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An open letter to the City of Cleveland

Dear Cleveland Sports Fans,

did you expect anything different?  Your GM is Danny Ferry.  Your coach is Mike freakin' Brown.  Your team hasn't made one decent draft pick since 2003.  Every free agent they have signed has been disappointing.  Mo Williams had half a good season and then quickly faded.  Antawn Jamison is good but he's never been in a position to win it all, not even at UNC.  Beyond LeBron James there was nothing all that exciting about your roster.  Average-to-above-average players, sure, but the construction of that roster would have failed Daryl Morey's standards a long time ago.

But the worst offense?

You put faith in this man:

Shaquille O'Neal... the fat guy in the middle there.  No, the other fat guy.  The taller one.

With no Kobe or DWade to cover for him... the FatAss was never going to deliver a ring.

Oh, and in the meantime and until proven otherwise, LeBron = Michelle Wie.

Eric Cartman would now like to drink your tears, Cleveland..........

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It's amazing to me how many people turned on Lebron unfairly

He might leave and that’s why the fans showed him all the hostility in Cleveland but I mean someone else needs to step up when Lebron isn’t playing, and no one did plain and simple. He actually accomplished something with Cleveland by taking them to the finals and making them contenders almost by himself.

If Lebron had better players to play with then there probably will be a different outcome. Kobe needed Shaq in his prime and Gasol, Mike needed Pippen, Lebron needs someone better to play with. I wouldn’t be surprised now if it is easier for him to leave home.

by Rockets4LIFE on May 14, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Just goes to show

That one player doesn’t win a Championship, an entire team does. Kobe couldn’t do it without all of the support he gets. Nash couldn’t do it either. Or Yao (obviously).

I agree with everything grungedave said. I still can’t believe that they traded for Shaq. Hell, I still constantly forget he’s (was) even on their roster.

by jasonmicron on May 14, 2010 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

instead

They shoulda signed Robert Horry. Just sayin’…

by grungedave on May 14, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand

the organization giving into LeBron’s demands (for a big man), but that was just a bad call all around.

Daryl Morey never would have let that happen. Ever.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on May 14, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course

if Morey had been with the Cavs for the last five season, they’d have 10 championships.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on May 14, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah?

How did the Rockets do this year? You are doing the same thing with Morey that everybody in Cleveland did with Lebron. You are counting the chickens before they hatch. Morey has not won anything yet.

by Gulder_Roy on May 14, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa buddy

slow your roll. Yes, the Rockets didn’t make the playoffs this year, but that doesn’t change the fact that I am saying that Daryl Morey is better than Danny Ferry (fact).

I know he hasn’t won anything yet. Hence, the 10 championships in 5 years comment. It was a joke.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on May 14, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Let’s see how Ferry does with half a payroll. Morey made a trade to get better now (Martin) and for the future (draft picks + Hill) AND got under the luxury tax.

Ferry got Jamison for a draft pick and in exchange he got what? A PRODIGOUSLY bloated contract for multiple years and a couple 20pt games? Congrats. Ferry is gonna have a hard time fixing that roster with all the money he has locked up for years to come on mediocre players that don’t come through when it counts.

by jroberts5 on May 14, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think the letter sounds a little classless directing it to the cleveland sports fans.

by pweco113 on May 14, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

"classless"

That’s kind of my specialty, so, uh, thank you.

being classy is overrated and is reserved for losers.

by grungedave on May 14, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Celtics just better

It wasn’t Lebron. It was the Celtics. They were just better. Better team and better coach. All the yapping about Lebron doesn’t make much sense. Everybody really knows the truth - he is the best basketball player in the world. I wonder if all the Morey faithfull still think that he skinned the Knicks. Right now, the Knicks are exactly where they wanted to be. They are the favorite to get the best player in the world and along with him more will come. I mean, if Lebron does go to NY, a lot of others will want to play there so filling out a team won’t be the problem. the problem will only be the coach, who is expendable in a hurry if Lebron doesn’t like him.

by Gulder_Roy on May 14, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on May 14, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Knicks...

are longshots at this point, especially if it becomes a sign-and-trade situation. I imagine the opportunity to play in New York holds appeal, but there isn’t much else going for that franchise.

I agree with everything else you said: the Celtics were damn good.

"The French Army: Better defender than David Lee" - JE Skeets, in response to David Lee getting a vote for Defensive Player of the Year.

by flipasta on May 14, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

I will beg to differ on that best basketball player in the world thing. I saw DWade beat the Celtics single handedly. And, I would bet if you gave him LB’s cast, he could have done 3 more times.

