ROCKETS CAN STOP HEAT
by Ani Kumar on Jul 10, 2010 4:09 PM CDT
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PrintI think if any team can challege the heat, it can be two major defensive teams.
BOBCATS and ROCKETS!!
gerald wallace and stephen jackson have the ability to stop Bron and Wade
the problem is that they dont have much of a frontcourt defense that can stop bosh
tyson chandler and tyrus thomas cannot stop bosh that well
however, rockets can stop the heat easily
we got the best perimeter D in the league (battier guards lebron) (ariza guards wade)
and jordan hill and yao can completly shut down bosh
what do yall think
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Bosh destroyed us several time, D-wade too
only Lebron we have a history of effectively stopping
i see a close game the first game and a blow out in the second one
just dont see us beating the heat this year unless its in the finals :)
tyson chandler and tyrus thomas cannot stop bosh that well
Actually IMO Chandler matches up very well with Bosh.
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IF YOU BELIEVE WE CAN BEAT THEM THEN WE WILL.
DO YOU STILL BELIEVE????
by HoustonRockets4Eva on Jul 10, 2010 8:20 PM CDT reply actions
with Battier anf Ariza Defending
Brooks and Yao could shoulder the load offensively. Great!
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
i think Wade and James will do a good job on him
and if Battier and Ariza are on the floor together i dont think K-mart will be there as well
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Good teams with good defenders
LA has Kobe and Crazy Pills to match up with Wade and Wade’s bitch, Gasol matches with Bosh, sugar monster Odom and Bynum make up the difference over whoever Miami signs
Houston: Ariza and Battier are maybe as good a D pair as Kobe and Crazy Pills…definitely witin spitting distance….the issue becomes Bosh. Yao can’t play outside the paint area…going to have to be Hill (not great D or Patterson or Scola)…our weakness there
Orlando has Barnes…good perimeter defender and I think maybe Pietres is too?
After that I don’t know the good perimeter defenders
But that being said all of these players get their points even against the best defenders.
“shutting down” Lebron or Wade or Bosh is holding them to between 15 to 20 points. It is going to be hard to hold them all to that in any game…but we are better placed to do it than most.
Im sorry guys but I dont believe
This team could beat them in the regular season, but I dont see this team beating the Heat, Lakers, or Nuggets in the playoffs. We lack a go to guy and that will be our downfall. Morey needs to do something this off season to aquire atleast anoher talent comparable to Brooks and Martin. Yao is not reliable enough to think we will have him all year. Im sorry, maybe this is just losing Bosh to a super team talking, but thats how I feel. Morey should be balls to the wall on trying to aquire CP3, Melo, or atleast a back up center. Team as it is cannot compete with the elite teams.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
I don t think so
Im sure we can make the playoffs and even get out of the first round. But this isnt a championship team.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
You're certainly
going to be proven wrong. I think you still have the sting of losing out on Bosh (Who statistically/capability wise is at a push with Luis Scola) affecting judgment. The cost for CP3 or Melo will most likely be too high but the Rockets have several go to guys. Yao for the obvious (His surgery has a track record of being successful and enhancing durability, but if you choose to ignore that, that’s your call) and on any night, Martin, Brooks, Luis, and hell, even Ariza have proven they can be that difference maker. I’d rather have 3 or 4 go to possibilities on any night and one solid piece (Yao) than two guys who you know you can key in on. When you have 4-5 guys you can go to on any given night you give the defense Hell deciding who to focus on. Especially when every player on the court is MORE than capable of having good nights and even more so is highly likely to be very productive most nights, we’re deadly. Don’t be fooled.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I agree with this mostly...
each of those players can and does get off, hell including Bud even got off one game, but I am starting to lean on darwithabar’s side more and more.
Miami and LA can both rest one of their stars (or two in Miami’s case) and still leave an automatic scorer on the floor. As we all know Yao may not and probably should not play major minutes during the regular season…and who knows if he is fully back when he will be on the court.
