Carmelo Anthony Prefers Houston Over New York?
by Tom Martin on Aug 24, 2010 8:02 AM CDT
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PrintPer Adrian Wojnarowski (emphasis mine):
Anthony has hesitated to sign a three-year, $65 million extension and expressed intrigue with opting out of his contract next summer to become a free agent. Despite significant speculation the New York Knicks are the team that Anthony would most likely want to join, two sources close to him insisted the Knicks have been overstated as an object of his desire. Privately, Anthony has expressed more enthusiasm over joining the Houston Rockets than the Knicks, sources said.
I think we all needed more spice to the "Melo To Houston" bandwagon before we decided to officially jump onboard. And when I say spice, perhaps I mean the rumor equivalent of twenty Hooters girls suddenly climbing aboard and begging us manly men to do the same. Well, here they are. The Hooters girls are gesturing towards us. Naturally, we should join them.
So if there was some reason to downplay this...
Actually, wait. There's not.
How excited do we get? Not too excited. We do, however, become interested. Not that we weren't at first, but now it gets toasty. ESPN has reported that Anthony is most interested in New York, because they are ESPN and they like to do things like that.
This, though - this is an individual reporter with a reputation for getting the facts. And there aren't any facts right now, because it's all speculation. But if you want the most accurate speculation on the market, Wojnarowski might be the best source. We can't speculate any further because this - the perception that he would prefer Houston over NY - is all we have. So take what you want from it.
Don't get excited. Nothing is imminent whatsoever. I've yet to formally express my desire at adding Anthony, though I wouldn't balk at the chance to add a premier wing scorer, as long as he would agree to an extension. And by the way, in case anyone is wondering, a sign-and-trade could be done using an extension.
Get interested. The fire's about to start heating up.
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Great news
Let’s see what happens, even if we don’t do anything, I really like our current team going forward, if we get Anthony, that would be awesome
yea Im excited with or without him
besides, I love seeing us kick the lakers butts with no superstars lol well we have Yao back but you get wat Im sayin ;)
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
Surprise Everyone
or ESPN? Most basketball fans know the Rockets are something serious laying around. The Rockets doing well won’t surprise Rockets fans, it won’t surprise most NBA Fans, it will send a heart attack through ESPN and the bandwagoners pulling for Miami.
ESPN though did give us 2 votes for 2nd best in the West, even though they also only predicted us to win less than 50 games, which one is it douchebags?
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
There was a poll on ESPN about who would be Western Conference Champs a few days ago, and a lot of people voted
The most votes by far were for LA and surprisingly the team that got the second most votes was the Thunder. Thats why I say we will surprise most people, we own the Thunder for the past few years, last year was the first time they beat us since they moved from Seattle. I won’t be surprised though, I imagine most dreamshakers wont be too ;)
The Thunder are
really being overrated at the moment and people are going to regret that. I’m not saying they are going to suck but they aren’t going to be so damn high. Portland is better than they are IMO.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
+1
ESPN is only jocking them because of Durant’s coming out party last season. There is no other capable player on that team other than him. The Thunder won’t do shit in the West.
I dunno about that
Westbrook is great, Green is serviceable, Harden seems to be on the right road, and Durant is so ****ing good that he can elevate that team to a very high level. They might be overrated, but not as much as some are claiming, imho.
by Superdave532 on Aug 26, 2010 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Love it
but who knows what it really means.
Im still getting over there is a free agent i really want who is seriously considering houston.
That houston is a preference? Mind boggling.
yea almost surreal
which is a shame because we are basically the best landing spot for any superstar
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
or we are teh best place to Denver to get some
great talent for cheap, while we have to deal with Melos contract issues such as NO EXTENSION.
I think it's pretty clear now that we're a serious candidate for Melo
so hopefully those here with the sentiment of “psh please, we’ll never get him” can go ahead and get in touch with reality.
Adrian Wojnarowski has been pretty reliable, and if Melo prefers us over NY, then we can assume he would want to be here long term.
by goingforthecorner on Aug 24, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
So coming back to reality implies
that we forget that
1.) Every major news outlet lists Houston as in the running for a trade candidate because of the tradeable pieces the club has collected.
2.) Teams are capable of leaking things to the press to drive up asking prices.
3.) Denver would propose a trade that is acceptable to both parties (Or that both parties would be interested in the trade proposed by either).
4.) Every team is the best landing spot for every player according to their fanbase.
5.) Your statement doesn’t hinge on the assumption that Melo gets sent to Houston and immediately signs a long term extension.
6.) Houston has a trade package that isn’t similar to what New York offers (Player(s) with upside and expiring contracts).
