Another Melo/Houston Mention
Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting that Carmelo Anthony has made it clear that he wants out of Denver now. And the Nuggets seem ready to oblige. Here is the excerpt that mentions the Rockets:
The Nuggets made it clear to teams they want young players and draft picks for Anthony, league executives said. The New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the two most probable destinations for Anthony because they have assets that appeal to Denver. The geography works for Anthony because of his wife LaLa Vazquez’s entertainment career.
Golden State and Houston are contenders, too. What’s more, the Charlotte Bobcats are a sleeper because of Anthony’s Brand Jordan shoe deal and the team’s ability to give the Nuggets a salary-dump proposal.
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funny
I wonder what that Knick homer will be tweeting about now that a source has come out completely dismissing the possibility of a trade to NY.
makes sense for Denver
both have young headline talent that they’re willing to give up, and nice&high draft picks
but if he wants to contend this year without having to carry that team, we’re the most logical for him(though not his wife)
Neither would have enough ledt to win after the trade
And that is where I think Houston has the advantage. Plus, he can just not sign the extention if they try to trade him somewhere he does not approve. Rockets all day man.
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I still think it is not totally up to Melo to force the deal
w/ regards to Denver he can force a trade but if ultimately he tries to force them into taking crap from Houston relative to what Clippers or NJ are offering then they may just say screw you and let his K expire. I doubt it but I am just not yet conviced that our better core team with ability to win this year is enough to make Denver pick to trade with us. Then again, this is me talking entirely out of my ass and maybe Melo can refuse to sign an extension unless it is Houston. Lord knows the Clippers at least are a joke historically even if they have remade their team recently. NJ sounds like a decent chance as they are moving to BK and have a good young PG and C to play with Melo
NJ sounds good for Denver not for Melo
they are gonna have to include at least one of those guys in the trade. Then what are you left with? Nothing thats better than Denver or Houston.
CLIPPERS really?????
NJ had the worst record in the league last season, and they probably won’t get any better. The Clippers just plain SUCK! GS had like 2x more losses than wins. Who would want to get to these sh1t teams? especially Anthony. He wants to win and he knows that Houston is the best team that can actually afford him.
by HoustonRockets4Eva on Aug 26, 2010 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
You add Anthony to either of those teams
and don’t trade away Kaman or Lopez, and you’re good to go, at least gonna get to the playoffs.
If anything, I would trade give up Anthony and Smith and demand picks, Eric Gordon, DeAndre Jordan, and some other goodies. New Jersey doesn’t seem to have a lot to offer up that would keep them a good team in a post-Anthony team.
The Warriors are interesting because they could offer up Monta Ellis as the centerpiece of a deal, and move on from there. Defense be damned, but a team with a core of David Lee, Carmelo Anthony and Stephen Curry would be pretty good.
A Rockets team with Anthony could be very good, but I don’t feel like he’d fit here in the same way that he’d fit in LA or Golden State (with a less complex / fluid offense).
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It looks like the Nets are probably
the favorites as far as Denver is concerned, but I would think Houston would HAVE to be the favorite of the bunch in Carmello’s mind.
So if those are the choices, then I’d say it’s between us and NJ.
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The thing is
Melo doesnt get to pick where he gets to go.
Lets just hope the nuggets like Jordan Hill.
I would say he does pick wher he goes
If the Nuggets don’t send him where he wants to go then he would not sign the extension and that would really turn teams off. He holds the cards right now because he could just Lebron the Nuggets next summer and sign where he wants to as a free agent. He will get his way.
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well
He doesn’t have all that much say over where he goes, he doesn’t have a no trade clause and it looks like denver is willing to play hardball with him if he tries to influence their decision making too much.
If they don’t accommodate him, next year he could pull a LeDouche and Denver wouldn’t be able to do anything beside posting angry letters in the press.
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by RocketsAstros on Aug 26, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well they can trade him.
He can then proceed to “Decision” whatever team he runs off too.
Golden State?