And yes, the Celtics are a damn good basketball team.

by svspider on May 15, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think if Lebron stays in Cleveland and takes less money

he could probably persuade Bosh or Johnson to come there. Z and Shaq’s contract expired already. I think this coming season is Jamison’s expiring contract. They said on Espn last night the Cavs can offer Lebron 6yrs/125mil or 5yrs/96mil. I think he should take less than 15mil/yr to allow the Cavs to pursue a Bosh or Johnson. Then again, that doesn’t solve their position at center. They still need a big man.

by inquisitiveman on May 14, 2010 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Contracts

Jamison has two more years for $28 million, Mo has 3 more years at $8.5 million, Varejao has 5 years left with $7-10 million a year, Gibson is getting over $4 million to ride the bench, they took on Telfair’s $2.7 contract next year for Jamison. West, Moon, and Parker are making over $10 million combined. The Cavs do not have enough room to sign another max contract guy

Lebron isn’t signing for less than $15 million a year, especially when Kobe’s gonna be making over $100 million over the next four years

by jroberts5 on May 14, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

REALLY?

Not saying Wade isn’t a good ballplayer, but I have to ask: Why?

"The French Army: Better defender than David Lee" - JE Skeets, in response to David Lee getting a vote for Defensive Player of the Year.

by flipasta on May 14, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a much better and more reliable perimeter shooter

and he can drive to hole also. Lebron still doesn’t have a consistent midrange jumper. Maybe he will one day, but the Rockets have 2-3 yr window to win a title. We can’t wait for LBJ to develop one. We need someone who already has one. This is factoring in that i think Yao only has 2-3 good years left.

by inquisitiveman on May 14, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got to say, I love Wade too.

He is about as good of a player, but with slight differences, but without the hype and drama. He simply works his ass off and sacrifices his body on a bad team. He is much more of a Rockets type of player: hard working, scrapping, (relatively) humble. He doesn’t pull the shit like Kobe pulled demanded to be traded etc…and is not so “cavalier” about everything and assumes he deserves it all

by John P on May 14, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone has their opinions, but this is just ridiculous

I have no problem with anyone who says “I like DWade better” like John P below. Fair enough, some people value certain personality traits.

(Wade) is a much better and more reliable perimeter shooter

Seriously, I hate to come down so harsh but are you kidding me? Wade is a great basketball player, but he is not a good shooter. Lebron isn’t either, he’s easily been the superior player.

First, to dispel the insane notion of DWade as a shooter:

Dwyane Wade this season:
10-15 ft FG% = 34%
16-23 ft FG% = 36
3P% = 30

Lebron’s stats are a little better (but not much). But when it comes down to it, Lebron uses slightly fewer possessions and gets more points. In fact, he’s better at getting to the basket and finishing.

Not to mention that Lebron is a far superior rebounder and assist man, he’s three years younger, and doesn’t have Wade’s injury history. And I’ll leave out Wade’s (somewhat undeserved IMO) reputation as a passing lane defender.

Saying Wade has more heart or a better personality or whatever, I can live with (though I’d disagree). And I’m not saying that Wade isn’t an elite guard, cause he is. I’m just saying between Wade and Lebron (so far), it hasn’t been close.

"The French Army: Better defender than David Lee" - JE Skeets, in response to David Lee getting a vote for Defensive Player of the Year.

by flipasta on May 15, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay

I like DWade better in every way. AND, I am wondering how his shooting percentages might improve if everyone in the arena didn’t know that he was the only one in a Miami uniform who could hit the freakin basket with a ball.

As for defense, I watched DWade in the Olympics when he actually had a team around him and the guy was a maniac on defense.

I would take DWade over LBJ because he gets the team thing and he is probably the lowest maintenance superstar I have ever watched play.

by svspider on May 15, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No argument here

The guy plays like a beast on D when it counts. He’s just had this Allen Iverson-esque, sell out his teammates for the steal, BS deal going on in years past. I haven’t seen him as much this year, but I’ve heard he’s cut that shit out of his game to the point where his making the All-Defense Second Team was actually legit. Honestly, you seem like you know more about that than me.

Look I’m not saying he’s not elite, but the guy can’t shoot. Never could, no matter who his teammates were. That doesn’t mean he’s not a great scorer, but there’s a difference.

