Kobe. Gasol in the post would cause double teams. Odom and Ariza would have a field day cutting to the hoop. I have never seen the Cavalier heralded defense shut down a team with ELITE POST PLAY. The lakers can send 3 very sound players into the post. The CAVS can send NONE! These are all reasons why we MATCHUP with the CAVS.

And homecourt is no factor. If you haven’t noticed, the Lakers play better on the road than at home as long as its not in Portland. Please analyze basketball and tell me how the matchups favor the CAVS!!!

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

move Lebron to SG

the best option might be Lebron at SG to guard Kobe start to finish, and take Ariza right out of the game by putting Wally on him. The two times the Cavs & Lakers played this year, often times, Wally was put at PF, as the Cavs went small, and this forced a matchup of Odom or Walton vs. Wally. This is why Odom killed the Cavs in Cleveland, and essentially won the game for the Lakers.

by tandur on May 10, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lakers win 2 against tha cavs

now they think they own em

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LAVERS vs CAVS MATCHUP (Hypothetically speaking)

Oh I am very sorry to have been away and not able to address a lot of your talk. One thing I would do is remember each and every one of your screen names. When the Rockets eventually get kicked out, please be sure to come over to SS&R so we may be able to continue our argument

IT IS NOT ON BYNUM. We beat them WITHOUT Bynum and Kobe at 40%. Why? Cavalier jumpshots weren’t falling and they do not fall for a whole 7 game series against a great team. Ask Ron Artest where his jumpshot went in Game 3.. You rarely win Championships without post play. Gasol is too quick for Big Z. Go back and check their matchups, Gasol dominates Z every time. Too quick for him and too crafty in the post. Please who is guarding Odom from the CAVS. The rockets at least can throw Artest at him because they have Battier for Kobe. The CAVS do not have that luxury. So Lebron guards Odom right Then Varejao is guarding Ariza??? Scola CAN NOT guard Ariza. There is a reason Lamar HAD A DOUBLE DOUBLE (15pts, 10rebounds) IN ONLY THE 3rd QUARTER LAST TIME WE PLAYED THEM. There is a REASON! I don’t see how Anderson would do it. Rockets have 2 good and crafty post players and we still do a decent job guarding them. I don’t see how we aren’t a great matchup for the CAVS with our length.

Please if none of you would not analyze basketball but only say Bynum towel waving etc etc etc, KEEP QUIET! The playoffs are all about matchups. We need speed against Yao and Gasol does a good job. If we need power like we would against Nene in the next series, expect to see more Bynum. Bynum already outplayed Nene in our last matchup with Denver. And when we need postplay to draw fouls on the Cavalier front line (assuming we get to the finals), expect to see an effective Bynum. KOBE is the Laker savior and not Bynum but he would be very useful for the matchup. I mean Big Z is a 3 point shooter tooo! lolol

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you talk about tha lakers beatin tha Cavs w/o bynum but fail to mention that Big Z didnt play in tha 1st game and Delonte West played in neither. JJ Hickson and Lorenzen Wright, 2 guys that get no playin time on a healthy Cavs team, played a combined 27 minutes in tha 1st game. tha game Z actually played in, gasol shot 6 of 15.
and if anyone needs to worry about jumpshots fallin it should be tha lakers. i doubt Lamar Odom is gonna continue to shoot 54% from 3 and I doubt Trevor Ariza is gonna continue to shoot 51% from 3 seeing as how they both shot 32% from 3 in tha regualr season (almost always wide open). tha Cavs however have 4 guys around Lebron that shoot atleast 38% from 3 in Mo Williams (44%), Delonte West (40%), Wally Szczerbiak (41%), and Daniel Gibson (38%). tha only guy on tha lakers that shoots like that is fisher (40%) but he’s in tha worst slump of his career.

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh Delonte surely played the second game. Do not forget. HE PLAYED. Sasha Pavlovic was very instrumental in them not getting blown out in the first half of the first game. He made like 4 3s. If that is not contribution, I do not know what is. Gasol shot 6 of 15 in the second one you say but how many fouls did he draw on Big Z? When he missed because of double teams, what did Odom to the offensive boards??? He cleaned them up and added the basket. Forget the stat about the Cavs shooters from 3 point range. Everyone knows that Championships are not won on 3 point shooting. I mean I can not remember when last that happened. You have to get the ball inside and be successful in there.