What assets do they have to trade besides either Curry or Ellis?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I will just say I do not want them to trade ANYONE from the starting line-up and I would be upset if they traded Lowry.
by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 26, 2010 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
Is this the point
where I can dickishly brag about the fact that it probably wasn’t going to happen? Just two days ago everyone was thinking we were favorites and was just waiting for the announcement of how it gets done, but now, we’re not even the front runners. Just a place Melo would like to go to??
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Template for TDS discussions this summer:
1) We need a superstar to beat the Lakers
2) /Insert superstar/ (Bosh, Paul, Melo) is an option for the Rockets
3) We have the best package
4) Houston is not a favorite to land /insert superstar/
5) /Insert superstar/ can’t play D, will kill the team chemistry, is overrated
6) We are fine the way we are
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by RocketsAstros on Aug 26, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd for truth
I think I’ve been 6 all summer though.
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Yeah...
I’ve been sticking to 4, 5, and 6 of the template.
But in entertaining the idea of acquiring Melo, I’ve deviated to #3 on the template but have been admittedly bias too.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 26, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Apply as necessary.
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sorry to be a Cassandra at #5 all summer
I just know that we have to have Battier and D to make a run.
Bragging that it "probably" won't happen?
Wow congratulations for that bold prediction. Most rational people aren’t assuming that Melo is ours by now, but it’s pretty clear we are still a legit candidate.
by goingforthecorner on Aug 27, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
well...
People have already bragged because Houston is a front runner for getting him and that, in and of itself is circular logic for a fan since your team always has the best trade package. Not to mention Houston is a legit target for any trade target given their assets. Continue to trash talk though, it’s cute.
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by BD34 on Aug 28, 2010 6:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This is such a bloody mess.
And Houston doesn’t even need Melo.
Denver’s trade proposals almost appear emotionally charged and done out of desperation.
However, now that Denver has added yet another name to the trading block, in Kenyon Martin, it’s possible they might add one or two more. They might even toss in Birdman (yeah, I’ve been hoping Houston would go after him) in which case we could just shed that trade exception cash and Jared Jeffries or Hill and be done with it – get our PF/C rotation on, and be super deep with him coming in behind Scola and/or Yao and Miller.
I’ll entertain the idea of adding Melo, I just don’t like it coming at the expense of all our assets, and that’s what it seems like Denver wants. At first, it looked like this trade could happen pretty painlessly, but all this drama has it looking like they want to send Melo to a freshly depleted team. Whether they try to drain us or any of the other teams, I just don’t trust Denver’s motivation or those wolves who are foaming at the mouth on Melo’s behalf.
I mean seriously, even Charlotte’s being mentioned now simply because of Melo’s business ties to Jordan. It’s a mess.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Aug 26, 2010 8:03 PM CDT reply actions
Id love to get him
but man this will get worse before anything happens and if we are to get him there will alota dust to settle afterwards.. in that case idt i’d be down to deal for him anymore
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I hope Houston isn't just mentioned in there to drive his price up
I would love to get him here, but Im also ok if we stay put, our team is going to do a lot of damage this year.
I think without him the Rockets are a fourth or fifth seed team
with him they are as good as anybody
Hollinger is picking us in the Melo sweepstakes:
If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte — Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha. Den would get much more than Damp — get the NY picks from Hou, for starters.
we don't need all pure offensive players
ie: Martin Brooks and Melo,
Trading Brooks is not that big of a deal offensive wise because Lowry can then start with better D and passing. We also get a decent backup PG and let Lee play some PG too and we will be fine.
Brooks for Melo is a fine trade with me.
As for team chemistry adn loving brooks personally is a different story. His fashion sense alone and the fact he has been a core player for 3 years is hard to change. But on paper it is a fine trade. You forget, he is due for a huge K upgrade when his current K expires.
^This
If we’re talking about getting a legit NBA Superstar in his prime, you don’t let Aaron Brooks be your reason for not doing the deal.
How about this
Houston sends first round pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3ywy8qv
seriously, someone please break the trade machine
or at least type in the players in your proposed trade
All of you guys are quick to trade Martin
I won’t believe that until I see it. Adelman likes him a LOT.
Wait, did someone mention Martin The Invisible Rocket?