I think you need to come back to reality. Woj might be 100% right for all we know but I’ll believe it when I see it and I’m not going to get my hopes up considering even that douchebag Bosh said Houston was “on his radar” after we met with him but we all knew it wasn’t going to happen (Or at least those of us with a level head did). Melo might wholly believe “Houston is pretty good!” but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll not seek out New York, he’ll extend, some other team won’t make a better offer, or that Denver won’t ask too much.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
I said we are a "serious candidate"
my point still stands.
by goingforthecorner on Aug 27, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
great break in our favor but I wont get excited until somethin major comes about
our prospects are looking really good though, kind of hard to believe a superstar actually recognize us as the best option to play for instead of going for the hype and bright lights.. this may come down to the trade deadline though :/ so we must be prepared to be patient
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
A trade proposal I saw on clutchfans
If Denver doesn’t want Battier, Jeffries, Taylor, 2Pat, our NY 2011 option, and the NY 2012, then let them keep Carmelo.
PG — Brooks, Lowry
SG — Martin, Lee
SF — Anthony, Budinger
PF — Scola, Hill
C — Yao, Miller
That is a pretty sick lineup. It should also be noted that being able to acquire Melo will open the door for speculation on getting Melo’s buddy, Chris Paul.
by goingforthecorner on Aug 24, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions
then you would trade AB & Lowry
for CP3 with Ish as the backup, I think that could work, theyd take our PG’s which would be a great coup for NOLA, if they want more theyre crazy
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
why would they be crazy
for wanting more than a point guard swap? their’s is regarded as one of the best in the league and ours are more middle of the road than anything. there’s no incentive for nola to do that.
by Superdave532 on Aug 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
i wouldnt do it either way.
Cp3 is great but the way he plays he will miss games. No way ish can be our starting pg.
not crazy
but with the production and longterm security at the position with 2 very good young PG’s is a great return IMO noone else could give them a better PG tandem, they can surely get more than that and I wouldnt be mad at that but it would be a depleting deal to our great depth
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
only pieces I would be willing to trade
Martin, Jefferies, Taylor, Hill or Pat Pat but not both, any draft picks that coiuld be worked out, Brooks or Lowry, Lee
If we HAVE to Bud…but only if we have to. No to Battier. Deal breaker.
Untouchables:
Yao, Miller, Scola, Brooks or Lowry, maybe Bud
I'm on the fringe with this deal
On one hand, yes adding a top 8 talent onto your roster will make the team better. It could easily jump us from finishing, in my opinion, as a middle of the pack playoff team. To a title contender that could easily compete with the Lakers for the first seed.
So yeah, this would make us better: on paper.
But then you start looking at it in depth and I don’t know if it would work.
While we don’t know who would be in the deal we can speculate. Probably Battier, Jefferies for sure. The Nuggets would probably want a young prospect/talent. I don’t know if that Brooks, they seem set at PG. But they probably would be Budinger (more likely) or Hill. Then you throw in a probably very valuable draft pick, maybe two, and you got your trade.
So there you go. Starting line up:
Brooks
Martin
Melo
Scola
Yao
Impressive. Offensively.
But what we lose in the trade is a premier wing defender (as well has a team leader and great locker room guy). Which imo Battier still is. Battier’s D doesn’t rely on athleticism. Battier’s D is preparation, smarts and lateral quickness. All of which Battier still has.
We then no longer have a wing who can guard the opponent’s best player on a nightly basis. That hurts. A lot. You don’t have to agree with me that Battier is a great defender, but when you backcourt consists of Brooks, Martin and Melo. Well you can see how that’s going to cause a lot of problems. Particularly for Yao who would then have to deal with constant penetration from wings. And the less penetration Yao has to deal with the better both for his foot and his strength.
Then you get down to the nuances of adding Melo to Houston. As we all know, Adelman’s offense is a lot of cutting, screens, P&R, passing, getting up and down the court and just finding the open shooter. From what I’ve seen and from what I’ve read of Anthony, he’s a ball stopper.
That doesn’t mean he can’t adjust his game to fit Adelman’s scheme. But will he? T-mac never did. And how will he play with Yao? We already know how Battier plays along side Yao. But Melo?
Sorry this is so long. Just a few things I’ve been thinking the past few days.
I guess what I’m trying to say is. I’m not 100% opposed to this trade. I’d get it if it happened. But I’m not going to be devastated if he goes elsewhere. I feel he could potentially make us a title contender, but it’s not guaranteed that’s for sure.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed.
Not that Bud is a premier defender, but I’m sure Shane’s working with him. I don’t see us trading both Shane and Bud. Courtney Lee could lock down smaller wings (I’m not sure I wouldn’t start him over Martin in a lineup flanked by Brooks and Melo), but we would lose our Kobe/Lebron/Aldridge/Durant stopper.
That would leave us pretty weak at the SM if we traded both Battier and Budinger. But if we don’t trade Budinger then the chances of trading either Martin or Lee probably goes up.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Why Battier is important...
He is not a stopper. His primary importance on defense is as a help defender. He understands position, rotations, and opponents comfort zone. I am sure there is more to it than that, but that is what I see him doing. I have yet to see him stop anyone. Guarding someone is not the samething as stopping them.
by Rookie Contract on Aug 24, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
ya hes not exactly a lock down defender,
but he sure as hell is a good defender still. He understands how to force players into a trap or a bad situation. He knows hes not gona be blocking shots but he will make the shot as difficult as he can without fouling the player. I can’t imagine how awful our defensive rotation would be without Shane around to direct on the court.
