Game 54 - In which we meet Mr. Kevin Martin. Rockets 115 - Indiana 125
115 should be enough to win. Really, it should. 125 is too much to surrender to any team, particularly the Pacers, who have been woeful on the road. Once again the Rockets build a double digit lead, only to let it slip away. They completely failed to execute on offense in the 4th quarter. I don't mean missed shots in crunch time, I mean complete failure to move the ball to an open man, or one turnover after another and a general sense of futility on offense.
Continuing this sort of play will not lead us to the playoffs. It could lead to a lottery pick, which is not all that enticing to be honest. I'd rather test these new look Rockets in the playoffs, if that's possible.
The Rockets seem to be willing to let a team's #1 guy compile a highlight reel against them this season, with Indiana's one and only star, Danny Granger, compiling 36pts on 12-17 shooting. Honestly, he's a great player, and possibly the best player in the NBA nobody knows about. But you can't let Granger run wild AND surrender 23 to TJ Ford.
Looking on the bright side, this game might just be one of growing pains, of adjusting to a new roster and maybe more importantly, the loss of Kyle Lowry. Or it could be part of an ominous trend of late collapses that leads to the Rockets staggering to a below .500 record. I'm going to take the positive view until we see what happens when Lowry gets back - please come back soon KLow7.
Now a return of Bullet Points (The Lazy Man's Friend (tm))
- Kevin Martin - Took a lot of shots, missed a lot of shots. But almost all the shots he took were open ones, and he forced contact to head to the line on many occasions. This is a man who averages 8 trips to the line per game. He also filled up the scoresheet in other ways. He notched 6 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals. He went 8-9 from the line, and scored 14pts in 31 minutes. If we go by Martin's career eFG rate (since he took 3pters too) he'd score about 27pts on that many shots normally. For a first outing, I have to say I like what I see - which is a tall, quick, fast SG who can score a ton of points in a very quiet and efficient way. I think we're going to love him.
- The Defense - Ouch. Sure, some guys got hot on Indiana, and Martin doesn't know the rotations, but just ouch. That was miserable. We need an answer on D, and soon, but part of me is afraid it's not forthcoming.
- Garrett Temple - Looks like an NBA player. At 6'5" with long arms he's a big asset at point. I didn't see extreme playmaking ability, but I saw competence, defense, smart shots, and a general sense of belonging in the league. I expect we'll keep him the rest of the way.
- Kyle Lowry - Please come back soon! We need his defense, and his ability to spell Brooks, and the different approach he brings to the game. Brooks looks a bit tired, doesn't distribute the ball as well as Lowry, and can disappear at times. Nothing we didn't know, but once again, the inability to switch to Lowry's style of play cost us. I think Ford might not have put on such a show for family and friends with Kyle minding the store.
- Chase Budinger and the "Scoring Unit" - The Rockets played very well with a "floor spacing" squad of Brooks, Martin, Budinger, (I think) Battier, and Andersen. They just scored in bunches, and while D wasn't really in evidence, it wasn't much in evidence for the second half anyway.
- Chuck Hayes - A tough night against the genuinely talented, and genuinely 7'2" Hibbert. That's a bad matchup for the Chuckwagon. He did his best, but he wasn't allowed to play his kind of D on Hibbert or other Indy big men. Almost any poke at the ball drew a whistle, while Hibbert, and Granger, were allowed to lower their shoulders, and push off at will.
- Danny Granger - Please hypnotize Indiana and get him for us, Daryl.
- No Brian Cook - This made me sad, in a strange way. I wonder what Brian Cook will do now.
- The Other New Rockets - We didn't see them at all. Martin is familiar with Adelman's system and terminology, and will slot in quickly. I'm less sure when we'll see the others. Hopefully Adelman isn't going to wait half the year to play them, since there's only 28 games left.
- The Towel - It's too soon to throw it in, especially not with Martin joining us.
- Carl Landry - I think he's going to be beloved in Sacramento. Those are some passionate fans out there, and they'll find out how good he really is soon.
