Tracy McGrady Trade Rumor Update Thread Pt. 2
by Tom Martin on Feb 17, 2010 9:18 PM CST
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Update 13 (8:35 PM) Rockets Recruit Kings In McGrady Talks (via Wojnarowski) [...Sh-t...]
As talks with the New York Knicks stalled on Wednesday night, the Houston Rockets quietly recruited the Sacramento Kings as part of a three-team trade discussion that would deliver Tracy McGrady to the Chicago Bulls, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
In the proposed trade, the Rockets would get Kenny Thomas, Andres Nocioni, Beno Udrith and a Kings' protected No. 1 draft pick. Sacramento would acquire Tyrus Thomas, Brad Miller and Salmons from the Bulls. The deal would cleare cap space for the Bulls this summer and save the Kings as much as $15 million in salary next year.
The proposed deal was contingent on John Salmons staying with the Bulls, but that appeared in doubt with the Milwaukee Bucks expecting to complete their own trade for Salmons.
I'm thinking the Salmons deal puts this on hold. It makes no sense. The New York deal, regardless of pick protection, is far better than this. Something tells me this was never, EVER going to happen.
As talks with the New York Knicks stalled on Wednesday night, the Houston Rockets quietly recruited the Sacramento Kings as part of a three-team trade discussion that would deliver Tracy McGrady to the Chicago Bulls, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
In the proposed trade, the Rockets would get Kenny Thomas, Andres Nocioni, Beno Udrith and a Kings' protected No. 1 draft pick. Sacramento would acquire Tyrus Thomas, Brad Miller and Salmons from the Bulls. The deal would cleare cap space for the Bulls this summer and save the Kings as much as $15 million in salary next year.
The proposed deal was contingent on John Salmons staying with the Bulls, but that appeared in doubt with the Milwaukee Bucks expecting to complete their own trade for Salmons.
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at least the kings draft pick is going to be fairly high.
it wont be a number 1 but espn has their pick at number 4.
i wouldnt mind favors and if any team can affort to give a pf a little time to develope its the rockets.
that said
if we can get the knicks deal i would be much happier.
much much happier especially if the knicks are giving us an unprotected draft pick
From the Woj tweet
WojYahooNBA
As the Knicks work to secure T-Mac, NY GM Donnie Walsh still talking with Bulls on a Tyrus Thomas-Al Harrington package, sources say.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
@STEIN_LINE_HQ Just filed to ESPN.com: Multiple sources express confidence in T-Mac-to-Knicks deal before deadline despite lack of consensus on draft picks
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
it better happen.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 17, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
i prefer the Bull's deal
but the Knicks one ain’t too shabby either. I still was hoping we could get Mike Miller from the Wiz. We really lack a consistent 3pt shooter.
Is it just me...
…or are these proposals seeming to get worse as the deadline gets closer?!?
by ReverendRocket on Feb 17, 2010 10:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
john salmons was just sent to the bucks.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 17, 2010 10:13 PM CST reply actions
I'll take the Knicks deal 1st, Bulls 2nd & the Kings deal is just ridiculous! I'd keep Mac instead of the Kings deal.
Or better 3 way:
HOU gets- Miller, Hill, Jeffries, picks (unprotected)
KNICKS get- Mac,Tyrus, Cook, Dorsey
CHI gets- Harrington, Hughes
probably unlikely since the Knicks can just trade straight up with the Bulls & Miller can just expire for the Bulls but I’d like him as a back up to Yao especially since he’s played for Adelman before.
i would take this.
we get our young guy in hill and the draft pick. plus adelman loves brad miller (coached him back in SAC).
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 17, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Will the Iggy/Dalembert trade be revived?
Maybe the Rox can see if there still might be hope to do this?
by inquisitiveman on Feb 17, 2010 10:25 PM CST reply actions
i hope morey does this trade.
he should put scola in it so we don’t have to worry about resigning him next year. iggy is not a raw player, he is a scorer. yes, he is overpaid, but by getting rid of t-mac’s contract it makes it easier for les to pay him. plus we get dalembert’s awesome defense for a season. i know he is 10 million, but it is just for half a season. and maybe if we can get cook in there that will even out the money possibly. but this deal is not going to happen. it may ONLY if amare goes to miami and we dont get a deal done with the knicks. then the 76ers have no other trade partners except us.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 17, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
from rotoworld.com
Contrary to an earlier report, the deal sending Tracy McGrady to New York in exchange for Jared Jeffries, Larry Hughes, Jordan Hill, and a 2010 draft pick is not dead despite a lack of consensus on whether the draft pick would be protected or not.
It’s hard to say who may be blinking in this deal, since Houston stands to get nothing if they can’t move T-Mac, while New York desperately wants to shed salary. In any event, for those of you holding onto T-Mac in hopes he can provide some marginal value, this gives you a ray of hope as the deadline nears.
Source: Marc Stein on Twitter
Related: Larry Hughes, Jared Jeffries, Jordan Hill
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Feb 17, 2010 10:50 PM CST reply actions
NY playing hardball?
Sit on the trade and let their dreams of 2010 free agency fly away. We are in a position of strength.
I have a feeling....
Walsh saw that video of him and Morey negotiating, and he came to his senses. Either way he’s prolly going to give in and we get our unprotected picks. oh and New York has .0001 percent chance of landing Lebron especially after the Jamison trade that just happened
by fullo91 on Feb 17, 2010 11:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
that might be why the ny trade is starting to get bogged down
they arnt getting their man.
still are open to bosh
dwade aint going anywhere
oh and
New York is stupid and their fucking themselves with this deal… but hey the Rockets are benefiting from it :-)
by fullo91 on Feb 17, 2010 11:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I predict Bulls
Which means it’ll be the Knicks :)
Seriously,w/the Salmons trade,Chicago really doesn’t have a SG.