He CAN be a lockdown defender for sure
did you not see him turn Kobe into his little bitch on more than one occasion. Yes he is more a floor general and team defender but he can make wing players tie themselves into knots when he is on D.
Battier always a Rocket!!!
I'm happy to see
I’m not the only Battier advocate on this site :)
I know some people have problems with his D, but the guy is solid. Period.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd honestly
go into depression if we shipped out Battier. When we traded Gay for him I was pissed, then I instantly turned around and loved Shane. We lose him it’s kind of like trading your heart for a shiny rock. The shiny rock is cool, rare, and all, but you need the heart to survive. He does more for this team than a lot of people give credit for.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
by BD34 on Aug 24, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who has a problem with Battier's D?
If you do speak up and tell me why. Convince me or at least plant a seed of doubt in my mind that his D (and leadership, maturity and smarts) are what puts this team over the top if all is healthy.
This is not bait to get someone to yell at or anything but I honestly want to know what is wrong with Battier’s D. True he is not young any more but if anyone thinks we don’t need him to win a championship say why. (If it amounts to getting Wallace or Iggy that may be a different story but the chances of getting those guys are slight)
About the biggest knock anyone's put on his D, is that he visibly lost a step last year.
Unless he continues to decline — unlikely, but possible — I don’t foresee any issues.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get it either really
I think a lot of people say he’s not as good simply because he was injured a lot or they think he’s lost a step, but from what I saw during the season, all numbers aside, he is still one of the best defenders at his position. I mean sometimes you can do everything right and still get scored on. I can’t remember how many times I saw Battier literally have his hand in Kobe’s face before the ball was even released and Kobe still made the shot. I do realize that Kobe is a spectacular player and not common around the league I was just trying to give an example and help my point.
The BANHAMMER delivers the real justice
That's just turrible
Good post as usual
I’m pretty concerned we won’t be able to stop anything if this trade goes through as proposed. The only defenders you can even consider solid in this rotation are Lee and Lowry, and Lowry’s a midget. Then again there’s little chance DM wouldn’t make another move to shore us up defensively. Out of the top 15 or so players in the league Melo is one of the players I want the least…
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 24, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Great post. My sentiments exactly.
Hopefully Mory knows if Melo is fools gold like TMac was. In Aldeman’s system does he fit. I do think Martin Brooks Scola Yao add tons of offense, what I would rather have is a more balanced player like Iggy over Melo. Sure Melo is a top O talent for sure but so far I have not been convinced he is dedicated enough to want to work on both sides of the court. Who knows, anything is possible.
Still, my old tired line. If Battier leaves no deal.
Alan Hahn (Knicks Beat Writer)
The HOU over NYK talk comes from the fact that the Knicks have little to offer right now and therefore would have to wait. Don’t get played. The Knicks always seem to start out as the fav and within a week, once it’s obvious they don’t have anything to offer, another fav emerges. See: Chris Paul
Yes, that's cogent analysis.
You’ve got to have SOMETHING to trade. The Knicks went all in for LeBron, and got Amare. Their cupboard is bare.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Said it once...
and I’ll say it again.
This deal, if it goes down before the start of the season will get muddy.
Denver wants to unload JR Smith too.
Since they don’t have a GM, they’ll force Morey, or whatever GM that wants Melo to find a home for JR Smith too.
It’s going to complicate Houston’s deal, unless they’re able to bring in some other clubs that would want in on the action. Houston might just faciliate the whole process as a middle man between other teams and not even get Melo but instead pick up somebody from one of the other teams.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT reply actions
see that is what i was going to post.
we might not get melo but some other pieces and all GM’s know that DM is a Genuis and wil use him to make deal too.
ugh
jr smit :/ nothing about his game is team oriented.. great scorer when hes on, but he would be a detriment to our O, not to mention hes a knucklehead
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
...wait...
nowhere did anyone make the implication that JR Smith would even be considered for Houston.
However, since Denver is trying to get rid of him, Houston could be asked to move JR Smith elsewhere as part of the deal for Melo.
To which I also suggested that both Melo and Smith could be funneled through Houston to other teams that Houston or Denver brings into the deal.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 24, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I really like this idea
Probably moreso that trading away all our excess assets for ‘Melo. We could end up improving our team or adding even more assets by facilitating the trade, then go after a superstar that’s more well rounded and team oriented, like CP3 or Iggy.
