The players I love to hate. And hate I do.
by grungedave on Aug 19, 2010 3:22 PM CDT
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PrintI just got pick-pocketed at the gym. I am trying not to completely rage out and kill people. So far this detached emotionless response is working, but it's tenuous. At any moment I might just snap and start killing people in alphabetical order.
Accordingly, because I am really freakin' sick of listening to bullshit rumors that will never amount to anything (i.e., Carmelo Anthony, Chris Paul, blah blah blah), and to educate the masses a little bit - here is my list of athletes, mostly NBA players, whom I have grown to dislike, hate, desise, abhor, detest, loathe and generally wish great ill-will upon. Is it healthy? No, but like Violator from Hot Tub Time Machine... do I give a f--k? No!
The list according to me. Each of the following deserves your scorn in my opinion:
(in no particular order)
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
basically everyone on that 1994 Knicks team
Scottie Pippen
John Stockton
Jerry Sloan (yes, lots of Jazz players/coaches)
basically everyone on the Utah Jazz from 1988-1997
Shaquille O'Neal
Rafer Alston (obviously)
Kenny Smith (yeah, I said it - it's a long story)
David Robinson
Charles Barkley while he was a Rocket
Danny Ainge (Robert Horry must have had a good reason to throw the towel)
Matt Barnes (f--kin' thug)
LeBron James -- and I've been saying this long before The Decision
Drew Gooden (from his Kansas days)
Tayshaun Prince (for blocking Reggie's shot in 2004)
and I'll add to this if I have any more inspiration... and you're welcome to post your hated guys in the comments, too. Anyone who says "Yao" or "Scola" gets banned. Anyone who says "Robert Horry" I will track down their IP address and treat you like I want to treat the aforementioned pick-pocket. Carry on...
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oh and i tend to hate dallas with a passion
I find it to be a personal attack for each basket they make.
by Ivan A on Aug 19, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
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I find it to be a personal attack for each basket they make.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
I actually like Tim Duncan
The Dream Shake ...on Twitter.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
me too. he's not a flashy guy and knows how to play in a team
so i don’t know why he’s hated. Dallas on the other hand, oh yeah… “hate Dallas with a passion” is dead on…. i just can’t decide that I hate the players or the team or the owner more….
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
I like Duncan too and Manu as well
Both are just hard working, no drama, good guys who play well and hard. Give the guys some credit for still making the playoffs and getting to the second around despite being older on average and more injured than others.
Manu is fun to watch, even though I cringe at half of the things he throws his body into.
Duncan sucks
i hate his face. I hate all the faces he makes. I hate him.
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 20, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
cmon is any of this rational?
we “hate” all of these people for either doing well against OUR team or being bitches on the court. Duncans a little bitch. End of story.
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 20, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
the beauty of hating someone is its complete lack of connection to the bounds of logic or reason.
by grungedave on Aug 20, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed...its just the entry seemed all rant and not reason...
now let me tell you all the reasons why I hate Pierce…
I'm with you on Duncan
but it’s funny you say Manu is a “no drama” guy when he should be an Oscar nominee for the acting job he does on the court. Remember that time he totally flopped by faking a hit to the face? In real time it looked like he got smacked hard but they slow mo-ed it and he didn’t even get hit lol It was funny but seriously, he’s practically Daniel Day-Lewis.
"I am from one of the top 15 cities in the world. Buffalo, New York." - TrentEdwardsHoF2018
that's talent...
Hollywood or NBA talent, but it’s talent…. don’t hate the player, hate the game. dude…………..
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
I like the game.
It’s the players I can’t stand.
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Who is a jerk in person?
Do you have personal experience of this?
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"At any moment I might just snap and start killing people in alphabetical order."
But…but Brett Favre doesn’t come first. You confuse me sometimes.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
he must have a different name or alias
I just refer to him as “asshole” – that should suffice
and my “killing people in alphabetical order” was taken from the inspired wit of Al Bundy
why?!
why do you hate david robinson?
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by NinjaBaller on Aug 20, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I've started calling farve divadouche
it works in my mind
I am Sancho
by HoustonTransplant on Aug 23, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Kenny Smith and not Derek Fisher?
Wow.
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
I can't explain it
I just don’t have that hate for Derek Fisher… I just don’t.
Plus, Fisher would have made all the shots that Kenny bricked against Seattle in 1993. It’s a healthy reason why I hate Kenny Smith.
Well,
I guess that is a legit reason.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 19, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I always liked Fisher, even when he was with the Jazz.....
and I never a fan of the Laker the whole time… then that playoff last year, just throw everything out… it made me sick…
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
Heh
Must be that ugly-assed shot of his.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
Mehmet Okur
Erick Dampier
Eric Snow
Sasha Vuyabitch
Larry Hughes
Rashard Lewis
Rip Hamilton
Anthony Carter
David Stern
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Derek Fisher
JR Smith
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Rajon Rondo
Joel Przybilla
Anderson Varejao
Joakim Noah
Sasha Vujacic
Anthony Randolph
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
wiz fan here
mcgee looks like that cuz he’s got asthma. just fyi
i get the KG and fisher hate.
KG is just washed up at this point and feels like he has to get in people’s faces and be a complete prick to be satisfied with himself. Fisher = ugly ass jump shot, dirty player and flopper.
by Marine4Life51 on Aug 20, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Noah
Since Noah stood up to Lebron when he was dancing all over the floor, I tend to like him a lot more now. I’m sure that will change with the next story I hear about him whining, but for now at least, I have some respect for him.
my list
Pierce
Howard
Fischer the past 2 years
Dallas, pretty much the whole city but definitely almost all of the team
Pierce
Sasha V. (just cut that damn hair dude)
David Stern
JR Smith
Noah
Pierce
LeDouche
Sasha again, still hait that Freakin’ hair
Shaq (cause anyone who was made that much of the Dream’s bitch deserves no respect)
Pierce
Rose (for being too stupid to take the SATs)
Dallas again, too many big hair and trophy wives per square mile
Dantoni
Dolan
Really most of the Magic team with the exceptions of Pietrus, Nelson and maybe Gortat…maybe
AI
Pierce
and more will come to me later for sure
love the rage dave...keep it up...better to burn out than to fade away
by John P on Aug 19, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
For any quote from both an 80’s hair band AND The Highlander
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
nice pick up on Highlander
The Kurgan is always quoteable
It's actually from a Neil Young song, and my go back farther than that.
