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CP3 - Oh? This *is* the droid you are looking for!

Dear Daryl Morey,

I'm sure you had a plan hatched for this contingency long ago... but...

Chris Paul apparently wants to be traded to a contender.  The New Orleans Hornets are broke, having aging assets and no reasonable expectations of making the playoffs or winning a ring.  In short, they are primed for being exploited.

Use the jedi mind trick, boy genius.  CP3 shall be ours.  It is our destiny!

/and hey, I like you ABZ, but we're talkin' 'bout CP3 here!

[UPDATE from Tom: Dave, Paul apparently wants to go to New York. That would royally screw our draft picks. Please, if you could extend this into a rant against all things New York, that would be fantastic. That is all.]

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We are not on his list...

I doubt we can swing a trade for him especially since he doesn’t want to play for us.

But, on the plus side, it doesn’t look like NY has any type of assets to trade to the Hornets for Paul. I think our draft picks are safe right now.

by erod on Jul 22, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

ummmmm

Last I checked he is neither a free agent, nor does he have a no-trade clause.

he has shit for leverage.

by grungedave on Jul 22, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually though

NYK can offer a MASSIVE trade exception to New Orleans… which would get NOH under the cap, too. That’s the biggest asset anyone can offer them right now.

by grungedave on Jul 22, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh...

I still don’t want a disgruntled player on our team….

…And I didn’t think about the trade exception.

by erod on Jul 22, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

disgruntled?

He is disgruntled because he is stuck on New Orleans. Maybe he would be happy if he were traded to the Rockets. On the other hand, he might get quickly disgruntled again if Yao turns up lame.

by Gulder_Roy on Jul 23, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

that

and he wants to play with stars like his friends in MIA, he wants to be on a superteam not one other star and role players, idt he’d like it here

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore

by HB23 on Jul 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is NY going to trade for him? Curry’s contract, a 2033 2nd round draft pick, and the salty tears of LeBron’s spurning? We could easily beat that, and if Paul really cares about winning, he’d have to be a fool to turn down a trade to Houston.

by seanbergmanrules on Jul 22, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Definetly have CP3 over ABZ

But I’ve also grown very attached to Aaron. I don’t want him to go away, especially at the stage in his career (although he has pretty high trade value right now)

Daryl Morey's number one fanboy

by xNevermind on Jul 22, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

ive wondered this...

is it possible to keep ABZ as the backup 2 instead of deal him…NO doesn’t need Brooks bcz they have collison…

Hill, Jeffries, Ariza, Andersen, Bud or Taylor, 2 picks, rights to Llull

AB can guard the PG but play SG on offense

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 22, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Llull has shown

signs with Real Madrid of being a great NBA player. We should keep him, as maybe Lowrys backup if we trade AB or not resign him. Im sure Ab will not want to be a backup on any team, and if somehow we get Paul, Lowry will probaly want a trade as well.

by since86rocketsfan on Jul 22, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ive heard stuff about paul to the lakers.

 Not sure about the credibility of the source but that would be flat our ridiculous…

by AlDe2356 on Jul 22, 2010 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

If it is not Houston, then anywhere but NY would be bearable.

"He’s been following him around for two weeks like his lapdog". - Stan Van Gundy about Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade

by RocketsAstros on Jul 22, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

No... That's a stupid comment.

We are trying to contend with the lakers for the conference championship, if Paul goes to them, then they’ll be unstoppable.

by Michael S. on Jul 22, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That well, depends.

It sounds like that the Lakers trading for Paul would give up Odom and Bynum. Given that doing that completely destroys the height advantage that has been key to the Laker’s winning ways, and Odom is about the only useful player on their bench, I wouldn’t say they would be unstoppable, especially since I wonder how Paul would work in the triangle.