P.S. Olajuwon will always be better than Jordan in my mind. it might be crazy, but I’ll never be convinced otherwise.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 24, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 on the Dream
he is just too much of a nice guy and dominant player not to believe anyone else is that good
Rescinding that +1
for the pipe dream of CP3. New Orleans just shipped out their future point guard and are going all in on trying to keep Paul. Why people are still sold on the idea that he’s getting traded, I will never know, apparently you can’t tap people on the shoulder anymore, you need to swing a sledgehammer at them.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Forget CP3
That ain’t gonna happen. NO is keeping him. Besides, the Rockets are okay with Brooks-Lowry. Focus on Carmelo, if there is any truth to this story. It is interesting that the story comes out the same time that there is good news from the doctors about Yao. What makes Houston attractive is Yao. For Carmelo, he looks at the Rockets. The Rockets have almost everything needed to contend if Yao plays. And Carmelo is a perfect fit. If (a) Yao is healthy and (b) Carmelo comes on board (without giving up the team), then the Rockets move to top of the pile. I think it moves them ahead of the Lakers. I figured there was zero chance of getting Carmelo but now it is at least a lot more interesing to watch.
Wow...
Apparently mentioning CP3 is a sin just because they traded Collison?? I didn’t even imply we should focus all our efforts on CP3, I said we should go after players that are more well rounded than "Melo. CP3’s name came up recently so I included him as an example of the type of player we should target. Of course I think "Melo could improve the team, but I’d rather have someone who won’t disrupt the flow of the offense and will play solid D. Lighten up people. It’s the freakin’ NBA, everybody’s on the trading block.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 27, 2010 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions
New contendor for the douche baggery title
He really doesn’t think much about Daryl Morey. But, what do you expect from a butthurt Knicks “writer”?
by Mike Kerns on Aug 24, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Wow
that was easily the dumbest “article” I’ve ever read. But typical New York fan, thinking that the Knicks are actually relevant and that New York the “Mecca of Basketball” (not since 73!). All they can do is sell the city, cause there’s no selling that team, or the management or the weather or the ownership or the coach. I could go on.
That was a worse read than that article on Fanhous about how Matt Barnes was a better fit for the Rockets than Kevin Martin.
Oh and this line made me laugh.
I’m sure he’s dying to play with Aaron Brooks and Kevin Martin in Texas. Wouldn’t you be?Does this guy even watch basketball?!
And he made DM sound like Bill Simmons evil minion or something. That was weird.
Shit, I hope we land Carmelo now, just so dumb people like this just shut up. Good find, Mike!
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, had a Tweet debate with him
I’m the bolded font
Not biased at all, are ya? RT @kfinkNYC: #Rockets are a joke + real Carmelo suitors #Knicks #Nets #Clippers: http://wp.me/pZq9Y-2w
@Zepp1978 I did credit LAC and NJ as most talent to trade. I just don’t like Rockets players. Have 1 extra pick (2012) but not much else.
@kfinkNYC Sure, other teams have assets, but to discredit the Rockets current roster because you got Amare is quite laughable as well.
@kfinkNYC By the way, Houston has the right to swap with NY this year, their 1st next year, two valuable expiring contracts and a $6.3m TE.
@Zepp1978 The swap won’t do much if Knicks make playoffs or Houston doesn’t. Kevin Martin, Yao never stay healthy. What makes this year dif?
@kfinkNYC I’m not saying Rockets get the deal done. Just saying to write them off as a “joke” & have no assets is the joke.
@kfinkNYC And Daryl Morey is a good GM. 99% of NBA fans & employees will agree with that. Just ask your boy Donnie Walsh.
@Zepp1978 Fair enough. I just don’t see them as close to the favorite as reported so I went the other way.
And this guy had the balls to DM me this morning and tell me my Carmelo articles were “a joke” and that I’m a “bad writer.” I would have to think a guy who obviously didn’t do his homework before writing that and posting it on Twitter would be the bad writer. But, whatever…
he deserves every bit of the backlash after so foolishly speaking off upset raped emotions
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
I'm reading the comments now
that is hilarious. I’m glad that no one is giving him the time of day, because he clearly doesn’t deserve it.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't even know how to respond to the comments
I’m pretty sure he wont be writing another one of these articles about the Rockets after getting that much abuse, at least I would stop!
what?
he’s calling you a bad writer? His article had the sound of bleacher report bullshit. Especially that whole paragraph on Daryl Morey.
See the people who don’t like DM have no reason for disliking him! They just say weird stuff like he’s Bill Simmon’s “inside source” for secret NBA stuff. OH!! And his on Twitter!!! Stop the presses!!!!
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
He sounds like a 16 year old fanboi whose knowledge comes from watching the highlights on ESPN.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 24, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
After I posted my first Melo column over on Rocket Dunks he said that Houston has not shot at Melo and to cut the bullshit. Then this morning when I wrote another one about Woj’s report he direct messaged me on Twitter and said I was a “joke” and a “bad writer” for believing what was “clearly a smokescreen”.
It’s okay, he’s getting pwned on his website by Rockets fans. It’s pretty hilarious.
Hah that's what I call delusion
Somehow Melo going to the Clippers or Nets is NOT a joke? Yeah, OK, buddy, take some Rocket fan anger.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 24, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah it's awful.
It appears that Simmons and Morey are actually friends, or if not that, very cordial business associates. Which makes them sycophants and co-conspirators, of…of…something! And there is ample evidence of this conspiracy! Podcasts! Columns! Tweets! A Whole Convention at MIT!
The End Times have COME!