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

stop talking

check your facts before making Lakers fans look like complete idiots.

by tandur on May 10, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and why do we have to worry about jumpshots falling when we have great reliable POST play? teams without post play MUST worry about jumpshots falling

by the way. if you are expecting Ariza to shoot anything less than 38% from 3 point range for the rest of the playoffs, you would wait very long. if you haven’t noticed, he takes them when he is wide open because of POST PLAY double teams and he makes them more often than not. Both in practice and in game. Odom would shoot it if you leave him absolutely wide open. He isn’t a 3 pt shooter on the lakers but he has the ability when open. Remember he was a 3pt shooter for the Miami Heat? And if you do not think Fisher can shake the slump before the post season is over, then you are really asking for too much.

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

where do I start?

here I guess: http://www.nba.com/games/20090208/LALCLE/boxscore.html
take a look at that and show me where Delonte West is. looks like the inactive list to me
and how’d great post play work for tha ‘04 Lakers? all Detroit had was Ben Wallace and Rasheed (who u called at 3pt shooter in an earlier post). tha only reason I keep hearing from you is post play, which is probably cuz thats tha only advantage they have. Cleveland is the better rebounding and defensive team (much like tha ’04 Pistons and Celtics last year) and those are tha 2 things that win titles. you dont win by outscoring opponents. you win by stopping opponents. ask mike d’antoni

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can have the greatest of post plays but still lose if your team is “dysfunctional”. THAT 04 LAKER team with Kobe and Shaq was very dysfunctional. Rasheed Wallace didn’t shoot only 3s in that series. Go back and watch it. He operated in the post!

Cleveland is NOT the better rebounding team. Head to head matchup, we out-rebounded them. When it comes to rebounding, the Lakers can struggle against a Carl Landry, Leon Powe and Paul Millsap, undersized but hustle players. I don’t see Varejao out-rebounding our bigs. I mean we collected a lot of rebounds over his head in the games we played.

Let us just hope both teams get there and matchup and we’ll see the result.

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seriously?

in tha 1st game tha Cavs only got out-rebounded by 4rebs despite not having their starting C was out, and tha 2nd game was a tie in rebounds w/ 42 each. those games dont really matter tho cuz tha Cavs werent healthy. tha lakers have yet to play them at full strength. and dont say that doesnt matter cuz Delonte West is alot more important that lakers fans think. delonte west is 5 times tha player that sasha pavlovic is.

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

are you serious? you really underestimate SIZE? Pavlovic’s greatest asset is his size in guarding Kobe.

I don’t like making excuses and I don’t want to hear who wasn’t available. Our own starting center wasn’t available in the second game. So what? Oh wait. Is the fact that we were on a 6 game road trip and just finished playing the Celtics before we played the CAVS a factor? I am not pushing the fact that Kobe wasn’t healthy so leave the Delonte West thing alone. He is ANOTHER jumpshooter. He doesn’t have the size to bang with Kobe in the post, not even close.

by Emeka on May 10, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

have you ever seen cleveland play?

or do u just go by what you imagine? mo williams and delonte west are more than jumpshooters and anyone who’s seen them more than 2 times is gonna tell you that they can create their own shot. I guess you’re just gonna have to wait and see 53 year old fisher get burned by em before u realize it. and you’re really overestimating size. Delonte West is guarding joe johnson in tha series right now even tho he’s an inch taller and 35lbs heavier than kobe. and you’re jumpshooter argument makes no sense. “well, if they miss their shots, they probably wont win”. no shit sherlock. you can say tha same thing about any team. if teams dont make shots, they dont usually win. your whole argument is just hoping, wishing, and praying tha Cavs dont make their shots.

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh please

and Rockets fans doing the same because they slowed down Lebron for a game is any better?

by Worthy J. on May 10, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so we lose both our centers within 10 games of each other, cool
i <3 injuries

by Optical Delusion on May 9, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Blazer fans say D*mn it

You can still make the L*kers whine more. speed kills.

by Roadblazer on May 9, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that really sucks

Blazer fan here as well. I’m very sorry to see Yao out. You don’t want to see that happen to anyone, but especially not your team. The Rockets have battled injuries to their stars for too long. It is unfair that this happens again. You guys deserve better.