Now if they gave up just Bynum? Yeah, we’re in trouble, and I would be rooting for a lockout so that owners could crack down on the fact that pretty much all the stars are fleeing to a contender, South Beach, and New York.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jul 22, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

with that logic

we are contending with anyone really so let’s start crying that Paul is gonna make team X unstoppable.Please have in mind that no team is simply going to add him to the roster. Just like Barragan said they would have to give up major talent to do so.

"He’s been following him around for two weeks like his lapdog". - Stan Van Gundy about Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade

by RocketsAstros on Jul 23, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's weird that Portland is on his list but not Houston

Since we are apparently “Morey’s cult,” let’s hope his mind tricks work, AB is my favourite player but if we can get CP3 then trade him right away

by Dream94 on Jul 22, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

There has got to be a way to

aquire CP3 and Granger.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Jul 22, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Cp3 is perfect

Paul and okafor

Barrier, AB, hill, Jeffries, 2011 1st

by AllenOU on Jul 22, 2010 6:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Those salaries are not even remotely close.

by seanbergmanrules on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miami is greedy

if they can get Bosh and Lebron for not much then we surely can get Granger and Paul because we have the assets to do it.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Jul 23, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granger would be great

I would like to see the Rockets get one of the SFs often mentioned (Granger, Iggy, etc) more than Paul. Obviously, Paul is great, probably the best current PG but Brooks is okay and getting better. Considering what the Rockets will likely have to give up to get either Paul or Granger/Iggy, I would go for the SF and keeps Brooks/Lowry where they are now.

by Gulder_Roy on Jul 23, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

Granger i think is > Iggy

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Jul 23, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are assuming Paul thinks we are contenders..

if he does, then we’ll be in the running for him, otherwise, forget it.

by inquisitiveman on Jul 22, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say we are contenders

But we are first on the second tier of teams

4th seed at best, with a chance to do damage

To me, this is still a “contender”

Just as good as Portland and better than NY and dallas

by AllenOU on Jul 22, 2010 6:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not a contender

Even if Yao doesn’t come back lame, this team, as currently put together, is not a contender. Hell of a team to watch, but even with a great point guard, I don’t think this team is a contender.

"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq

by Max_in_Missouri on Jul 27, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

With CP3 we would be in the top two teams in the West, IMO.

by OremLK on Jul 22, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It all depends on Yao

And with Yao making announcements that fans should not expect much from him this season, even talking about his career ending early, etc … then Paul isn’t going to want to jump on the sinking ship. Without Yao, the Rockets are not a big attraction.

by Gulder_Roy on Jul 23, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless I'm mistaken

CP3 is under contract and NO is not likely to be thrilled with him requesting a trade. I don’t see where he gets a vote

by makinmajik on Jul 22, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Nothing will happen.

There are only a handful of teams that could make a legit offer at this point, and the fact is that the Hornets can do whatever they want with him.
The Knicks will make an offer, but all of their assets are purely financial at this point. The Hornets will be wanting more than that, in all likelihood. The Lakers can just offer Bynum and draft picks, and that is at least tantalizing, but it’s certainly no reason to actually pull the trigger.

What it comes down to is the fact that there is really no good reason to trade the best point guard in the league unless it’s absolutely crucial. It’s not as if the Hornets risk losing him in a year and then getting nothing.

And as much as I’d like to see the Rockets somehow obtain the guy I feel is the 2nd-best player in the world right now, this has all the feel of previous trade-demand scares like Olajuwon and Kobe. The season will start, Paul will still be in NOLA, and gradually he’ll get acclimated to their improved roster.

by Only_A_Lad on Jul 22, 2010 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Mostly true but

The Hornets had not made a significant move to improve their roster, maybe when they get rid of Peja at the deadline

by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Jul 23, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

wish come true

Lowry wants to start,Paul wants out of N.O.,so whats wrong with Lowry,Anderson and Hill for Paul

by Greg Cain on Jul 22, 2010 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

because

1) Lowry can’t be traded until December
2) That trade wouldn’t work under the rules, anyways.
3) Why would the Hornets accept that?

by Only_A_Lad on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Besides

They are only considering trading Paul because they have Collison to take his place. Lowry wouldn’t be starting. And like Only_A_Lad said, NO would have no reason to want to make that move.

by Superdave532 on Jul 22, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that no trade rule iron clad.