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
I award him no points
and may God have mercy on his soul
by goingforthecorner on Aug 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't wait till the Rox pwnz0r the Knicks this season.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 24, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Read the title and kept moving
Can’t take anyone seriously with # in their title.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Oh you NEED to read it!
if only for entertainment value. (at least read the comments they’re ripping him!)
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd venture to say that
90% of them are Dream Shakers :D
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
nice
what an idiot
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
although technically he is the owner
not like it really makes difference since Cuban probably runs the show
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
sure does
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
“Two of Anthony Randolph, Danilo Gallinari, and Wilson Chandler would prove to be the best return outside of Griffin or Favors”
He apparently didn’t bother to check if the money would work before writing that. Because even if they threw in all three players he mentioned they would only be sending out a little over 7 mil in contracts and adding 17 mil to their payroll, I’m not sure that would work all that well. Then again who knows? Math was never my favorite subject.
by Bobbythegreat on Aug 24, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That's another thing I noticed
throughout his article. He has no grasp on the salary cap.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's his Twitter page
He looks about 18-20. Reading other entries on his blog reminds me of Bleacher Report.
Pfft
His tweets are from the type “My daddy kick your daddy’s ass”. Absolutely irrelevant opinion from an objective journalistic standpoint. Might as well ask your bus driver on Melo insight instead.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 24, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He's still at it as of 4:30pm
Carmelo is more likely to stay with the #Nuggets than go to the #Rockets
I particularly like the conclusion to the comments section of the aforementioned blog entry:
45. Bob Rumin, on August 24, 2010 at 10:06 pm Said:
It says in one of your posts that you’re from queens?
I’m from straight parents myself.
Comments are closed.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 24, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I read all the comments
not a single person agreed with him. My faith in humanity is restored.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Fun game
See if you can pair the comments on his post with the TDS owner, I’m sure many are from CF but there are a few that seem awfully familiar in their language and tone.
by dallastros_fan on Aug 24, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Last Tweet he had on the subject:
Personally attacked 48 times on post about Melo not wanting #Rockets & not 1 comment about actual package they could offer. Classy Houston.
What a dickbag.
He's getting defensive.
I like it.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 25, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
He kinda has a point.
However, as badly as he worded his dismissal of Houston, he didn’t really earn any patience or logical debate. He basically flamed, and with flame was repaid.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, take the high road now, dude.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
so.........Houston4Melo.com anybody?
or at least photoshop a houston jersey to a melo pic , like tmac & bosh. I need a new Facebook profile pic!!
last week I wouldve said hell no
but now Im more open to it ;)
Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. used to be Astros too, but not sure there a pro team anymore
I have to say
the Art Department at CF is much better than ours…
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
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The Dreamshake
by Xiane on Aug 24, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Coz we are old school
The Dream Shakers use Paint and everyone knows Paint > Photoshop.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 24, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew someone had to be doing this
We are always on top of this stuff ;)
You never know..
It could have an effect on Melo if he sees it. Shows fan enthusiasm and makes him think about it a bit more.
I think Melo
knows he is a superstar and will get endorsements from China. He knows we are better then the Knicks. He also knows with a healthy Yao and team we have a better chance to beat LA then Denver. A player of his caliber means even if they want Martin you make the trade. Just his presence will take pressure off Yao and the team.
by since86rocketsfan on Aug 24, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions
I just hope he also shares the ball with Yao and the team
I hope if we get Melo that Brooks is still the playmaker and distributer.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 24, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
China Market
I see people always mention the China market as an incentive for players to come to Houston. I honestly don’t think any of the players care about that at all. I’m just saying.
I'm sure some players care about it.
Even some Rockets bench players have Chinese shoe contracts they probably couldn’t have gotten elsewhere. That extra 100K or whatever might not matter to Carmelo but it might matter to your LLE or minimum players that are getting the same offer everywhere.
Plus if you’re interested in making a brand for yourself, I’m sure there are worse things. I have a couple of Chinese friends who are huge T-Mac fans and one of them point blank said “I cheer for the Rockets because of Yao but don’t want to be like everyone else, so I started cheering for the other famous guy on the team.” Most guys wouldn’t care about Chinese jersey sales, but I bet someone does.
A couple extra 100k a year?
A chance to play in the Chinese leagues at 40, if you’re interested?
Someone, somewhere wearing a (for example) Chuck Hayes, jersey?
If you’re a 8-12 player in the NBA, that can look awfully good.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
by Xiane on Aug 24, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In a sign and trade
Would the Rockets have to give up Martin?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
It's possible
but the Nuggets could also prefer a package of expiring deals, i.e. Battier and Jeffries + young talent/picks.
by Superdave532 on Aug 24, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Denver wants to go young
I wonder if they would insist Billups as part of the deal?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I really don't see Denver as being interested
in the long contract of Martin, nor do I think they’d really want Brooks because of their possession of Billups (whom they could deal to another team) and Lawson (who is a rising player and definitely has the skills to be very good).