"The French Army: Better defender than David Lee" - JE Skeets, in response to David Lee getting a vote for Defensive Player of the Year.

by flipasta on May 15, 2010 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Overall...DWade is a better player...

i still trust his perimeter shooting much more than Lebron though not great, especially in the clutch.

by inquisitiveman on May 15, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

even if he is slightly less talented and I don’t even know if I think he is, just differently talented, He is the better choice for that reason.

by svspider on May 15, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lbj & bosh

Everyone in Houston seems to believe Bosh is the answer to Houston’s championship run.
Has anyone crunched the stats of Bosh and LBJ? Reason I ask is that I looked up both their
salaries for this past season and they are identical 15,779,912. I for one don’t believe Houston will get either one but if they can get Bosh which seems to be believed by many then why not LBJ?

by rocketsfn on May 14, 2010 11:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Totally true

I don’t think anyone is arguing that Bosh is better than Lebron. Its just that there is reason to believe that Bosh would be interested in Houston, but theres been no such indication from Lebron. You’re right though. Its all speculation.

"The French Army: Better defender than David Lee" - JE Skeets, in response to David Lee getting a vote for Defensive Player of the Year.

by flipasta on May 15, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to be annoying, but is there anything at all from Bosh himself?

Or anyone associated with him? All I’ve seen is that one Stein item, with no sources cited. I mean, I’m sure Houston is interested, but that’s probably as far as it goes.

But you guys are right, a max deal is a max deal – why act like Bosh costs less than LeBron?

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by Xiane on May 15, 2010 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

He costs less

but not in dollars. LB, while exceptionally talented, has only one rival in the current NBA for high maintenance headache factor and even Kobe is slacking off in that area.

We just got rid of a talented high maintenance player who thought he could dictate to the franchise and it couldn’t do it without him.
I am not a TMAC hater, I liked him. But I am not really up for another round of high maintenance superstar drama.

by svspider on May 15, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too!

With LBJ, it’ll be another round of it’s on me’s. I’d dread the team being written off as lebron and the lebrockettes. Honestly!

by raong on May 15, 2010 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

"lebron and the lebrockettes"

Pretty freakin’ funny!….I think LBJ wants it all delivered to him on a silver platter because he may be the best player on the court. Thats BS and quite frankly I would rather win without him and his inflated expectations/ego.

The Dream may have been the best center in the game when we won it all, and maybe even the best NBA player when Jordan was taking a break from bball (hiding his gambling) but the Dream was/is a selfless star that earned your love every day playing as a team. He has basically Shane’s personality, but with incredible basketball awesomeness in every category (how else to you explain the Dream’s abilities?). We (and really every team) needs a player like that.

If you take the best players in the game today: Kobe, Lebron, Bosh, Wade, Howard, Rondo, C. Paul, Durant, Roy etc… It seems to me that very few have “Dream-ability” From that list, Wade, Durant, and Roy make the top of the list has hard working good guys who let their game speak for themselves. You need a team to win a championship, they have to have skills to win but they also have to want to win together, to play for each other and not let each other down.

Who would you rather play hard for, Wade or LBJ.

(Granted Durant is the best of all (being a Longhorn and all) but he is not a free agent this coming year. Durant and the Durantulas is almost as funny as Lebron and the Lebrockettes)

by John P on May 16, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys may be right when you say they are both cry babies, but thats about the only thing they both have in common. I for one was happy to see stevie franchise francis shipped to orlando and at that time seven years into his career (the same amount of years lbj currently has in the nba) tmac had played in 85% of nba games, but in the next six years he would only play in 66% of games. In Tmacs first seven years he averaged 20.63ppg When looking at LBJ he has played in 96% of NBA games played and his seven year ppg average is 27.8
Seems to me LBJ not only shows up to play but puts up 7 more points per game. When TMAC finally was put on a team with talent around him he could not stay healthy. Was this
his fault for not conditioning himself or just bad luck? Who cares the rockets proved they could win without him and yao. Now if management would just admit that Yao as good as he is is only a part time player because of his lack of conditioning bad karma or bad luck bottom
line if he isn’t on the court he isn’t helping the team win games. He is 29 or 30 years old the window of opportunity is shrinking with each passing year How many more years will he be able to give the rockets part time play before his skills deteriate to the point of being a role player at 16+ million?

by rocketsfn on May 15, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

just sayin

that i like the rockets for the team concept, chemistry, locker room attributes. Sure we need the personalities that hypothetically can make the team win, but not to the point the personalities overshadow the whole team. I believe, that is IMHO, the team with a little tweak is talented enough to win while keeping the team concept intact. As i’ve said, i’d dread the rockets being called lebron and the lebrockettes the way the cavs are called lebron and the lebronettes.

by raong on May 15, 2010 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Ditto

So we should stay away from the princesses and find the best, good guys that work hard and play well as a team. Not that I love the following teams but these teams seem to be able to do extremely well without pampering their starts: Portland, Orlando, San Antonio and the kick ass Rockets. And please don’t even think about trying for Amare. He seems to personify someone who thinks he is entitle to much more than he really is.

by John P on May 16, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

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