Rockets Fans : What do you want Morey to do next?
We've had a lot of posts about possible trades, FA signings and draft options for the future, let's consolidate them here unless something huge comes up:
One of the Rockets weaknesses was just tightened up with the acquisition and signing of David Andersen. At the beginning of the off-season that was clearly a need and a want, and in the middle of the off-season it was a necessity with the Yao news. Now that Morey has that squared away, what's his next step?
There is always the possibility that the team is set and training camp will sort out who makes the 15 man roster, who goes to the D league and who gets cut. Genius Morey will clearly be looking for guys that can produce either a. all around or b. where the Rockets need it most. Right now that area is scoring, and that's why Mr. Alexander paid 2 million dollars for the rights to Chase Budinger and Jermaine Taylor. There is obviously the option for a trade or to get one of the 4 available free agents (including signing our own in Von Wafer).
Here are some options, in the comments let's talk about others I'm missing. And let's face it, I haven't exactly been Tom Martin involved this last month so I will have missed a lot:
Sign a FA. Here is the list of all the guys available when the off-season started. If anyone has a link to who has signed and who hasn't I would greatly appreciate it. Just glancing at the list, there aren't a lot of guys still out there that won't be matched as RFAs, that meet the Rockets low salary options or fit the Rockets in a need area. Chris Wilcox was rumored for a while, but I'm not sure if that's still possible given the Andersen signing, and honestly I think the Rockets got the much better of the two.
Sign Von Wafer, that one is simple enough
Stick with what they have, also known as, get Budinger, Taylor and Dorsey on the 12 person roster
Make a trade, presumably involving McGrady or Battier. Not because either guy is bad or I don't like them, but because that's your best two trade chips followed by Landry and Brooks.
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Wilcox signed with Detroit
I think the only thing Morey has to do now is make room for the young guys. We have to get rid of Cook and Barry (easier said than done, though).
keep barry, loose Cook
THEN RELEASE THE KRAKKEN!
by mutombo4life on Jul 21, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
IF healthy
I think we’re going to see a lot of the Kraken this year. He had a great summer league.
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yes i agree with that 100 percent, espcially dorsey, but
lose cook and barry. they are old and neither one of them cant play defense to save their lives. make room for dorsey with cook gone. thats my main concern. we don’t have dorsey on that bench this year and we have cook instead, i will question morey as a “genius” a little bit. but i think he will make the right decision and go with dorsey. you cant ignore averaging about 8 points 13, 14 boards a game forever.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Jul 22, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate him, I just feel better when he's not around.
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Rasho Nesterovic
Genius Morey should also sign Rasho to back up Andersen and Luis/Landry. Rasho is a good defender and rebounder who will not need a big contract. As for the SG, Adelman should try to give Taylor and Budinger a chance to back up Ariza and Battier
I don't know who would want Cook or Barry
stick with them (but never play Cook), let Wafer go, and then give a roster spot to either Budinger or Taylor. We can wait to trade McGrady until the deadline. We haven’t got many options with free agency, so we need to just stick with what we got.
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Yeah.
I don’t think we’re going to be able to get rid of Brian Cook. God knows Morey has (likely) been trying. Especially now that we got a big man in David Andersen who can spread the floor with his shooting.
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Solution for Cook and Barry
Take out their ankles. Inactive list.
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Sounds good to me
or we could just get Derek Fisher to break their faces
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trade T-Mac
for contracts that can be bought out, then sign and trade Odom, pick up Joe Smith for a year
come on miracle, i know you’re there somewhere…
otherwise, stand pat, wait for next year
why would you rather have joe smith than lamar odom.
odom is nasty.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Jul 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
cap space...
odom demands a long term deal, while smith doesn’t so much…
though my logic does seem to have quite a hole, as Smith is probably gonna be a Mercenary…
also so that Yao has some #1 pick company
Unless we get a superstar, there’s no point of trading T-Mac. Most of the other teams are stacked (LA, Orlando, San Antonio) and we’re not gonna be close to a contender unless we have a healthy superstar.
Surely some team could use cook at the end of their bench- I hear he is one of the best towel waivers around!!!!
it’s probably best to have a list of players that are guaranteed on out roster, then the unsigned rookies as a separate list. That way we know what options we have with the rookies and unsigned guys and then who we could D-league or IL, drop or trade.
