According to Sources, Carmelo Would be Open to Multiyear Deal With Houston
by Mike Kerns on Aug 18, 2010 12:11 PM CDT
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Take it for what it's worth, but according to Chris Mannix at Sports Illustrated Carmelo Anthony has said that the Knicks may be his favorite, but they aren't his only choice.
Multiple league sources familiar with his situation told SI.com that Anthony would also be open to signing a long-term deal with Houston or New Jersey should either of those teams offer the Nuggets an acceptable trade package.
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already tweeted to Daryl Morey
told him I’d pay for his lunch today, that he should miss to get this deal done
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
my bad
thought you were linking something else there…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
How serious is he?
As ppl mentioned before Houston is always mentioned. Maybe Denver front office told him to say it since they can gut us out of the most attractive assets.
so if tru
NJ/HOU/NYK
If it’s Us its Double Win
If it’s NYK it’s double Loss
If it’s NJ its split
HOU – We get Melo and NYK’s pick will be good
NYK – They get Melo and their picks will not be lotto picks
NYJ – Who cares
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
Are you "HeyDude" on Clutchfans?
If not, someone stole your line:
um….Morey, you may want to skip lunch and get to this ASAP !
no...
but I did see that line, and switched it up a bit
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's okay
I got a handle on Clutchfans. I just rarely post anymore due to the massive collection of idiots.
i just browse...
dont have ID or whatever
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i got banned from clutchfans for calling tinman a dick gobbler
clutch is a douche and his collection of posters, outside a few, are all retarded.
of course this is coming from a guy
who is butthurt that he got banned from clutchfans for speaking the truth
by ainsworth on Aug 18, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
you sir are amazing.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I here you man
my name on there was Tiger23 but they HATED that I just told it like it was instead being a gullable puppet like most of their posters :/
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
great minds think alike
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
actually
if NJ got him, then that makes the Nets possible playoff team making Knicks chances less likely. So if NJ gets him it not so bad.
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
:D
yes, that is a nice feeling!
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
haha...
we will take the small victories…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The part I like here
is the “Multiyear Deal”. So if we get Carmelo we wouldn’t be sacrificing our futures when he leaves after his contract expires and he skips town to NY.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions
Something interesting I just read
Is it possible to move Battier in the deal, with him agreeing to buy out? Then we can resign him for a little less money and multiple years assuming he agrees to it (He seems like he would, beeing a team player, etc.)
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions
Absolutely.
In fact he would likely be bought out. He does seem to love it here, but how would he react to being traded? Unless there is a handshake agreement with the team and him beforehand.
But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I’m resisting the urge to hit up the Trade Machine on ESPN…barely.
JUST DO IT!
or I will for you!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Do it
I’m curious
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
And it's blocked on mine for some reason
apparently it falls into the “games” category. Stupid ESPN putting that in the link!
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not sure how you get TPE in the machine
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
oh yeah!
I’d forgotten about that! haha wow, we are so set up to make this trade!
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Note to my doubters: Go fuck yourselves
Just kidding, but I honestly thought the Rockets had a shot on this one ;-)
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Who doubted you?
I thought we had as much a shot as anybody. But thought it would be for just a rental.
Seriously just a joke
But a lot of people did say the Rockets had no shot at the long term deal
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Yeah I was one of them
I’m just so use to being shunned by the super stars of this league, I guess I’m a bit jaded…I mean the last time a super star wanted to come here was T-Mac.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I will admit to being one of those.
Thought New York with CP3 was a done deal. Maybe Melo doesn’t have a vag like the trio of idiots in South Beach.
Or maybe CP3 is serious about staying in NO?
or the fact that the extension is only 3 years. Who knows
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TBH,
NY suits Melo the best. Hes from Brooklyn, went to Syracuse, his wife LaLa works or worked in NY for MTV (I don’t watch MTV anymore so i duno if shes still there). NY just seems to be best place for him.
so....
none of it has to do with basketball, right?
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Basketball players aren't ppl anymore?
Do lke your job? How much longer can u stay in it? Same shit. Basketball is his job, he wants to play where hes happy. NY is the place.
I don't think it's fair to say that because
none of us even know him personaly to make that judgment about him. Not all basketball players think like that.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I didn't know
Brooklyn was in Baltimore Maryland, please, tell me more.
He was born in Brooklyn, moved to Baltimore at the age of 8 and grew up there until attending Syracuse University for college. Please, facts first, accusations second.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
thank you mr jackass.
I’m glad you read wiki and get all the facts straight for the rest of us.
by AK1111 on Aug 19, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i doubted
Now I have to eat me some ducking crow… glad to do it n this case though.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
by BD34 on Aug 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
fucking crow
Thank you Droid for auto correct…
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
by BD34 on Aug 18, 2010 1:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I was a doubter.
However, I’m still not convinced.
Primarily because the process to convince me of this deal involves all the details of the trade.
I’m open to welcoming Carmelo, even though I never really liked him, but I just don’t want it to come at the expense of the Rockets’ future. Of course, the definition of the future is vague and varies among everybody. I am sure that Carmelo is encouraged to join Houston on the guarantee he’ll be playing with a healthy Yao, and some other great players (Scola, Brooks, Martin, Battier, Budinger) But nobody knows which among those guys will have to go. And while there are some people here who haphazardly spew rhetoric about being ready to trade anybody it takes to get a superstar, I am not one of those guys, because even if the trade seems satisfactory on paper, you just don’t know if real chemistry will ever develop like it has between the guys Houston has already assembled to this point. It’s always a gamble, and it’s part of the business side, but I’ve always been of the opinion that it’s better to create a superstar, than to buy a pre-fabricated one. Still, for now I’m just as anxious as anybody else is to see if Houston lands Carmelo. It’s pretty exciting to see Houston up for consideration in that regard.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 18, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
who exactly are we going to ship off.
I would be ok with Bud, Hill and a trade and resign Shane and include Jefferies if need be.
But would think that Denver would probably want Martin to replace Melo’s offensive production.
That isn’t the end of the world but that starts to get expensive fast. I guess that would mean that Lee and Bud would fight for the starting SG spot.
Anyway, if we could somehow end up with the following team I would be happy:
PG: Brooks/Lowry (nothing seems to say Denver would want either…thanks god)
SG: Martin/Lee (if Lee’s D is that good I would almost rather keep Lee than Martin due to Melo will give us the shooting offense and we could use Lee’s perimeter D and he has starter playoff experience)
PF: Scola and any one of Patterson or Hill. I guess we could give up both young PF and go with the the backup PF of Chuck and Jefferies but ideally we could keep either Hill or Patterson
SF: Melo with resigned Battier
C: Yao and Miller
Basically that gives up Bud and Hill or Patterson, probably Jefferies and/or Battier for salary matches and maybe a draft pick. Not that bad and we get a ton better on offense.
If Martin is included that maybe we also try to get Afflallo to backup Lee at SG, which then becomes our weakest position by far.
I agree with ya on the sg position. if lee is that good on def and on offense
then melos offense would be sufficient. We could part with martin. I mean he plays 50-60 games a year anyways. And having too many def liability would be a hinder. Brooks, Martin, melo.
Exactly
That $6 million TPE is going to be huge in balancing salaries.
