Game 54: Rockets vs Pacers
by Only_A_Lad on Feb 20, 2010 7:00 PM CST
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Rockets sticking with regular starting lineup tonight. Adelman says he expects to get Martin on the floor sometime in the 1st quarter.
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Also, Kyle Lowry saw Shutter Island last night and figured it our early on.
He’s continuing to rehab and is sick of being hurt as well.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
It's weird watching the Rocket's warm up without Carl :(
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
Good interview with Martin too
haha funny comments about Battier
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
That was good - he's saying all the right things.
And I have a feeling he means it about Battier. Scorers don’t like to face him.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
Anyone reading the Knick's game thread?
They’re ecstatic about getting McGrady (who has 12 points and 3 rebounds)…i give it 2 weeks before they’re sick of him
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
My bad-3 assists....
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, an effective McGrady is not something you get tired of.
He’s filling up the scoresheet tonight. Can he do it the next game? Maybe so. I honestly hope he does well. It was obviously over here, but he’ll do his best to come back and make us look bad. And Morey himself said it, McGrady could make us look bad.
12pt/2rb/3ast/1stl – plus 2 TO – 5-10 shooting, but 0-2 from three.
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trying to watch on direct tv in houston
But cant find the game in hd. Anyone know what channel it might be iin hd?
Channel 20
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
This game feels like the start of a new session
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he came this close to dunking it-does Scola ever dunk? i don't think I've even seen that before
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
I saw one on a break one time.
I think he got a rash or something after he did it.
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Wow Scola dunking! I'd pay-a lot- to see that haha
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
kevin martin on the bench
can’t say i don’t understand why- replaces landry as 6th man
He won't be for long.
He’s a top NBA SG. We don’t have one of those. Wait we do!
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That's why we call him Speed Racer
:)
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yes I'm seeing how that nickname applies!
LOL
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
The whole team seems to be playing with an extra "skip in there step"
a lot of energy
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
That was a sweet move
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, it's great to see Luther Head
On another team.
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Now Martin can do no worse than Jamison did in his debut lol
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
Uh oh. Did you jinx him?
1-5 shooting for Kevin now.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Jitters.
I’m not worried – those are mostly open shots.
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His shooting has been a bit off since he returned from the wrist injury
especially from deep.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Nice to see Speed deferring to the veterans also
I like his personality; I think he will fit well with the other players
He's a really good guy
I promise you won’t be disappointed in him not being a “team guy”.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
yes it is
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
But effective
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
ariza to lockerroom
myb reinjured his hip?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Feb 20, 2010 8:04 PM CST reply actions
maybe we get to see jeffries play with ariza possibly out
jeffries is a good defensive player
But Ariza has been killing it since the ASG.
We need him.
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He has been playing well, but I think “need” might be an exaggeration now that we have three other wings instead of just two.
No we definately need him
he’s been playing really nice resently
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Aaron Brooks is amazing
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
It's incredable how loud the Toyota Center is...
I mean a game vs. the Pacers? For once we’ve got a packed house where everyone is there to actually see the Rockets play! Weird….
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
It was crazy loud in the playoffs.
Except the PA would crush spontaneous cheers.
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Yeah McGrady is having a ridiculously good game offensively. He isn’t playing D at all though, surprise surprise.
if there's a system that could take advantage of a multi-talented guy like McGrady
and let him fill a stat sheet its D’Antoni’s.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
good for NY to have a dilemma
will they re-sign TMac or go for two max?
I just don't know if they can do 2 Max deals and field a basketball team.
And I honestly think they’ll be lucky to get 1. And then pay TMac about $9 million.
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Friedman reports Ariza reaggravate his hip pointer, but will try to return.
But hey, get well Trevor, we actually have depth at your spot. Wow.
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Oe more Kings fan here
Kevin at the line, get used to that
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Here's a question
How is Martin as a ballhandler/passer?
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I'd say average
He has come out passing the ball much better this season. He can handle the ball the ball if needed but he’s definitely better running through screen trying to get open.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
this
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I thought.
But it’s good to ask people who watch a player a lot. For instance, you wouldn’t think that in a pinch Budinger could bring the ball up, but he could.
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he's willing
but he’s not a gifted court vision / playmaking guy.
He’s NBA average or slightly better as a ball handler I’d say for a shooting guard.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
That's fine.
We often think that Brooks would be best with an SG that’s a great passer (like McGrady for example not that they got much time on the court together), so I had hoped Martin could do that too.
But no complaints, we have an honest to God scoring SG. It’s fantastic.
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This is crazy
We can space the floor so much with this lineup. Brooks, Budinger, and Martin is awesome offensively.
Bad defense though.
3 boards and 3 assists now for KMart
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and 2 steals
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
I like what I'm seeing.
And he’s not even really practiced yet.