This isn’t you, Mike, but it amazes me that people don’t even seem to think he’s on our team. This is, remember, a 27 year old SG with a reasonable deal. There are 5 SG I’d rank as clearly better – Martin falls between 6-8 for me. I simply feel like one remembers this. And I’ll be ranting more about it soonish.
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I love him
And constantly comment about it. I’d trade Brooks light years before Martin.
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by UofTOrange on Aug 27, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for you sir
What I think is funny is how the majority of Rockets fans whine about how we can’t seem to get a superstar here. Now the opportunity has arisen and they’re all whining about how the team should stand pat if they have to get rid of this player or that player.
I’m not saying to gut the team. Of course not. But if Aaron Brooks is the kicker that gets the trade done, then it is no question for me.
Bottom line is that when you have the opportunity to get an NBA superstar, you do it.
I think both Brooks and Martin are possible trade options
Brooks is probably the better one to trade in the current roster because his backup is so strong, much stronger in my opinion than Lee is to replace Martin (Also on D, if Lee is as advertised then we will need him over just Brooks’ offense)
Trading Martin could work too, as Melo is going to add a lot of offense to make up for Martin’s lost O, and Melo plays better D, if only a little better
I would trade Brooks if we can and then also try to include in the trade or make another trade for another solid backup PG. I don’t know anything about Ish Smith to think he can do it one way or the other, but it sounds like the guy has potential but it doesn’t sound like he is Sam Cassell in 1994 era.
Brooks, I can live without
Martin should be untouchable. I love Brooks, but if you are trading him for Melo, you are clearly getting the better deal.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Brooks is one of my favorite Rockets
But I would trade him in a Melo deal before Martin. I just feel that he is more easily replaced than Martin is. It’s hard to find a true two guard. Just my opinion.
Definitely not.
If you think about it he really doesn’t like to handle the ball much as it is.
He’s more of a “come off a screen for a jumper” guy or he occasionally isolates for a crossover.
Point being, he’s not a guy who benefits a great deal from getting the ball in his hands more than he already has it.
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by Artest4Prez on Aug 27, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I sometimes wonder what Martin would do with Chris Paul.
It would be awe inspiring.
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When he comes off of screens to shoot
he reminds me a lot of Rip Hamilton. However, I think Martin’s a better 3 point shooter overall.
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He's also really really good at driving and drawing contact.
Lowry, Martin, Yao can foul whole lineups out.
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I'm concerned...
That the idea of that has me salivating.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 28, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
this is why our team is so strong even before any Melo trade
I think we now have key players for RA’s system: Martin and Miller, and you add in the players that already know it: Yao, Scola, Brooks, Lowry, and increasingly Bud and Hill, and you have a damn good team. I think an even bigger factor is team buy in and personalities.
We all know LA has great talent but sometimes the lazy, arrogant asses show up and teams like Boston and Houston, who have fire and grit, push them around. I think you add in hard work (and bring back the ghost of Carl Landry) and you have more desire than any team out there (except Kobe who burns the brightest by far)
its possible
but it has to come to fruition on the court
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Martins 3 pt shot is WAY better than Rips lol
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simply put..
no
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That would be nice
However, something tells me they would want more.
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^^^^^ HELL YES
no one from starting line up. bottom line.
this is carmelo anthony. no D . can be a ball stopper. Its not like this is kevin Durant. if it WAS him, it might be a different story..
by FLASH94 on Aug 26, 2010 9:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I love KD, but this Carmelo sucks at D stuff is going overboard
Durant isn’t a defensive player either, though he did a great job learning how to rebound better last year
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yea any1 who works at it
and plays in an environment where D is stressed can be at least decent.. it is far too overstated that Melo has no D, 2 years in the western conference finals, DEN and LA had great D and melo was apart of that.. in summing, Melo’s D is a non issue
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For that matter
We had a top 5 defense every year with McGrady.
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yea buddy
may be hard to believe but back in Mac’s ORL days he was considered a very good defender
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Not hard at all to believe
When he is asked to play D he does it very well. I remember him checking Dirk in the playoffs his first season here. As a matter of fact he was our primary wing defender that season and he did a good job especially for all the work he had to do on offense.