What would it take exactly?
I think Denver would ask for the NY pick for next year or at least the right to swap picks, plus young talent. Whatever it is, please stop trying to trade Aaron Brooks!
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
No one wants to trade Brooks
and their PG situation is pretty good so it might not even be asked for now that I really think about it
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I'd think we'd try to unload a few of our big men
and probably Shane, unfortunately.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Shane would 100% be part of any deal I'd think.
They’d want a competent SF back almost assuredly
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I'm thinking Battier might be bought out if he is in deal
and they would want young players and relief…battier/jeffries are relief…hill and Bud as youngsters
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And what are the chances
that’s he’s bought out?
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a great question
I’d guess it’s 50/50 really at this point. It would depend on what the Nuggets want to do. They still owe quite a bit of money this year http://hoopshype.com/salaries/denver.htm
Though only Nene has a player option at 11MM which he would be an idiot not to take for 2011-12. They could be WAY under the cap next year if they wanted I suppose. Which would be nice in a potential strike year.
If that is their goal than a buyout of Shane would work. Question is, why do that if you are the Nuggets?
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They wont buy Shane out
He isnt Big Z, he can actually play. They will keep him if he is included.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Also they bought out BIg Z in the middle of the season,
so it was only a fraction of his yearly salary since more than half of it was paid already.
Bud could go into trade instead of taylor if DEN insisted
also likely TPE, and picks involved as well
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
No thank you
We’ll want him as the backup and he costs nothing
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they are going to want Bud and we will probably have to give him and hill up
I would love to keep bud but I just dont think it is going to happen
love Bud but not more than top 5 Melo
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
also Battier would then be bought out in this case
sign back with houston for cheaper and maybe multiple years
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Insane!
The trade works just as well without jeffries
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but idk how to add the TPE on the trade
to make it work on the trade machine
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I see now
The TPE cannot be combined with other players to get 1 player. The player’s salary has to be equal to the value of the exemption. We would need a third team involved
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
has to be multiteam
if you’re packaging it with other players
Interesting
-1 win….wonder why that is. Doesn’t seem like we’re giving up a whole lot there.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's based on his PER thing
in real life, that is not so, as Hill, Jeffries, Bud are bench players that are replaceable
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Now we just got to wait for the tweets
“Rockets close to acquiring Melo in X- PLayer deal…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
just saying
I don’t think Harris or Johnson are desirable to anyone…but I could be wrong
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought the Nuggets signed Brain Cook last year
:P
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Just dont see it happening
Not that I am any better at forseeing trades or making them happen (that is why God invented Daryl Morey) but I dont see Denver giving up Melo for some role players. Just dont see it happening without Martin and at least one 1st rounder.
by Preastigiator on Aug 18, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
NJ has no shot....
Yeah, they’ve got a bunch of good young pieces, but their problem is that they would have to trade virtually ALL of them to get Melo……and there is no way he’d approve that. The same can’t be said of the Rockets, whose depth is a MAJOR plus in these negotiations. Here’s what I would do…
Denver Gets: Hill, Budinger, Jeffries, $6 TPE, 2011 NYK Swap, 2011 Rockets 1st pick.
Rockets Get: Melo
Then, in January when the Hornets are tanking….
Hornets get: Battier (Buyout), Brooks, 2012 NYK 1st pick, 2013 Rockets 1st pick, Lowry
Rockets Get: Paul, Okafor
Rockets:
CP3/Ish
Martin/Lee
Melo/Battier
Scola/Okafor/Patterson
Yao/Miller/Okafor
first trade i love...second i hate...absolutely useless..I'm sorry but no trading both Brooks and Lowry for Paul i want NYK
ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
same
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed. With Melo and Brooks and Lowry we are in pretty awesome shape
and if CP3 goes down Ish starting and playing any decent minutes is a huge risk.
Anyone that wouldn't trade both Brooks and Lowry for CP3 is crazy
like, really ,really crazy
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Don't let that sway you on the fact that I love both of them
but that’s the best PG in the league. Even after the injury at worst he’s the second best (he’s still the first IMO)
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So he can leave us in 2012?
Hell no
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would he?
He’d be playing with Melo on a “super team” exactly what he wants.
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Well there's no assurance
that Melo will sign an extension, kind of like Boozer did
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rockets would likely demand that he opt-ed in to it
And the Nuggets basically did a sign and trade
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Okafor and CP3 aren't worth that much though...and truthfully...i don't want Okafor...maybe if it was Lowry Brooks and battier for just CP3 then i'm ok with it...
ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is fair
And frankly NO isn’t trading CP3 anyway. Not after getting rid of Collison just for him. That was the only sad part of the Ariza trade.
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my purple skyed world is fine...happy to be one of the crazy ones
trading brooks and others for CP3 is ok but loosing the depth of a good backup I just don’t think is worth it. CP3 is going to miss some games for something and Ish as our only guard
That's assuming you have no chance at getting another PG
Which is not true
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I think you've gotta trade'em both to get CP3
Either you trade Miller or Lowry….one has to go to make the salaries even somewhat close, and I don’t think they would be interested in a vetern center signed to a 3 year deal.
Hornets motivation would be to dump salary if they decide to trade CP3, which means Okafor probably has to go in any deal. By picking up Brooks and Lowry, plus adding 2 future 1st rounders, they have a start at moving forward.
Pretty much this
Without the Miller part because I can’t see them taking him back. But no one is getting CP3 without Okafor. And holy crap, he’s under contract for 4 more years with a contract that escalates from 11.5MM to 14.5MM. I knew it was bad, but WOW.
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And how has David West's name not been tossed around by NBA analysts?
Looks like he has a player only option for next year at 7MM, no way he takes that.
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You mean
No way he doesn’t opt out?
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
And he’s a fantastic PF. I don’t think he fits on the Rockets but I just can’t believe I hadn’t noticed/heard that before.
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Hes also injury prone.
The entire NO team was built on players with glass legs, knees, ankles. Oakafor, peja, west, cp3 are all injury prone.
Dude, we would be fucked.
CP3 nor Martin plays full seasons. Okafor is expensive back up. So we would have a rookie Ish, Lee, Melo, Scola, Miller starting line up for part of the season.
i really hope these sources are true....
since many of these end up being complete lies
Here is another player who could be part of the deal
Chris Anderson could be a serious energy guy off the bench with the second unit.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I've wanted the Birdman
for a couple of years.
Would be bad ass.
No doubt. This would really make it engaging to me.
Trade speculation has Houston tossing out 3 to 4 players and a pick or two just for Melo.
I don’t think Houston will do this without an additional piece, and Birdman would be choice considering the Rockets could move out an SG and SF for Melo, and a PF and another SF for Birdman. If the SG is Martin, what are the chances Houston could get JR Smith too?
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 18, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Birdman is a crowd favorite tho,
and pretty cheap. Dunno if they will trade him. Hes essentially the same value as a #1 pick rookie with his contract but hes proven he can play and posterize anybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ksqrFQPgU
The BANHAMMER delivers the real justice
That's just turrible
this makes much more sense
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
add a NY pick and some TPE case and its all good
by rocketballa4life on Aug 18, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
yo you have to save the trade to post it
that just takes you right to the trademachine.