But, aye, Blossom, it’s a bonnie wee reference.
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You are emtionally unstable at the moment, i give you that. but
Chauncey Billups & Tayshaun Prince???
Sorry, that’s too far! those 2 are local folk heros here at the D!!! by the way, I’ll bet you a dollar that Billups will get more loves when he comes to town to play than T-Mac do this coming season.
Fisher should be in it for that cheap throw that elbow at Scola during the play off. CHEAP SHOT!!!
And you are too kind with “The Dancing Queen” ranked so long on your list.
other than that, I agreed with you.
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
simple
Chauncey is mega overrated and he continues to infringe upon Robert Horry’s “Big Shot” trademark. Fuck Chauncey.
sorry but I actually have lots of respect for Billups
the guys has major skills and leadership. Look at what he did with Denver vs when AI was there. Guy has my respect
or just look what happen to Pistons after he got traded...
enough said!
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
I'm not a Laker's hater
but that was one of the dumbest statements in internet history
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by UofTOrange on Aug 20, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think Fisher has little man syndrome
where you’re small so you have to be loud to make up for it…or in this case, throw a shoulder into someone much better than you!!
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
by batman713 on Aug 20, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well we all know that Lamar is a pussy with no drive and backbone so it doesn't suprise me that he felt abuse
if it wasn’t for Kobe trying to constantly get him to grow a backbone he would just sit there eating candy all day
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Defense=Dirty
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by Xiane on Aug 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't hate John Stockton
That’s right, I said it. I’m probably the only Rockets fan to ever say that, but I absolutely love that guy. I remember during the mid-late 90s hoping Caroll Dawson would somehow trade for Stockton. Then CD answered my prayers by giving Matt Maloney a gazillion dollars. I hate Matt Maloney.
Dirtiest player to somehow barely have that reputation ever
absolute douche on the court
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i;m sorry but I can' t hate anyone on the Rockets teams that were there for the championships
even if all they were consisted of dead wait to stand in place during practice or fetch water for Hakeem or really just make a bad fart joke, they were part of it and probably contributed SOMETHING…
…and Kenny Smith did contirbute so he definitely is not hated
Also I realized that why I don’t like the Jazz at all there are few players that I outright hate….I just despite the whole team as a team
AK47 is someone to pitty not necessarily hate
I guess I do hate boozer but he is gone now and I already hate Noah and Rose so Chicago may become more hated in my book than Utah. Thats quite an accomplishment.
But my personal hell has a special place for Paul, pubic hair face, Pierce. The greatest basketball player in the world can kiss my ass. No single player gets under my skin more than hearing his horrible voice. I want to scratch my eyes out with a rusty spoon.
My list:
1. David Stern- For cheating Rick Adelman and the Kings out of a finals appearance in 2002.
2. Jerry Sloan- For teaching players how to flop.
3. Karl Malone- For being a Douche.
4. John Stockton- For having so much chest hair.
5. LeBron James- Not letting the Cavs know of his decision before his TV Special. For trying to win a ring the easiest way possible.
6. Carlos Boozer- For playing with Deron Williams.
7. Deron Williams- For carrying the basketball and getting away with it.
8. Andrei Kirilenko- For having a seizure all over the court every time he gets touched.
9. Sashja Vujacic- For being a whiny bitch.
10. Kobe Bryant- For wanting to get physical on defense, and then being wishy washy to the refs when someone gets physical with him on offense.
11. Shaq- Ass hole.
12. Paul Pierce- For getting the lamest foul calls ever.
13. Jason Kidd- Dick.
14. Carmelo Anthony- Whining to the refs nonstop.
15. Amar’e Stoudemire- I was at a game two years ago; Amar’e was driving to the basket and Dikembe blocked him big time, then Amar’e elbowed him in the face on purpose.
I really hate the Utah Jazz, but David Stern is a cheater, straight up.
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
7. Deron Williams- For carrying the basketball and getting away with it.
Everybody carries….it’s so common now that it never gets called. It’s more rare to see someone dribble without carrying.
I know what you are saying.
But it’s so obvious with him.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 19, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I COMPLETELY forgot about Amare
Anyone that dumb and arrogant has to be hated…
He better hope CP3 comes to NYC soon or his numbers are going to totally suck.
Shaq.
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
by bone31crusher on Aug 19, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Shaq doesn't think he's better than Hakeem.
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=191345
And yes, I know I just referenced Clutchfans, forgive me!
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 19, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen
To Tayshawn… even if he’s good, that block on Reggie was sad.
Also:
Ben Wallace- the dude was more responsible for the brawl in the Palace than Ron Artest and got suspended only what…. 8 games?
Which leads me to David Stern- there are too many complaints to express. (Read Donaghy’s book for more details)
Vujacic- How did he become the machine?
Everyone on the Utah Jazz- no explanation necessary
Joakim Noah- because he looks and acts like a little girl
Adam Morrison- he doesn’t deserve any rings and the dude cries all the time
Brandon Rush, Paul Pierce and any other Kansas player- I’m a Mizzou Alum
Matt Maloney- if we had any legit point guard during 96 we might have gone to the finals
by clutchcitywillreturn on Aug 19, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
LeBron James!
And LeBron James only for me!!
I live in Ohio so I’ve been getting shitted on for years now for hating on Le(insert witty word). I’ve hated him way before it became popular to hate him. Usually when I hate a player I can at least respect his game, e.g., Kobe. But with LeBron I hate him and his overrated-piece-of-shit game! Thank god the majority of Ohio is finally starting to see what I have been seeing all these years in LeBron because another year of rah-rah-rah Cavs #1, LeBron is the G.O.A.T…. I’d probably would’ve jumped!