- TMac - Spotted alive, seemingly well, and playing pretty good basketball in New York City. Somehow you knew that would happen.
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1-8 from field, 2-5 FT…4 pts 7 boards in 32 minutes…struggled his first game too…dorsey played 2 min with no stats…so far with 3 min left…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Feb 20, 2010 11:57 PM CST reply actions
i like what i saw from martin.
like xiane said, he took lots of shots, but they were open and non-forced. he was just in the transition of moving teams and all of the other things. he will definitely hit a lot more shots once he gets comfortable. his defensive rotation is not quite there yet, but with him and ariza on the floor at the same time, we will get lots of steals and easy fast break points. i like the way he played with brooks. they look in-tuned, made good passes, and played well off of each other. scola getting more minutes is good. he proved to us why he is slightly the better player than landry in most cases. giant negative was that we got outscored on a 16-2 run to end the game. we made tj ford look like chris paul. we need to go back to work on defense.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
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by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 12:57 AM CST reply actions
You liked what you saw?
But did you like it as much as what you saw the first half of the season with Landry coming off the bench?
yea you could tell he was hitting a wall.
he was handling the double teams badly.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
i like what i saw because the majority of martin's shots were open.
like xiane said in the post, normally when he takes around 16 shots, it should be 27 points, not 14. he was just nervous probably, but when he is comfortable he will be fine.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
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by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Was at the game
I’m not so sure about the whole notion of Martin magically finding his shot. He looked bad out there, and it was getting worse with each shot. Check out his FG% the last five years:
2005-06: 48.0%
2006-07: 47.3%
2007-08: 45.6%
2008-09: 42.0%
2009-10: 38.9%
He’s scoring more points per game over the years, but with less efficiency. Oh, and he’s also considered to be one of the worst defenders in the entire game. Add that with a history of injuries, and suddenly the stock value of Martin doesn’t seem so high.
Why didn’t Adelman play Hill or Jeffries. JJ obviously would have improved our defense, and if Andersen is going to play 20+ minutes now, our defense is going to get worse with Martin getting lots of PT.
Oh well, at least Adelman got guys who fit in his system. Tracy McGrady’s 26 points on 10-17 shooting? Yeah… not a good fit.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 21, 2010 3:18 AM CST reply actions
I agree
Martin is not going to make much difference. Especially now that Ariza seems to have learned how to shoot. Giving away Landry, the Rockets best player this season, for Martin just doesnt look like a good trade. And giving away Tmac and the $23mm expiring contract for bench warmers and 2012 draft pick looks plain stupid. I dont understand these parrots yapping “in morey we trust” after the Artest-Ariza blunder, the Landry-Martin blunder, and the Tmac for nothing blunder.
he did a lot better than antawn jamison's 0-13 debut.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
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by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Did we watch the same game?
Aside from well, shooting poorly, which I will attribute to nervousness, Martin did pretty much everything else a lot better than I expected. He passed well, played much better defense than I expected, was communicating with the team, and his shots weren’t bad, they were just all short or something. I really don’t have a problem with how he played.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
Yeah, both of you guys (going and Gulder) are being ridiculous
It’s one game, and Martin played well despite cold shooting, which I expected coming into the game, by the way.
2.4, 4.2, 4.4, 5.4, 5.0. Those are his 3-point attempts per game. Up until this year, some of the decline in accuracy can be blamed on that. Point is, up until this year he had 4 straight years with a TS% above 60. That will do.
by seanbergmanrules on Feb 21, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Kings fan here
Kevin’s shooting percentage has going down every year because Sac keeps giving away players that take pressure off of him until he essentially became the only person opposing teams had to worry about. Now that he is on a team with players that other people have to guard and can’t just double team Kevin all the time, his efficiency get back up there.
As to the defense, yes Kevin is a bad defender but I attribute most of that to having to work so hard on the offensive end that he couldn’t give a lot defensively and to the fact that he had horrible defensive players around him. With time around players that can play good team defense, I think Kevin can learn and will grow into a solid defensive plater. Not a stopper but someone who isn’t a defensive liability.
