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Quick Thoughts On This McGrady-To-Knicks Trade Rumor

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Houston Trades: Tracy McGrady, Joey Dorsey, Brian Cook, 2011 pick

Houston Receives: Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries, Larry Hughes, Knicks' 2011 and 2012 picks (or Houston keeps Cook, gets Harrington)

It's just a rumor. But it's a rumor that I like. Very much so, in fact.

First, let's start with Jordan Hill. His popularity seemed to peak on draft day, and has slowly dwindled ever since Mike D'Antoni decided that he wasn't worth playing, despite the Knicks' horrible record.

Great. Send him to Houston, Donnie Walsh. We'll take that problem off your hands, thanks.

For anyone that didn't keep up with Hill since he left Arizona, here's some analysis courtesy of Seth Rosenthal of SBN's Knicks blog, Posting and Toasting.

You'd be getting a very likable, very promising prospect in Hill. In the minutes he's played, Jordan has demonstrated a solid ability to run the floor, a tireless commitment to rebounding, and an offensive repertoire far more polished than you'd expect. That includes a nice midrange jumper and some pretty advanced footwork. He doesn't have the best hands and he's given to the occasional brainfart, but I really think Jordan Hill's gonna amount to something.

Sounds promising enough to me. I wish I could comment more on the situation, but truth be told, I haven't seen a minute of Hill this season. But Hill was a lottery pick for a reason, and it's not everyday that a team can acquire a lottery pick less than one year removed from his college days. Hill is no Caron Butler or Kevin Martin, but he has nowhere to go but up. He also gives us another option at power forward if re-signing Luis Scola becomes too difficult.

As for the picks, they could turn out to be in the top ten, or they might fall out of the lottery (heaven forbid). Either way, the Rockets don't have to use a single one of them. Say the opportunity to trade for a big name comes up in the next few years. Everyone loves Knicks picks.

The only problem is Jeffries, but there's going to be that "ew, I don't want him" player in just about every deal. Moving the former Indiana star has been the Knicks' number one priority since day one of the Walsh era, and it's the only reason they'd be willing to part with a guy like Hill. Yes, Jeffries would somewhat handicap our cap situation next year, but it's not like the Rockets were going to be able to sign a max free agent anyway. They'll still have the MLE to use on a mid-tier free agent.

And even then, it's not like Jeffries is a typical Isiah Knick. TrueHoop had a nice piece on how valuable he can be earlier this year, actually.

Again, it's still just a rumor, but if it indeed plays out, I'm all for it. Harrington or Hughes are worth stomaching for one season if it means securing assets for the future.

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the nice thing about taking jeffries' contract for you guys

is that jared’s actually a pretty serviceable player. he’s a very useful help defender. just don’t ask him to hit a layup.

by Seth on Feb 15, 2010 9:09 PM CST reply actions  

big positive for us is that jeffries can block shots.

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by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 15, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Perfect match alongside Hayes.

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by RedHopeful on Feb 16, 2010 6:21 AM CST up reply actions  

And he's healthy

Ariza possibly missing next game w/hip pointer
Battier still not 100%
Lowry out for a while longer
Budinger hitting Rookie Wall

by Tisbee on Feb 15, 2010 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

well

I seriously hope this deal goes thru for only one reason, Tracy gets an opportunity, a legitimate chance to get his game back in sync. The players that we get are not going to put us in contention for a championship, and I also think it’s dumb to gameplan around another injury prone player next year. A sensible rebuilding plan via the draft is all this organization needs to focus on. Cheaper and less risk.

by DreemOlajuwon on Feb 15, 2010 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

I seriously hope this deal goes thru for only one reason

That was, like, three or four reasons.

by Only_A_Lad on Feb 15, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

How does this set us up to be better than the Lakers?

Or even the Nuggets or Mavs? This trade sucks…or are we trading just to trade here?

I just don’t see what everone is so excited about on this one.

by ReverendRocket on Feb 15, 2010 11:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

you can't seriously think that we were going to be able to do that this season or next...

I’d rather compete for the next ten years and see what becomes of it than go all-in next year and then suck for another five like the Astros are poised to. and even then, we wouldn’t financially be able to “make ourselves” better than the Lakers, Mavs, etc.

We’re not trading just to trade. We’re getting something in return for Tracy, and things that give us flexibility in the future.

Thought I made that clear in the post………..

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by Tom Martin on Feb 15, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

People are way too impatient. We’d need something like a Gasol-level trade in order to compete with LA, and well, that requires an idiotic GM willing to sell his stuff for 10 cents on the dollar as well as a smart one willing to buy, and Walsh is ultimately not stupid.
In the long term, this is really nice. Heck, even in the short term, it could help, as those draft picks and Jeffries’s contract which will expire next year will be easier to trade than McGrady’s, given the headaches they were just trying to make salaries match.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Feb 15, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

gets us rid of TMac’s whining

by RoxBeliever on Feb 15, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

To be fair...

he hasn’t whinned as of late. The last time was that cameo thing…and nothing even while we wait until the deadline.

by suzaku on Feb 16, 2010 6:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed!

