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We lost Crazy Pills... but what about Von Wafer?

The holiday weekend came and went.  Along with the exit of the beer and hot dog-filled weekend was the move to Los Angeles by Ron Artest.  Oh, well - it was not unexpected.  Besides, the Rockets picked up a 24 year old with a championship ring to play the same position for a cool $33M.  That will be about $1M per dribble over the life of the contract (for, you see, the unspoken part about Ariza is he has worse handle than an SUV with a high center of gravity).  But enough about weekend transactions that I do not understand...

what about Von Wafer!?!?

The Chronicle reported this weekend that Von doesn't understand the Ariza signing and that he's angry.  Or maybe that's just his agent trying to talk tough.  Since I have no idea who Mitchell Butler is and because I don't want to misinterpret him... here's what he told the Chron:

A day after he was stunned with the Rockets’ agreement with Ariza, Wafer’s agent, Mitchell Butler, said the Rockets have shown little interest in keeping Wafer, 23, leading him to look elsewhere.

Butler said he was "floored" that the Rockets pursued Ariza, rather than seeking to keep Wafer and Ron Artest, and said it is "definitely highly unlikely (Wafer) would be back."

"None of it made any sense to me," Butler said. "We had a good conversation with them prior to free agency. I expected they would look at a center and then come back and look in-house."

And yet... your client was never going to get $33M or the midlevel exception, so wait your turn Mr. Butler.

I fail to see how letting Artest go and signing Trevor Ariza somehow impacts the Rockets' decision whether or not to keep Von Wafer.  Look, I love the Baron.  Von was entertaining as hell to watch last year.  But he's not exactly a hot commodity on the free agent market right now.  ESPN doesn't even have him listed among people to care about in the rumors (Insider link, sorry for you non-subscribers). 

Of the top 50 free agents this offseason (just under 2 per team on average)... Von is nowhere to be found.  Translation?  I do not think his agent understands how little leverage Von has in this situation.

So, Mr. Butler, I suggest you check your ego at the door and take what the Rockets give you.  I'm sure Morey and Adelman want Von back on the roster next year to give the Rockets energy off the bench.  Hell, I *know* Lee wants him back just so he can justify buying a #13 jersey.  That said:  the Rockets won't be offering that roster spot to Von Wafer for as much money as his agent appears to be demanding though.  Hopefully cooler heads prevail and Von realizes he has a good thing here.  To bitch about money might short-circuit his entire career.

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not necessarily

We can move money around to sign him if need be… there is still some wiggle room.

by grungedave on Jul 6, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.......

Just ait your turn, have to cover hat we lost, then Morey ill come back to house, with really no center in site or available, Morey is probably got a plan no one knows about. For sure I would say they want to keep him, have to keep your bench. Mr. Agent please hold your horses!! Von we luv ya babe!

by kmbrly429 on Jul 6, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we really need him?

Given that we just signed Ariza and drafted two other wing players in Budinger and Taylor, is there really any room on the roster for him? We still have Barry around for one more year as well, and potentially McGrady coming back at some point.

That being said, I wouldn’t mind keeping him on a cheap deal, although I feel some desperate team would be willing to outbid us.

by oelayat on Jul 6, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I still don't understand the Ariza deal

Sure, Ariza is good at what he does, however I do think that Wafer does deserve at least a 2 or 3 year 10 or 12 million deal. At least that.

I have no idea what midlevel exception is or how it works, but Ariza only flourished during the playoffs for the Lakers.

Wafer flourished during the entire season and never failed to deliver. Well, ok, he did from time to time but so does Kobe, Shaq, and historically any other NBA player that is only human.

Wafer, in my opinion, does deserve some type of deal, and I do think his agent has a point. Remember though that this is his agent speaking. A great agent will make a player sound like a king among gods, and IMO Wafer’s agent is just doing his job.

The Rockets should do something about Wafer. We need his fire off of the bench. However, if he does indeed have a whiny attitude and an ego to match, then we need to just drop him.

Meh. Just my random thoughts.

by jasonmicron on Jul 6, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

$4-5M a year for Wafer?

Are you insane?

Luis Scola is only pulling in $3M next year.

by grungedave on Jul 6, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scola is a ridiculous bargain.

That said, Von is just dreaming of anything more than about $2.5.

"So do you keep open 3pt FG percentage?"
"Yeah, we'd have everything you'd want, Bill."
"I hate you."
Bill Simmons/Daryl Morey Podcast 5/8/09

by Xiane on Jul 6, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, Scola is an anomoly

He is worth much more than that. He definitely will not be making that measly salary when it comes time to re-sign.

by jasonmicron on Jul 7, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my take on the Ariza deal.

Houston loves lock down defenders who can cover the wings. Ariza is there to:

1. Give Shane a breather and or help lock down a SG/SF combo.
2. Run with a “running/pressing” unit I think I see forming.
3. Shoot open threes when Yao (please!) returns. And shoot open 3s on passes out from Scola, or Brooks/Lowry from penetrations.
4. See if he can’t turn into more of a scoring option. We saw that in the playoffs. Can he keep it up?
5. Learn from Shane Battier. Seriously.

He’s active, and physical, and if not as freakishly strong as Artest, he IS faster.

Whatever form the next incarnation of the Rockets take, he’s a fine complimentary player in his prime, at a reasonable price.

"So do you keep open 3pt FG percentage?"
"Yeah, we'd have everything you'd want, Bill."
"I hate you."
Bill Simmons/Daryl Morey Podcast 5/8/09

by Xiane on Jul 6, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the argument.

“Wafer flourished during the entire season and never failed to deliver. Well, ok, he did from time to time but so does Kobe, Shaq, and historically any other NBA player that is only human.”

Kobe missed a shot once so that means Wafer is the best player in the NBA.

Helpful, that. Thanks.

by Metalate on Jul 7, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope he comes back

i dont want my wafer jersey to go to waste. that would suck.

Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey

by olivarezq1 on Jul 6, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that would suck indeed

plus he torched the Blazers… so he has some value… i guess.?

knew he had scored when his skid washed ashore, and a monkey served him a frozen ... daiquiri

by Coconut Pete on Jul 7, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love Wafer

I think they need to sign him .He fits good with the Rockets I VOTE FOR WAFER

by luis scola big fan on Jul 6, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Learn from Ariza

Von Wafer, an ex-laker I might add, needs to learn from Ariza and not listen to his agent. Ariza got a few hundred thousand more to play for the Rockets, who, are no doubt of the highest quality in terms of organization and players (T-Mizzy not withstanding), but are in no way considered contenders in light of the Yao Ming injury. Ariza went from a championship team, in his home town, with a fanbase that adored him, to a new situation on a rebuilding team in a place not his hometown.

by Dodgerblue15 on Jul 6, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Von

Well-written piece. This situation will play out just like the one last year with Landry. Morey is smart enough to know this. I feel that Von will sign sometime in September, 1 yr for the veteran’s minimum, player option for the 2nd, something like that.

by cnyroxfan on Jul 6, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Money,money,money

Ariza getting the full MLE puts Rockets into Lux Tax. Anything Wafer signs for is doubled. So a $2mil contract costs the team $4mil.
Wouldn’t be too suprised if the offer to Gartat was $4mil w/rest of MLE reserved for Von. That fell thu and prob so did money allocated for Von.

by Tisbee on Jul 6, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

s&t?

Is there a possibility for a sign and trade? if so to where for whom?

by fishbonebui on Jul 7, 2009 1:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need him

Folks we are in for a shitty season. At least Von can make it less shitty with his highlight dunks. No dont say James White that guy doesnt have Vons energy or hair.

by Dudeman on Jul 7, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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