Or is it can’t be traded without their agreement.

by svspider on Jul 22, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not a "no trade rule."

It’s a part of the collective bargaining agreement. Trades between teams that are currently over the salary cap have to “match salaries” in trades – incoming contracts must total 75% to 125% of outgoing contracts.

For instance: let’s say that Team 1 wants to trade two players, A and B. A’s contract pays him $10 million dollars this year, while B’s contract pays him $2 million dollars. Team 2 will trade Player Z to Team 1 in exchange for A & B.

If both teams are over the cap, then Z’s contract for this year must pay him between $9 million and $15 million.

by Only_A_Lad on Jul 23, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the great info.

But I was actually asking about the Lowry can’t be traded part. Is it that he can’t be traded at all until Dec or just can’t be traded without his consent.

by svspider on Jul 23, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can't be traded until the 15th of December

Another rule of the CBA.

And, even after that, he’ll be a Base Year Compensation (BYC) player. That means that the trade-value of his outgoing salary is less than his actual salary.

Both of these rules are in effect basically to prevent a team from signing free agents and then trading them away.

by Only_A_Lad on Jul 23, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I was never sure if they could go if they wanted to since the rule protected them.

by svspider on Jul 23, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think we have a shot at Paul.

However I really do feel like we could land Iggy. I posted this trade in another thread, and I know its gauche to repost. However I wanted more peoples thoughts on it.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2b2slhy

So could it work?

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

No way I'd do that deal from the trade machine

Brooks, Battier and Hill just for Iggy. No thanks. Ariza, Hill and some other backup…that’s the deal I’d do

by danielcp0303 on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes thats the deal we would do

But why would Philly? And don’t sleep on Holliday. The dude still has a ton of potential.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I don't think they would take brooks

Because they would have to be the ones giving him a huge payday, unless they let him walk. We have expiring contracts and young talent, no need to give up Brooks.

by danielcp0303 on Jul 22, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philly just hired Doug Collins

And they have like 17 million dollars coming off the books after this season. There going to want talent, and expirings. The only 2 really big contracts they have left are Brand and Iggy. And I doubt your going to get Iggy for expirings, and young unproven talent, unless your gonna take on Brands contract.(Or find someone to take it on for you.)

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Brands contract

Is freaking horrendous.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually not that long ago,

Their was a rumor from a pretty trusted source apparently that said something about Ariza, Hill, and Jefferies for Iggy and Smith.

by Rocket94 on Jul 22, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Smith from the 76ers

Or Josh Smith from the Hawks? Because Jason Smith is, Meh. And Josh Smith is to expensive, when paired with Iggy.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Smith

Ya we couldnt afford Josh. I think Jason was just a filler. A lot better than last years proposed deals for Iggy with us taking back a bad contract thats for sure.

by Rocket94 on Jul 22, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or theres this deal

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dnspnw

Maybe give Philly the option to switch picks with the knicks in 2011,and give Washington our 2012 first rounder.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

As crazy as that deal looked at first..

We would get granger and that would be amazing. I just dont know how high Arenas’s value is right now in the league with his huge contract. But that would definitely upgrade Indy.

by Rocket94 on Jul 22, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You did notice

that everybody except Indiana has a net loss in games won after that trade?

by svspider on Jul 23, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya but look at the roster after a trade like that

Yao,Miller
Scola, Patterson, Hayes
Granger,Bud
Martin,Taylor
Lowry,Williams

really think we would win less games?

alright im done with the trade machine stuff

by Rocket94 on Jul 23, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You do realize

That PER is how they judge the trades? And there not taking into acount rookies.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 23, 2010 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way the Rockets trade Aaron Brooks in any Iggy deal

Jrue Holliday and a TE isnt worth Shane Battier and Jordan Hill. Also, AB is the best player in that trade and his contract isnt as bad as Iggy’s. No way the Rockets make that deal. Iggy is not worth that.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Jul 23, 2010 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Question

Wonder what happens if Houston actually puts together a package that the New Orleans likes and both side agree do you think CP3 would say NO?

by Itoko on Jul 22, 2010 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont think it would matter what he says.

As far as I know he doesn’t have a no trade clause. I just dont think we want a disgruntled player on our team. Its all up to NO at this point.

by Rocket94 on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't get a say

And he’d be happy here. May not be choice one, but like just about every player not named Kobe, he doesn’t have a no trade so he’ll be good with it pretty quickly

www.TheDreamShake.com Co-Founder and Writer

by UofTOrange on Jul 22, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing he could do is refuse to report.

Which would kill the deal. I don’t think he would do that. Then again i have been suprised before

by Rocket94 on Jul 22, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23avx8s

This is the idea i came up with with this trade the rockets get CP3 and eat Okafors contract and the hornets get everyone off the books bar anderson at the end of the year. To sweeten the deal for the hornets i think the rockets would need to throw in one of the 1st round picks that can be traded with the knicks.

What do people think of this trade?

by Itoko on Jul 22, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno but why not tweet this to DM...

.but some will think this is too much or too little. And it’ll probably get ignored. Still, nothing to lose really.

by suzaku on Jul 22, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno but why not tweet this to DM...

Some people will think its either too much or too little and will probably get ignored but still… nothing to lose really.

by suzaku on Jul 22, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heres another fun trade

Mainly for poops and giggles

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2cuklys

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

i dont even like it...

we dont need to trade brooks so why do it…

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 22, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

How else are you planning on acquiring an elite player?

Happy thoughts? Indy needs a point guard. We need an elite scorer. I don’t mean to c ome aross like a prick, but without a massive expiring contract like T-Macs, Brooks is hands down our most valuable trade chip. And I’d be willing to bet that if a deal does go down for an elite player Brooks will be involved.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Jul 22, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're forgetting that they accomodated

him by getting Gasol. I don’t think the Hornets have any players valuable enough to trade for in order to get someone like Gasol. Unless Paul has a change of heart, he will be traded, the question is who he will play for from his preferred list.

by inquisitiveman on Jul 23, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Player that push to be traded are usually traded within a short time. Besides, NO has already been looking at their options and one obvious one is to unload and start over.

by Gulder_Roy on Jul 23, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

But i think its because management knew they could get Gasol so he wouldnt be unhappy for long.

by Rocket94 on Jul 23, 2010 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

my worthless view

Pipedream or potential team chem killer
Lbj and his idiot friends are going to poison everyone they touch, including paul. Now every allstar is going to want two other stars to play with and houston and many other non pretty people cities are not going to be considered. The less cool cities are going to have to build their teams with less stars and more balance and depth. Until the miami experiment blows up cp3 melo and others are goimg to dream of their own three man star team. We have a team structured the only way we can beat a star studded team, with depth and balance. Do you want to trade a ton of youth and depth for a guy who thinks lbj’s group is the way to work. The iggy trade or the granger trade makes much more sense with less ego and whinny lbj acolite shit.

by John P on Jul 23, 2010 1:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

When did Houston become a non-pretty people city>

This is Texas for goodness sake.

Houston has a plethora of hot/insanely hot women. And it’s a million degrees out so they wear nothing. Plus it’s crazy international so there are women here from everywhere. Jordan Hill said it was better than NYC recently

www.TheDreamShake.com Co-Founder and Writer

by UofTOrange on Jul 23, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, sure.

But do people outside Houston know this? We all know how Houston’s treated like it’s some crap town like Salt Lake City or Nashville.
I’d love to get Paul, but I just can’t see it. New Orleans trading to a division rival, and the fact that I am paranoid now about another version of the Superfriends, and the result is not good.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jul 23, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I partly agree

Disagree about Houston – Houston is one of the better sites in the NBA. The ugly-people places are Milw, Cleveland, NJ, Memphis. Houston is a big city, big market and also most popular in China and nowadays everybody wants to kiss Chinese butts.

Agree about Granger — Rockets would be better off to get Granger or Iggy and keep the base team together. Yao won’t last much longer so the Rockets got to do it now. Brad Miller is only good for now too. The only thing really lacking is an all-star quality SF, a guy who can defend AND score. Ariza and Battier are bench players.

Disagree about Miami — I think the experiment won’t blow up in their faces. They are loaded and will win 2-4 championships over the next 6 years. They will be a major contender every year. They won’t win them all but they will be the best team, overall, for the next 6 years. All this talk about depth …. when it comes to the playoffs, those big 3 will play 40+ min per game if needed. They don’t call fouls on those guys. Besides, Miami is picking up some pretty good role players.

by Gulder_Roy on Jul 23, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was just reying to say that until miami blows up

Not that they would..I think they will be great

by John P on Jul 23, 2010 2:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think NO would bite on a trade for...

AB, Bud, Hill, and Fillers for CP3. We would have to throw in a couple draft picks but it would be worth it. A starting line up of Paul, Martin, Ariza, Scola, and Yao would be unstoppable. With a 2nd unit of Lowry, Taylor, Battier, Patterson, and Miller isnt bad either. Patterson makes Hill tradable, Miller makes Anderson tradable, Taylor makes Bud tradable. We would be 2 deep at every posistion.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Jul 23, 2010 2:37 AM CDT reply actions  

how would kyle lowry

not be in a deal for CP3? You guys really think we are going to spend 20 mil plus on our PG position?

by ainsworth on Jul 23, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

especially when

CP3 would be playing 30+ minutes a game.

by ainsworth on Jul 23, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

well the money.

plus, do you think Klow gets comparable minutes this season if we got CP3?

by ainsworth on Jul 23, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron's minutes were inflated when he was playing 40 minutes a game

while Lowry was injured. AB and Kyle also played on the floor quite a bit together, something I don’t see Kyle and CP3 doing with the same frequency.

by ainsworth on Jul 23, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lowry can't be included

Until December. One of the CBA rules, newly signed players can’t be dealt for X amount of time – in Kyle’s case, I believe it’s December 15th or so.

by Superdave532 on Jul 23, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Hornets want some good young talent and not wanting to take on

bad/long term contracts. The Mavs and Blazers can offer this more than us. The Hornets are probably requiring that other teams take on Okafor ‘s huge contract which i doubt the Rox are willing to do. Other teams are most likely willing to do that like the Mavs. The Mavs also have 30mil in expiring contracts and would be willing to give up Butler and Beaubois,Chandler, Anjica. Rox not in driver’s seat but anything is possible i guess considering what happened this summer.

by inquisitiveman on Jul 23, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

This is crazy

When did Brooks suddenly become a franchise player?

People have complaints about the Rockets potentially acquiring CP3?

by wayno on Jul 23, 2010 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

With a "Money Ball" guy at GM...

Don’t get too attached to ANY player. Which is why I got over the Landry thing faster than most did.

….Miss you, Carl!

by Mike Kerns on Jul 23, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

Last year his points sky-rocketed because of his usage. His stock is probably higher than it ever will be and i bet Morey is looking to sell high.

by Rocket94 on Jul 23, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Show me a great PG

whose usage is not high…………thank you very much

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Jul 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

in his defense

he did handle it much, much better than most expected

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Jul 24, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That i will agree with

No doubt the guy can play and i hope for a long time in this league. I love him in a Rockets jersey but i wont be shocked to see him moved.

by Rocket94 on Jul 26, 2010 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am one of AB's biggest fans

I don’t think he’s anywhere close to his peak as a player; I feel he can be an All-Star in the future, and in a few years, one of the top five point guards in the NBA.