We can have a 15 man squad right, with 13 players suiting up and 2 on the I.L and Rick rotation would be 9 deep out of the 13 yeah? (Correct me on any of this if I’m wrong!!!)
Under Contract-
Trevor Ariza SG-SF
Brent Barry G
Shane Battier SF/SG
Aaron Brooks PG
Brian Cook F
Joey Dorsey F-C
Chuck Hayes F-C
Carl Landry F
Kyle Lowry G
Tracy McGrady G-F
Luis Scola F-C
Andersen- F-C
UNSIGNED ROOKIE
Jermaine Taylor G
Sergio Llull G (STAYING IN EUROPE)
Chase Budinger F
UNDER CONTRACT
James White G-F
Yao Ming- C (IL)
FREE AGENTS
Von Wafer (FA) SG
So from last season we have 11 players returning with Andersen signing and White making 13 with his rights until we sign the rookies. But that probably will not come till the start of Oct.
Yao is out all season so he’s IL yeah- would Tmac be on there too until he returns then?
So If we can shed Cook that means we can definitely keep dorsey in the rotation right?
And we have no real need for Barry (playing wise) so If we move him we can sign both rookies
Current team
PG- BROOKS/LOWRY
SG-BATTIER /BARRY (TMAC to return)
SF- ARIZA/ (James White- only cause we hold his contract)
PF-SCOLA/LANDY/HAYES
C-ANDERSEN//DORSEY
Start of the season – roster that I would like to see
PG- BROOKS/LOWRY
SG-BATTIER/TAYLOR/ (TMAC to return)
SF- ARIZA/ Budinger
PF-SCOLA/LANDY/HAYES
C-ANDERSEN//DORSEY
12 man squad- if Tmac isn’t looking good to go from the start- we will need to sign Von
if we can. Otherwise we would have to use White…
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you can only suit up 12
3 on the IL
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 22, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
About Cook
Look, I don’t want him either, but think about what we would have if he wasn’t here: Rafer Alston. Cook also came with Kyle Lowry. I’ll take Cook’s stupid contract for one more year if it means gaining Lowry and shedding Alston. Plus, can you blame the guy for taking a free $3.5 million deal for one year? There’s nothing better than that this side of Keith Van Horn.
Though I wouldn’t mind if we traded Cook for a draft pick or something. There’s got to be teams looking for expiring contracts for the Summer of LeBron, and he’s a good one. Though, I think the Rockets might hold onto the contract for the same reason. Scola and Lowry become free agents (restricted), so the Rockets may need that money to tie them up, or maybe go after someone else.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
That's a pretty good point.
I hadn’t really thought about the financial side of keeping that dead weight around. The problem is he produces NOTHING and isn’t likely to change that. I think he’s just kind of mailing it in as of now – knowing that his career is likely over.
BTW, Malcolm Gladwell is proven once again. First rounders who suck stick around way longer than a 2nd rounder who has the same level of talent. Interesting I suppose.
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I don't think anyone
has a problem with us having to take on Cook to get Lowry, mainly that he’s taking up a roster spot at load postion and that he’s not good enough to use. That roster spot he’s taking is stopping us from giving 1 of our draft picks a run on the team or Von…….
I think everyone knows that we can’t trade him for a player and we would be chasing a 2nd round pick for 2011-12.
"It's who we are," Battier said. "I don't think we're going to get the love of the six foot blonde bombshell. That's what the Lakers are here for. It's alright, I like our demographic."
My take...for now...
Barring the fact that we make a blockbuster trade, this is what I’d do…
Re-sign Wafer….Simply because I’ve not been impressed with White & Taylor in Summer League, as for now Wafer is clearly better than either of them.
PG-Brooks,Lowry
SG-Wafer,Battier,Taylor,McGrady
SF-Ariza,Budinger,Barry
PF-Scola,Landry,Hayes,Cook
C-Andersen,Dorsey
Odd an out would be James White, was orrible during Summer League. I would love to see the Rox get rid of Barry & Cook, but I don’t see them eating those contracts.
And YES, thats Von Wafer in the starting lineup, we need offense and he provides that…With Brooks & Wafer we’d have the fastest backcourt in the leqgue to push the tempo, both can creqte their own shot. Plus having Battier come off the bench makes sense. That mean we’ll always have a fresh defensie stud on the court.
I dont know
If Brooks and Wafer being the fastest backcourt in the league would be a good thing. I remember many occasions when Von and Lowry were out of control on the fast break and it was quite frustrating to watch. However it would be less frustrating now since we dont have Yao and need to run a lot more, i just hope that Von gets some chemistry with our speedy point gaurds this year. Ariza should be able to help push the tempo as well, i just hope he gets better handles before the season starts
lose barry and cook.
then thats a good roster.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Jul 22, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That also means our most expensive players
are either in suits or off the bench though?
"It's who we are," Battier said. "I don't think we're going to get the love of the six foot blonde bombshell. That's what the Lakers are here for. It's alright, I like our demographic."
hey im from golden state of mind
and people on our site dont agree with me on this but dont you agree that brooks, battier, hayes and a first round pick or 2 is a very good offer for our undersized no defense sg monta ellis.
Our team is a terrible defensive team so we add 2 of the best defenders in the entire league. we have no true point so we get your aaron brooks
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by Artest4Prez on Jul 22, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
well
I would have to think hard before trading brooks straight up for monta ellis, much less this deal. I think ellis is a good player but he doesnt have a position, doesnt play defense, and hes not a guy i would try to build a franchise around. I see him having a t-mac sort of career. Scores a lot and by all means is a great player, but never gets out of the first round.
by shaqui chan on Jul 22, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
So Nelly can literally play the shortest rotation ever?
Brooks-Curry-Battier-Jackson-Hayes must be it.
Nelly would hate Hayes though because he can’t shoot. Hmph.
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It's a numbers game
The Rockets currently have 14 guys signed to guaranteed contracts for next season (that includes Brian Cook, Brent Barry, James White and Joey Dorsey), and the Rockets essentially have guaranteed money in Budinger and Taylor because of the financial investment in purchasing the picks. This makes Morey’s job even more difficult because if he isn’t able to get out from one of the contracts, he’s going to have to go to Les and say we’ve got to eat a couple million dollars somewhere by cutting one of these guys. Morey’s too smart to let that happen, but he’s got to make something happen to get out of that situation without introducing Von to that mix. And unless he’s able to move a couple of the guaranteed contracts, I don’t see him doing anything with Von.
It seems to me that the most likely scenario is that a team with a trade exception brings in a guy who has some value (ala the Suns dumping Kurt Thomas with the Sonics along with a couple of second round picks). I could see a team thinking that Brent Barry could add some value. Same with Chuck Hayes. I don’t know what teams have available trade exceptions, but that’s one way to get out.
The other option is to package contracts, but with TMac, you’d probably have to bring more players back to match salaries. And I’d rather use the wait and see approach. Even if TMac isn’t able to come back before the deadline, there will be teams wanting that expiring contract, and by then, Morey ought to have a better idea of what the Rockets have in Ariza and the rookies and how Brooks and Landry have improved, which should help in fitting a team around those guys.
You could try to pack Battier and some other piece (Barry/Cook) for some player. I can’t imagine the Rockets would get much in such a trade, but if you’re just trying to get within roster limits, maybe you take it.
I guess the last realistic option is you package Hayes, Cook and Barry and just tell another team we’ll take a bad contract for these three expiring deals. The Grizzlies owe Marko Jaric another $15 million over the next two seasons, so you could save the Grizzlies a few million in the 2010-2011 season, and you might even get to catch Adriana Lima somewhere around the Toyota Center sometime. That’s got to be worth something. If you get really desparate, there are a lot of bad multi-year contracts out there that you could probably take on that start in the $6-$10 million range next season. (And on a completely unrelated note, I just spent the last fifteen minutes clicking through HoopsHype and there are some pretty shitty contracts out there, I’m looking at you Sacramento and Golden State).
by forshizzzle on Jul 22, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What would be the point of shipping three expiring contracts
For a bad contract? Just to sign the rookies?
One albatross is better than 3 if the money is close. Roster slots are precious right now:
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by Xiane on Jul 22, 2009 8:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Whatever happens
Keep Chuck signed please :] – Dorsey might be a beast, but he is still an unmeasured quantity especially defensively as is Andersen.
I like your idea with Jaric – I have no idea about league $$ and cap but is that deal really worth less than buying out Cook, Barry directly ?
Retribution.
we might have a chance of trading brent and cook to the t-wovles
by rockets #1 fan on Jul 23, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions
we should trade brent and cook to a team who need vets for draft picks.if that happen we would have two open spots on the roster and have more money available to resign von wafer
by rockets #1 fan on Jul 23, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions

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