2 Trades:
McGrady for Miller,James,whatever First. (Generates $4mil TPE for Rockets)
Cook,Dorsey,(cash?) for Tyrus Thomas.
we will see whose fucking themselves in the summer
we will enjoy bosh and lebron and you guys can enjoy jeffries and a couple late round picks
JETS
go for it
i wish you the best
but i dont see it happening.
and even if it did. bosh lebron lee and the d leauge.
that isnt as good as what the cavs have right now it isnt going to be a top teir team.
good ~ cause lebron is a beast but probably wont be any better than last years cavs team
The hype is building up
It’d suck if T-Mac is still a rocket by tom night!
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Feb 17, 2010 11:26 PM CST reply actions
Update
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/sports/basketball/18knicks.html
The hangup in the McGrady deal involves two first-round draft picks that the Rockets are demanding in the trade, in 2011 and 2012. The Knicks want protection on the picks in case they fail to sign a superstar and end up in the draft lottery. The Rockets want the picks free of restrictions. The standoff began on Tuesday.
The rest of the deal is set. Houston would acquire the rookie Jordan Hill, Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries for McGrady, Brian Cook and Joey Dorsey. The Rockets want the unprotected picks as compensation for taking Jeffries, who is owed $6.9 million next season, plus a $2 million trade bonus.
Morey is not giving in
We can accept the bulls deal and still get value. Walsh however, has to get rid of Jeffries to be able to land his dream (yeah right, that won’t happen). I believe by the deadline we will have Jordan Hill and picks. We took a player whose worth absolutely nothing to the team (basketball wise) and turned him into a promising young PF and 2 potential high picks. One word comes to mind, beautiful!
Logan Loya
by twiceisnice9394 on Feb 18, 2010 12:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions
uhh..
someone on facebook is saying we just got kevin martin..ive no idea where he found it and i cant find it myself..
yea
i dunno how i feel about this trade. i liked the knicks trade since no one from the regular rotation was being moved
OMG
We shoulda took the Knicks trade. Why not Scola? I dont get it. Atleast we still have Lowry.
by darwithabar on Feb 18, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
Hmmmm
And since Martin is a SG and is plenty good to start, where does this leave Ariza?
the lakers will take ariza back
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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wtf
i wasnt hearing anything at all abt this.
maby sac things they could get lebron.
just wtf…
im not even sure i like this trade. i think landry was a big time part of our team
wow
landry may just be the best player in the deal proposed here.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
According to the Yahoo! front page, it's pretty much official
Mind=blown.
Donnie Walsh is an absolute idiot.
=(
Not LANDRY!
Why not Luis… siiigghhhhhhhhhhh
Good thing I don't go to Vegas
Has to be another move if Landry is being moved.
Hard to believe Rockets will go forward w/Scola,Anderson and Thomas as PFs.
Are you guys shitting me??
I know losing Landry (and somewhat Dorsey) sounds terrible, but isn’t Kevin Martin EXACTLY what we need?! He shoots the ball extremely well, can create his own shot, and he’s young. This sounds perfect. I hate to give up Landry but damn, this sounds great to me.
It's true
I’m still in shock right now since I was so prepared for T-Mac to the Knicks, but this trade does give us what we need. Awesome for the Rockets
landry
seems like the PF of our future..so it seems like a very future oriented dude (as i thought morey was) wouldnt just throw away landry when hes been such a beast..theres gotta more to it..
My thoughts exactly
He could actually be the piece we’ve been missing. If Yao can hold out for 3-4 more years, we could be title contenders VERY SOON.
by RedRowdy420 on Feb 18, 2010 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
but
kevin martin and yao are both injury prone :\ – i also read something on clutchfans about landry being bought out and possibly coming back to houston (as big Z most likely will to cleveland) – now THAT i’d be happy with but seems unlikely
yeah
That would never ever happen… but I guess here’s to hoping lol.
In Morey We Trust…
by vanguard117 on Feb 18, 2010 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
landry
if we could get him back then this trade would be perfect
by II Chaos II on Feb 18, 2010 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
I think everyone is missing the REAL point...
KT (Kenny Thomas) is back babY!!!
…….
……..
Could be a nice TPE too
Dorsey,Landry will get Armstrong,Rodriguez.
That leaves T-Mac for Martin and Thomas and a very nice $4.4mil TPE,which is almost another MLE for this summer.
as a kings fan
this trade is like getting kicked in the balls, then a breaking up with a girl friend, and getting a DUI on the way home to us loyal Sac fans. Martin was the only thing good about the franchise for some long seasons and I am still attached. You guys are going to love the scoring and the work ethic that he gives.
the same
For Landry. 100% every single night. That guy has a big future! Hopefully we can steal him back in a year when he becomes a free agent =)
by vanguard117 on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
Are you kidding bro.
It is not that bad. Landry is a complete work a holic and a stud. You guys will love him and he will compliement your guys young stud Tyreke nicely. I think the Kings are more of a contender now then we are.
live through the
Musselman, Theus, Natt, era and Martin was the only thing worth watching on those teams. you get attached to a player, that never complained and improved every year.
Yeah, it will take some time to get used to the change, but you can always watch Houston games just like we’ll watch how Landry adjusts over there.
You’ll get a player who gets his teeth knocked out or gets shot and still plays his heart out. He has some growing to do but you’ll love his toughness and courage.
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