Request
Can y’all recap your trades in general when quoting the trade machine?
Some of us have it blocked at work…
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Some of the trades posted were silly
Like Jeffries + Battier + A Johnson + J Taylor for Carmelo lol
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I had
Jeffries to Indiana, and TJ Ford and Shane to Denver with enough room for cash/draft picks for Melo
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does Denver need a PG though
They have Lawson and Billups already.
Though I’d guess they’d trade Billups right after Anthony
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That was just an example
I guess we’d need to find another team with an expiring deal we can use the TPE on
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
silly for the nuggets
AWESOME FOR THE ROCKETS!
My Trade Machine Trade
Battier
Jeffries
Budinger
Hill
Pick
TPE
for
Melo
cash
Battier then bought out, resigns with houston
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
They would keep Battier
He is relativley cheap and would give them a year of good play. His deal is expiring. They wouldnt buy him out.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Yeah, it is.
When you only have to pay it one year. Besides, you would have to pay it to buy him out anyway. So yes, it is. They wont buy Battier out if he is involved.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
sure, who works at work
Rockets: Melo, i would add a NY pick but ESPN cant. maybe some TPE cash
Nuggets: Battier, Jeffries, Jordan Hill
Rockets’ Hollinger: +8 wins
Nuggets " ": -9 Wins
PS: Do you think GMs use this trade machine ever?
by rocketballa4life on Aug 18, 2010 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
To be realistic
Bosh said Houston was on his radar, too. It would be nice if Carmelo came to Houston. This talk about Anderson needs to go though, that guy is a clown.
MIA 3 was more enticing to him
can’t blame him there
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but he didn't say that until after Morey talked to him
Before that he never mentioned the Rockets if I recall correctly.
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Anyone think NYK would get involved in a 3 way trade
if they want jeffries that is, maybe we take someone from them and ship them to DEN…would NYK get involved if they lose out on Melo
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions
What would they stand to gain?
The only reason they wanted Jeffries was to get rid of Curry and get someone that can actually contribute to the team
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28aa2w6
This trade would be
HOU: Melo
NYK: Karl, Jeffries
DEN: Hill, Bud, Curry, Battier, Picks, TPE
Battier then bought out, go back to Houston
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You can't trade George Karl
This isn’t 1960’s baseball ;-)
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is it wrong of me to distrust players ?
Sure he is open to signing extensions, but will he? Melo already is not playing it straight with Denver, what’s stopping him from doing the same with us. It seems Melo is pretty keen on NYC and form a super team, he made that pretty clear, and that makes me a bit apprehensive, and Denver is by no means an awful team, even without him, they may still manage to be a pretty solid team. So how far will he go to get near that elusive ring?
People cant shit on Melo for his defense and general knuckleheadednes, but he is a hands down top ten player in the league no if or but about it. While I’m not a fan of his game, it is a fact that it is effective and needs to be respected. We have assets and if Denver really is eyeing to rebuild quickly, we can make it enticing as hell, I wouldnt mind trading one of the NYC picks to further lower Denver’s interest in helping NYC in any way, Hell involve the kings again and let us help with that front court log jam
Battier in the deal,
one or both draft picks, the 6 milion trade exception, Jeffries, and Taylor. If we can get Melo for this deal it would be great. If its not enough for Denver, we still have other pieces to work out the trade. Melo’s numbers so far have him on the way to being a hall of famer. I think its 12,000 or more points, 3,000 rebounds or more, and 1,500 or more assists in six years of play. All the others guys on the list are Hall of Famers now, except Lebron. I still think he will go to the Knicks, and the Nets and us are his last options.
by since86rocketsfan on Aug 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions
Espn just mentioned Houston and NJ are among Melo's options
I hope this is more legit than the Chris Bosh rumors.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
said
Houston – No state tax
NJ – Jayz
NoqState Tax FTW
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it's good our picks are from NY.
Denver has to be considering that if they trade Melo to anyone but NY it will increase the value of those picks, as it might be the death knell for the “new big 3” in New York scenario.
Out of spite
They may not wan to trade within the conference and send Melo to NJ
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Aug 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok, a bit interesting to consider...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2c4vdeq
To Houston: Tyler Hansborough (from IND), Melo (from DEN), Birdman (from DEN)
To Denver: Batter (from HOU in a buyout), Jeff Foster (from IND), T.J. Ford (from IND), Chuck Hayes (from HOU), D. Granger (from IND)
To Indiana: J. Jeffries (from HOU), Chauncey Billups (from DEN), Jordan Hill (from HOU), P. Patterson (from HOU)
I think it’d be workable, and a very very interesting solution. Especially with Yao’s uncertainty in stability this season.
I'm really against this trade for several reasons
Indiana just got Collison. Don’t need a PG and wont trade Granger. Also looking for bigs, wont trade foster and hansborough even if getting hill and taylor…
Denver will not trade billups. That has been said. Also will not do that trade. They dont get enough.
Dont like trade for Houston at all…dont like hansborough, dont wanna trade patterson or hayes
and back to IND. They get no white guys in this trade and lose 2. They ain’t doing it!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see Indiana ditching Granger
Especially for that package. I’m sure they’ll want to see how he plays with Collison before they do anything else. Even so, if they were open to trading him it would take more than that.
Also, I know Birdman is mostly just included as incentive for Denver and to make salaries match, but I hate players with his look-at-me attitude. He would stand out like a sore thumb on the Rockets.
by Superdave532 on Aug 18, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...I looked at it...
And realized the bigs problem. I just think a trade is VERY workable, and should be able to be completed. And with our pieces, it had better not be a one-player deal. Melo is a decent player, but as has been said, his defense is suspect.
I do expect a trade to happen, but who goes where is still questionable. Also, I do expect the Rockets to be involved whether or not they get Melo. Just saying.
I wonder if we can work with POR
and ship rudy fernandez in 3 way deal to Den…anyone know his contract?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions
Love those responses
But in the spirit of friendliness
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm
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Can someone tell me what this says...about what the Rockets can offer
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors#17962and
“But if Denver is just looking for money relief for Melo, Houston could be the best team for them, as they have a few larger expiring deals.
To the Trade Machine!
Anthony for Shane Battier (in last year of deal paying $7.3 million) and Jared Jeffries (in last year of deal paying $6.8 million) would work.
The Rockets also have the rights to the Knicks’ first-round picks in 2011 (top-1 protected) and 2012 (top-five protected), so they can add in some draft picks to sweeten the pot.
While the Rockets might not offer the most attractive package talent wise, if Denver is looking for some money relief and the option to rebuild a bit via draft picks, Houston is a pretty solid option for the Nuggets at this point."
It is going to take a better package than you guys are offering.
Id say we traded for Lee just for this, some combination of Lee, Patterson or Hill, Jeffries and the 2 Knicks picks.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Does it?
I’m not so sure. If Melo wants out, and is going to pout and generally underachieve and won’t extend, then doesn’t denver take what it can get?