I lied...
I also hate with a passion the following:
- Dwight Howard
- Chris Paul
- And any of these young guns crowned the best this and best that by ESPN and the weak sauce NBA.
I would like to Hot Tub Time Machine back when the NBA was actually watchable and the players likable to a certain extent.
Dwight Howard
???
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 19, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
how long has he been in the league and still only has one offensive move
the dunk
yeah..that qualifies as an allstar.
Ben Wallace is (more like was) a defensive beast as well but people don’t worship him becuase the guy isn’t a clown.
And even though I hate current sumo shaq, I still think he is a bitch for stealing someone else’s nickname unless it is Sasha’s or Pierce’s, cause they both blow
My sentiments exactly.
Howard is only considered “the best center in the NBA” because he won the Dunk Contest and has a bit of charisma. Other than that, his own teammates don’t even trust him with the ball when it matters. Yao eats him alive.
In his Pistons days, Big Ben’s defense > Howard’s.
is it his fault EPSN
says his the best center in the league? I don’t think so…
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Still doesn't change the fact that Howard is still overrated.
ESPN labeling him the best whatever just makes him EVEN MORE overrated. If Howard didn’t buy into all the hype he probably would have more than one post move by now, ya know, he’d be actually working on his game more during the off season. Maybe he does work on his game a lot and he’s just a mentally challenged, overpaid basketball star that has hit the ceiling. Either way, Dwight Howard is garbage.
Howard isn't a garbage player, he's just miscast as a star.
Could he have done more with his talent, we’d like to think so, but Ben Wallace never found an offensive game.
The fact that Howard scores as much as he does with no real offensive moves is actually pretty amazing. Imagine if Howard had an inside game like Scola…
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Imagine if Howard had an inside game like Scola
Don’t even want to think about that.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Bible thumper Dwight Howard stalked pornstar Mary Carey and flashed his cock at her.
Not hating him for that, but the guy is about as phony as his “best center” status. And yes, Shaq would like his nickname back.
“Hi, I’m Dwight Howard. I can’t even come up with an original nickname for myself and you guys are trying to tell me to figure out a post game? Puuuuhleeeese… I rather watch myself dance in front of the mirror!”
by Type G on Aug 22, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
is it his fault EPSN says his the best center in the league? I don’t think so…
Yeah it is Dwight sure does encourage ESPN by running around calling himself superman and calling Shaq out
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
Who cares if he calls himself Superman?
Really don’t know why everyone is so bend out of shape about Dwight Howard’s nicknames and lack of post game. Sure he’s a bit over-hyped, but not as much as you’re making him out to be.
He is a defensive beast. He is the best player on the Magic’s team. And he took his team to the Finals and Conference Finals (sure in the East, but it’s still a great accomplishment). He’s a good player! And he’s one of the good guys in the league. Doesn’t get in trouble with the law and is a good ambassador for the game.
Don’t get the hate.
Oh and I’m sure that Dwight calling himself “Superman” is the reason he’s over hyped. Yeah, that’s it. Jeeze.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 21, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly?
I I had shoulders and arms like Dwight Howard, I’d be tempted to call myself superman, too.
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Superman isnt black
Besides its not Dwights fault hes overhyped, but the fact remains ‘Superman’ is one of ESPNs overhyped highlight media boys who does alot of talking for a man with no rings. If theres one thing people hate more than arrogance its unearned arrogance.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
Superman isnt black
That’s a relevent statement for what we’re talking about.
does alot of talking for a man with no rings
Yeah, you know what? I can think of a lot of players, that either don’t have rings playing currently or who retired with no rings, who’ve done a lot more talking that Howard’s ever done. And probably half of those guys wouldn’t make your “All-Time Hate List”.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Your boy Dwight
Cant make the final shot, cant hit clutch free throws at the end of the game, cant carry his team offensively, and serverly lacks the ability to be a leader because of his immaturity. Just because you put on a cape and smile doesnt make you everyones favorite player. Hes merely there to sell tickets and gather ratings. Like Lebron, he has proved nothing and will continue to face criticism untill they carry their respective teams to a championship.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
The dude is more of a Battier than a Martin
His skills lie on the defensive end.
Every year is the year he supposedly developes an offensive skill set. Its not happening.THats what you get vc and all those other guys on the team for.
He does actually score quite a bit. He just doesnt look good doing it.
Hes merely there to sell tickets and gather ratings.
I suppose we’ll just forget all the Defensive Player of the Year awards or the All First-team Defenses or the times he lead his team deep into the playoffs. Like AIDe2356 said, he’s not going to carry his team offensively but he sure knows how to hold his ground defensively.
While Yao is a much more rounded center. Dwight is the best defensive center in the league. The only center in the league Howard cannot contend with is Yao one-on-one (because Yao has a post-game, height and can shoot FT). Every other center he destroys.
And I wouldn’t write out him developing a post-game. He did work with Hakeem in the off season, and while his freethrows probably won’t improve, we’ll just have to see if his post-game does.
So I’d say there’s a lot more to him then just selling tickets and gathering ratings. He’s the best player on a Magic team who’s consistently been a top 2 or 3 team in the East.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 22, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Not true
" Every other center he destroys."
Gasol ate him for lunch in the 2009 finals. Gasol averaged 19 and 9 on 60% shooting. That was the event that convinced me that Howard’s troubles with Yao aren’t only an aberration. He struggles against any skilled center who doesn’t just try to overpower his opponent.
That's true.
I forgot about Pau. Maybe Howard just struggles against more finesse centers who don’t bang around in the post.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 22, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I've said it before
Howard’s biggest problem comes from the fact that he’s strong, yes, his one on one defensive skills are pretty damn good too, but his primary skill is his help side defense (Where he gets most of his blocks). His strength helps him against the Shaquille O’Neal style centers out there (Off the top of my head those centers are who, O’Neal himself, Perkins, and Bynum?) who will go at you with strength. Centers that can shoot or work on finesse (Previously mentioned Gasol/Yao) will rip him a new one. I’m on record as saying Howard looks better than he should be because he really is the first and final answer for Orlando defensively, so his stats do get inflated a bit. He’s still a great defender but you cannot overlook the fact that he is one of Orlando’s ONLY defenders.