I really thought this might be the year for a deep playoff run for you guys.

by grigs on May 9, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn, that sucks for Yao. Sorry Houston won’t have their best player for the rest of the series. Good luck to y’all next year but I think Houston has a tough road ahead if they are gonna beat the best of the west this year.

Maybe China will stop overusing Yao in the offseason. He needs to rest and get healed.

by thedropper on May 9, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Does summer play contribute to broken bones?

crap. that posted far too quickly. hit enter instead of tab.

It was a serious question not flippant. Sorry if it came off that way because of my accidental keystroke.

I understand the relationship between summer play and fatigue, but I always thought that things like bones breaking had more to do with just the strength of the bones, etc.

I’m obviously not a doctor. Would not playing in the summer make a difference for his bones? It can’t help, that’s for sure especially fatigue. But would it actually impact how likely he is to break a bone in his foot?

by grigs on May 9, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, so it didn't post

I’m confused now. it looked like i had accidently posted a comment, but apparently not. Ignore the first two paragraphs in my comment above.

by grigs on May 9, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guys like Yao

have a mileage limit to how long they lug that 320 lb body up and down the court. The more he plays in the summer, the more stress is accumulated on his bones, and makes him more injury prone.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 9, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a shame.

by jksnake99 on May 9, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry guys.

That is a bummer.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 9, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this is so so depressing

year after year.. we get bitten by the injury bug ..

sucks..

sucks.. anyway Yao was great this year.. kudos to him..

by the_hustler on May 9, 2009 9:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

At least its not a career ending injury

The Rockets made it out of the first round already, so no complaints here. I highly doubt we can pull of another win without our best offensive option, but anything could happen down the stretch. I look forward to next season where we’ll finally be legit contenders (depending on what Morey does with Artest/T-mac).

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 9, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This felt like the year the Rockets could make noise in the playoffs

The way they looked against the Blazers was impressive. Damn shame.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

by Sabonis4Ever on May 9, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

How about let's all go bomb the Chinese Basketball Federation?

Yao hasn’t had an off-season in 10 years. Those commie bastards need to die.

by airchina23 on May 9, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He's not playing for China anymore!

by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on May 10, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh yes he is.

I should know. And what really pisses me off is that Yao will only be out for 8-12 weeks with this injury. That means he will still play for China for the Asian Games coming up in September.

by airchina23 on May 10, 2009 6:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you're truly a chinaman? as your name suggests don't you want him

representing China at say the Olympics? I mean think how crappy it’d be if Yao couldn’t play for his home country in the biggest sporting event of his home country ever? To him the Olympics are bigger than the second round of the NBA playoffs

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the Olympics? YES. But it's a once in 4 year event!

China has not given Yao an offseason since he was 16!!! Sure, he can suit up for the Olympics. But not some exhibition matchup against Iran or Slovenia in some commercialized tournaments.

by airchina23 on May 10, 2009 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And it's not even the games that I'm worried about.

Yao has to train with the Chinese squad with their backwards training methods. It will only produce more wear and tear on your body, and it’s bad for your game. Not to mention their facilities are still pieces of shit. Despite having loads of money from corruption, the basketball federation in China doesn’t even block out good seats for the players when they travel. Yes, Yao gets to sit with the rest of them in economy class. Tell me that isn’t hell for a 7’5’’ man.

by airchina23 on May 10, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got a warning for using the word c--man and pple are in this post using the F-word very liberally

by laker on May 12, 2009 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

because that is a derogatory word

though i’m not offended by it, can’t say the same for others.

by airchina23 on May 14, 2009 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No man

Do not do that. If not for CBF, nobody would have discovered a talent like Yao Ming’s. Relax man, Yao will be fine, the Rockets will be fine. They will finish ahead of equal to 26 teams in the league (out of 30) at the very least. That’s pretty good man. ONly four teams will actually be “Ahead of them” if they lose to the Lakers.