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His biggest flaws are obviously defense
But if you surround him by good defenders then you don’t notice it as much. I always hoped the Kings would do that.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
No but he's got 2 fouls, so Temple will probably come in
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Welcome to all Kings fans! We'll probably watch Landry play on your team too
It’s like more people will get to watch our team’s “little” secrets.
Kevin is so smooth … not bad for a first game first half
Yeah, prepare STR for the onslaught. Of course we won't break the thread like Portland.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
Kevin's taken a couple of bad shots
and missed a few he normally makes. We still haven’t seen a patented Kevin points explosion yet, since he came back from injury. Once he gets comfortable, he’s a pretty special scorer.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
I'm loving the way we're passing the ball!
Incredible!!
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
That Tempe kid looks solid on a couple of those defensive possessions
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Yeah - he came up from our D-League team - and he's looked great.
In control, smart play.
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When we have our 2nd unit with David in, we don't have interior defense
but we compensate with offense. That’s how we built a little lead with Kevin, Chase, Aaron, Shane and David
Just as we were talking about flopping earlier haha
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
That shot Martin just missed near the FT line
is his bread and butter shot, he makes 75% of those.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
good to know
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
i want to see him take it in and get those fouls if he's missing his outside shots
maybe he put in a lot of shooting before the game, that’s why he’s shooting short
he's been shooting short since he got back from the injury
He is still working on getting his shots more consistent.
Once they practice a few times this lineup will be great.
I think Martin’s presence is going to change the team’s style of play significantly. In the sense that we will run a lot more half-court perimeter stuff.
Is there anyway we can actually sign Temple after his 10-day contract is up?
I know Kyle will be back, but I love that kid!
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
Isn't two the limit for 10-day contracts? Or did they change that?
by DribbleHooper on Feb 20, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
I said that wrong.
He’s signed his 2nd 10 Day. Any further deal is for the rest of the year. I’m suspecting we keep him, seeing as Cook is gone.
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Ahh it is so weird seeing him in red!
The neatest thing about this is that the Rockets are not one of the teams I hate.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 20, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
LOL glad to hear it!!
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
and #12
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
yeah. cmon kev, at least wear like 22, or 24, or 25, or 26
by VenomySnicket on Feb 20, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
His number on the Kings was 23
so seeing him wearing 12 is strange for us
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah we know the feeling...
seeing Carl in 24 will be really strange!
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I like this lineup
with Scola at the C and Battier at the 4
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Oh, Martin can pass
nice crosscourt to Aaron
Funny you said that
Stupd Kings fans criticzed him for being “selfish” just because he was a scorer. He can move the ball,and has improved at it this year
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Key word is stupid.
He will never take more than 25 shots. Ever.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 20, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
And if he does he's probably scoring 40-45
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I don't think it's true
He has historically put up few assists, but I think that had more to do with the quality of his teammates than his willingness to pass.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
nice to know from a Kevin "watcher"
so are you really watching the game from Korea? I am from the Philippines myself.
Yeah and I'm in Argentina
lots of overseas flavors
by VenomySnicket on Feb 20, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
technically not really overseas, but you get me
by VenomySnicket on Feb 20, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
great! we have our agentinian connection too with scola
Rockets players are pretty international
Yep
have my international league pass broadband.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Watching this on about a 20 minute delay...
…but did anyone else catch Bill’s “Oh Shit!” in the 2nd quarter? I presume it got bleeped on TV, but it made it through on League Pass.
Seriously?
no i didn’t catch that..it was probably bleeped
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Good first half
very poor shooting for Kevin, but the rest of his game looked good
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
Kevin will love it here in Houston. Our players have a team-first mindset
he will get as much support and encouragement as he needs.
Now some Rockets fans can be very critical, so Trevor was often made to be the scapegoat, but as Chuck Hayes said, the players watch each others’ backs.
Knicks up!!!!
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Crowd was chanting for TMac to come back in the game earlier
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Big shot by Mac there
Knicks up 6 now.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Good really hope they win! we need OKC to loss
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, tough fight for those last few spots in the west
again.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Durant has scored 25+
in 27 straight games now
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
I dream of it. But I imagine that's all it will ever be.
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Wow Brooks took a charge...like what, his 5th of the year?
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
dang tied!
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
they should have, he would have been a hero!
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
attack the rim
draw the foul, hit the FTs
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
I like it.
Of course he’s been hot lately. There was a lot of clanking earlier in the year.
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haha
no I was referring to his hot shooting
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
lol
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Kevin drawing the foul
and to the line… again
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
FTs
Kevin: 6-6
Rest of team: 4-12
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Rockets have been throwing rocks recently.
It’s going to be hilarious with Kevin Martin and Yao shooting FT.
BTW – Landry shoots at 85%,
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Rockets are generally pretty good - Landry and Martin are equally good from the line.