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martin
I wouldn’t mind trading him for melo but I wanna see how martin does with yao in the line up. Although if we have martin and melo, it leaves us pretty weak defensively. I mean with yao coming back from injury, brad miller is gonna get a lot of minutes and he isn’t that great on defense.
if we have a good team defensive scheme then
we are good because at the end of the day those individual march ups mean nothing if our team D is great
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I wana see how Martin does in the lineup with
Yao also, but I wana Melo with Yao more ;)
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call me crazy
but I’d rather trade Brooks than Hill OR Budinger. Hill gives us another big, athletic guy that we will sorely need against the Lakers and the Mavericks. Budinger would be stupid to give up because we don’t have another backup SF (considering we’d probably have to trade Battier to get Melo).
Brooks is gonna be a 8-10mill a year player after this year. That much is pretty undeniable. SOMEONE is gonna want to overpay him, putting us in the hot seat in terms of what to do about him. On the other hand, trading Brooks says something about the confidence we have in Smith, which would be sort of cool (to see a virtual nobody break into an NBA rotation a la Von Wafer).
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Really? He is?
Everyone is calling Lowry a starting point at 6 mil a year and you expect Brooks to go 800 to 1000% increase in his pay grade? He has to negotiate before another Collective Bargaining agreement promises to diminish his earnings. Houston has a good negotiation standpoint, take whatever extension we offer you or make significantly less under a new CBA, your call young blood. Plus, when has Brooks EVER come across as a money first baller and not a consummate team guy?
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It's not the percentage increase to go by for FA, it's the market value of the production and potential for more.
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Still then
if we’ve chewed the idea of Lowry getting around 6 million and calling that starter cash and we call Lowry and Brooks essentially a push in how good each is, we’d be shooting ourselves in the foot or lying to ourselves to assume that Brooks in turn would cost considerably more than Lowry as Olivar puts out there, you know?
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I agree.
But Lowry’s price was set by the market, with the Cleveland offer. I’m expecting that Brooks will be valued more highly in the market.
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Is he an RFA or URFA next year?
If he’s an RFA the Rockets have him in a position of weakness with the new CBA coming up. Brooks can try to get paid but he has to do it before the season finishes, which favors Houston again. I think Brooks would be more highly valued in the market but no one in their right mind will sign him to a big contract before the new cap rules come out, which if there is a lockout or harsh cap issues, he’d be wise to take what he can get from Houston.
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He's restricted
and good points about him having to take what he can from Houston. Houston is in a position of power and I think that is what Morey thrives in.
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Kevin Martin is a good player, but not a superstar, not a great player
Melo and Chauncey carried that Nuggets team on their backs. Melo is not a superstar, but he is close to being one.He would put the Rockets over the top and potentially the best team in the West and one of the best in the entire league
Lost me at
Melo is not a superstar. He’s one of the few legit game changers in the league. Say what you want about efficiency and all the likes but he has helped cart that Nuggets team to the WCF.
As for Martin, you downplay him something awful.
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by BD34 on Aug 27, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Remember that game against us late last year?
When Melo got away with taking about six steps to the basket and traveling wasn’t called?
Only NBA Superstars get away with shit like that.
Melo is a superstar.
by Mike Kerns on Aug 27, 2010 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
we need a player who can get away with shit
right now we don’t have any
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by batman713 on Aug 27, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
Very clever way to put it, yes we could definitely use that one guy who always gets away with shit :)
by Superdave532 on Aug 27, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
That's how the Lakers won with Shaq in the early 2000's
Shaq was just a criminal in the paint the way he fouled. This past season Artest got away with assault and they said it was good D. Kobe could shoot a ref during a game and get away with it.
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DUDE, thats like the main play I think about
when I think of Melo.. he was KILLING us one on one in that game, thats how it looks when a superstar imposes his will.. no1 on our team can do that and thats why you deal whomever to get him.. he did get away with traveling that one play but I cant blame the refs the way he was carving us up lol
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His Choice Will Speak Volumes
NJ = Cares about Money and Wife’s career….winning not so much
Clippers = Same as above
Golden State = Same as Above
Houston = Winning is first (we can beat LA (we almost did without him or Yao or T-Mac), Making the Most He Can (signs extension now) keeps more money in pocket as there is no state tax in Texas, China immediately loves him and offers additional marketing opportunities, he will always be the starting forward in the all-star game due to China’s votes (T-Mac was and he wasn’t playing). As far as his wife’s career (Kim Kardashian wannabe) there are planes that go to either New York or LA from Houston. During the season while your husband is playing for a championship team live in NY or LA and do your thing (not exactly sure what that is). Lastly, the most important reason that he should play here is that he will never play with a group that has the heart and desire to win like these guys do. GO HOUSTON ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!