Also, any talk of him developing a post game just overrates what he’s capable of taking in. He’s been in the league how long? If Dwight Howard were to operate an offensive skills camp you’d be boned if you couldn’t dunk. I could imagine the conversation:
6’0" kid: So, Mr. Howard, can you help me with my moves?
Dwight: By move do you mean dunk?
6’0" kid: I can’t dunk. I’ve been working on some footwork drills, some mid range jumpers, I just want to know how to shimmy a little and get a good shot off.
Dwight: So you’re saying you can’t dunk.
6’0" kid: Right.
Dwight: You might want to get a refund…
Seriously, he can work out with Hakeem all day, the only thing that will happen is his head will spin. He’s had several years in the league to get his shit together offensively AND had Patrick Ewing (Hated or not he could at least help someone offensively once in a while) and has developed nothing other than “Hurr I jump and dunk!”
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
don’t hate on the players for that, its a testament to the whores that media outlets have become
by elpizzysofresh on Aug 19, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
When the players start buying into their own hype...
they no longer are humble, become lazy and develop huge egos… which most of these young players have become, so yes, they do deserve the hate.
It's all about attitude and sense of entitlement
I’m never truly upset with a player to the point where I actually hate them.
But there are some players who just get on my nerves.
Never do I turn my nose up at a player just because they’re widely perceived as a bad guy.
Like LeBron, I actually like him more now as a perceived “villain”. I kind of find him more appealing in that context because it’s like he’s embracing that role and having fun with it.
At the same time, his sense of entitlement can truly become an irritant. He can still act like a baby, and I don’t respect that at all, especially from a pro athlete at his level.
I don’t like CP3 either, primarily because of the same sense of entitlement he carries with him.
For all I know, he’s as humble as Hakeem or Mutumbo, or just nice and likable like Durant, but I strongly suspect otherwise. Like he’s the bratty fratboy who’ll call you out at a party for drinking off of his keg or talking to his girl. Just seems like a prick.
And Dwight Howard needs to hurry up and learn that basketball is more than just hitting the gym, showing up to games and refusing to use a hook shot in favor of a power dunk and then making commercials with Barkley (Wade is excused in that regard).
I also dislike Paul Pierce, but my overall appreciation of the Celtics as my favorite team in the East overcomes any negative feelings towards him.
Derek Fisher earns his hatred from people every night. From people on and off the court. My main reason for disliking Fisher is the hit he put on Scola in the 2009 playoffs.
I still have a dislike for Carmelo Anthony. Nothing in particular about him, just never cared much for him or his game.
I pretty much dislike the entire Dallas team.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 19, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but that fratboy's girl was hot, even though she was rock hard stupid
I mean I would definitely go there, but, and I’m serious, she could not say a word!
HAHA at CP3/frat boy analogy.
I rarely see the guy smile. He always has that “I’m better than you/spoiled bitch” look.
TYPO brought to your attention...
above the article reads…
basically everyone on the Utah Jazz from 1988-1997
should read….“basically everyone on the Utah Jazz from 1988- Present day, and anyone who ever chooses to wear a utah jeresy from this day forward”
Its ok we’ll let this one slide. BTW, the only person who can ever come off that list is Williams if some how he can get off that team and in to red. but since that wont happen, YOUR ON THE LIST….
Dirk Nowitzki!!!
How has nobody said that name!
Good question, that.
He has his moments… usually off the court.
Maybe folks feel sorry for him for getting Carl Landry’s teeth embedded in his elbow. Not me, mind you, but… you know, people.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 19, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Mostly because Dirk seems like an awesome guy
And is from everything I’ve seen. No real reason to hate him
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I dont have a problem with him
He can be competative without being a douche about it
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
but he is a soft vagina for flopping on the ground when Landry drove into him
it wasn’t his teeth that were knocked out….and Carl cool and collected walked over to the bench without batting an eye. What a badass. Fuck Melo, trade for Landry!!! Kidding. …well sort of kidding.
Have to disagree
Not taking anything away from Landry here, but Dirk did go to the line and shoot his FTs with his left hand because he had a couple of Carl’s pearly whites embedded in his right arm. Could have (and probably should have) walked off the court, but finished the play before leaving.
Dirk’s no bruiser, but he’s not some punk softie either. Outside of Dirk, I hate all things Mavs (living in Dallas is hell on me at times) – but the man’s a freaking player and just a really good guy, too.
by dallastros_fan on Aug 20, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Dirk is not a particularly soft player
but all in all, I’d rather have the tooth chips in my elbow than shattered out of my mouth. Dirk’s injury in comparison is like getting a purple heart for a paper cut.
Just drove through Dallas – hadn’t been there in a while. I noticed that University Park had installed a twenty foot wall on its northern border. Such a bad neighborhood! It’d be like West U defending itself from Kirby with a Berlin Wall of its own. Nice to see The Bubble is alive and well.
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Dirk almost made babies with that fugly convicted con artist of a bitch. End of story.
Beer goggles times infinite!
that just makes me feel sorry for him
not hate him
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, there are lots of beautiful women who are not felons, who are are also smart, funny etc.
You’d think a guy like Dirk could meet one in Dallas.
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VN list
I’d take Kenny off mine and add a couple of old schoolers.That are still highly deserving of my execration:
Olden Polynice (one of dirtiest players ever. idk how many times he hurt Hakeem)
Kermit Washington
Detleff Schrempf
Dennis Johnson
Robert Parrish
Hornacek Danny Ainge
Ok, I see all those guys but
Detlef. Why the hate for the Schrempf?
And Danny Ainge – thank you – God what a prick that guy was and is.
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LOL
We usually held the reign man and payton, but Detlef was relentless against us. Detlef was usually the main reason we lost against Sonics.