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Rockets team to start the 2010 season will not have Yao or T-Mac

but we will have artest. Get Red-dy for time after Yao, its coming soon.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers

Series Tied 1-1

by TexasHoosier on May 9, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

uh

it’s only 8-12 weeks, hoss.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea

no surgery

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He said 2010

What are you saying Hoosier, the Rockets will trade Yao?

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash on May 9, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why are we even talkin about 2010?

are we givin up on ’09 already?

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 9, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

indeed

I don’t have great confidence that Artest/Brooks can play McGrady/Alston and somehow make up for Yao’s absence, but stranger things have happened.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i meant this upcoming season

‘09-’10. but sure, we get a slight chance this year. this is still tha NBA, not UNC vs Southeast Missouri St.

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im not saying next season is over already

or that the Rockets will trade Yao. But I honeslty believe that the only way the Rockets will resign Yao in the summer of 2010 is if we win the championship next season. How many seasons has Yao missed games due to leg injuries? He will still have to play for China, he will still always be more fatigued to start the season than everyone else. Every summer keeps adding up for him. If the Rockets dont resign Yao and T-Mac we will have a SHIT ton of money to spend and there are ALOT of good free agents in the summer of 2010. The Yao experiment is over unless we do amazing things next year.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers

Series Tied 1-1

by TexasHoosier on May 9, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude you make it sound like Yao has nowhere to go...

In case you haven’t realized, its the other way around. There are numerous teams/markets out there who would want to sign one of the most marketable athletes in the world. We’re not talking about guys like Drew Gooden/Ben Gordon who won’t ever find the kind of contract they’re looking for. Do you seriously think top tier free agents are just going to waltz into Houston if Yao leaves? As teams such as the Grizzlies have shown, cap space don’t mean shit if there’s no chance to win.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 9, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Yao has these injuries, but he’s easily the Rockets’ best financial and basketball investment.

The Rockets need a decent backup who can take more minutes for him. I imagine that’s going to be Morey’s #1 priority in the offseason.

by Only_A_Lad on May 9, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you really think Yao can stay healthy as he gets older??

The grizzlies cap space, and the cap space the rockets would have would be completely different.

The rockets wont keep him just because he is marketable in China. There are plenty of players who are more marketable in America than Yao. Yeah he has options, i wasnt saying that he doesnt, but the Rockets will have options too. Why keep an injury prone guy just to keep the team marketable?? That is dumb and Morey is smarter than that.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers

Series Tied 1-1

by TexasHoosier on May 10, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All cap space are created equal.

No I don’t think Yao is the next Ironman nor do I think he’ll be able to play 80+ games every year down the road, but it is premature to just pencil in 40DNPs per year for him now that he no longer plans to play for China every summer. If you really think Morey can get another player of Yao’s caliber (who wants to play in Houston) in a trade, then I sure am glad you aren’t in the Rockets management. Yao has shown loyalty to this team ever since he was drafted, and I know Morey will respect that.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 10, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I never said a trade i said let him go and sign someone else or two

A high quality center is not needed to win in the NBA anymore. If the Rockets keep our role players, but release T-Mac and Yao, i can assure you that atleast 1 star will want to be here. We have great management, great fans, and will have a good team to put around a star.

Its not Yao’s choice whether he plays for china or not, and thats besides the point anyway. These injuries are becoming recurring in the SAME PLACES. Its always his left foot and right knee. Thats a problem especially for a big guy who is not getting any younger.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Game 3 108-94 lakers

lakers lead 2-1

by TexasHoosier on May 10, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Once again I will say that you are right about the injuries

and I do not mean to question your knowledge of the NBA, but letting Yao and T-Mac walk away? That’s team suicide.
You are correct that we do have great management, and fans, but I highly doubt “at least 1 star” of Yao’s caliber will come to Houston solely based on the supporting cast. LeBron, Wade, and Bosh are not coming to Houston to play with Brooks, Landry, and Scola. I may sound like an ass, and I apologize for it.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand you POV