Lastly I am will totally against this trade if Brooks is included.
by htowngirl on Aug 27, 2010 12:08 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
"Lastly I am will totally against this trade if Brooks is included."
Rec’d
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Denver can trade Melo anywhere they want however, if Melo doesn’t want to go there he won’t resign with the team in question so that team in turn won’t give up so many assets to acquire Melo. So I think the Rockets are in a good position to get his services but won’t say the best since he doesn’t mind coming here and we have assets to get him.
I view Houston as the Chicago option.
And really, if LeDouche had headed there, he would be somewhat respected and be on a winning team.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
I agree with all of that
EXCEPT the LaLa beinf a Kim Kardashian wanabe.. LaLa was with Melo way before the kardashian chicks made it popular.. besides that LaLa actually had a career on TV and actually had talent unlike those dam annoying kardashians.. does anybody know what they did to become so popular? lol i still dont know.. ok Im done sounding like a TMZ reporter ;)
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Weird and Wacky
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2e67sdw
Rockets also throw in one of the Knicks exchange picks to the Nuggets.
This 3 team trade everyone gets a little something the Knicks get JJ and rid of Curry for JR.
Rockets get Melo and Curry expiring.
Nuggets get a proven scorer and a decent project in Hill and the knicks pick could be a gem.
theres no reason for NY to want JR
especially after these accusations. WIlson Chandler is far superior.
If we get Anthony,
we have to trade Martin. If we trade Battier, we have only one good perimeter defender, Courtney Lee. Starting Carmelo, Martin, and ABZ is insane. All 3 are below average defenders, meaning we would get killed on the perimeter and having to rely on Yao to do too much in the paint defensively.
We have to keep Battier, but we probably won’t because his expiring contract is too attractive not to be in the deal.
If it’s just between the two teams I think it will look like this:
DEN gets: Kevin Martin, Shane Battier, NYK pick,(possibly throw in Jeffries).
HOU gets: Carmelo Anthony.
I’d rather insert Jordan Hill rather than Shane. We have Patterson now so our frontcourt is too crowded. Patterson is a lot more polished than Hill on both sides of the ball, so even if Hill has more potential, I’d take Patterson.
Get it done Morey!
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Yes but if you keep Shane then there will not be enough minutes
unless the Rockets cut JR Smith or try trading him. If you keep Lee, Shane, and Chase Buddinger and Melo there simply arent enough. The Rockets could persue Dahntay Jones or someone else who can play defense well and come off the bench
I still don't like Carmelo for Houston.
Just as RA builds a deep line-up that can run his offense, we change the roster again to put in a ball-stopping offense, no defense guy, shades of TMac? Like Ariza, Anthony doesn’t feel like a fit to the Rockets. Can he change his game to fit us?
I prefer Iguodala—a character guy who will play the way the team asks him to do.
we seriously need new jerseys tho
red’s my favorite color but the design is all wrong..(ketchup and mustard alternate road jerseys anyone?)
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One thing I'm reading is that the new Denver GM
is an incredibly charming guy who gets along with everyone. I’m wondering if that will make a difference in keeping Melo in Denver. Of course the last Denver GM did a great job and they wouldn’t pay him. Apparently the owner’s son has taken over the team so his dad can buy the rams and the son will have to pee on the whole team to mark his territory.
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My personal rules for a trade
1. Untouchables – Yao, Martin
2. Guys who wont be part of the trade – Lowry, Scola, Hays, Miller, Lee, Patterson
3. Guys who potentially will be part of a trade – Bud Light, Jeffries, Battier, Taylor, Brooks
I think there will be a 3+ team trade
martin cant be untouchable
doesnt play ANY D, id rather keep aaron and go with lee at the two with melo at the three
Martin isn't untouchable
But I believe he is the most untouchable after Yao. Therefore, I agree with this list.