Kinda like when Mad Max actually held MJ down pretty well (which there was an interview back in day, maybe SI, where MJ said Mad Max was THE most challenging defender against him) and Hakeem held down the Bulls’ block, as always. When the Bulls beat us, it was usually because Scottie would be off the charts. Part of reason for Rudy and Dawson’s infatuation w/ Pippen, IMO.
Plus, Detlef’s haircut was ridiculous. lol
I should’ve added Kevin McHale also.
Michael Cage n AC Green
forgot to add as well.
Mostly for the jheri curl. lol (jk)
Ok
See, I don’t hate guys for playing well against us. I hate them for being aholes, alleged rapists, etc.
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OK
well, when I relate hate as is portrayed in this post in my subjective universe, I don’t correlate it to me actually hating them due to some off-court occurence (except in an EXTREME situation like fathering children and fighting to the death not to support them after making tens of millions of dollars) I see it as hating them in the context of basketball.
So, when the Sonics were throwing us out of the playoffs due to maybe their 3rd/4th best player having career and All-Star worthy nights against us consistently over many years—→I consider that frustrating and basketball worthy hate.
I guess we’ll agree to disagree and I believe we have different definitions or scope of hate as it relates to this post.
TY for your time
Cheers
Also
I’ve never heard of Parrish or Dennis Johnson (GRHS) ever referred to as assholes, rapists, or etc outside of basketball. Sure, Parrish smoked a little reefer, but that does not make him an a-hole.
I don’t like them because they destroyed the Rockets.
What exactly outside of playing well against the Rockets did these gentleman do to receive ur vitriol?
I remember those playoffs.
I could never work up much hate for the Sonics. Payton was annoying, but he annoyed everyone.
I know what you mean, though.
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Nobodies perfect
don’t post much, but been reading TDS, BRB, and previously DGDB&D for quite awhile.
Appreciate ur editorials and posts on all sites. Highly entertaining and @ times insightful—> when want them to be. lol.
maybe some of these people need to buy a sense of humor?
Keep up the prodigious work my friend.
wow...way to much Maker's Mark
*nobody’s—-nobody is… whichever way u want it…lol
pretty brutal on my part
The current crop of Boston Celtics, on balance, I dislike intensely. I’m glad KG finally got a ring… but when the dude’s on the court, he’s a complete sphincter muscle not worthy of slowing down for in a crosswalk.
Lamarcus Aldridge
So much talent. Such little work ethic.
don't knock a longhorn man...and the guy shows up every game and carried Portland at times when Roy went out
I don’t see his lack of work ethic at all, though I don’t see that much of Portland (unfortunately)
He could be a top 5 PF
He doesn’t work on his defense or his post game…just mid range jumpers. He really hasn’t improved since his second year in the league
no hate for anyone, but...
How does Jalen Rose not make this list for breaking Mario Elie’s wrist in one of the cheapest take downs ever? The reason people forget that is because Denver never did anything when they had Rose and he didn’t become a star until he went to Indiana.
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 19, 2010 7:13 PM CDT reply actions
OH YEA!
but i hate him because he always and i mean always overlooks the rockets. last year he said we would be last in the west and i will never 4giv him for that
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
damn, i didn’t even know all that. so, he breaks Mario Elie’s wrist and then dogs us fifteen years later. I think actual hate is justified here (not really, but still)
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 19, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
So true
He acted like with us not having a superstar it’d be a miracle to get 10 wins. Absolutely no respect for the team concept. Which is probably why he never won anything at any level. His “analysis” in general is a joke. The guy’s an idiot.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 24, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Dave, I'm a little surprised there is no other nuggets players on this list
Birdman (never trust someone with neck tattoos…think about it even Ariza has them)
K-mart (see above)
JR Smith (it’s time to grow up buddy)
AK47 (need a tissue mate?)
Thank god we are past the Rafer Years
duuuuude.
I love birdman for the simple fact he was kicked out of the league for smoking weed, then came back to get rich and pretend to be gangster
by elpizzysofresh on Aug 19, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
he went to Blinn Junior College and is in the league now isnt that enough?
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 20, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
It should be.
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My list
1. Derek Fisher
2. Vujacic
3. AK47
4. Fisher
5. Manu
6. Pau (good player, I just can’t stand him)
7. Varejao
8. Fisher
9. ALL OTHER JAZZ PLAYERS/Coaches/staff/Fans
10. Lebron
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 19, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions
DAMN IT!
Forgot Stern…and heck…Bud Selig Too!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 19, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
THANK GOD
I have scrolled down the entire list looking for someone to mention Pau Gasol. I hate him because of his face too. (like Duncan)
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 20, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
duncan and Gasol both are not princesses like LeDouch or Pierce
They simply show up, kick ass and go home. You have to respect that. Two of the greatest PF’s of this era. Sorry you hate their faces but I like their games and their personalities
David Stern
Karl Malone
Sasha Vuyabitch
LeDouche James
Jason Terry
Patrick Ewing
The Fatass
Jerry Sloan
Carlos Boozer
Matt Harpring
Gordan Girecek
Andrei Kerilenko
Mehmet Okur
Memphis Organization, for giftwrapping Pau to LA
Allen Iverson
Kenyon Martin
J.R. Smith
Larry Hughes
Derek Fisher
Eric Dampier
how can you honestly hate Hughes and Dampier
if they had any impact on the league I can see some hatred but I just usually forget they exist
Hating Damp is easy
I do it all the time. When he stated he was the best center in the league, or something to that effect, a couple of years ago he made it really, really easy.
by dallastros_fan on Aug 20, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Manu Ginobli Dave?
Really? That guy kicks all kinds of ass. Otherwise, I agree, excluding Kenny Smith of course.
Specifically F Danny Ainge
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Might be the flopping that pisses people off
But I admire Manu’s game and compared to Bruce Bowen Ginobli isnt really a dirty player. He never trash talks even though he knows he can light up the basket when hes healthy.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
what's not to hate
always flailing his limbs, goes left all the time, looks out of control half the time, and flopping
but my opinion has changed since he batted the bat of the air
the guy is not an arrogant jerk, is totally fearless/stupid maybe with his body
but loves the game and gives 100 percent every game. Sorry but Manu is awesome and isn’t deserving of hate.