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
just keep in mind, guys
that we can take back an extra player with our Ariza trade exception. I wouldn’t mind taking back Birdman if we traded Hill, or Smith if we have to give up Budinger (chemistry be damned! although I think Adelman could tame him).
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
I seriously doubt that Smith can be 'tamed'
But then again, he’s on the last year of his contract. If we do pick him up as part of the deal, he’ll either have to get his act together or spend 2010-2011 on the bench, greatly reducing the interest he’ll get when he becomes a free agent. And honestly, if it meant getting Melo, I wouldn’t mind picking him up and just letting him sit all year.
AB/KL
Lee/Smith (or Taylor for all I care, and I’d rather see Lowry getting more backup 2 time anyway)
Melo/(Bud or Battier, hopefully we keep one)
Scola/(PatPat or Hill, my guess is Hill gets shipped)
Yao/Miller
That’s Martin/Jeffries and some combo of Bud/Hill/Battier/PatPat and throw in the 2012 Knicks pick (which is suddenly more valuable with Melo staying away from NY)
I’m sold. Heck, if needed maybe we could try to pry Fernandez away from the Blazers as Martin’s filler (under my probably very incorrect assumption that he would be more comfortable playing on a more international team)
by Superdave532 on Aug 24, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I really doubt KM12 is gonna go
he’s got multiple years on his contract, and the best Denver will get out of him being there is being a perennial 7-8 seed with Billups / Lawson and Nene as their featured pieces on offense. I say they’d be more interested in getting our expiring contracts and young prospects like picks, Hill, Budinger.
Essentially, a two-part deal makes the most sense
Jeffries / Battier / Hill / Budinger and 2 first round picks
FOR
Melo
and then
Birdman / Smith (I say theyre more interested in getting rid of Birdman, who has 4 years left)
FOR
the Ariza exception
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
That's a boatload to send over for a guy who is going to leave anyway.
Maybe that’s what it takes. I hope not. Denver simply baffles me right now. It’s like they declared their window closed, didn’t renew their excellent GM who made them relevant again, etc.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Well this is assuming
that he signs the extension and is traded. I don’t see Houston making a deal for an expiring player like Melo unless 1 of 2 conditions is met:
1. they genuinely think we can beat the lakers / win a championship this year with him added
or
2. they genuinely believe we’ll do incredibly well with him, and that he’d be inclined to resign here since we’d own his bird rights.
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
Even if Smith can't be "tamed", he can get ridiculously hot from behind the arc.
The counter to that, of course, is that he can also get ridiculously cold from behind the arc. You pay your money and you take your chances.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 24, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
he is a selfish thug...no thanks
we need no locker room head cases
Whats wrong with thugs playing basketball?
Every team needs an attitude guy.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
It’s because often they are dumbasses and tend to make dumbass decisions during basketball games. We need Adelman focused on devising tactics and not on taming a head case.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 25, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Even players that aren't thugs make the same mistakes
so you would have to come up with a much better reason before convincing me that thugs should not be in the NBA. That is politics. If you have talent then you play.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I think the biggest concern with "thuggish" players is locker room chemistry.
If you have a so-called thug stirring up trouble and generally getting other players irritated at them, that can affect play on the court.
Or worse, he can wind up getting other members of the team in trouble, such as with altercations at strip joints or whatever.
Basically, that’s what GMs have to wrestle with: is this player’s talent worth the risk?
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Thugs are not always bad guys
What defines a thug in the 1st place? Is it a look or a behavior? There are players who are thugs off the court but in the locker room and on the court they are good guys. Gerald Green is a Blood and I know because i know people that went to Gulf Shores Academy with him and they are bloods too. As far as I know Green was never a trouble maker in the NBA.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I don't see Melo as a thug.
A meathead? Maybe.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Agreed.
What sparked the thug debate in the first place was JR Smith… and based on what little I know about him, I don’t think I’d necessarily call him a thug. Headcase, maybe, but not thug.
Of course, I reserve the right to alter my opinion upon being presented further evidence.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Melo deck one of the Knicks
a few years ago when him and JR Smith started jawing with them?
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
Yea but that doesn't make him a thug (if thats what you're implying)
plenty of players fight but they are not thugs. If you wanna see some thugs come down to my hood and post up on the corner of belfort and fondren and you will see some real thugs.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
I just meant
usually any player involved in an altercation is labeled a thug in the NBA. Now that I’m kicking around DC I see the gangstas and what not. I also see tons of folks in business suits… and hobos.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
That is so true
I hate that these guys get judged in a negative manner so easily when we don’t even know them in person. But I know what real thugs and gangstas are cuz i grew up with and went to school with them. Most of the NBA “thugs” aint shit.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
That's a real good point
As much as I’ve been bashing JR in a couple of my posts, you’re absolutely right that putting him in the same class as real thugs and gangbangers is pretty messed up on my part.
by Superdave532 on Aug 26, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
What defines a thug in the 1st place?