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This dealworks according to trade machine
Houston Receives:
Carmelo Anthony
Aaron Afflalo
Denver Receives:
Greg Oden
Shane Battier
Rudy Fernandez
TE
Portland Receives:
Jordan Hill
Jared Jeffries.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Here's the Link
Link: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2an3szz
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
nice to see the Texans are willing to help the Roxkets out by throwing in one of their TE's ;)
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
by HB23 on Aug 18, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Ok I'm pretty sure ya'll know I meant Trade Exception by TE
But I just wanna check lol.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Don't think so
Billups and Lawson are staying…No need for Brooks
Does denver want to take martins contract…dont think so
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll believe it when Morey holds up Melo's new Rockets jersey.
Still think he would rather go to the Knicks, but we’ll see. If everything works out in our favor (not having to unload half our team, multi-year deal) then I’ll be the first to welcome Melo at the airport… coming all the way from Ohio! I’m still not a big fan of his and still think he’s overrated, but this guy is lights out on offense and maybe our coaching staff can push him to improve his defense.
If Melo at the end does pick the Rockets it shows a bit about his character, how he does want to at least work to win a championship and not pussy out to form his own version of the Super Friends, or picking NYC just for the “status symbol” shit. I’m still wary about him, but we’ll see.
If we use our trade exception in this
I’m going to fucking rub it in every single one of your faces that the Courtney Lee trade was actually good.
You're not rubbing it in mine
I was on that bandwagon about a millisecond after I heard the news
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I was largely indifferent to the trade, apart from a bit of "Well, I'm glad they supposedly got a guy Morey wanted."
That being said, that $6M trade exception has the potential to be very tasty. I’m looking forward to seeing for whom they use it.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 19, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
rules + billups
haha ya same. problem is trade exceptions cant be bundled. i’m interested in seeing what it would take to get a package of billups + anthony. i totally wouldnt mind giving up brooks then. got more analysis in my blog (below), but basically i think we could pull it off with budinger, brooks, jeffries, picks and trade exception. will be adding salary stuff soon.
Why would Melo or any allstar want to play here?
After all, our reputation was destroyed when we traded Ariza one year after giving him a large contract… right?
by goingforthecorner on Aug 18, 2010 4:42 PM CDT reply actions
Not so sure.
Ariza begins to look like the problem, not the Rockets. He’s bounced around a lot for such a young player. LA only half-assed tried to sign him, if that.
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Nice one
I think you understood the point that was being made when that discussion happened.
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so when this happens...
i’m gonna make some t-shirts with a pic of Melo and Yao on it that says “Melo/Yellow”.
(relax ppl, i’m asian, so it’s totally ok for me to be mildly racist against my own ppls, right?)
That's entirely your call.
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I am as boring white guy as it comes and I would buy a ton...
A great beverage…and even greater duo.
If we can come out of this with Yao, Martin, Melo, Battier, Lee and either Lowry or Brooks I will be a happy man. Include Bud in the final deal and I will pay for the shirts myself.
Not going to happend but giving away Hill, brooks or lowry and a some draft picks and Jefferies is a start, just pretty sure that is not going to be enough.
Either way...
As a nickname, Melo Yellow > Miami Thrice.
Does the actual Mello Yello drink even exist anymore? I always favored it over Mountain Dew.
I would only be inclined to this "so called deal trade"
only if it was a Multi-Year Deal for Melo!!
All speculation until it starts happening.
I think Denver wants more than just expiring contracts
With that said I think Houston can offer the best package.. I think they want talent to go along with and maybe some picks. NY has the expirings but not much else so if Denver just wanted expiring contracts they would just keep melo for the year and let him leave next summer that would be like 18million off there books right there which leads me to believe if this is a “true rumor” than Houston has the best chance imo
by cbchris44 on Aug 18, 2010 5:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Here's the thing
Houston can offer the best package either way. Want expirings? Battier and Jefferies, basically done. Want young talent and some cap match? That’s pretty simple too
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what about this?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2doa9gs
is this crazy or plausible?
the former
PHI – get way to good of a deal, also don’t need PG with Jrue there
NYK – Gallo for Williams is terrible for them
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 18, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
what if
new york got their 2012 pick back and denver got the right to trade plus our pick. NY picked up a good amount of forwards but ya they do think gallo is their future.. funny getting rid of gallo and adding williams ups their win total according to hollinger
What's More Annoying?
People who post trades that are ridiculously lopsided in our favor
or
People who just come in and the only thing that ever add to the scenario is “Ain’t gonna happen. He’ll never come here.”
Get some new material, guys.
by Mike Kerns on Aug 18, 2010 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Kinda go hand in hand
some trades ideas are just ridiculous
They both blow
speculation is speculation, some kicking around the tires is great and all, but seriously, with valid sources backing up something like this, a discussion is warranted, some shit like “z0mg we r get Granger for expiring deals and a high five!” really grate on the nerves and help fuel the whole “it’s not going to happen, just shut up.” mentality.
One begets another then we all wind up wearing helmets.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
yeah....we should just stay put..no more trades.
keep the team as is…something different :-)
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But
Entropy is the enemy of creation. It is.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
no we should let the pros handle it
come on, a 4 team trade that’s completely even on hollinger scale
any of these trad ideas pull that off?
How about
We trade Ish Smith and a bag of basketballs for Carmelo. NO! That will never work.
You get two in one!
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So you're saying the choice is between Bullwinkle and Rocket J. Squirrel.
BW: Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
RJS: But that trick never works…!
by DribbleHooper on Aug 18, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I know it's really out there...but...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=27e29fl
Can anyone tell me where that potentially could fall through? Keeping in mind Battier would be a trade, buyout, and then re-sign. I’m just curious because looking at it, I don’t see why we couldn’t…
i thought our trade exception was for 6.3 mil?
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
For those unable to see the trade details
76ers – Kevin Martin (SG from HOU), D. Gallinari (F from NYK), Ty Lawson (PG from DEN w/ trade exception from Dalembert trade), C. Anderson (C from DEN)
Nuggets – S. Battier (SF from HOU), A. Randolph (PF from NYK), Eddy Curry (C from NYK), M. Speights (C from PHI), K. Azubuike (SF from NYK)
Knicks – Melo (SF from DEN), S. Hawes (C from PHI), Willie Green (SG from PHI)
Rockets – Iggy (SG from PHI)
I’d assume the Rockets would throw their pick from the Knicks to the Nuggets, too, and get a 2nd or 3rd rounder from the 76ers.
I’m just curious if this could work at all. I realize people would be against it because it’s Iggy vs. Martin, but looking it over, I’m seeing a lot of parity for everyone, and Denver doesn’t feel screwed over.
How is it horrible?
All we lose is Martin and gain an Iggy. Plus Iggy is more years, though a little more expensive.
"All we lose"?? Martin can easily be an allstar in the upcoming years.
No reason to trade a great player for a great player. Chemistry matters.
And If Melo goes to the Knicks, then our picks’ values would drop drastically.
Not worth it. definately
Agree
Martin>Iggy and we lose the value of those picks. Even though we gain an “Iggy”, it isnt worth it.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Iggy is a top 30 player
You simply don’t trade that much for him. You need a SF, you don’t need a SG right now
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Whoa
Thats pushing it UofT. Martin is better than Iggy.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
by darwithabar on Aug 19, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
What's pushing it?
