Chucks numbers are really impressive for a guy his size. Especially when you put the turnover percentage into account. Secondly lord god almigty JermaineO’Neal was maybe just a tad over payed. Finally, I want me some Roy Hibbert.

deserves a raise.

Didn’t Chuck have like 21 rebounds and 10 pts while holding Jefferson to 21 pts through 2 and a half overtimes?

I would say he is pretty beastly, but thats not saying anything productive.
Jeff Gordan could out drive me with a blindfold on but if im in a ferrari(assuming i could drive it) and hes in a civic it doesnt really matter.

Hays is cheep, and good for his size, but I dont know if that makes him good.
I dont think the post gives enough information to really say he is/isnt a good defender.
All i really got out of this is he doesn’t stop his man very often but on the times he does stop him he is slightly better than average at forcing a turn over.
Please explain to me what in the above post exactly suggests he is a good defensive player?
As for value. If I played in the nba for a dollar and caused a guy to miss 1/10 times per stop id be the cheepest person in the league. Still doesnt make me a good basketball player.

I dont think they consider him a defensive threat.

Btw im just going off defense here. I know little about passing and all that good stuff

I put the numbers into an excell sheet.
If you look at points allowed( chances*score%/100) chuck hays has the second highest amount of points allowed at 130.8 trailing only david lee.

In chucks defense. He scored 5th on the points stopped( chances*(1-score%/100)
with 156 points stopped

for value i looked at point differential / million payed.( (points stopped-points allowed)/salary)
and hays once again ranked 5th.
( If anyone was wondering scola ranked second to last in front of Dejuan Blair)

The top 5 were
Al hortford
Kendrik Perkin
Brook Lopez
Roy Hibbert

but defense, what Chuck does is only half or less a % of the game.
He is awesome at that but we would probably be better served with someone slightly worse defensively and more potent offensively. I think there are probably PF’s out there that fit that bill that are as cheap as Chuck…..but we would still then be missing the comic relief at the free through line. But the guy has heart…which can never be overrated. If we are going to be super competitive next year (a big if with health issues) we will need as much heart as we can get….If we got ride of Chuck on top of Landry we will miss them in the close games when heart matters
go rockets

and unmeasurable part of his game is how he quarterbacks the team defense. From his spot in the paint he can give his teammates heads up. Besides he sets a bar on effort and commitment to D that is contagious to other players.

That’s less than 4 iso’s a game. For most of the players it’s barely 3 iso’s a game. Suggests either a lack of low-post offense,or that teams routinely double in the low post.(After watching the Knicks after the McGrady trade,it’s easy to see why Lee has so many iso’s against him-the Knicks are horrible defensively and never help out on D.)

Consider all the times Bill and Clyde whined about the Rockets not doubling,it suggests either the team has great faith in Chuck defending 1-on-1,thus allowing the rest to stay close to 3pt shooters and that was the strategy-or the defense collapsed and players lost their assignments and didn’t drop down to help. Given the Scola chances,it’s more likely the team had/has great faith in Chuck defending iso’d in the low-post.

Re the Chuck is a good defender buzz,Adelman has stated on numerous occassions Chuck is either the best,or when particularly peeved,the only big man defender on the Rockets. Secondly,Morey and crew are huge into analysis and they’ve had several yrs worth of data on Chuck. If they didn’t think he was a very good defender they wouldn’t have re-signed him,esp considering his lack of offense.