Bosh May Pass On Houston, But The Rockets Aren't Losers By Any Means
So this is how this little saga will likely end. A wish list.
Fitting, since the idea of the Rockets ever acquiring Chris Bosh has all but proved to be nothing more than just that. A wish.
I'll admit, I was one of the daydreamers. I envisioned a Bosh/Martin combination that would give opponents fits. Throw Yao into the mix, as well as everyone else we would have kept, and that would have been one hell of a team. Defensive worries, chemistry worries, and injury worries aside, we would have loved this team. But you can't throw those aside - that's the rules.
And also, who would we have kept? If you noticed, I never went into extreme depth over the possibility of a Bosh trade, because when it came to deciding who exactly would be sent off to Toronto, I was at a loss for words. The rumors began with Jordan Hill. Okay, that's one. Next, we throw in the Knicks' pick, and perhaps this year's as well - that's two. Then we hit the wall. Who, exactly, would the Rockets have to trade in order to match the contracts? Aaron Brooks? That might make sense, but would Bosh be worth the loss of young assets plus a starting point guard and reining MIP winner? Doubtful. And then there was a name that everyone kept coming back to. Someone who made sense from a value standpoint for both sides(good enough to acquire, un-elite enough to trade), but not from a positional standpoint, and certainly not from a chemistry standpoint. And yet, that name kept coming up.
Luis Scola, please don't be mad. We love you, and we want you to stay.
You don't pay Luis Scola starter's money to sit on the bench. And if there was one guarantee that the Rockets made for this offseason, it's that Scola was going to remain a Rocket, and that everyone else could line up behind him. You too, Chris Bosh.
What's particularly interesting here is that neither the Rockets nor Bosh lose much. Sure, the Rockets can't pick up a marquee power-forward, but didn't we just make our big trade earlier this year? Aren't we still working out the kinks from that deal? Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but the way I see it, there is nothing wrong with letting a trio of Brooks/Martin/Yao go to work for at least a half-season. Throw in Trevor Ariza, Shane Battier, Jordan Hill, Kyle Lowry, Chase Budinger, and a first-round pick. Hey, that's not bad!
So perhaps some of the secondary players mentioned could be trade bait. Fine - as Mike Prada of SB Nation once pointed out to me, you can only stockpile so many assets before the opportunity comes along to trade them for a better player. In this case, that "better player" could be a top five draft pick. It's an option, and so is standing pat. Either one is fine by me, because I like where we currently stand, assuming Yao plays, oh, 65 games.
But at the end of the day, the Rockets will be fine because they have so many other options. And so does Chris Bosh. He can go to Chicago or Miami, realistically. Los Angeles? Nah, they won't go that far over the luxury tax threshold to land a player that improves their championship berth odds from 90% to 95%. And New York? Too risky, too unknown, too hyped. And Toronto must be boring by now, or else none of this would be so publicized.
So, Miami and Chicago. Perfect destinations for a guy like Bosh. They've got proven talent - young talent, at that - and have plenty of room to afford him. So why will today's "wish list" make Toronto GM Bryan Colangelo lose sleep at night? Well, it's because he is the loser. And so is Toronto. They are now about to get royally screwed.
Toronto had to have placed Houston atop the list of possible landing destinations for Bosh. We had the most young assets to include in a sign-and-trade, easily. Toronto would have, at the very least, received close to face value for Bosh's services. But now, with the Rockets crossed off the list, it's Bosh who is holding Toronto hostage. If they can't keep him, they're going to want something in return. Problem is, the "chosen" teams don't have much to offer. Chicago won't look nearly as nice if they give up Joakim Noah. Miami literally has nothing, aside from Michael Beasley or former Raptor bust Jermaine O'Neal. And while New York could give up David Lee or Danilo Gallinari, they probably want to hold on to the remaining talent they have in order to lure LeBron James. And Bosh isn't about to sign off on a deal that would send him to NY without a guarantee that LeBron would be there waiting, which isn't going to happen.
So that's the loser. Toronto, not Houston. Keep that in mind, fellow Bosh-dreamers. We're going to have to look for new mancrushes, but hey, not all hope is lost. In most cases, even if we do find someone to drool over, chances are slim that the Rockets will acquire him. Why? Because Daryl Morey will find someone better. It always happens, every time. We're not going to see it coming, this off-season, so keep guessing blindly, and you might get it right.
And, if you must, feel free to keep the Bosh faith alive, as the report has been downplayed. That's right, folks: the fun has only just begun.
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Meh. Good riddance.
I wasn’t much for getting Bosh.
Maybe I’m the only one who feels this way…
Rest assured, you’re not the only one.