Maybe hate bagette but not Manu
His flopping is actually pretty awesome
He doesn’t even try to hide it or care
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Never let it be said that you're not a perverse guy, Dave.
How do you hate David Robinson? That’s like hating Captain America. You might find him annoying, but hate? Besides, Hakeem proved his point v Mr. Robinson for all the world to see, so why bother hating?
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I hate that everyone loved the guy
he’s a holier than thou Christian. He chastised teammates for looking at cheerleaders. I hate those people. Fuck him.
Ohhhhh. I didn't know that. Fuck him then. All morally superior morons deserve to be sent to Utah and wear special underwear.
Seriously, when are people going to let everyone else just live the life they want to and stop forcing it down everyone’s throats.
Ok, I am off my soapbox. Sorry if I offended, but if I did, so be it.
He chastised teammates for looking at cheerleaders.
And you know this for a fact?
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
So I read the whole article
and no where in it does it say he “chastised teammates for looking at cheerleaders.” He doesn’t look at them because of his morals and beliefs, he never got upset with his teammates for doing so.
In the article there backup center Perdue said “He doesn’t push anything on anyone, but you know where he stands.” Doesn’t sound like a “holier than thou Christian” to me, just a guy who has his beliefs and stands by them.
This article, if anything, just gave me more respect for Robinson. And I hate how Christians are represented or thought of has pricks and hypocrites. Some are, but not all. And DR certainly isn’t one of them.
Now you don’t have to agree with Robinson’s beliefs, but lets not say things that simply aren’t true.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
you are missing the point
I think he is holier than thou… and the impression I got from that article is that he looks down his nose at teammates who would dare look at the cheerleaders. Whether it’s true or not is wholly irrelevant because my emotional response is to hate him. I cannot control that.
So basically
you hate him because you think he’s a holier than thou Christian, even though there is absolutely NO reason to think that based upon the article…give me a few to digest that.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Hatred
It’s been logical for centuries.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Aug 20, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
good point
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
Hate doesn’t have to have logic, but if you try to apply reasons for your hate, then you introduce your dumb logic into it ;-)
And God still loves you Dave, even if you don’t believe it
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by UofTOrange on Aug 20, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd!
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 20, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard from D Robinson, Dave.
You’re now on his prayer list.
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Haha. Dammit Dave, just when I want to completely hate you, you say something like this and completely redeem yourself. Well played, sir.
by MadMartygan on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Rocket Killer, old and new
Not sure anyone/thing can top Utah and the Lakers… but…
Dale Ellis (guy used to kill us) – and Jason Terry.
Also not seeing enough Kobe’s on people’s lists. Or Pau Gasol. Cannot stand that guy.
Or Charles Barkley, circa his Phoenix days. Tom Chambers too.
Have to throw in George Karl, Nate McMillan (like him as a coach though) and Gary Payton from the Sonic days (and possibly Shawn Kemp too). Played illegal D on Dream before zone was legalized.
Greg Ostertag.
Jerry Sichting.
Tony Parker.
Fake ass basketball fans that come to Laker games at Staples. Weak.
(and most of the names on the previously posted lists)
dude
Jason Terry is a Rocket killer… yes, but love him for that in a “grudging respect” way. He’s got balls. He’s not a douche and he plays hard. He’s awesome.
You know what would be awesome?
Jason Terry getting his ass kicked by the fat guy in the white jumpsuit at the Rockets games. That would be awesome.
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Gilbert "F*CKING" Arenas!
What a freaking moron!
by Mitul V. Patel on Aug 19, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions
Knicks
Would you have hated the ‘94 Knicks if they had been repping Houston instead? See, for me, I would have to hate the players no matter if they played for my squad or someone else’s.
I hate pretty much everybody named in the original post, excep the Knicks. In addition, I hate these players, who were not mentioned:
No. 1 with a bullet (or 41 bullets) is Allan Houston
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Michael Jordan (and everyone who played on the Bulls with him)
4. Charlie Ward
5. Marcus Camby
6. Chris Duhon
7. David Lee
8. Larry Bird (and everyone else connected with the Celtics during his playing days)
9. Reggie Miller
10. Dwyane Wade
how can you hate David Lee or Duhon?
totally get Jordan, suprised not that many people hate him considering how bitter and selfish he has aged. Also suprised more Kobe’s didn’t make the lists but people respect his game and laser focus on all thing basketball.
Seriously, Lee is a hard working guy who got stuck on the worst of all teams with horrible everything around him and still worked his ass off. Don’t know why the hate.
Duhon? does he even have a personality to hate? Seems pretty nonexistent anyway.
Duhon and Lee...
Both of these guys might be among the nicest in the League. If so, it only proves that nice guys finish last.
Lee is only good on paper. He will never be a winner. His freakish athleticism (quickness and leaping ability) gives him the ability to coast through games, while he refuses to do the dirty work. He fails to play defense on most possessions.
Doo-doo-hon is no better than a second option at point guard on most very poor NBA teams. Also, he’s from Duke. Is it rational? Probably not. Hate sometimes isn’t. All I know is that I can’t stand the guy, and I lay alot of my favorite team’s losses at his inadequate feet.
Saw David Lee on The Apprentice haha.
He seemed like a chill guy. His game is beast mode though, I like him.
James White
Brian Cock (I do mean cock)
Hilton Armstrong
Reese Gaines
Kelvin Cato (we still want our money back!)
Gerald Green
Jared Jeffries
And any other bench rider that did nothing but steal money
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
come on, dude. go easy on the bench players
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 19, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
if you were good enough to be paid millions to play in the NBA...
even if playing is just in practice, you would take it in a heartbeat. At least they made it in. Good for them. We all know tons of them will end up broke in a couple of years after their “friends” suck them dry for all they have.
AIG.