For me, it’s behavior. I don’t care how they look. I just care how they behave. In the above example (Gerald Green), he may be a Blood, but since he doesn’t get into trouble, he wouldn’t fit my definition of “thug”.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
A thug to me is a
grimy ass mutha fucka who don’t give a damn about consequences of their actions. Thugs don’t think twice they “shoot first and ask questions last”. and so on….
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Can't wait for the season to just start... ugh.
So all these trade rumors, free agency bullshit will finally be behind us. This summer has been WWE ridiculous.
your going to have to put up with it until the trade deadline… I dont think these rumors are gonna end anytime soon.
Melo's deal will get done before the season even starts regardless of what team it's gonna be.
Don’t worry there will be NEW rumors for everyone to bite on when the season starts prior to the deadline.
Too bad the tone of the comment was
I WOULD rather sign with Houston before i would sign with the Knicks.
I don't think we have to parse it that closely.
We’re not hoping he asks us to prom. Or maybe we are…
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Contenders?
If we get Melo does that make us contenders? I think it does but it depends who we have to give up. If we give up Jeffries / Battier / Hill / Budinger and a 1st round pick I think we would be just as good as the Lakers as long as Yao stays healthy! If we do have to take smith back then i think if any coach can tame him it would Adelman. Also I think Melo owould strive in a actual system unlike that one in Denver where they just Give Melo the ball and tell him to go one on one. So if we have a chance to get Melo we better jump all over it!
This article is interesting....
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnfUuPnvEELQdVulEviDnJ05nYcB?slug=ap-nba-shanghaifilm
Hmmm….. Carmelo might be interested in becoming an international star…… Foreshadowing for the Rockets?
Finally some reasonable dialogue...
about a potential Carmelo trade. So, it seems like if we don’t have to give up any of our starting lineup most people here would pull the trigger on a trade. That’s pretty much where I stand. If we can pull something off like the Martin trade, that would be good although there’s no major bench player like Landry to add to the pot. But, if we have to gut the team then its a no go.
Also, it makes perfect sense that a star free agent would want to come here because we have a GM who is going to surround him with good players. The blogger from NY who is thinking the Clips, Knicks and Nets have the best shot is just not taking this into account.
The Clips and Knicks have a proven track record of completely messing up their rosters. The Clips have gotten lottery picks just about every year since 1980 and still not won anything other than a brief run with Sam Cassell. New York has been in the tank for over a decade with only one free agent signing as a bright spot. The previous bright spot was the signing of Allen Houston. The Nets have no track record.
It makes perfect sense that a star would want to go to a GM with a track record of getting lots of talented players. Let’s hope Carmelo is not the last player to recognize this.
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 24, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
Tommy Dee, Knicks Marketing guy:
What can the rockets offer that can trump what the #knicks can offer? Let’s hear some fake trades from Houston’s side.
all about the draft picks. thats it
they can offer the johnson space center…thats the only thing the knicks cant top
I just looked at their roster & I really can’t see who!!! What does Houston have to offer besides draft picks?
Are they really that ignorant up there?
Is this a real quote?
god I hate stupid people.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile because of what he can give you from that position. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. People don't realize he was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
by ressaliance_00 on Aug 24, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Are they really that ignorant up there?
As you may recall, the Knicks suck. While I doubt that their marketing department has much input on personnel decisions, it should be clear by now that the Knicks do not evaluate players on any level beyond “fucking awful.”
There just jealous because Isiah traded away their 1st round draft picks for the next 50 years.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
*They're
I always make that mistake at least once a week.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
you could spell Isiah properly so I assumed you can spell but were typing too fast. And yes, knicks fans must be really annoyed with their team. 16 years after we beat them in the Finals, the Rockets have had lots of winning seasons and are now poised for another one buy they still haven’t gotten over the loss of Patrick Ewing, John Starks and Derek Harper.
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 24, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Not as ignorant as they would have been with Isiah Thomas on board as a consultant.
But wait a minute Tommy! Since you brought it up, I’ll give you the Johnson Space Center and the Brooklyn bridge for a future first round draft pick. You do have a few of those left, don’t you?
by albertchester on Aug 24, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The best GM in the league.
One of the best coaches in the league.
One of the best owners in the league.
A group of guys who play team ball.
A chance to play with the BEST big man in the West.
Should I keep going?
"I am from one of the top 15 cities in the world. Buffalo, New York." - TrentEdwardsHoF2018
i hope we wait until at least 20-30 games into the season to see how well
our current roster does before considering any trade. However, if we don’t have to gut up our core for Melo…then sure…go for it.
only thing
that bothers me is that “two sources close to…” bit. Couldnt tell you how many times I heard from friends of a chick that I liked that “she has told me she is interested” only to have it be a big ole laugh hehe.. jk never happened to me even once /ahem.
Statements like this IMO cant be trusted.
If it is from Woj
They’re solid sources. He won’t go to press with those sources because some guy down at the washateria told him.
Remember, Woj doesn’t work for ESPN.
When it comes to
“sources close to”, Woj is as reliable as it can get, which still means it should be taken with a grain of salt.
Chris Johnson for ROY!
by RocketsAstros on Aug 25, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
This.
