Joe Johnson, Chris Bosh and Brad Miller...The Rumor Mill is Heating up in Houston

lets load up some rowdies and get visitin’ ROAD TRIP!

I would hate to see Martin goes, since it’s been a long time since i see a rocket can hit jump shots like that

I just don’t get it.
True, its not like Martin took the Kings regularly into the playoffs, but I have not been impressed at all by JJ and the Hawks these past couple of years. They had one of the most athletic young teams around and they still disappointed.

If it is merely to try and attract Bosh or some other FA to Houston, that is a big IF, if Martin is who our coach and GM would rather have if it wasn’t for trying to attract Bosh.

Also, if I have the time I will look up the stats but do people have a comparison between the big men, their numbers and leadership/playoff accomplishments. My guess is this puts JJ and Boozer ahead of Bosh and maybe even Amare. Granted JJ And Boozer had better teams around them (with the exception of Amare this past year) but if ultimate winning when it counts is the best measure is it totally insane that Boozer beats out Bosh?

Also, can anyone think of a trade that keeps Martin and gets JJ?

We can put JJ at SF and trade Bud and Ariza for him…even though I would hate to see Bud go.
I guess Atlanta would want a PG as I think Bibby is leaving/retiring etc…but I could be wrong.

If we could get JJ for Bud and Ariza that would work out well for us, but we would then need a good backup SF/SG to replace Bud.

Then if Bosh gets his buddy to play with ( I hope its worth it) we could trade some combination of Battier, Scola, Hill, Patterson, Jefferies and draft picks to get Bosh.

PG: Brooks and Lowry
SG: Martin and Taylor (though hopefully we get someone besides Taylor unless he is really coming on)
SF: JJ and some replacement we pick up or Battier if not traded
PF: Bosh and whoever is left: Hill or Patterson
C: Yao, Chuck, Andrson and Bosh if need be

Thats a ton of offense but only Yao and Chuck as good defense.

we keep both. Just think if we have Bosh,Yao,Martin, and JJ in the lineup, thats too much and its only one ball. Ariza or Battier is a perfect fit with either Martin or Joe at the two, cause they dont need shots, and they play good d..Last year we had Ariza playing out of position at the two and it did not work out. I was not a fan of Martins before the trade, but grew too like him because he is a true two, and we finally got someone else besides Brooks who could take his man off the dribble. I always liked Joe because he is a pure shooter and scorer and a more complete player then Martin. They both can shoot well, and create there own shot, but Joe’s defense is much better then Martins. To be honest before we got Martin I was hoping we got Crawford from the Hawks, who i thought could fit in our system, so if it was left too me I would add Josh Smith too and trade Martin, and Scola, or Patterson. I know it wont happen, and we have a chance of getting Bosh but we are not his first option.

a better combo than Bosh and Lebron to Chicago. JJ would be their deadly outside perimeter threat, while Bosh would clean up on the inside plus he can shoot from the outside. Lebron, on the other hand, is another inside player which Bosh can do already. Lebron can’t shoot from beyond 10ft consistently.

Since we talk about a legitimate backup for the center spot has anyone looked at Brendan Haywood his a free agent this summer with Dallas. His a defensive minded center can get rebounds and would be able to soak up big minutes.

I don’t know….fine, JJ is better at D but it doesn’t seem that he is all that much better, and maybe he is slightly more durable (giving some credit to the “fluke”) argument, but the fact is that I still just don’t feel comfortable with it.

The main things in my purple sky world is that 1) Adelman and Morey have both loved Martin’s game for a long time and gave up our energy, heart and soul guy, in Landry to get him. That is a lot of confidence in his game
2) in my measuring stick JJ has not shown that he is committed to winning at all costs, that he is focused etc… Wade and Lebron had much less at times, particularly when you consider JJ’s team mates in Josh Smith, Bibby and Harford, and did more for it. That is a big part of being successful. Didn’t we just get rid of an underachieving “star” player in TMac?
3)Martin will be cheaper and is younger than JJ, which isn’t all that much but it matters.
4) If JJ can get a max contract from NJ or NYC then we will have to pay him the same…what is the cost of that when Martin is as good or even almost as good. What does that cost us down the line if we have to sign JJ to a longish expensive contract…all on the HOPE not the guarantee of signing Bosh.

My old refrain, we are a great team now, add All Jeff/Miller/Pryzbilla etc…type and we are good….at least until about the trade deadline

I don’t understand all the negatives about Joe Johnson. He is an excellent ball player. Sure, Atlanta didn’t do so good. You cannot blame all that on Johnson. Whether the Rockets trade for Johnson or not would depend on what we have to give up but it doesn’t depend on any quesitons about Johnson being good enough. If Johnson were on the Rockets now, he would be the Rocket’s best player. As for showing Chris Bosh that the Rockets have an all-star partner for him, how about some kind of demonstration that Yao Ming is really coming back full strength? If Bosh wants a big time team mate, Yao fits the bill if Yao is healthy. Who actually knows the true condition of Yao besides the doctors, a few rockets big shots and Yao himself?

was that the free agents need to keep in mind that the teams they want to go to might have to gut some of their core players in order for a sign/trade to work. He said that is one area where the Rox have an advantage over other teams.