…but the way I see it, there is nothing wrong with letting a trio of Brooks/Martin/Yao go to work for at least a half-season. Throw in Trevor Ariza, Shane Battier, Jordan Hill, Kyle Lowry, Chase Budinger, and a first-round pick. Hey, that’s not bad!
Not bad at all. I’m assuing that “at least a half season” you’re referring to is the run-up to the trade deadline? I’m pretty sure I’ve read at least one person speculating the Rockets might stand pat til the trade deadline… perhaps Morey was the one who said that?
In any case, I think the Rockets would be better served waiting for the trade deadline rather than jumping into the piranha pool surrounding LeBron’s free agency.
on not trading...
so there is going to be all this energy expended all of this irrational exuberance over the summer, while we see teams seemingly making huge deals that changes the face of the NBA. I still think 90% of them are going to fall flat. They may be the equivalent of Gasol going to LA (biggest trade I can remember) but most of them will completely fall flat. Huge chemsitry/ego problems. Did anyone know Sheed would play that bad for the C’s this season (at least until the playoffs). Do we really want to get caught up in the hype of deal making like the Pistons did with their poor choices of offense only PF and SG positions. I think we wait until the music stops and probably somebody good, maybe not great, but good, is left standing without a chair and we have a nice place for him to sit without costing us too much.
We desperately need to relieve Yao of the heavy load. We can no longer be hostage to his body’s falling apart after he selfishly pushes himself over and over again. I love the guy. Class act like Hakeem and all, but this is a long time to have to keep waiting for “oh next year when he is healthy will be the year”. If we can solve that problem by being as good or even better with a healthy Yao we will be just fine.
It takes more than marque names to win a championship, as Rudy taught is, it takes the heart of a champion. so lets plug this hole (and I wish bring Landry’s huge heart back) and win another championship
does anyone think a Wade-Bosh team in Miami with capped out salary and therefore no support players can win a championship by themselves?
Look guys
There is no list of teams, that’s just to get everyone talking about Bosh and where he might go. There is still a huge chance the Rockets will be the one to trade with the Raptors because of all our picks and players. Even if they don’t land Bosh, they’ll get Amare or Al Jefferson, somebody who can come in and make an impact. I’m not worried at all. Adding Yao for 20-30 minutes a game is a huge impact as long as he stays healthy. They’ll improve this team, no matter what it takes.
please not Amare...train hill instead
Amare’s ego and lack of defensive effort shows he does not belong as a Rocket
According to Bosh's Twitter
ESPN f’d up:
I saw that i supposedly had a " top 5" yesterday. Here’s something more accurate. http://j.mp/cWS0SV
Colangelo
Bosh’s agent denies it,Colangelo says he has a list.
The List is Colangelo’s way of driving up the price for Bosh. “Hey team not on list,make me an offer big enough and I’ll convince Chris to look your way.”
Whiteside
I’m fine with all of this, just now I hope we come out of the draft with Hassan Whiteside. Did anyone see his measurements from the combine? He has a reach of 7 freakin’ 7! This kid is Camby, only bigger!
Correction
Make that a wingspan of 7-7. My bad.
Here's the thing. You don't want the "winners curse".
The concept is that you pay so much in an auction/bidding situation that the deal could never be profitable.
I don’t really see plundering your team on a S&T. The signing is valuable to the player, and it allows movement with a max deal, but I don’t see how taking on a max deal for a player who was never signing with the “home” team is worth the cream of your system. Someone will do it, I’m sure, but the cost of adding a max deal, plus losing your best young talent might not be worth it.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Winner's Curse indeed...
I know that Isiah Thomas is no longer the GM of NYC, but they are so desperate to improve their team they are going to end up paying a ton of money for whoever. The owner of the knicks, from what I heard living in NYC, is basically an absentee owner who lets his idiot son run it into the ground. They endorsed all of Isiah’s decisions and will probably pay through the nose for any “star” they can get a hold of. I just don’t think Alexander is willing to pay that much penalty for people, even if they are Bosh. Unless LeBron actually goes to NYC, I see them most likely getting JJ and Boozer and Amare. Three solid players for sure and way over the salary cap. The upside is that then maybe we can get Lee.
Sounds like Wade is trying to get Bosh to Miami (even though Boozer and Amare have Florida roots). Does Miami have the money to pay anyone else of quality on that team with two max contracts?
Sounds like last years Pistons
Charlie and Ben signing.
In Morey We Trust
The BANHAMMER delivers the real justice
I'd wish for too but....
The only issues I see with Bosh not wanting to play with the Rockets is that Houston is a smaller market than what he is after and the well being of the other 2 stars he will be playing with is always iffy. No matter how you slice it, Yao and K-Mart have missed out on so many games the past 3 seasons and that is a major concern for any title-seeking free agent. But you can never count the Rockets out when getting what they want and that is in large part due to that phrase that Houstonians have come to know very well, "In Morey We Trust".