And of course I’d still take CP3 over him in a heartbeat. Chris Paul is just that good. He’s not just one of the top five point guards in the league, he’s one of the top five players in the league.

So, um, yeah. When you can get a player like that, you have to do it. Chris Bosh wasn’t that guy. Chris Paul? Oh, yes. He most definitely is.

by OremLK on Jul 23, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That said

Here’s the thing. I don’t think New Orleans is going to want AB. So you have several options.

  • Expand it to a three-team trade. Send Aaron Brooks over to another team for something the Hornets actually want.
  • Make the deal with other pieces (very possible with as many assets as Morey has compiled), then trade Brooks afterward to another team for something else we need.
  • Keep Brooks and trade Lowry, either to New Orleans or to another team. Brooks can be the first scorer off the bench and play pretty much the same role Jason Terry plays in Dallas.

I am fine with any of those three possibilities. Point is, if you can get CP3, you do it.

by OremLK on Jul 23, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea Im not a fan of him either

plus hes sorta injury-prone also, pass

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore

by HB23 on Jul 23, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness, his "injury-prone-ness" is due in large part to his usage.

Career avg.: 37:17 over 345 games.

Past three seasons:
2007-2008: 37:36 per game, 80 games
2008-2009: 38:30 per game, 78 games
2009-2010: 38:06 per game, 45 games

by DribbleHooper on Jul 24, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

AB had a high usage rate this season and he was as durable as anyone (knock on wood). That said it was just one season and Paul also played in the olympics so I see where you are coming from with that.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Jul 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh i get it

star wars.

Its so damn hot... milk was a bad choice

by Golden Ratio on Jul 24, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Dont get this

Chris Paul is a cry baby /chemistry killer thing. Come on! I called this as soon as Paul chose Lebron’s LRMR that he will now negotiate like a dick. LRMR are basically Lebron’s high school friends that banded together to capitalize on Lebron’s success. Maverick Carter didnt even finish college, I mean why not, if my high school buddy was Lebron and he wants me to market him, I’d quit college too. It’s like being Will Smith’s agent after he made fresh prince and independence day, the heavy lifting was done. They may have a good team, but the guys that’s making the final decision are essentially inexperienced and rash. Since they only manage successes(after they succeed), they only knew one way to negotiate, artless brute force. It’s sad that these are the guys influencing sports nowadays

by NVP on Jul 25, 2010 4:06 AM CDT reply actions  

agreed,

by signing with LBJ’s company, Paul is becoming more like him. LBJ is great talent, shittie influence. Therefore, elite talent or not, do not want team killer. Deron Williams seems like a class act , wish he was NEVER on Utah, but class act and a winner regardless.

Do ppl really think CP3 is better than D. Williams?

by AK1111 on Jul 26, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, i do.

He is playmaker which makes everyone on the court better. Williams certainly is bigger and take over games at certain times, but he doesn’t get everyone involved like Paul does. I’d take Paul over Williams.

by inquisitiveman on Jul 26, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three team trade

NO gets:
  -Trevor Ariza (young SF)
  -Jordan Hill (young backup C/PF)
  -David Andersen (expiring)
  -Jared Jeffries (expiring)
  -draft picks (maybe)
Indiana gets:
  -Aaron Brooks (they get PG)
  -Shane Battier (gets to play with 2 former Duke teamates)
  -draft picks (most likely)
Houston gets:
  -CP3
  -Danny Granger
  -Emeka Okafor :(

**Will add on another $10million to salary cap but Les is willing to play and the new CBA is coming up which will most likely help keep from paying so much next year.

by CWC3 on Jul 26, 2010 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

nooo dont' take Arizaaaa

1 back up 3 would be nice to keep.

by AK1111 on Jul 26, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

ummm

It was never his call to begin with. He’s under contract and doesn’t have no trade clause. If NOH wants to trade him for salary/luxury tax relief, they can still do it.

by grungedave on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

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