From all of the tea leaves it seems as if Morey has been given the green light to buy talent if need be. My guess is that he is going to try and do that. Whether or not there is a seller out there is a totally different story. Don’t expect Melo to come here though, if he did it would be just for the season. He wants max money in a pretty person market or to get a big extension in Denver. I don’ t see his personality wanting to come to Houston. Maybe CP3 but how many years on his contract left? get him for one or two years…is that worth it?
We may have to trade for just an offensive weapon, like Atlanta’s 6th man (blanking on name) or the former bulls shooter now in Detroit. I know these are not good choices but we may need a purely offensive player just to keep the ball going in the hoop when Yao is out. That would be an expensive proposition.
Correction. He's THE sixth man.
A damn good one.
In Morey We Trust
The BANHAMMER delivers the real justice
That's just turrible
Yeah any of those guys can go off on any given night
But Melo, Wade, Kobe, LeBron, Bosh, CP3 go off every night. We have zero players on the level of any of them. Scola is no Bosh, not even close. This team is very good. They are one of the most well balanced teams and will make the playoffs for sure. However, if you’re expecting a championship or even a finals run, youre going to be sad. I hope im proven wrong but this team will not beat the lakers 4 times in 7 games. They definitly wont beat the Heat.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
i agree for the most part but just remember two examples
the championship Pistons…and more importantly…
The first championship Rockets team.
Granted the Dream was a more dominant player than Yao probably is now but we have a deep and balanced team a lot like they did in 94. They had Cassell and Horry and we have Bud, Lowry, and maybe Hill or Patterson.
I don’t think we are a lock by any chance…but we are definitely in the conversation.
Would I like to have three allstars on the team…sure, but don’t underestimate how solid and consistent we are. We have a number of players who have been playing in the system for a couple of years and have very little egos.
All good signs for playing good team ball.
The Heat with their stacked team of
Wade, Bosh, Lebron and…. and…. and… who? Yea, that’s right. Until that roster fills out with someone other than Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem I’m not afraid. Unless those three clock 48 minutes a night there’s no talent on that team besides them. Add to it the complication of elevated minutes meaning elevated injury risk (Wade has had a few, and if I take the cue from fellow Dreamshakers because Bosh busted his face this last year that must make him injury prone) and they can’t sustain an injury or two.
The players you named are all on a collective 4 teams. So that would imply that 26 other NBA teams are not in the conversation. However, of all the players you named, the only teams on that list that has won a championship are the Heat and the Lakers. The Hornets have been irrelevant despite their big ticket star in Paul (Who can turn water into wine talent-wise). So, I’m not buying what you’re selling.
In the immortal words of Phil Jackson “They’re a good team, give them some fucking credit.”
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Rockets better than Heat last season
Everything depends on Yao. Remember, the Rockets were a better team than Miami last season. Basically, Miami added Lebron & Bosh (two monsters) but remember that Houston is adding Yao (a monster himself). I think that if Yao had been a FA and Houston had signed him as a FA, everybody would be predicting a championship run. The Rockets had a good team last season and they added one of the best players in the world to that team without losing anything in the process. And maybe the Rockets are not finished yet. Maybe they will add some fire power at SF like I hope.
Melo max contract
Maybe Melo will look at the guys in Miami who are all taking less $ to be able to play on a loaded team. I think it would be easier for Morey to get a CP3 or Melo if the current Rockets were all willing to take a pay cut (like the Big 3 were willing to do in Miami). I admire what the guys have done in Miami. I think it will lead other star players to look at the potential of not hogging up all the payroll on their own salary so that there is nothing left to pay the rest of the team.
Cost of CP3 or Melo
Maybe the times are a changin’. We see players willing to take pay cuts to sign with Miami. Maybe CP3 or Melo would be willing to take a pay cut to play for the Rockets IF .. IF .. the current Rocket players would take a similar pay cut. Look at Haslem who took a pay cut to play with Miami after the big 3 all took less money to play there. If some of the current high paid Rockets (Yao, Jeffries, Battier, Ariza) would take pay cuts then maybe the Rockets could do like Miami and load the boat.
u do realize
CP3 isn’t a free agent ’til 2012, right?
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
so?
CP3 apparently wants out of New Orleans. That is why there is so much talk about him. He is obviously a top level talent and if he wants to move then it increases the liklihood of it happening before he becomes a FA.
