Is Tweek, um, I mean Trevor Ariza, on his way out of Houston?
by grungedave on Aug 11, 2010 12:42 PM CDT
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PrintDetails forthcoming, but it looks like Morey has a trade in the works to dump Tweek and his $35M contract on the New Orleans Hornets. In return we'd get Courtney Lee....... and salary cap/luxury tax relief.
I mean, I know Trevor Ariza is terrible at dribbling the basketball and his shot selection is rather awful, but... he's damn good as a role player and he's great as a help defender. Are we that worried about the luxury tax?
(sidenote: I do know the Rockets coveted Courtney Lee when he was in the Draft two years ago. This could just be the culmination of a buy-low, sell-high moment for a player Morey has always wanted. I think.)
More to come... maybe.
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Morey admitting he overpaid
That’s what this move shows. He probably realized he overpaid for Ariza and wanted to get rid of him ASAP. Courtney Lee is nothing special. Think they could have gotten better value for Ariza.
Flexibility
I think our team stays about the same. Battier provides some of the same tools as a role player and I don’t think the team dips that much without Ariza in the lineup. This is not only huge for this year in saving salary, but also for the rest of Ariza’s contract which means less money on the books in the future and more flexibility. I think Lee could have a higher ceiling too. When you get someone who probably keeps your team the same while saving as much as the Rockets will do with this deal, I think it’s a win. It may not help us win now, which is what we all want, but it might better prepare us for the future
But but but
Morey….
Thinks back to Alston – Lowry deal and smiles
Nice to see
the Rockets running away from the commitment to winning… Ariza was a younger version of Battier with more offense and a good piece to keep in the future of the Rockets. Add to it that we got absolutely dick on the return all for a salary dump and this, unless Lee becomes an all star overnight, will be in my opinion an abortion for Morey. Let’s face it, winning teams, CHAMPIONSHIP teams pay the tax. By dodging it and hoping to win with bargain parts, we won’t get it done. There’s a reason the champions of the last few years have players like Garnett, Gasol, Odom, Bryant, Pierce, and Allen. You get what you pay for.
This goes through, I’m straight up pissed.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Agreed.
Didn’t Alexander say he was willing to pay the tax? We should go for the best team possible, not try and save money, when we have the right team now.
Its pretty much done
Just waiting for league approval. Courtney Lee sucks. Maybe ownership didn’t feel like paying the 4 years, $28M left on Ariza’s deal.
Courtney Lee far from sucks
The guys is a player. He was really good for Orlando two years ago and y’all are reading way too much into a season with the worst team in basketball.
Lee was really coveted by Morey and rightfully so. He can defend and score.
I think it’s hilarious how much people rode Ariza and now that he’s being traded he’s awesome. Ariza sucked, the only reason he wasn’t a failure is, let’s face it a cheap player in the scheme of things that just didn’t work out.
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Hmmm
1.) I never said Lee sucks, just I feel as though Ariza gives us more and is entering his prime, which is huge. I want to see Lee do well and I was impressed with his years in Orlando, but I don’t think for a team in win now mode this trade was right.
2.) I was on Ariza’s side the entire time he was in Houston and defended his rough nights and highlighted his good nights, so I’m not 100% sure why this was a response to me.
3.) This is Lee’s third year, I can have egg all over my face if he shows up and does well, and I really hope I look like a jackass.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Everybody gets one
BD34, cheer up, Courtney Lee projects as a better offensive version of Shane Battier.
Not quite Rafer Alston for Kyle Lowry, but pretty close. Ariza may grow with Chris Paul feeding him the ball, but he didn’t fit the build of the Rockets. Lee is a better shooter than Ariza (even if the 2010 numbers don’t say so) and he’s a more grounded defender. Plus, Courtney Lee could solve our need for a big 3rd PG (yes he’s not a PG by trade, but he can defend there…and you can always get Budinger, Martin or Battier to handle the play-calling).
B^2
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Ariza was put in roles he's never been put into
he’s always been a good sixth man, and role player all together. Yes he does suck when you depend on him to move your offense or create his own shots, but if you put him in at a role player position he can put down a shot in the most crucial of situations. Over all I wouldn’t be able to tell you long run if Courtney Lee is going to develop into a better player, but for right now, Ariza has already flourished in playoff situations, the lakers wouldn’t have won the championship without him. I see him somewhat as an under developed Robert Horry. Horry wouldn’t run a team, but he was always a great sixth man to knock wide open jumpers down.
And lee is smaller then ariza, and battier is getting older.
So whos gona be our 3 in our “championship contending” team for the future? Oh wait, this maybe a step for the master move to get Iggy or Granger. Just my guess. Or they expect Bud to defend the 3 like Ariza.
Why though?
Lee is a really good defender and has a higher upside. He actually can dribble the ball and it’s salary relief. What’s the problem?
www.TheDreamShake.com Co-Founder and Writer
I agree
Higher upside for the future at a lower price and it’s difficult to compare last years team to this years because having someone over 6-9 matters when you play in the NBA!!! Yes, last yr’s team was bad defensively, but saying we will be even worse is ignoring the additions of two 7-footers and only thinking about losing Ariza
Mike, thanks for the argument for D
unless lee really brings great D, as good as Ariza then this is a bad idea. At this point it looks more like salary.
I hope another deal is in the offing.
To be fair
Courtney Lee is essentially the same player as Ariza, Not as freakishly long of a set of arms, a better dribbler, and about the same kind of 3 point shooter, a fine defender(it was his calling card with the magic, great anticipation).
Not that I like the getting undersized trend, Courtney lee is not awful, throw a couple pick from NO or NJ my way, and I’ll totally be cool with it
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Thanks Guys We’ll Deff Win the Division after this..Chalk it Up
As a Laker fan, I feel bad for Trevor Ariza
The funny part about this is that Ariza got ditched by LA for wanting a contract about $8-9 million per year (or atleast, his agent pushed him for that) in exchange for the better player in Artest for the MLE. Houston signed Trevor for what LA wanted to sign him for, and probably would have even with Artest available had his agent not tried to play hardball. So… long story short… on a championship club, paying a good role player, a 5th wheel so to speak, $5 million was acceptable to them. Funny how it’s not to Houston.
I felt bad for him...till I realized he was going to play with Chris Paul and David West
Shrewd move by the Hornets though. Only New Jersey lost in this deal. Houston got cap relief and the actual Battier 2.0, New Orleans got a wing scorer to compliment its 2 best guys, and Indiana got a young PG to go with Danny Granger. Jersey got Troy Murphy…ugh.
B^2
"Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that."
Stewie Griffin-Family Guy
Troy Murphy is no slouch
and he’s a big chunk of expiring cash
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