I think Martin is every bit as good as Iggy too
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Me too
I wouldnt call Iggy a top 30 player. I would call Martin one. Iggy could be called one of the 30 most overrated players, along with Ariza.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
If I'm to believe all the hype for him on TDS
he can also turn into an airplane, cure cancer, and circumnavigate the globe in a day.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Exactly
He’s a good player, but has a lot of limits that people just look right past and I have no idea why. I’ve seen more people talk trash about Carmelo than Iggy and that’s insane.
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i think u reply to me more than anyone else
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I reply to other people plenty
you just take exception to me.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I didn't say you ONLY reply to me
I said you reply to me more than anyone else and i stand by that statement. Look through all the posts and check. Sure you reply to other people but you just seem to love to comment on what I have to say more than others. Go ahead and check I am not just saying this.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
You should be proud
it means you generally offer something compelling to talk about. I’m not the kind of person who usually just posts +1 !!! LOLOLOLOLOL!
It’s probably the main reason you piss me off when you throw a fit and quit a discussion, you generally contribute something good, then when pushed to hash more of it out you get mad and quit, shortchanging the entire exchange. I’m not insulting you with this either, I sincerely wish you’d have more patience and keep talking even when challenged.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I talk and i get to my point
When two people make their points that should be the end of the conversation. I am not that talkative of a guy and I hate to talk about the same situation over and over when me and another person should just agree to disagree. When I argue with you you just ignore when I make a good point or you respond with politics and that is when I get fed up. Why continue when the argument gets old? When arguing with you it’s like it gets to a point where you just argue for the sake of arguing and the topic of discussion is not even that serious. It’s like you try to prolong a conversation as long as you can and I hate to do that shit so I just quit. If I am wrong for not wanting to argue uselessly then stone me.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
lol, i figured those would go to the Texans
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
How many rounds do you think the draft is?
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That's just turrible
I feel like I've spent the summer waiting by the phone.
Yeah, she’s really busy, you know. Hair washing, book organizing, studying. Hey, it happens. I like those priorities, you know? The phone is definitely going to ring. It will. I just gotta stay home, be ready for that call.
RING!
Hey!!! Um, yeah, sure, please do tell me about an amazing product that will change my life.
Rockets fans – is this you? If so, give it up.
Go outside. See your friends. Realize that the team you have is already pretty damn good, and that the grass may not be greener in Miami.
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by Xiane on Aug 18, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
…the grass may not be greener in Miami.
Depends upon where they walk their dogs.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 18, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a bad feeling about the Heat.
Somehow it will all turn to custard in Miami. Not sure how yet, but I think it will. You read it here first.
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Plenty of fans have said Miami blows up
too many chefs in the kitchen idea.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
No, I didn't say it right.
It’s not going to be a “who takes the shots” thing, it’s going to be worse. Like a soap opera.
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Definitely
Lebron’s whole Decision thing, I don’t think that sat well with Wade and Bosh’s plans getting leaked (I personally think it was Lebron’s agency leaking it so as not to overshadow his production).
Not to mention aside from some of the standard PR shots it really looks like Lebron was pissed/regretting his choice to leave Cleveland. I look at Bosh as the “fat sister” of the three. He’ll eventually get jealous at being overshadowed by Wade and Lebron, eventually that’ll cause a ripple. Wade won’t react properly to Lebron trying to make Miami “his team”, it’s rife with storylines to implode that thing in a dramatic fiasco the likes of which haven’t been seen.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
And that's certainly what I'm hoping for.
Schadenfreude is such a sweet emotion.
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wishful thinking
but I think the biggest value of all is if anyone else knocks them out, including in the finals with LA. At this point LeDouch has to win the title this year or the media is going to feast on his “decision” etc…call them the three little piggys etc…
All that being said they are going to destroy all but a handful of teams, even if they have disputes over who shoots etc…
They will.
For a while.
I just keep hearing things in my head like “This ship is unsinkable!” or “Completely fireproof!” or “What could go wrong?” when it comes to Miami.
Miami Heat – It’ll end in tears.
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is that your honest gut belief or wishful thinking effected by jealousy
all I am saying is that I would LOVE for them to fall on their faces. Let the press completely tear Lebron a new one and Cleveland can laugh a ton. I don’t think it will happen that way but I would love it to happen.
I just think most people who talk about problems about who shoots more often? whose team is it? etc…is just trying to hope to find a chink in their armour. They will be pretty freakin good at hte beginning of the season but they may get tired a ton of their non big three really suck and the three of them are always on the court. fuckem but they will be good
It's an honest belief.
It’s not informed by any analysis. By most analysis the Miami Heat should win between 55-70 games. This is one of the biggest collections of “in their prime” stars ever assembled.
And yet…
I think it’s the Basketball Tower of Babel and the gods of basketball are going to knock it down. Maybe that’s a hope, and maybe I’ll be wrong, but typically when I get one of these feelings about, say, a stock, you’d better stay away.
“Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.” I think the behavior of Lebron Wade and Bosh veers pretty close to a kind of madness – utterly self-absorbed.
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still like Wade
the guy can just play…and he sucked it up for the past 2 years with shit for a team adn still took them to the playoffs
much more than what I can say for Bosh for sure.
BDL was wrong on PGs but right on SGs, Wade is the best
It's the emotional equivalent of cheesecake.
Or even better… chocolate mousse cheesecake.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 19, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it's JVG vs. Xiane...
winner take all for the NBA predictions world championship belt lol
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I like my chances.
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I agree; I feel there's a very real possibility the whole Miami Experiment goes badly.
Oddly enough, I’m not losing any sleep over it. Apart from the occasional villainous cackle.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 19, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I know the feeling.
I guess I’ve cackled a bit here, even prognosticated, perhaps rhapsodized.
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You are just wrong
I enjoy reading your comments and feel you are a good poster. Right now, you’re wrong. We are not a top team unless we add a player who can take over games. Melo does that. Sure, we will make the playoffs, but Melo makes us a true title contender and top 3 team in the league IMO.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Well we're going to have to disagree here.
I’d love to get Carmelo Anthony, almost any team would. But I am skeptical that he’s really going to leave Denver at all. This could be a ploy to get an extension on max terms before the new CBA. It may not. Morey usually surprises me with his moves, but none of the obvious, hoped upon, ones have come to pass. I never thought we could move McGrady for anything more than used toilet paper, and look what happened. But nobody expected it or saw it coming.
I honestly do think the Rockets, assuming Yao is healthy, present one of the top 4 rosters in the NBA right now. That’s a title contender, any way you look at it. You can try to go get a player who “takes over games” or you can let one develop. The Celtics did it two years ago with several different players taking over when it mattered.
Kobe’s rep, until the past two seasons was basically as a 2nd banana, prima donna, quitter, red ass and player who COULDN’T make the big shot when it mattered. What a difference a season (and a Pau Gasol) can make.
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i think the nuggets offer was max.....3 yrs for 65mil
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
His rejection of that offer before
doesn’t preclude Denver from upping the ante though. Also, 100% with you on the fact that this group needs to stand pat and go into the season. We’re title contenders regardless of the naysayers.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I'm thinking though Denver could offer more, but do they want to get into the luxury tax or
if they’re already over it, get even deeper in luxury tax. As far as standing pat, sometimes patience can really be a virtue.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
But not max years, right?