Woj doesn’t always get it right… but he gets pretty close.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Woj is the most accurate speculator in the NBA.
After Stephen A Smith, of course.
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The Dreamshake
NOT to Smith.
If he has to be included in any trade with Melo then we should immediately bring in a third or ever fourth team to the trade to keep smith far far far away from Rockets Red. The guy is only a sometimes steaky shooter with no idea of being humble, working hard, etc…
I agree
while I prefer the kind of guy who just gets back to covering his man after he makes a three, I don’t mind if someone gets fired up. And while I may be exaggerating, I just don’t want the kind of person who makes a three then goes around giving all the court side fans high fives and throwing up three fingers as many ways as possible while their man hustles down court and scores or leads to a basket.
The BANHAMMER delivers the real justice
That's just turrible
Even if he is not traded now
We could still make a play for him in the summer if he opts out. We do have some money coming off the books and we wouldn’t have to give up shit.
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Depends on who resigns though.
If we resign Yao that cap space that we’d have is shot. The new CBA probably lowers the cap and pushes towards a hard cap. Complicate that further with the fact that we’re over the cap pretty hard right now, even a great deal of money falling off the books barely gets us under the cap now and it’s kind of a moot point.
I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.
J.R. Smith?! Really?!
Whoever brought that idea up in this thread deserves a slap in the face haha. That guy is nothing but trouble and would pollute the Rockets’ locker room. There are thuggish, against the grain type of players, e.g., Ron Artest, and then there are thuggish, against the grain type of players… who are also moronic and straight up just doesn’t get it, e.g., J.R. Smith! Dude needs to grow up. He is everything this Rockets TEAM is not.
Very few if anybody actually wants him on the team
But there’s a chance that taking him off of Denver’s hands could convince them to send Melo our way. You gotta make sacrifices sometimes.
by Superdave532 on Aug 25, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
If Smith is the kicker to get the deal done
I don’t see it refraining Morey. Besides, he’d probably just get a third team involved to take him.
New Orleans
could use some help off the bench so they could be included
GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!
Exactly.
So even if we do end up taking Smith, he’ll be riding the pine behind Lee and hopefully Lowry will be coming off the bench for the majority of the backup guard minutes at 1 and 2.
by Superdave532 on Aug 26, 2010 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Then that will be the exact time JR blows up and becomes a locker room annoyance.
JR riding the pine? Yeah, that will go over him well…
I was being nice when I said leave him on the bench
They could just tell him not to show up to practice facilities at all. Like I said, I don’t think this team will need him. It would be nice if he played, but I think we’d be contenders either way.
So yes I completely agree that it wouldn’t go over with him well. But what do you do when you have a screaming and crying 10 year old who only wants things their way? You cut them off completely and kick them out of the house of course :) (kidding.. but not about JR Smith, seriously, just leave him at the airport if you have to).
by Superdave532 on Aug 26, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys have to remember
NYK just got screwed out of free agency on National television by a team that didnt have as much money to offer but had a better GM/Owner in Pat Riley to get it done through player movement. They see it about to happen again and as a NY dweller its hard to believe money doesnt trump everything. Oh well, hopefully we will get Melo and DEN will get Lottery picks bc the Knicks will blow.
Also, when they speculations first came about I went to Denver Stiffs and tried to talk to some guys about possible trades with us that they, as fans, would feel comfortable participating in. They treated me almost as bad as this kid is downing Htown,
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 25, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions
Can't really blame 'em.
After all, you’re raising the spectre of their franchise player bailing on them. That never feels good, regardless of which team you’re rooting for.
by DribbleHooper on Aug 25, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
JR Smith is most definately not a Morey / Rockets guy...
Every Rockets fan knows the rockets are trying to build a first class organization. We are a high-class team. We don’t need JR’s anitcs. Thug or not, he is not a Rockets player
sweet! NY wouldnt get him anywhere anyway.
if this trade goes through. we would be contenders for sure.
theyre would be some conflicts over rotation and who gets touches though.
id say let the martin/ brooks back court come off the bench and. have lowry and lee start , since lowry and lee arent offensive sided. theyre would be alot of O already with melo, yao, ans luis. and martin and brooks would get their touches with the 2nd unit and light it up!
Lowry
Lee
Melo
Scola
Yao
Brooks
Martin
whoever since i think we lose both battier and budinger in this theoritical trade.
patterson. hill and jeffries gone.
Miller
im going off of the battier,budinger,jeffries, 2picks trade idea
by FLASH94 on Aug 26, 2010 3:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Just saw about a post on ESPN yesterday where it says DM saying
the Rockets will keep their current roster for training camp. No changes will occur at the before camp.
I love Battier as much as the next guy
But to say he’s untouchable is silly. It’s better to lose a guy a year early than a year late. He’s not getting any younger. At least this way we get something for him.
Does anyone know if we have to use the entire trade exception or just as much as
we need to get a player? Can we use part of it to get Rudy Fernandez?
by inquisitiveman on Aug 28, 2010 12:45 AM CDT reply actions
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