Ignore
the fact that the team is trying to sell. Prospective buyers won’t touch that franchise if you sell off its moneymaker. It’s like offering me stocks that have no value but you expect me to pay Google prices for it.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Maybe two or three years ago...
But if you followed the NBA last year, you would know that the Rockets aren’t even in the top half of teams defensively. Battier can’t shut down Lebron like he did a few years ago, and Jordan Hill hasn’t proved anything.
Again- punctuation and complete sentences would be nice when trying to read a full post. I know red nation isn’t this uneducated.
It counts
as a courtesy to readers and for coherency. I could make a point by spamming racial slurs in caps that I’m angry but I’m pretty sure a sternly worded and grammatically correct approach is more apt to get read.
Ron, the main reason we weren’t in the top half defensively was lack of bodies in the middle to clog up lanes and discourage shots, it’s part of what our defense is predicated upon. Therefore, returning Yao and counting the size we got at the trade deadline should see that defense turn around.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I agree
Yao is going to boost our defense exponentially. However, I’m concerned about when he is off the floor (which will be substantial considering his limited minutes, which the management has already spoken of).
Again
length post trade deadline will help. Hill is sliding over to Center, we’ve added Patterson at 6’9", we’re still working on a back up center trade or MLE’d back up center and those will help. All we really need to do is just angle those extra pieces and let what we have gel and it’s looking good.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
All these posts about Hill moving to the 5 or signing another big man (which i'm not against)
But i’ve yet to really hear how that’s going to work out; who’s going to get traded, benched or cut. If all goes as planned, we’ll have Yao, Andersen, a free agent backup C, Hill, Scola, Hayes, Patterson and Jeffries all trying to get time with only two positions available; and Yao and Andersen are set at center and can’t slider over like the rest. Not to mention a 15 man roster. And that’s not including a third point guard that some people have suggested. I just want to know how all of this will workout.
In Morey We Trust
The BANHAMMER delivers the real justice
That's just turrible
Andersen
is just as easy to slide to the 4 as he is a 5. Being 7’0" doesn’t automatically make you a center. There is plenty of room to make it all work, the Rocket’s main strength (outside of team play) is versatility in match ups. Adelman can easily shuffle the big fellas we have.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
In Other News
Heats retained Haslem who turned down twice as much money from both Denver and Mavericks. Foolish or smart?
I get the notion of wanting to be Robert Horry, but even Horry didnt discount himself until later in his career. Haslem already has a ring, so what’s he doing
Smart if he wants to win
Everybody is always saying these players are only interested in the money. Now we have several at Miami taking pay cuts to win.
5 mil tops is a paycut?
The Miami Threetards took a grand total of 15 million between each other. That averages to each player taking a 5 million dollar paycut. The only legit players taking paycuts are the people coming in on Vet minimums. Miller even got Beasely’s money (Which is fair market value for him). Haslem turned down richer offers but he’s always been a Heat guy, he just worked within the parameters. The only legit pay cut taken on that team is Udonis.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Exactly
Udonis is not a star, he has not notable endorsements, He certainly wont be one of those legends that goes down in league history, I get that he wants to win, but I feel like he’s bending over backward for this team, when he should’ve looked out for himself, but then again maybe the Heat take care of their own enough that he feel secure about this
Yes .. but he turned down money
Whether he is a star or not doesn’t matter. He accepted less to play where he wanted to play. So did the others. Maybe Miller did get fair mkt value, whatever that is. But Haslem took less that he was offered by Dallas. And Bosh, Lebron and Wade all took less than they could have got elsewhere. In reality, is a guy really any happier if he has $6 million than $4 million? I doubt it. But is he happier if he wins instead of loses? I think the answer is obvious. Haslem has all the money he needs to be happy. More money would not improve his life one iota.