but the free agent class of 2010 is unlike any before. No one know what will happen so to say that a star of Yao’s caliber wont come is premature. Players like playing with Artest and if Artest is still here, he will help draw people. About “yao’s caliber,” what exaclty is Yao’s caliber? He’s never been top 5 in MVP, he hasnt stayed healthy all season since his first three, hes never been out of the second round, he can be taken out of the game way to easily by fronting. I dont think we can get LeBron or wade, but Bosh is possible, so is Dirk or Pierce, or Joe Johnson, or Josh Howard, or Amare. While they arent all on Yao’s level talent wise, not all of them will demand yao money and i believe we could get two. Maybe Amare and Michael Redd. Put that with AB/Lowry, Artest, Scola/Landry, Battier, and Wafer/james white and youve got a playoff team.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Game 3 108-94 lakers

lakers lead 2-1

by TexasHoosier on May 10, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The overrated 2010 class

will likely be much less crowded after all the big names resign with their current teams. By Yao’s caliber I mean players who can impact the pace of the game, and change the tempo at will. Guys like Pierce and Bosh put up great numbers, but they play to the flow, not dictate it.
Yes fronting is Yao’s biggest weakness, but not all the blame deserves to go on him, it is too easy for opponents to zone in on him since we don’t have someone who can consistently create their own shot on the perimeter. Not to mention his teammates frequently forget to look for him.
Considering the make up of our current team, I can’t think of any free agent out there who could make this team better than it is in Yao’s place. Amare? He was called out by his own teammates for not playing any defense, and he has ego issues. Michael Redd? Shoot first pass later, not a good fit with Ron Artest.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Amare? He was called out by his own teammates for not playing any defense, and he has ego issues. Michael Redd? Shoot first pass later, not a good fit with Ron Artest.

Youre talking about the suns remember, defense doesnt really exist there. Amare wants to win, if Artest got on his ass Amare would play defense. Michael Redd is on the Bucks, who does he have to pass to? Put him with better players on a team that can win and he would play team basketball, look at the Olympics. I know that was all stars, but Redd knew his place. A good coach and good teammates can make him realize that.

Yes yao slows the game down, but he also hurts the Rockets alot when teams run against us. It an automatic 5-4 unless Shaq is the opposing center, and even then Shaq still beats Yao down the court sometimes. How many more seasons do you want yao to get hurt before you think he can only help us? 3? 4? Its already been 4 seasons where a yao injury has hurt the team a shit load.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Game 3 108-94 lakers

lakers lead 2-1

by TexasHoosier on May 10, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It seems we have reached the end of the argument

But for the record, Porter’s Suns did try to play defense, that was what got the whole Amare on the trade block thing started. Anyhow we’ll see what Morey does. HardGay out.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's not playing for China anymore!

Did you not follow the Olympics?
He said that was his last time with the Chinese team

by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on May 10, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's not up to him.

by airchina23 on May 10, 2009 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's time he took matters into his own hands.

I think the CBF guys will be smart enough to realize that if they want to be greedy and force Yao to play every summer, he may not even last till the next olympic games. If they wise up a little and maybe ask for an appearance once every four years, then it would prolong Yao’s career as well. I think even the majority opinion in China will support his decision to not go back every summer if he does decide it that way.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Easier said than done

This not like the NBA where you only piss of one team if you make a stand. You’re pissing of the government of one of the most powerful nations in the world who don’t have any qualms of using strict discipline and a fanbase that has over a billion people.

by Worthy J. on May 10, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But this is Yao we're talking about

The chinese fans know what kind of person Yao is. If he says he can’t play, its definitely not a spur of the moment kind of decision. I also don’t think the government of China is going to “flip” if Yao reduces his commitment to once every four years, I mean he has done everything that was expected of him for the past 6 years. This isn’t the same situation with Wang Zhi Zhi who bolted for the Dallas Mavericks and completely broke off relations with China, yet is playing for the Chinese national team once again. Anyways no one knows whats really going to happen, this is just what I’d like to see happen.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chinese basketball fans know

but there are hundreds of millions of Chinese people who don’t know the slightest thing about basketball that know Yao. The only reason they care about him is that he represents their nation.

If Yao can discuss it with management and have them listen to logic, then that’d be great. I’m just saying that unlike in the NBA, there is little Yao can do if the government tells him to play every summer.

by Worthy J. on May 10, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yao get's paid the $$ he's gotta sacrifice his body for it, he also needs to

play for national pride man. Pay me that much $$ and i’ll go to every rockets practice. Make me the starting center on the Chinese basketball team and i’ll go there every offseason. I love and respect yao and want the best for him, but its’ not like Kobe’s taken a prolonged period of time off. He’s left with like 2 digits on his shooting hand and he’s still going at it. Yao and Kobe a warriors who play through stuff (like Iverson and unlike a certain second-round virgin by the initials of T.M.)

by laker on May 12, 2009 4:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude chillax man, this season isn't even over man.