I’m not sure what they can offer in terms of years – any cap/signing gurus want to chime in? I was thinking they could offer more than 3 years.
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Not sure, but they probably could, but i'm sure they have a
budget like any other team…3yr 65 mil is ALOT of dough though!!
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Xiane
Well, I think this team is good. I think 50+ wins is almost a given unless were injured all year. I dont think we can quite compete with the best but who knows. I think a team of Brooks, Martin, Melo, Scola, Yao with a 2nd unit of Lowry, Taylor, Patterson, Hill, and Miller would be one of the most electric teams in the league and in the top 3 teams.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Just curious,
but who do you think is a player on this team that can develop into a dominant, “take over the game” super star?
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It's either that totally overrated
most improved player or that near all star Kevin Martin maybe?
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Thats my point
We dont have one.\ Maybe Brooks improves dramaticlly and becomes one but Idl. I thought Yao would become one but we only saw flashes. Id say with alot of luck Kevin Martin has the best chance but even he isnt there.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Bud
that is the best bet I think this coming year besides Martin.
Brooks is not AI when AI was young and good….but Brooks is damn good.
Bud is the guy who is versitile enough and athletic enough with a good enough outside shot to create multiple threats.
Whether he can actually do it is a different story but I think of everyone he is far from max skill level and we shall see how he develops
I agree
I think Bud definitely has the best chance, but I still think he will be a 2nd option at best
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't underestimate chemistry..this team hasn't played together yet
so i don’t have a problem if we just wait till February to make any moves. We should let this group play for the 1st half of the season to see how it goes.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Heat didn't have Riley running the show, i would be more inclined to believe you.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you.
It’s not rational, I just think there’s a real Titanic-like feel to Miami.
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Melo is fools gold
He is a highly skilled offensive player who compromises his tantalizing ability on the offensive end with poor decisions and selfishness. He underachieves on the boards, is crappy on defense and is a poor leader. He is the type of player that can take you to 50 wins with limited playoff sucess.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
Western Conference Finals
is limited success?
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Yes
Our goal is a ring, not a pat on the back for reaching the WCFs
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
Was just pointing out
the fact that you cite Melo as limited playoff success yet he has lead his team farther than the Rockets have been for 13 years or so.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
by BD34 on Aug 18, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No...you should name your first kid "Darryl" :-)
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Your second kid...."Morey"....and your third kid....."Melo" :-)
by inquisitiveman on Aug 18, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
no name your child Batman
self rec’d
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
by batman713 on Aug 18, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
KISS
Simpler deals are much easier to do.
Martin,Hill,Anthony Johnson and his non-guaranteed contract for Carmelo works under the 25% rule. Rockets include cash and 1 or 2 Firsts.
Denver gets a 20ppg scorer to replace Carmelo.
Denver is looking for a big and they get one.
Denver saves between $3-4mil of salary(and equal amount of Lux Tax payments).
Money Denver was going to spend on another big they can apply to a SF.(Perhaps trading a First and cash-from Hou-to Memphis for Henry.)
NJ,NY cannot include a 20ppg scorer,and I can’t see Denver trading Carmelo for Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis makes several million more than Carmelo.
A TPE cannot be combined w/another salary-it can only be used to get a player that falls w/in the TPE’s amount.
Denver owner is going to pay Shane $14mil+ to NOT play for him(adding in the Lux Tax). Buyouts like that occur at trading deadline when half the salary has been pd by another team and the cash in the trade covers much of the buyout.
Let's clear this up....
First of all, I hate that I’m even speculating on this because I think these trade machine posts and possibilities are ridiculous. Leave it to the GM’s to figure something out, please.
Second, Melo wants out of Denver. He will get his way one way or another. So think about this; he wants to go to NY, right? What can they give him? Gallinari. What can we offer? Hill, Bud, Shane, JT, Patterson, 1st rounders ect… We really don’t have to offer something so generous. Denver is going to get whatever they can out of this fiasco and that’s it. DM knows this. He’s not gonna give up Hill, Bud, Patterson and both draft picks for a guy who just scores a lot of points.
Third, I would love to just say screw you Melo, get on with our lives, and start playing some basketball. Our team is Western Conference Finals material at least so far. Why ruin that? We don’t need Melo.
I had an ant farm once, but them fellas didn't grow shit
love the post and the overall sentiment
first, trade ideas are really silly, particuarlly if they just post the link that almost never works
second, we have a great team and I don’t want to give up too much. Martin for Melo plus Hill and filler is about it.
Martin is our offense with little D, Melo is the same, Melo is better granted but not worth more than Hill on top of Martin. We need Battier’s D
nice post
Melo
plays much better D than Martin (when he’s motivated at least). He’s stronger, more athletic, and pretty much unstoppable when his head is on straight. He needs a short leash though, and I’m not sure Adelman is the best coach for him. That of course is just my opinion…
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed, that is why I think Martin and Hill for Melo and filler K with Jefferies is what I would do
Ideally we could just do it all with expirings, Hill and a draft pick, while resigning Battier, but I don’t think Denver would do it
I knew about this a month ago.
Not bragging, but it’s pretty cool having an inside source. Back to Melo: I would love to have him, but I don’t think he would fit in our offense. He seems to be the ball-hog type of player when I see him play. I also don’t think he would play with Yao very well. He plays better with the ball and not off of it, which won’t fit with Yao. If we get him, then I’ll be excited, because he’s an elite player with great talent, but I’m concerned about how he would fit in.
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
Thats how the Nugs worked, I think he would be fine here.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
You heard that Melo wanted out?
Or you heard that he was willing to sign an extension with the Rockets? I’ll feel better about this rumor if it’s been around for some time.. really makes you wonder whether Morey had this in mind when trading for Lee.
by Superdave532 on Aug 19, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
It was that Melo was considering Houston as one of his teams to sign an extension with.
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
by bone31crusher on Aug 19, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
melo could
fit with any offense.. just give him the ball and he will score it.. i love the idea of getting melo and i dont know why everybody says his D is awful cuz its not..its not good as someone like shane battier but its average and for what he does on the offense side of the ball who cares if he cant play defense nobody cant stop melo and he has the best mid range game in the league and gets to the line which puts other teams in foul trouble.. just think about having two of the top foul drawers in the game in melo and K mart we would be at the line all day long
I think his Defense can improve
If he comes to the Rockets where a stronger emphasis is put on the defensive end. That being said getting him to try to fit in our scheme might create some issuies on the court which hes been known for doing before.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
I really, really want to see the current roster have at it
But I doubt Morey will reject Melo if given the opportunity. With that said, I am still not buying the hype. Chris Bosh? Did we forget already? There was the same we-totally-have-the-best-package-if-he-wants-to-win-he-should-come-here hype while in reality we were not even close.
Reliz Feliz!
we did
have the best package to offer then as well, unfortunately Bosh took a smaller contract to go to South Beach. This situation is completely different because the market is much smaller. This is a deal that has to work for Melo AND Denver. Denvers hand is forced because they will get nothing when he walks. Therefore we might not be a shoe-in but we are in a great position to make whatever offer Morey is comfortable with giving up for Melo. The best part is that we do not have to over pay/trade for him because the FO has this team in a position to be good NO MATTER WHAT
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 19, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly what I am saying
It doesn’t matter that we have the best package. I think the phrase “best package” is thrown around way too often on this board without realizing that a “good package” is only a fraction of what it takes to get a superstar. The superstar status gives players the right to influence trades without much consideration of how good said trade would be for the teams involved.
Reliz Feliz!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 19, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Melo has most of the cards at the end of the day. We could offer Denver Martin, Scola and Battier and if Melo says no then Denver just has to eat it
hasnt Melo already said he would sign a multiyear deal here?
read the name of this post
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 19, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
What you are saying doesn't make sense then
Because Melo has stated that he would sign here. So what is your point?
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He said he wanted to go to NY
Reliz Feliz!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 19, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
he also said they are not his only option
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I don't want I could, maybe, kinda, sorta sign with NJ and Houston IF NYC can't get it done
That could be just bargaining…
When he says I want to go to Houston and will sign a 3 yr extension to do it then I would be all for it
sorry but the NBA rumor mill and star egos make me always cynical of this
+1
Very well said. That sounds to me like the time when Bosh was “intrigued to play on a world stage with Yao”.
Reliz Feliz!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 19, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Would this work?
Battier, Hill, Budinger, Jeffiries, Both New York Swap picks = Carmelo Anthony
Seems like that's the popular deal around here
and I would say it works
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 19, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I would prefer
Battier if we can resign him, Hill, Jefferies and both NY pick swaps. I just want to keep Bud…being overly greedy I know but I just think the guy is going to be a stud.
I woudl rather sub Martin for Battier and Bud in the above trade if we can’t resign Battier immediately. I don’t want to lose him for just Melo
about Bud
He doesn’t hold much value on the team if battier is resigned after bing bought out (in such a case). But I would also like to keep Bud or Battier in this trade…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 19, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
everyone shouldnt get their hopes too high because its unlikely he comes
he wants to go to NY, idk why but he does, and too many scenarios has to work for us that doesnt seem likely :/ Im comfortable with our squad as is
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
Do you...
Speak to Melo on a regular basis? I don’t mean to be an ass, but I think this optimism is nice for the Rockets. This is especially so, because the Rockets don’t get rumors this solid about legitimate superstars very often.
Though, I do see the reason to have pessimism, given all the smoke screen that happened this most recent off-season with Lebron, Wade, Bosh, etc… I just think we should be excited about a premier player simply mentioning us as a favorite. It obviously means we are doing something right, putting all of our pieces together for a run. I say sit back, relax, and enjoy the show…
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
which do you prefer?
the rampant optimism of rockets fans that is accompanied by the punch right to the testicles when a player shuns us for a “more fun city” or realistic tempering of expectations and faith in the team?
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Thats a good question..
I do hate getting punched in the testicles, but I’m trying to be a lot less pessimistic about the Rockets. Also, I’m sure many people will disagree with me, but I’m not convinced the Rockets, as currently constructed, can make a run to the finals. They have excellent depth i will concede, but the only championship team I can think of, off the top of my head, that compares to the Rockets is coincidentally the Houston Rockets 94 champions. The only problem is I don’t think Yao is as good as the Dream was at this point in his career.
I think that a move for a legitimate scoring option, such as Carmelo, who can take over for the Rockets is necessary if we want to build a true contender. I also think that the Rockets have the best pieces of the puzzle now to make that kind of move. All of that combined with the fact that Carmelo at least mentioned us as a possible long-term destination makes me extremely optimistic that this can happen. Therefore, as much as I had testicle punches, I am going to push the envelope and put my faith in DM to make something happen.
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The 94 Rockets comparison is double edged
Hakeem is untouchable in comparison, Yao isn’t as good as the Dream was then, but the supporting cast the Dream had wasn’t the same as the one Yao has (Dream’s was inferior) and let’s face it, today’s game is still drastically different. See: Rambis clotheslined and no massive fines, suspensions for 6 months, etc…
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
ONE of these three will have to be included in a deal to get Melo
1. Kevin Martin
2. Aaron Brooks
3. Luis Scola
Unless one of those names are in the mix i dont think Den would do it. They would want Scola and in my opinion we should just give him to them for Nene or KMart to be added in the deal too
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 19, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
disagree
1. Don’t think they want to take on a long contract like his (if they rebuilding)
2. They claim they won’t trade billups and lawson is there PG of future
3. If the trade were to happen b4 season, he can’t be dealt
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 19, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Denver would want Brooks
They already have Billups and Ty Lawson, so they are set at that position for awhile.
I agree about Martin and Scola. I’m sure they would also be interested in Budinger, Hill, and picks.
by goingforthecorner on Aug 19, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreeing with the disagrees
It’s only what ’Melo wants and nothing else. We could offer Denver a football and an air pump and if Melo says yes, we might have to throw in Battier or Hill.
I had an ant farm once, but them fellas didn't grow shit
I feel like
Den would rather get trade done b4 season so they can establish some chemistry and give them a nice chance at a deal come deadline time if they get nice cap relief assets
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 19, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions
i dont think id want to trade for melo if
we would have to give away martin, scola, or brooks. thats our core and i dont melo would be worth it for that. plus they dont need brooks or scola. and martin is way more efficient
by FLASH94 on Aug 19, 2010 1:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I love that everyone assumed I was insane
when I said Brooks, Scola, and Martin are star caliber players that don’t get recognition but now when it comes to shipping one of them out for a bona fide NBA Superstar everyone is like “I don’t think I’d do it…” Well, what do you propose you give up for a superstar? In saying “I wouldn’t give them up” it’s virtually conceding those three may as well be stars and giving away a star + great support package/youth/salary relief it’s giving away too much.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
you may be confusing comments
I would give up Scola for Melo
I would give up Brooks for Melo
I would give up Martin for Melo
But once you add in other pieces of the trade like Battier, draft picks, and/or Bud and Hill you start to come to a tipping point.
Ideally all I want to give up is Hill, Jefferies and maybe both NYC picks, and if you have to throw someone else in throw in Patterson. after that I start to question it.
I know this decimates a strong front line depth but we would still have Chuck to be our PF sub to backup Scola, not great but we will have pleny of O with Brooks, Martin, Yao, Melo, Bud, Lee to allow chuck to do what he does best, D up on the big men and rebound.
If we trade for Melo for a 3 year deal, taken together with Yao’s health issues and age, and Scola’s age I just think that we may not have the time to develop Hill and Patterson in that three year run. I think keeping Martin and Bud are better ideas then keeping patterson and hill.
Well maybe I am wrong in that if we keep Battier and add Melo then we really don’t NEED Bud and we would probably be better with Patterson or Hill to backup Scola rather than Chuck, but I just like Bud and am being selfish
I look at it this way
How many good big men come around in the draft and stick in the NBA? How many scoring wings with potential come in to the NBA Draft and are in the NBA in general? One GREATLY outweighs the other. Add to it Houston’s injury history on our front line (Scola is the only one able to stay upright that is relevant, Hayes can but he’s offensive AIDS). Scoring SFs and SGs are a dime a dozen to be perfectly honest. To me, you hold on to your big men, especially lottery big men like Patterson and Hill.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I generally agree with you
even though that same reasoning got Portland Oden instead of Durant and we all know how that worked out. In their defense, no one could imagine that Oden will be such an injury disaster.