Trading the trash for more trash!

by idlewatcher on Feb 16, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Do we have the Detroit Piston's 1st round pick in 2012?

This guy says we do but I cant find anything about it. Just wondering. If we do, geez. I hope the Rockets have the number 1 pick in 2012, Jon Henson would sure be nice.

by darwithabar on Feb 15, 2010 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

dunno, but go tigers!

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by Tom Martin on Feb 15, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Mizzou?

If thats what you mean im right there with you.

MIZ

by darwithabar on Feb 16, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

ZOU

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by Tom Martin on Feb 16, 2010 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t know the players. Who’s better for us—Harrington or Hughes?

by RoxBeliever on Feb 15, 2010 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/

I think this answers that question quite nicely. Hughes is a scrub, while Harrington is not. On the other hand, we can get rid of Cook if we take Hughes, but I’d still hope for Hughes.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Feb 16, 2010 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Harrington, Jeffries, and Hill are all PFs, a position where we are already loaded. I presume Harrington and Jeffries can play center if really needed. Hughes is an SG, though not a very productive one lately. Hmmm

Whether we trade Cook or not doesn’t make a big difference since he really wasn’t playing but I would have loved to see Dorsey develop.

by RoxBeliever on Feb 16, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I know

Why does dorsey have to be in the deal. He could have been our D Rodman.

by darwithabar on Feb 16, 2010 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a step toward that

Assuming the trade happens,and that’s a big assumption,the trade helps in following ways:
Gets team under Lux Tax. Money that Les doesn’t have to spend on Lux Tax is money he’s now shown he’ll spend on buying draft picks. Considering the Rockets recent draft record,that’s a good thing.
Hill is a 6’10" PF who likes to rebound,play D,block shots,run the court and mix it up inside. He’s still very raw as far as skills go,but Rocket player developement has been pretty good. Adding height directly helps against Lakers,Nuggets and Mavs.
Moving up in draft for free is a good thing,even if it’s just a few spots. Players the Rockets wanted,but were taken just a couple spots before the Rockets could draft include Brandon Roy,Rudy Fernandez,Courtny Lee.
Having an extra First is always handy for making trades in addittion to being valuable for drafting a player. Draft picks are a fairly cheap way to fill out a roster and provide talent depth to cover injuries or aging.

True that much of the real value in this proposed trade is down the road,and also true most are just happy the McGrady saga looks to be finally over and the team can move on. But the trade gives the Rockets many chances to add pieces that will set them up as a contender.

by Tisbee on Feb 16, 2010 12:09 AM CST reply actions  

all for it except

the Dorsey part.
get rid of cook
possibly trade scola
because the rockets might not be able to re sign him
and so that landry can get the starting job to advance and progress more.
Like the deal that sent alston away for lowry so the younger player can get the start.
we can have dorsey or chuck or even hill to back him up.
possibly even trade Andersen away, but definitely cook

by 3LAYTHR33 on Feb 16, 2010 1:22 AM CST reply actions  

The thing with trading Luis away right now is Landry is dynamite he can score in bunches but his defensive rebounding is bad.

With the way the Rockets want to play up tempo getting the defensive boards is very important to them, so trading Luis is gonna cause the rockets more trouble.

Plus unless Luis is going home I think his smart enough to recognize that with Yao back and a year of development of the young players the rockets stand a good chance to contend so I think he’ll be back if Morey wants him.

by Itoko on Feb 16, 2010 3:31 AM CST up reply actions  

DM not budging about trading any of our rotation guys only means we'll try to keep them next season.

If Scola opts for the big deal, I see us doing a sign and trade so at least we get somebody in return.

by RoxBeliever on Feb 16, 2010 5:35 AM CST reply actions  

i was liking the threeway deal

with us getting caron butler and brendan haywood from the wizards, tmac going to the knicks and i can’t remember who it was going to the wizards

by ravsagain on Feb 16, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

Problem is

The Mavs have a deal that’s practically done for Haywood and Butler so that’s out of the question.

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by Artest4Prez on Feb 16, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I like the fact that if this trade goes through

that the rockets got a lot bigger as well in the front court.

by mob16151 on Feb 16, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

T-Mac to NYC

T-Mac would not hurt the Knicks any, but to give up Dorsey, too. I thought we working on the future of the Rockets? T-Mac for a 2011 pick would be good enough, don’t you think?

by Mariolopezsr on Feb 16, 2010 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

Hill

OK maybe throw in Hill too.

by Mariolopezsr on Feb 16, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

trade

I would take harrington but not hughes. And please let the knicks have cook. Harrington wouls gave us another scorer and jared would help defense.

by zobra3 on Feb 16, 2010 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

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