Orlando beat Philly w/o Superman Dwight. Have some faith dude. If the Rockets see that their fans are already giving up, then how do you expect them to play hard?

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, a lakers fan who isnt gloating about the series being over already.

Im proud of you and glad you are showing some class. I still believe the rockets can win a game or two this series, but our hopes for a long run are over. Im not being a bad fan, im being realistic. There is no way we can beat LA with our biggest guy being Luis Scola. We have no frontcourt depth anymore. Orlando won one game against Philly w/o dwight. Houston cant win a series agaisnt LA w/o Yao.

Game 1 100-92 Rockets
Game 2 111-98 lakers
Game 3 108-94 lakers

lakers lead 2-1

by TexasHoosier on May 10, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol Change your mind after watching game 4?

I predict Lakers will win games 5 and 6, but my predictions are often wrong (such as Lakers in 6 for the 2008 Finals). The point is anything can happen, superman-less orlando can close out the sixers and yes, the bulls can hang w/ the celts. I believe the Mavs can come back down 3-1. don’t count your chicks before they hatch, don’t count your $$ until its deposited, etc.

by laker on May 12, 2009 4:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man, even Shaq feels bad for Yao

Sorry about your foot, yao ming. Dam dam dam

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash on May 9, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why does Shaq have superman logos plastered all over his twitter

Doesn’t he know that the title of superman belongs to Dwight?

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shaq has a tattoo, Howard wears a shirt.

Advantage: Shaq.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on May 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shaq needs to get rid of the tatoo

He’s no longer superman anymore (if he was at anytime ever superman). Do you think Clark Kent would not be able to lead his team to the playoffs? I don’t think so. I don’t think Shaq ever was officially known as superman. He may have been Aristotle or Cactus or M.D.E. or whatever, but he’s def. not superman

by laker on May 12, 2009 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Despite the solemn atmosphere

that line alone made me laugh.

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i feel bad for yao ming and for the rockets fans. yao is actually a very likable guy. i like him. he’s a good center. it’s too bad he continues to have health issues. as a basketball fan, i always want to see teams at full strength. i wish the celtics had kevin garnett. i would’ve like yao ming to keep playing. i am lakers fan, but i don’t like playing against teams who are not at full strength. it goes both ways. unfortunately, injuries are a part of sports.

by chaucer on May 9, 2009 11:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I feel bad for Yao too.. Kind of sucks because he played w/ so much heart and played

extremely clean, never grabbed other people’s jerseys or taunted or went crazy during a game (unlike some other players).

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This blows.

I was really hoping the Rockets would be able to beat the L*kers up a bit. So a center gets hurt. Im used to it as a Blazers fan.

I guess it doesnt change much though. The L*kers are still going to get stomped by the Lebrons.

by BlazerBen on May 9, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lol everyone is hating on the Lakers

I’ll ask this, will everyone who is claiming the Lakers will get dominated by the Cavs please leave their emails so they can be held accountable for their words come June? I just wanna be able to email you guys come June in response to all the trash-talking.

by laker on May 10, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just remember my screen name

i’ll be here when Lebron takes his crown

You're not foolin me Kerry Collins.

by TitanFan2K on May 10, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or in hiding

when Kobe takes the crown and tells Lebron “It was never yours to begin with.” ?

by tandur on May 10, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still think the Lakers have an edge against the Cavs

I originally thought that the winner of this series will take home the trophy. Now it appears it will be the Lakers.

by airchina23 on May 10, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It sort of cracks me up that we are already assuming a finals matchup... Lakers need to dispatch Houston and then Denver STARTS. Cleveland is gonna have to get by Orlando.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on May 10, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

too true

although the East is so weak right now i wouldn’t be very surprised if Cleveland sweeps the winner of Boston/Orlando. The way Denver is playing right now, they have a good a chance as any to make it to the finals.

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by hardgay on May 10, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs