Rockets Positional Comment 2009-2010
This is part of a (believe it or not) longer piece I'm working on. I decided to break it out to help along discussion. I just couldn't take any more threads that feature that four letter word: B O S H. I'd rather talk about what we have, not pie-in-the-sky. Feel free to disagree, or agree, but state your case. I am assuming we re-sign Lowry and Scola.
Rockets by Position:
1. PG – There are only two possible cavils here. Brooks and Lowry aren’t tall, and can therefore give up points to the, what, 3 tall PGs in the league. On the other hand, Brooks is emerging as an elite scoring point, with the ability to burn the opposition with 3pters, mid-range pull-ups, and drives into the lane. Now that he’s "established" as a player I expect he’ll get more calls when driving. Also, about 3 guys in the league can hope to stay in front of him. His assist rate isn’t that bad, and he could turn pro in bowling as well. Makes at least one "holy crap!" shot per game.
Speed Racer actually shoots a couple of different shots – people say he doesn’t elevate on shots, but he does, when he’s open. Otherwise he uses a set shot to fake and drive, or draw a foul where the shot goes up almost no matter what. His shot may look a little odd, but it works fine, and that's what matters.
His D, well, let’s see how it is after a summer and training camp. There were claims that he just didn't play D in Sacramento, but I think defense is more of a team thing, and it often looked like nobody was playing D in Sacramento. In Houston "Thou Shalt Play D". I think that's inscribed on the pedestal of the Olajuwon statue in front of the TC. You may be bad, but by God, you're going to try.
*Yes, it was an improvement to have Ariza over Artest. Setting aside the fact that Artest chose to sign with LA rather than Houston, Ron Ron would have been a horror show this year without Gasol, Odom and Bynum to bail him out on the many, (many) guys blowing by him. He’s strong, and clever at defense, but he’s no longer fast enough to contain any player faster than average. He only bothered Durant because the refs sometimes turned the Way Back Machine to 1994 when it came to Artest/Durant (for reasons best known to David Stern. And Durant still got to the FT line roughly 700 times.)
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look at his advanced numbers
LOL
I too am excited about Jordan Hill. So active
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on May 11, 2010 2:48 AM CDT reply actions
nice
to see there’s someone NOT crazy about Bosh…
and european basketball can indeed be “harder” than the NBA
Oh I like Bosh well enough.
I just don’t think he’s coming here. Morey may prove me wrong, but I don’t think so.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I think the Rockets are similar to the Cowboys here
OK, seriously though, this is good stuff. I still think the Rockets have to fill that third point guard.
Also, remember that Scola got into foul trouble a lot as a rookie, too. Give Andersen some time, and hopefully if he has Scola’s work ethic he can learn from this season and come back next year like Luis did in his second season.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
We're gonna need a bigger TV.
I think Andersen will get better next year. He’s going to work on extending his range a little, and the offense is generally there.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Thanks.
UofA was seriously weird the past few years.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Also:
I think it’s “the Yaos went and had a baby”
by Moondebah on May 11, 2010 7:10 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I had hopes for Andersen, too
but he’s one dimensional and foul-prone. I see him being packaged as part of a bigger trade this summer. Scola he is not…
Maybe so on the trade.
But as a 3rd/4th (counting Hayes) center? I think Andersen adds value.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
What I do not understand
Your piece is a good evaluation of the present talent the rockets currently have but what I do not understand and what the rockets refuse to address is the fact that both Yao and Martin can not and have not stayed healthy, therefore you have two players that are your starters Yao has played in 54% of the games in the past three years go back four years and that percentage increases to 55%. His career ppg is 19.1. It is not a matter of if he gets hurt but a matter of when and for how long, and still the rockets answer for this sinerio is CHUCKY HAYES. Instead of playing Yao say the 2nd and 4th quarters and have a center where there
isn’t a huge drop off talent wise and where the rockets are not forced to play catch-up when
Yao comes back in, the rockets rather play Yao the whole game every game until he goes out with a injury. Enough said of Yao lets take a look at the great sg Martin everyone is so high on. In his six season he has played in only 72% of the games played. In the last three seasons he has only played in 64% of the games played. Each of the past three years have been less games played than the previous year, 61,51, and 46 this past year. His career ppg
is 17.4 his back-up, is taylor. The rockets know they aren’t getting 19.1 points out of Hayes and like Yao it is not a matter of if but when and for how long with Martin as well, so are the rockets confident that taylor will be able to average Martin’s 17.4 ppg? What happens if they are both out and they’ve traded away our young talent and given away our draft picks to get
Bosh? How will this make the rockets serious contenders for a championship?
Have not stayed healthy? Sure. Can not? Well, why not?
I’m not terribly optimistic about Yao, but he also gets an 18 month rest between seasons when he probably hasn’t had more than 2 or 3 months since he was 16. And he’s been fine until he breaks something, which last year took the entire season. What’s to say he’s not less injury prone now that he isn’t playing year round?
As for Martin, his major injuries have been a nagging strained groin and a sprained ankle that he came back too early from, and a hairline fracture in his hand. None of these are related injuries, and 2 of the 3 became issues precisely because his team rushed him back because they were screwed without him. Actually, he kind of reminds me of Battier, who also has had things like an ankle sprain nag him all season because we made him play on it.
I got to agree with rocketsfn
It is really only a matter of time before injury bites either Martin or Yao or both… We need to prepare for that.
We are solid at every other position under the current roster but those two places: SG and C.
If we can pick up a good draft pick to back one or the other up then great (but hard to get one ready day one like Jennings or Lopez etc…) but to trade away either Scola or Hill with others included (Shane/Bud/draft picks) to pick up a “star” like Bosh, Jefferson, etc… I just don’t think that really improves things. I think I saw somewhere some mentioning both Scola AND Hill going for a trade for a PF like Bosh, then who is the backup PF? Chuckwagon? bad idea.
Probably better to just pick up solid backups for both at less dollars and draft a big rookie who will take time but eventually could turn into a franchise C in the future
Remember
the shoulder injury to Martin this year was probably caused by his inability to lift weights in the offseason because of that hand(?) injury last season.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Injury replacements
If the Rockets go into season as-is,the Rockets do have injury replacements on hand that they didn’t really have last yr.
Hill would move into starting C and Bud would move into starting SG spot. Not exactly Yao and Martin,but very serviceable replacements. Esp given that Hill has several inches on Chuck,can block shots and can actually score around the basket.
Yeah, but it’s only a matter of time before injury bites anyone in the NBA (except AC Green). I totally agree that we need another “big” center and we could use another pg/sg combo (we’re set at sg/sf combos), but I don’t think that Martin’s injury history is such that he can’t stay healthy. Past performance isn’t always an indicator of future returns. Unless you’re 7’6" and your body isn’t meant to run.
Well
It’s hard to find players who are both elite talents and always healthy. There are only a few. DWade is going to get a max deal this summer, but he’s not been much, if any, healthier than Martin. And hey, Grant Hill has been healthy almost 3 years now, so who knows (we may need to kidnap some Phoenix people, though).
I also think the Rockets will be drafting a big man as a Yao backup/contingency.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Let not also forget
that Yao has just had the proceedure that Big Z had. He always had troubles with his feet until then and since has had no issues, so hopefully it works for Yao
Shane it's time to shave that creepy 'stash
Sounds great
Every team depends on players remaining healthy so the Rockets are no different in that area. I don’t really agree about Jordan Hill but I hope I am wrong. I am anxious for next season ….. but I still like to hear those stories about somehow adding Bosh to this mix without giving up Yao, Scola, Brooks or Lowry.
Adding Bosh would be great
But you have to balance the costs, and the fact that he’s really poured it on in a contact year. Also I’d say that not wanting to play in Dallas does not equal an endorsement of Houston.
As for Hill, I really liked what I saw of him, and think that what’s missing are post moves, and those the Rockets can teach – that and better defensive rebounding technique.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Thanks
for posting something besides the 4 letter trade word. I would actually love to see this team as is with Yao. If any trade costs too much, I say no go. Agree with Morey on Hill. He could be scary good with a little coaching help.
Artest….can’t wait to watch him lose the Lakers a game in the WCF by thinking he got his 3 shot mojo back just because he hit a few in Utah :)
You know the Artest game is coming.
But I’m not sure how much he plays vs PHX. Who is he guarding, and would he be quick enough to do it? I might try him on Richardson if I was LA.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
He actually
might give JRich some problems but he would have to stay on him to do it and not get sucked in on help with Steve/Amare pick and roll because he can’t close out as fast as Stevie can pass out to JRich.
We really need a 3rd PG next year
If Brooks or Lowry goes down, we need someone better than the players we had last year

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