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AIG is a victim
The government forced it to pay Goldman. That’s why it went into bankruptcy. I haven’t kept-up with the story, but I don’t think that the AIG boys made-out anywhere near as well as those criminals at GS.
true that GS made out better than AIG but the financial products group at AIG
that did all of the CDS insurance was making a ton of money for years and actually a number of its very competent managers left over time due to retiring for making so much money and personality conflicts and the guy left standing just didn’t have the brain power to manage the risk. In the end it was just gambling as they insured more and more CDS. Vanitfy Fair had a great article on the whole AIG operation back in 09 I think if you are curious.
AIG is a victim of its own stupidity mainly.
Good point on the CDS.
What would have happened if the govt had declared CDS is an insurance contract, and unless you have an insurable interest (ie the underlying securities) then all you can get back for them is what you paid?
My suspicion – not much would have happened, except angry GS, and hedge funds. So what? Would have cost us all a lot less.
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ummmm
well i agree with most of your list with a few exceptions:
Patrick Ewing- as a player, of course you scorn him, but as a coach, he, along with the Dream helped develope Yao in to what he is today. so it kinda cancels out
Kenny Smith-, you said long story, but you cant hate someone who brought the Rockets Back from 20 down with his 3 pt shooting in game 1 of the 1994 Final
Tracy Mcgrady- okay fine, you can scorn him but if his injuries didnt have such a huge affect on him, we would be praising his name while looking at our new Championship trophies.
UH-Georgetown
Ewing will always and forever remain on this list for me.
Close to the top behind useless (except for injuring Dream) Polynice.
Good thing magic have him teaching Howard then.
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No doubt
Luckily for Howard The Dream helped him out this summer so that he can forget all of this
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Dreamshake for DHo?
How about a hook shot? Why don’t we start there?
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Like you said, he taught him everything he knew.
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Completely agree
Got blinded by the UH/Georgetown, but I don’t think Ewing helped Yao’s game at all.
Mostly nailed it
Not enough Pau Gasols down the list but maybe its just me.
few more for the list
Delonte West
John Starks (i know he was part of the aforementioned team but he needed to be singled out)
Kobe (for the Artest elbow alone)
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 20, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah fuck delonte west.
I hate LeBron as much as the next guy but who the fuck messes around with a teammates mom??
Lebron
Peirce
Fisher
Jason Kidd
Billups – First game I ever went to was the Denver game last year. The guy is just a douche and was the entire game.
Durant – Just kidding. There is no way I could hate him. \m/ hook em.
Delonte West is straight THUG!
He knows LeBron is a pussy bitch, thus, he hollowed his mom out. Anything negative done to LeBron by anyone = I’m automatically their fan.
what exactly did happen with West and LeDouche's mom?
would love to hear those details.
Also, you can’t even joke about Durant. The guy is a bball saint.
LeBron caught D-West with his mom chillin in a hotel room the team was staying at.
Then rumors started that D-West has been banging his momma. Delonte West, #1 mothafucker! I salute you!
Typo... what I meant was:
LeBron caught D-West with his mom chillin in a room at the hotel the team was staying at. Sorry, no team orgy shit.
I know i'll get call "stupid", but i have to ask...
is this really true? because this is NOT the only place I saw people “link” Junky West with Dancing Queen’s mom. but this is wild…
and yes,
Anything negative done to LeBron by anyone = I’m automatically their fan.
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
Go read any Cavs board on this matter.
It’s Jerry Springer outrageous, but I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it’s quite true. Supposedly other players have hooked up with mommy LeBron as well, not just Delonte; although, I think that is more rumor than truth.
wow...thats pretty fucking terrible of West to do that
not that I care about LeDouche at all just that I think there are few things colder. Maybe at some point LeDouche can call West (step) DADDY
The question is...
who initiated the relationship to began with? My Friend’s Hot Mom Delonte or slutty mommy Mrs. James?
There is one TRUTH in all of this though… that the reason LeBron choked against the Cs was NOT because of said incident. LeBron just sucks at basketball.
I dunno, Delonte and Mrs James are both consenting adults. Let them do what they like as long as there are no kids being mistreated.
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Stuart Scott..
Whenever there’s a basketball game on TV and he’s covering it, he becomes my most hated guy in the building.
Chris Berman is an entirely different can of worms for me but he doesn’t do NBA.
The problem with Scott is that his act ran out years ago, but his career is still rolling along.
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Excuse me Dave, you forgot the nickname Kenny made up for himself.
Kenny " the jet " Smith
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Yes - this has bothered me for some time
WTF? Where did the “Jet” come from? I certainly never heard that nickname when he was, you know, still playing…
I still don’t hate the guy, but making up your own nickname is very sad.
by dallastros_fan on Aug 20, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
lmao
Kenny made up that nickname for himself? Well I suppose there are a lot of athletes who do that. But you’ve gotta be on the Kobe/Shaq/Le…nevermind…level to get away with it. I mean it’s BAD when a guy like Sasha Vujacic and you make up a lame nickname like “The Machine” for yourself.
Just…don’t.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 21, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok. This has always perplexed me. I watched pretty much every rocket game during the kenny smith days. I never one time heard anybody call him Kenny “the jet” Smith. Where did this really come from?
by MadMartygan on Aug 23, 2010 10:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Calvin Murphy
I hate him for leaving rockets broadcasting and letting Matt Bullard and Clyde to Broadcast.
Matt just complains about flopping and officiating the whole game and Clyde calls anyone an all-star and cracks some corny ass jokes. I love em both though. Oh yea and Van Chancelor was just plain annoying.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
He got fired, didn't quit.
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well...
Wasn’t it more along the lines of “Calvin, how about you just not come back… you getting accused of rape by your 14 kids doesn’t look good for any of us”…????
Hate ! Hate ! Hate !
Kobe has to be number one on my list.
Derek Fisher
Shawn Kemp
Greg Ostertag ( and any Jazz player ever)
The city of Dallas
David Robinson
Pao Gasol
David Stern
NBA officials
(Superstar calls )
Reggie Miller and his sister
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Cheryl I get
But Reggie is awesome. Always will be. The 30 for 30 ep sealed it, too.
“oh, if I’d have known that [about someone’s mom yelling at Starks] I definitely would have used that”. brilliance.