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normal for the Kings
we’ve had some FT problems
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
He can certainly play it against a lot of "stretch" PF types.
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Need to get some separation
letting these guys hang around
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36 point 3rd Q for Indy
That’s not good
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It's called horrible D
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
get used to it
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 20, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I will!
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
he has the same shooting mechanics in nba 2k9, and i hate it cause I cant shoot over a taller defender with him lol
Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"
How do you make a FT with him in it?
Because I had to test the “new Rockets”.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
Absolutely.
I rewound it. He said “oh shit” earlier, check my earlier post. Twice in one day? I’ve never heard this side of him before. Anyone?
Well, time for me to switch to the Kings
Beat these Guys.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
Good having you!!
good luck to the Kings-AND CARL!
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
I'll check in with that one when the Rockets end - want to see how Landry does.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
I believe he injured his knee in his last game with the Knicks.
Probably why most teams (like the Kings did with Martin) hold their players out once they know they’ll be traded. Luckily the Rockets weren’t after him for his contributions on the court.
im just saying though
hes not a bad defender, which will allow shane to take a breather once in a while
Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"
Kevin Durant?
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
yes....with Kevin Durant
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
there goes another game
what happened to martin’s clutch?
Aaron needs clearer instructions from the bench come endgame
during the game, we can still get away with our freewheeling offense
but in the endgame, it’s lethal to make mistakes. Plus we didn’t make any adjustments on defense on Ford
wouldn't that be nice?
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
What a freaking nightmare game.
I’m sick of letting them get away.
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Well our defense was pretty much non-existant
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
Come back Kyle Lowry!
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by Xiane on Feb 20, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
bad defense, bad whistles, and a bad martin
cost us the game
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Feb 20, 2010 9:57 PM CST reply actions
Wow.
Probably most frustrating game of the season. Defense just sucked. I think I’d like to see Hill or Jeffries in place of Armstrong.
I will say if we lose tomorrow, we’re probably screwed with making playoffs.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
Maybe.
It’s going to take a few games to integrate these guys.
And I can’t over estimate how not having Lowry is hurting us.
Also, I’m not sure what you do when they all start draining 3s non stop.
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The thing is we shot 12-25 from 3 point land. It wasn’t like we were shooting bad.
We have perhaps the worst 4 + 5 in the league now
This sucked, I'm annoyed, I'm not ready to say that though.
We just moved a big part of the team, another big part is out, and we have 4 new guys.
I’m trying to stay positive.
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If Lowry is out for another week, and we play like this, we will fall out.
We can’t afford to wait a week. We have to start winning, now, and this was not a good start.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
Yes, I agree.
I hope Lowry is back soon. Temple has looked good though – like an NBA player.
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problem is systemic, not with any single player.
I still don’t understand how RA can just sit there without making any adjustments. He trusts his system too much.
But yeah, we did lose the game in the 3rd qtr when we lost that double-digit lead
Adelman is going to have to refigure what he's got and what to do with them.
He normally is still hibernating this time of year, but it’ll get sorted.
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It looks Martin wasnt' the only one with nerves...
Carl’s 1-3 FG and 1-3 in FT…I’m sure he’ll pick it up though
"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." - Sir Charles
by ressaliance_00 on Feb 20, 2010 10:06 PM CST reply actions
Aaron was actually a pretty solid playmaker tonight.
I went to the game tonight with friends (couldn’t miss the premiere), and here are some thoughts:
1. No joke, K-Mart can get to the line like crazy, his shooting was both bad and inefficient (lots of mid-range jumpers), but that’ll get better I’m sure after a couple practices. He did, however, stuff the stat sheet. 3 steals, 5 assists, 6 rebounds. If he can put up numbers even close to that on the season, this will be awesome for us.
2. Scola is going to be great, I think, over the next 30 or so games. I honestly didn’t get why he wouldn’t get 4th Q minutes in the Landry-centric 4Q era, but he was pretty solid tonight and he should be averaging something to the tune of 20-10 in 36 minutes.
3. Ariza had a great game, and was very efficient, and I really think it’s gonna continue now that he won’t feel the offense will be as dependent on him. 11 shots, I can dig that. Plus 60% from beyond the arc. Chip in 9 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks and a steal, and that is golden.
4. This, in all honesty, was a great, great game for us on the offensive end overall; however, our defense was nothing short of awful. I don’t even know if awful is sufficient enough of a word to describe what happened. Indiana’s pick-and-roll game shredded us in the second half, and it was ridiculously frustrating to watch. When the Rockets stepped up on defending the roll man, they started kicking out for 3s that eventually started falling at a ridiculous clip. I don’t know if the integration of Jeffries and Armstrong into the lineup / the return of Lowry will make a huge impact, but we need it to [on the defensive end].
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
I agree generally.
But to me Brooks looked lost again late in the 4th.
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