The past two injuries were flukes and as a Kevin fan I am knocking on wood as write this in saying that unless he broke a mirror or something Kevin’s injury problems are behind him, he is perfectly healthy and lets all hope that he stays that way
You have a good player and person in Kevin… appreciate him.
some bloggers on here jump the gun way too early.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
I can see that
I guess I have been defending him for far too long that its just habit.
Try looking at Martin's True shooting percentages and his usage rates over the same stretch
2005-06: 60.4 TS%, 15.6 usage
2006-07: 61.4 TS%, 20.8 usage
2007-08: 61.8 TS%, 23.6 usage
2008-09: 60.8 TS%, 24.7 usage
2009-10: 52.7 TS%, 30.3 usage
Your FG% statistics aren’t representative of a drop in KM’s shooting; KM shot more three pointers and earned more free throws every season. Martin’s performance this year is obviously an injury related fluke.
I'll 2nd that.
I broke my hand last year, and the 2 months in a cast really weakened my wrist. I’d say it was close to 6 months (though not rehabbing like I’m sure Martin is doing) before my jump shot was back.
I also noticed
This was just one night, so maybe I’m wrong here, but it looked like his shots were simply coming up short. For the most part they were right online, but maybe didn’t have quite enough on them. Could be a sign of a weakened wrist like you said?
Yeah, that's going to take a little while.
He just got back from the injury, what, a couple of weeks ago?
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
he's been back a month
his first game back was Jan. 15
"Your FG% statistics aren’t representative of a drop in KM’s shooting"
Actually it is. The fact that he can make free throws at a high rate doesn’t change the fact that his jump shooting % has decreased in these 5 years. His 3pt shooting rate has gotten better, but not his overall % from the field.
Martin’s performance this year is obviously an injury related fluke.
Is that supposed to be some sort of an excuse? Why didn’t T-Mac get this benefit of the doubt? The fact that INJURY is affecting his shooting is a legit reason to criticize this acquisition.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 21, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
It's really kind of simple
He’s driving the lane a lot more and drawing more fouls. He’s also shooting a lot more of his shots in situations where there is contact but no foul called and hoisting a few more threes. So naturally his baseline field goal% is down. Or at least that’s what I’m getting from the Sac guys. True shooting percentage really is the barometer we should be using for him and that has been stellar
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Brooks
while the box score probably won’t show it, he was completely destroyed by former Longhorn T.J. Ford. It was embarrassing just to watch it. Not only did Ford single-handedly lead the Pacers’ comeback, he demoralized AB. Pretty much gave him a taste of his own medicine.
Yeah, I miss Lowry. I’d like to see Lowry and Martin starting in the future.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 21, 2010 3:22 AM CST reply actions
Serious question
If Artest, Tmac and Landry had played against Indy last night instead of Ariza, Martin and that bunch of duds warming the bench, don’t you think the outcome would have been better for Houston? Houston can’t defend — Artest is in midst of a serious run at defensive player of the year (and he can score!) When Tmac had the surgery, they estimated that he would return to action if Feb. Well, he returned to action in Feb. And for the first half of the season, Landry was the Rocket’s best player. How are all those bench duds gonna replace him?
Artest on this team would be a disaster.
Seriously, go check out what happens when he’s the leader of a team in Sacramento or post-brawl Indiana – he starts going crazy, and this time, not in the good way. With Yao out, we weren’t winning a championship anyways, so you think long-term and sign youth. And it’s not like Artest wouldn’t have chucked too.
And sure, Artest can defend when he has two massive bigs guarding his back and a lack of a need to carry the team offensively, but did you watch him in the playoffs? Battier was a far superior defender throughout.
I liked Artest while he was here and initially wanted to keep him when the 2008 season was over, but the minute Yao went down for the whole season, I knew he was done here.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
seriously. gulder, you're so dense
everybody’s moving on, including Artest, TMac and Landry, and you’re still stuck. Artest chose to leave, TMac wanted to be the coach and GM (look at D’Antoni following TMac’s lead, that’s the only way they will get along).
Landry, well, Landry was a sacrifice to improve the team in the SG position. it was a judgment call by management. was it a risk? sure, every trade brings its own risk. but haven’t Morey’s player assessment methods brought us enough hidden gems to warrant our trust and patience?
we see problems with the present team. give the new guys and the coaches time. you can’t expect martin to get comfortable right away, the game was his first ‘practice’ with the team
by RoxBeliever on Feb 21, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You must be the guy who tells kids there is no Santa, too.
Dude you are the ultimate the glass is all the way empty guy, it’s one game. Yes, if Tracy could play and keep his attitude right and Ron could focus and play an entire game it would be great, but these two thing will happen when unicorns roam the earth. Ron left and Tracy checked out mentally long ago.
This move made all the sense in the world, first of all. Artest signed with the Lakers, Tracy is a cancer on every team he plays for, (He’s perfect for D’Antoni’s dribble and jack up a jumper offense, he love to hog the ball and shoot bad jumpers.) We missed Landry last night, our chemistry was off and will be for a few games, but this move will make us better in the future. The guys on the bench don’t know our system, be patient, this isn’t pickup basketball. You don’t just pick the best player and put them on a team and they beat everyone, just ask Team USA Basketball.
About what I expected
New situation and environment. Even though they say he “knows” Coach Adelman’s offense, he wasn’t going to just come in and light it up. There will be an adjustment period.
The sky is falling over at Clutchfans…
man, Clutchfans is always like that, I try to avoid that site after a loss
you’d think our whole team was marching to hell with the way they act, I say give it time!!
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by ressaliance_00 on Feb 21, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
It is the price one pays for size
Popularity creates good (CF has a lot of great content) as well as bad.
We’re not immune to it, either.
That’s part of it, but it’s also the price you pay for poor moderation. I post on a much larger, more active forum than ClutchFans, and while it has its share of fools, the proportion is much smaller and the people within it are much quieter, because the moderators are much less tolerant of idiocy and that attitude has passed on to the rest of the community.
Yes, indeed, very sad to see Cook go...
8. No Brian Cook – This made me sad, in a strange way. I wonder what Brian Cook will do now.
Rocket’s wouldn’t even want to send him down to the D-Leauge… (he’s not even good enough to be a brench warmer for D-Leauge???) that’s just sad…….
how much he got for the buyout/wavied from Rockets? anyone know?
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
he was waived
so he received his full contract. $3 million for the year.
I still don’t understand why everyone hates the guy. He sucks, but that’s not really a reason for people to actively hate him.
i had see how he plays....
all he did is standing outside waiting for the ball falls into his hand; once the ball got to him (magically). he just shoot like it’s a hot potato….
yeah, i saw him dunk, and layup, but only if no1 else near the rim. like he’s afriad of contact or something….
and finally, I got $3 million to hate him……
enough said, i am off the soap box now.
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
and finally, I got $3 million to hate him……
You’re not paying him. And his salary got us Kyle Lowry.
while I see your point, couldn’t ROCKET got better things to do w/ $3 million? (that’s how much Budlinger worth from Detroit); and I don’t pay him directly, but my ticket/cable TV should making their pay to his paycheck one penny at a time.
and I never meet him personally, and this is not from a pure personal experience, but as a rocket fan, nothing more hateful than seeing a $3 million benchwarmer and ball hogger…..
REALLY? am I feel that way? should I apologize to Mr. Cook?
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
we hate him because he was a douche for picking up the 3 million option at the beginning of the year.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
So is Jared Jeffries going to be a douche when he picks up his $7 million option this summer?
When you sign a marginal NBA player with a player option far greater than what they could get on the open market, you don’t treat that as an option, you treat it as another year on the contract. Orlando and Memphis (and Houston) knew this when we traded for Cook, that’s why they had to throw in Lowry. NY and Sac (and Houston) knew this when we traded for Jeffries, that’s why they had to throw in Hill and picks.
You can yell at Cook for being a “big man” that lives outside the 3 point line, but it’s not fair at all to ask a person who probably will never see that much money again (after all, he does kinda suck) to give away $3 million.
all of us knew before the year he would pick it up.
he knew he wasn’t going to get any playing time, but then again his career is over unless memphis signs him.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Basketball is Cooks business, his job. I really doubt any of us would leave $3 million lying around fir the glory of our employer if we had a perfect legal right to it.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
by Xiane on Feb 21, 2010 12:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There is no chance on earth that any human wouldn't have picked up that option
And let us not forget, even more than getting Kyle Lowry (ok not really more) Brian Cook will always have a special place in my heart for allowing the Rockets to get rid of Rafer Alston
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rafer leaving evens it out i guess.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 23, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Kevin
Martin wasn’t guarding Granger. Martin wasn’t guarding TJ Ford. Martin’s mediocre,poor,bad defense wasn’t the problem.
The Rockets scored 115 points,25 in 4Q . The team not scoring late is a problem,but if you put up 110+ points thru 44 minutes of basketball at home against a team losing 60% of its games,you should be enjoying a blowout.
thank you, finally someone with a good recap.
martin had 3 steals and a block. he was slow on rotations but it did not kill us like our team defense did.
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Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Mainly because we were slow getting back, in my opinion. We let them outrun us and catch us before our defense was set far too often. After a few day’s rest, nobody should be able to do that to our team—we’re supposed to be the ones winning because we hustle.
tj ford torched us so badly.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
All these guys coming home to Texas do that, it seems.
Aldridge was all world in the last game with the Blazers.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
missing t-mac yet
26 pts 5 reb and 5 ast. in 32 mins
ummm
2 points in the 4th quarter and ot? of course i dont miss that magician
by aaronscolandry on Feb 21, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha, it was his first game of playing that many minutes in a long time
and that’s the criticism you can come up with? How about you give us something reasonable.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 21, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Saw the game
FYI – Mac played 32 secs in OT and only played about half of the 4th. Unlike the 10 mins and out program he did in Hou, he played in 5 min intervals THROUGHOUT the game. After the first few minutes of the game he looked exhausted, but after his 1st break, he seemed fine. Contrary to the jedi mind belief of some, T-Mac can still play. He still looked like same guy we USED to know and love in Houston, and his passing ability is wonderful. Also, “the threat” of T-Mac is still there, judging by the opposing teams attn to him, which does wonders for his ‘mates. He also still gets respect he got from the refs. I’m not saying fans don’t have reasons to gripe about Mac, and he may not be LeBron, but he is no Brian Cook either. 26-5-5 in 32 mins (hmm, sounds VERY familiar in Hou) is nothing to sneeze @.
by Agent D0uble-Barrel on Feb 21, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think anyone said TMac could never play, or play again.
It’s interesting to note, though, that he looked ready sometime after the ASG. The time that most people actually expected him back. Not in October.
Also, I’ve said this before, TMac was not going to dictate the minutes he played here. In New York, sure, why not? What do they have to lose this season? Why wouldn’t D’Antoni let him do that?
He asked for a trade, he got one, to where he wanted to be. We got a guy who I think is going to put up the same numbers for a lot less. Maybe TMac will sign for the veteran minimum, but I’ll believe it when I see it. It was pretty clear that his run in Houston was over, though, and we had to move on.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
Kings fan here...Martin will be better than what you saw yesterday
pre-injury and when he had his form early this season he was on the way to being an all-star or at least in the discussion…it is just the first game with a new team. Most players have a hard time with the first few games on a new team because they are thinking too much and so are the players around them instead of reacting. Thus, shots tend to be short and players are out of rhythm. Martin will come around as will Landry for the kings and hopefully this will be a good deal for both, as both traded from their strengths – the Rockets (with Yao) have more front-court depth and the Kings have wings – for their weaknesses.
I've noticed that TJ Ford has really improved
his perimeter shooting the past couple of years. He will be an All Star one day.
I love me some TJ Ford
Unfortunately his All Star chances aren’t going to happen because Indy refuses to use him properly and he kept getting hurt early on in his career
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i would not mind grabbing ford somehow if we cannot resign lowry.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 23, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions

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