Reliz Feliz!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 20, 2010 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Still then
that Brandon Roy fella isn’t half bad, so Portland went big because they knew bigs were few and far between. Does it always work? Definitely not. Is it a risk worth taking because there are so few good big men in the NBA? I think so.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Yeah, when you have Roy you take the risk on the big man
but can you imagine Roy and Durant together with Aldridge.
I could play the 5th man and they would still kill everyone.
Lol
who really knew Oden would snap his ACL getting off the couch
Ok, enough trade package speculation.
Does Melo even fit the style of our team’s play? Dude is strictly give me the ball, watch me take on all comers type of player. Compared to T-Mac, he’s even less willing to pass and commands more of the ball. The few times T-Mac and Yao were on the court together, they never really gelled to the point where us fans would call that duo a successful experiment. T-Mac would dominate the ball and Yao would kinda just drift in and out of the game, so not sure if a Melo Yellow tandem would be any different.
Then you have Adelman’s team oriented offense, which I don’t think is the best fit for a player like Melo. Plus, we still haven’t seen the Adelman of the Sacramento Kings days offense yet. That kind of fluidity is still in it’s infancy here in Houston I think. With Melo needing touches and the offense running through him every trip down the court, not sure we’ll get that kind of flow on offense; our pick and pops would be lethal though.
Sure you can say K-Mart is a strictly offense only type of player like Melo, but I think we can all agree that Mart is a much willing passer and he has also played under Coach. Although, like I said, I’m down with Melo if we don’t have to unload half our team and he is in fact willing to play and stay in Houston, ya know, sign that multiyear deal. Because let’s be real, a talent like Melo, however overrated I still think he is, is worth experimenting with simply for the match-up problems he creates for opposing teams. Maybe our offense will have to change and adjust to him instead of the other way around, either way it’s worth a shot.
Morey has talked about stars being necessary to win
There are no “stars” that don’t do what Melo does for the most part from a needing the ball stand point. I promise that Adelman can make it work. That’s what they pay him millions of dollars to do
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also, I think that Rockets can offer Hill, Jefferies, draft picks and keep the core together
granted we will be sacrificing draft picks for the future, but our great core will still be there
I wouldn’t be suprised though if this ends up as a 3 or 4 team deal…there could be lots of good shifting going on with Melo and all of the bodies he will attract to make hte trade
True, but...
some star players who command the ball a lot are only willing to do just that. Melo isn’t known to be the unselfish type. If Adelman decides that Melo should adjust to their liking and not the other way around, how willing is Melo going to be to run the offense through Yao or anyone else? But like I said, this is an experiment I’m willing to see if everything falls into place.
Melo and AI shared the ball fine with each other, but I think that’s only because Melo respected AI and looked up to him. Not sure how Melo sees Yao.
Melo will fit in fine...
You have to remember that AB is the floor general, not Carmelo. Carmelo will get the ball when Brooks feels good and ready to pass it to him. AB fell in love with the ball last year and I think the only person he will give it up for on a regular basis is Yao. Melo will end up being the second scorer if Yao is in the post calling for the ball. Maybe…I can also see Brooks giving up the ball fast when Melo calls for it…but I like to think that Brooks has come into his own and would actually be the general on the floor vs. the bitch that ponies up the ball every time Carmelo whistles.
by Corey Planchard on Aug 19, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sure
Scola and Martin will request a fair number of balls too (and rightfully so, they are both big offensive threats). Hopefully Brooks/Adelman would be able to figure it out.
Reliz Feliz!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 19, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It just all depends on if they win or not...if they win
none of it will matter.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
id say that if we get melo and keep the
core together. Martin should be with the 2nd unit. thats waayy to much O in one group. everyone wouldnt get enough touches.and maybe AB too . plus courtney lee is a defenisve player , we have no D with first unit
by FLASH94 on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The untouchables should be Martin, Brooks, Scola, Yao.......
I’m reluctant to about trading Lowry and Lee, more so with Lowry, but for a superstar, one of them being gone is fine. I don’t have a problem with Bud being traded for a star, but if he departs, we need to keep Battier. In other words, i don’t want us to be depleted at one position completely. I wouldn’t trade both Battier and Bud. Either Hill or Patterson could be gone, but not both.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 19, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
my untouchables are just martin and yao.
I love brooks but I think Lowry can step into that starting spot without too much of a problem.
Especially with what he is now paid.
I love scola too but again its a vote of confidence that I think Hill could do with some starter min. With patterson and Hays I think we can set up a pretty good rotation there.
Btw Martin isnt going to the second unit. The guy is way to prolific a scorer to be a bench guy.
I have a feeling that the Nuggets don't want any player at 30yrs old or older
unless it was an expiring contract like Battier. I think they want young talent along with draft picks, and some expiring contracts/trade exception. This will almost certainly eliminate Scola. Also, they have a promising pt. guard(Lawson) they invested in already. I can’t see them wanting to pickup Lowry considering he is getting paid alot of $ now. He also probably doesn’t want to start ‘over’ up there. Lowry does have a weakness for that outside shot, thus i would trade him over Brooks. Brooks can basically go with a weak D due to the fact that he doesn’t guard shooting guards night in night out. His only problem would be big pt. guards like DWilliams or Billups, but that is why Courtney is valuable. He can guard the 1s and 2s.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 19, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Melo = T-Mac 2.0
Hey Les! We the people of H-Town want our logo and uniforms back!!!
by Start the Bench on Aug 20, 2010 1:46 PM CDT reply actions
If he's 26 year old TMac with no injuries...
Is there a person alive that wouldn’t love having that?
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MELO +YAO+LOWRY= RING
I don’t think AB is the floor general that Kyle Lowry is that’s why I’ll include him in the deal plus Battier and a pick . I wouldn’t trade away to much and then have a weak rotation. I only make the trade if he sighns the extension
i'm hoping that lowry was able to improve on this shooting this summer
it would make brooks easier to be traded for me cuz that is lowry’s only weakness vs brooks.
by inquisitiveman on Aug 21, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Why is everyone trying to get rid of brooks so hard?
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I still think we should wait until Feb to decide on whether anymore trades are needed
Let this team play for a few months to see how the chemistry develops. We could be the Pistons of 04’. :-)
by inquisitiveman on Aug 21, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
LOWRY IS 2 UNDERRATED
I like Lowrys’ pure point guard instincts. He have enough scorers and shooters around him to utilize them, because he is a pass first PG. With extra playing time his stats should improve maybe in the top ten rank with the weapons he will have. ( And if he improved his shot that’s a major plus). His defense is better than AB’s and he’s way tougher and shows more heart. Anytime a player of Melo’s caliber is available you have to go get him, considering what the rest of the league has done to keep up with the true contenders. I think this move would put the ROX in contention if not the team to beat in the west if yao stays healthy.
A bit unrelated, but does anyone know the guy who taught Gary Peyton how to shoot
after his 2nd year in the NBA? He started to shoot lights out from 15ft to 3 pters after that. It was some basketball camp for pros back in the early 90s.
it was me...
taught him everything he knows.
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