Tales of broke basketball players
are not unheard of. I’m not faulting anybody, but those other guys, their paycut is merely 1/5 of their salary and those guy make their money in endorsements. I understand turning down money to win, but it seems to cost him more than it cost those who orchestrated the whole super team scenario, which I think is wrong
The way I see it
For non-stars, money is harder earned, and Udonis is turning down half of his paycheck for glory and for long term too, not just a short stint. I dont see it as a good business decision
Heat looks a little better
I think it is closer than most people think. It all depends on Yao. Last season, Houston was better than Miami. Basically, Miami has added two stars (Bosh and Lebron). Houston has added one star (Yao). But remember that prior to these changes, Houston was the better team.
PG – Advantage Houston (Brooks is better than ????)
SG – Advantage Miami (but Martin is nobody’s slouch)
SF – BIG Advantage Miami big advantage for Miami
PF – Advantage Miami (Bosh is a star but Scola is not that far behind him)
C – BIG Advantage Houston (Yao overwhelms Z)
Basically, Miami has the advantage at 3 positions but on two of those, the advantage is not overwhelming. And the Rockets have the advantage at two positions and on both of those the Rockets have a pretty good advantage.
And then you look at the bench, where the Rockets will be much better.
A couple things to consider
PG – Hands down, agreed, Brooks is better than Chalmers
SG – Miami advantage, true, but positions don’t solely guard each other and our rotations can swap out to have Ariza and Battier on the floor together to solve the next problem.
SF – True, but let’s recall, we’re the only team in LeDouche’s career to hold him to 0 assists in a game.
PF – I’d call it a push. Bosh is gonna dance around the outside, Scola can bang him out of the inside if he gets there, height isn’t all that far off, and if you look at advanced stats, Scola compares favorably to The Threetard Lapdog.
C – No way you can argue against Yao.
I think, as you said, the big strength of Houston is it’s bench but also the fact that we have 4 capable defenders sitting around on our roster in Battier, Ariza, Jeffries, and Hayes. That’s a lot to try to score through. Miami only has three guys tops that are going to be a problem and I see 4 guys on our roster (Two that can contribute varying amounts of offense) that can play lockdown defense. Jeffries can do 3-5, Ariza and Batter 2-4, so we’re sitting pretty when you consider Chris doesn’t even need to be locked down.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I agree
At first when Miami got the big 3, it was sort of like “well, it’s over, get their rings ready” but we still need to play the games. The Rockets look okay (if Yao is 100%). Boston looks like they can challenge Miami too. The Lakers look perhaps a bit better than Miami. Miami might not work out quite as well as they should. Great players don’t always play great together (as Team USA has proven a few times). I wish they would hurry up and start the season.
Just want to add
That the Bobcats are not going to shut down any team, much less Miami. The Rockets might rise to the challenge of playing Miami but NOT THE BOBCATS. Also, I didn’t actually agree with the reasoning for the Rockets being able to challenge Miami. I don’t think it will be becasue of the Rockets “great defense”. I think the Rockets will challenge them offensively. Yao, Scola, Martin and Brooks can put up the points. So can a few of the guys off the bench like Lowry (if he stays), Taylor, Bud.
The Rockets have the pieces (with Yao) to be much improved defensive team this year.
I disagree.
If we’re to challenge Miami it will be beacause of stellar defense. Your telling me that we can match the point total of 3 of the top 10 players in the league? I don’t think so. Our D will have to show up to beat them.
agreed
I hate to say it but as we are now constructed with lowry and scola back and no other changes…even adding Miller, I don’t know how we beat Miami unless they are self destructing with all the ego and same playing styles of Wade and Lebron. All of the three best players get their 20+ points every night….no matter who is guarding them.
I think we really need CP3, Melo or someone close to that level like Granger to be able to say we can take them…we have a great team, dont get me wrong and a team the could go all the way but odds are at this point, unless Yao plays amazing with Martin and Ariza, that we lose that matchup
sorry…dont banhammer me
yall is all losers if yall really think dat rockets can fux wit heat
dnt get me wrong i love da rockets to deaf but i mean 3 superstars? just a couple reason and let me kno wat yall think…
1. lebron is a beast just sayin
2. d wade is a monsta
3. bosh is talla den scola
4. big z can bring yao out of da paint on d fence
i dnt think we can fux wit da heat but i hopes we do……i aint tryna b a rocket hater at all dey jus gots too much AMMO IN DA GUN…jus sayin
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