Rumor has it..
that the 76ers are willing to trade the 2nd pick. They have players owed money that they would like to get rid of. Dalembert, Iggy and Elton Brand. I don’t know about you guys but I would trade for Dalembert (who is in the last year of his deal) and pick up the 2nd pick and select Evan Turner. Just a thought, what do you guys think?
I actually like Dalembert.
He is a quality guy with some heart. Paid way too much, but for a year, and a 2 pick, maybe.
we would aslo have to give up
Bud and Jeffries but I think Wes Johnson would be a better fit for us right away with his shooting, athleticism, and defense.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I don't know what we'd have to give up
But I think you do the deal w/ the sixers because we need another center, and the best part of the deal would be Evan Turner. He might not be a strong need with this team, but he’s just too talented to pass up at 2. Maybe we could give up Ariza and some picks to move up. That would make me happy
by danielcp0303 on May 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
nah
i really do like Ariza and i dont think i would want to give him up. Remember salaries have to match aslo but maybe i give up ariza if Iggy is included. Hmmm i think i have my next post.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Guys, the Raps want a trade with the Rockets
They have already expressed their interest in Jordan Hill and they’ve milked everything out of Bosh.
by HoustonRockets4Eva on May 23, 2010 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
These S&T deals don't quite work the same as normal trades.
For the sign and trade, you’ve basically got a 3 party, rather than 2 party deal. Original team, new team, player all have to agree.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
A little slow on the banhammer, but it came down...sorry but your comments after the spam did too.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Bosh just wrote that “Rockets will be after me on draft day” via Twitter. Don’t count us out of the Bosh pursuit yet, we still have a chance.
by HoustonRockets4Eva on May 23, 2010 9:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
guys, guys
calm down this Bosh shit aint that damn serious. Dont get me wrong i like him but if we dont get him no biggie. aint the end of the world. I still think we can kick anyones ass next season just by retaining who we got now.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Kick ass?
The Rockets didn’t kick much ass this year. They were average, out of the playoffs. It seems to me that all the eggs for next season are in the Yao basket. That is risky and why the Rockets should not be content to just retain who we got now.
Hmm. You're kinda of a "half empty" guy aren't you?
What is the contingency plan for LA if Kobe goes out for a season? What was NO’s for Paul? What would Dallas do without Dirk? Cleveland without LeBron? Miami and Wade?
My point being, even if you have a fragile star (or two as was the case in Houston), the contingency to replace him is generally this: lose a lot. Superstars just aren’t easily replaced, or obtained, as I think we’ll see this summer.
So imagine the record for LA without Kobe and Gasol. Do they win 30? I’d say not. They lack the depth to do that. So, yeah, I think 42 wins is pretty awesome under the circumstances, and shows that a plan was in place. Martin is now on board, and Yao should be back. In addition, we’ll probably add a center, and have a team that was close to the playoffs without 60% of its payroll. The only other team that could do it? Portland.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
keeping what we have is a great idea
just get a good young center in the draft and maybe to a FA pick up at a defensive 3rd guard or do a small trade for a defensive 3rd guard and we may be done
Brad Miller or Pryz could also be signed if we can’ get the ideal big man via trade before the draft
Not a good idea
Keeping what we have is not such a great idea if they are all really as good as we think they are (or as good as the majority of posters on this blog think). If these guys are so good, there are only two ways to get any benefit from them — (1) play them or (2) trade them. Good teams normally have the 8-player rotation. If you have a lot of good players past #8, they just push for minutes and there are not enough minutes to go around. The best thing to do is to get the best possible 8 or 9. Trade up if we get the chance. The problem with that idea is that these guys the Rockets think are so wonderful might not look that good in the eyes of the other teams.
That makes sense
If the centerpeice of your team doesn’t get hurt all the time. When he does, you need that depth.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Phoenix
PHX runs at least 10 men deep. Their bench is a huge source of strength in the series. It might not be able to overcome LA, but it’s fairly easy to say the Suns are at parity, or very close. No one else can say that, except possibly Boston.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
bosh
If we get Bosh and some how keep Scola, Scola comes off the bench. Scola is a good player, but Bosh is a much more force inside and a All Star, so Bosh starts, and unless Yao’s not healthy and Bosh gets time at the five, Scola will only get limited minutes. I say trade Scola, and either Battier or Ariza,the draft picks, Jefferies, and cash or Jermaine Taylor. If we still have the mid level exception add a good backup for Martin, or vetran power forward. But i think that Hill is not that far away from being really good, like with Landry , our staff is good at developing talent, so Hill could be the backup at pf.
by since86rocketsfan on May 26, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions
am i the only one who gets excited by the thought of second string power forwards trying to guard scola?
by AlDe2356 on May 30, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

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