Regie Millar is always on TNT
Trying to shove his damn greatness down our throats. Hes a terrible commentator that needs to fuck off.
Have you ever had feelings for a nun?
Van Gundy
I know he was our coach and everything but sometimes he says the dumbest things ever.
I don’t hate him per se but he just really gets under my skin with all of his comments.
But he is a relentless cheerleader of Battier, which is pretty awesome.
Just his voice is kind of like nails on a chalkboard
JVG as a coach
hated the media and says the most generic thing, but he also looked like he got cancer and lost a great deal of hair while coaching the Rox(and he didnt had much to begin with), so I respect him for his devotion
JVG as a commentator aint terrible, especially with Marc Jackson
Bonzi Wells
For being a douche-tard. JVG for the reasons stated above, and drum roll please……………….. Rick Adelman for never calling a frickin’ time out when we need one. Dude isn’t that great of a coach. Sorry had to go there.
Go Rox!
Hey Les! We the people of H-Town want our logo and uniforms back!!!
by Start the Bench on Aug 20, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
I have the exactly opposite opinion of RA
the man has done a ton with a little…or a lot of injuries.
he is going to have every other team we face this year sucking air with his quick passes, ball movement offense, and his deep bench continually putting in fresh faces to keep the other team on their heels.
Lovin Sleepy!!!
Eh...
He does have his good qualities but, has anyone won anything with his offensive scheme?
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by Start the Bench on Aug 20, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
offensive scheme psh...
you over estimate NBA player’s ability to follow and underestimate chaotic nature of the game and players. Even big chief triangle has a hard time keeping his scheme going on the court(which is usually when he calls a time out and put Walton on the court)
Defense has been the shining key for a large number of past titles
Can't believe this town forgot our hatred for the Bills (sorry for the reminder. that game still kills me).
BILL WALTON (‘86 Celtics and as an announcer/Rocket-basher in the 90’s)
BILL CARTWRIGHT (smashed Akeem’s eye socket with that stupid elbow of his)
BILL LAIMBEER (talk about cry baby and cheap shot artist & master flopper)
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Frank Reich ? That Bill ?
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Wes Welker
That is all.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Sasha Vujacic!!!!
I would love to just BITCH SLAP him!!!!!
But my one and only from the beginning of time…….
DAVID STERN!!!! I COMPLETELY DETEST HIM, AND HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NBA! HE HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYED IT!!!
There are a lot of bad points about D Stern. Lots.
But to say he’s destroyed the NBA is silly.
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David Stern MADE the NBA into what it is today, one of the great commissioners in all of sports. EVER
by jayhan14 on Aug 23, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're both right.
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my most hated jazz players of all time.
Greg Ostertag, Jeff Hornacek,Andrei Kirilenko and Matt Harpring.
The only jazz player i liked was “pistol” Pete Maravich back when the Jazz were in New Orleans and properly named
by Landon Schaeffer on Aug 21, 2010 12:19 AM CDT reply actions
I don't like any of those guys
(though I’ve always thought AK47 would make an excellent complement to Yao, back when AK was good, anyway)
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While we're serving Hate-a-rade...
I have to poor a glass to Jeff Hornacek and that stupid fucking free throw ritual he did. Plus, he looks more like a guy that should be working at a scrapbook store than an NBA player.
Don't have a problem with Matt Barnes
sure he’s pretty thuggish and yes I remember that “brawl” he started two years ago between the Rockets and the Suns (but be honest, watching T-mac get shoved on his ass by Shaq is easily one of the funniest basketball moments of my life). But after watching that Lakers/Magic game last season which was easily one of the most entertaining regular season games of the year, I became a fan. That was hilarious.
Kobe definitely lives by the principle “keep you friends close and your enemies closer”.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 21, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
easy
Overrated…
Stole Robert Horry’s well-earned nickname.
Chauncey has made maybe 1-2 “big shots” in his life.
He is undeserving of all the attention he receives.
I know it's dead this time of year...
But I really don’t feel like this blog is up to the standards I’ve come to expect from this site. It seems more like a fan post. Just sayin’.
standards?
When the fuck did we ever have “standards” here?
by grungedave on Aug 22, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wrote a long windy exegesis
on the comparative merits of the Rocket’s point guards, with others to follow. That post has 19 comments, this one has 260 and climbing. Somebody must like it.
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the word "HATE" caught everybody's eyes...
it’s a hot summer, what can I say??
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
By the way
another thing to hate. Dave got pickpocketed at the gym. I visited some family in Los Angeles and my road bike got stolen out of the garage within 24 hours. I LOVE LA!!!
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LOSER
Thank you for this, now I can completely skim over any column written by this complete idiot. You hate Kenny Smith? You are a piece of trash
I find your stupidity humorous in that you say you are OK with Derek Fischer but said no one could bash Scola in your comments. You don’t remember Fischer’s dirty ass screen on Scola clearly. I’ll post the link for you, it was a playoff game that you clearly weren’t watching. Are you a Rockets fan? I’m confused. It sucks for people that like this site that they have to submit themselves to your uninformed stupidity
By the way, I can’t wait to either be banned from the thread of this idiotic column or to read your reply about how you’re still a huge fan even though you favor DEREK FISCHER over a CLUTCH CITY guy. Maybe you can tell everyone about how you hate Mario Elie and love John Starks
YOU SUCK
After all that, thats what you had, me misspelling the name of a player no one will remember in 20 years. I guess that is about what I expected. Very weak
hey
You’re the one calling people “trash” and “complete idiot” with “uninformed stupidity”… it’s amusing that you’d mis-spell a word in the process. So much for you being the “informed” one.
by grungedave on Aug 23, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jayhan’s hate is a bit excessive but that line about hating mario elie and loving john starks was hiliarious.
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 23, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Summarized:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I disagree with you!
Remember, apply directly to the colon.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
by BD34 on Aug 23, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
a million times.
"You got to believe in yourself. Hell, I believe I'm the best-looking guy in the world and I might be right."- Charles Barkley
by bone31crusher on Aug 25, 2010 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
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