Melo will offset Martins absence and then some if hes traded
but if we can keep Martin to play alongside Melo, well that makes me drool :D
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actually I do
but you must be implying our D wont be any good.. if thats the case you havent a clue about what team D is.. Melo isnt a bad defender when he puts his mind to it, of course Martins D is bad but watever he’l makeup for it on O
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if a deal is done with Houston I agree with you mostly
I think Bud, Hill, Brooks, Jefferies, Chuck, and Patterson are all fungible.
But honestly, I think everyone buy Yao is open to being traded.
The fundamental problem with Brooks-for-Anthony:
Anytime Yao is on the court, we need quality 3-point shooting to keep the defense honest. A starting lineup of Lowry-Martin-Carmelo-Scola-Yao has only one stud shooter (Martin). You definitely don’t want Carmelo chucking threes, and I can’t see any other starting lineup if that’s your team (start Battier and bring Carmelo off the bench? yeah, right). You just take minutes away from Battier and Budinger. so I don’t like giving up Brooks unless we get Anthony and a shooter who can start.
Why don't you want Carmelo shooting open 3s?
He misses a lot because he pulls up too much. Give him a catch and shoot, he should be solid.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 27, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Has anyone even brought up how we would dominate the paint
if we aquired Melo?
I mean, the dude is practically a 4 as far as strength goes.
I’ve seen him bully his way into the paint to score countless times. You add that to Scola’s tenacity and Yao’s size and no one will be able to stop us from scoring at the rim at will.
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We would be one of the best rebounding teams as well
great point
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he also tend to take the long jumpers though
and rarely D up the paint
but yes, his has the body of a 4,and can bully most defenders
That is true.
He does have a bad tendancy to pull a “Kobe” and toss up a contested three.
However, I’m assuming that that he buys into the team game plan (Wishful thinking – I know)
We would also likely get the line more than anyone in the league besides LA and Miami assuming we could retain Kevin Martin in the deal.
Martin/Melo/Yao would all make a living at the line. It’s a pick your poison scenario.
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Yeah that's a good point
come to think of it, our starting squad right now is a pretty nice free throw shooting team.
Here’s what I would expect for the season
AB – 85% +
Martin – 85% + (probably closer to 90%)
Battier – 75% or so
Scola – 75 – 80%
Yao – 85% +
It’s pretty nice to have 3 guys in the starting rotation that can shoot technicals. There shouldn’t much of a gap in the game where one of these guys isn’t on the court.
I’m guessing Martin’s gonna be our primary Technical shooter huh?
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I was looking at that too.
I think we should be the top FT team in the NBA this season.
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What?
no more center shooting technical? Watching Yao shooting technical is one of the cooler occurrences of our game
by NVP on Aug 27, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more.
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espacially after watching the opposing guard miss a freethrow on the other end
weird satisfaction of “yep, our center can hit freethrows better than anyone on your team”
Yao can do 92% with on foot injuried....
don’ you think he can do better with both feet standing?? plus, if you look over his #s, he’s FT % is better every year (almost). and 2008-09 season is already at 86%.
I am putting my dollar he’ll top 90% this year. And as always, he’ll be doing the Technical FT, then Martin, then AB, then Battier/Scola.
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
While most people concertrated on Melo trades, what about JR Smith?
with recent “altercation”, looks like the Nuggest just going pull the plug on this thug, package him with Melo. NOW the question is, would Rocket willing to take on this thug? OR what we need to add to the table just to make the deal tradeable on the book? (Melo $17+, Smoth $6).
name your price…
For the record, I don’t like Melo nor Smith in Red uniform, but if that’s what’s needed to keep him off any Western Conference team, I guess we have to do it. BUT not trade AB for him. NO WAY!
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
I really hate JR Smith
you look up knucklehead in the dictionary, JR’s picture is right there. a streaky shooter that almost never passes
JR and Melo are pretty steep of a package
alot people loved him & his style of play.
I just not sure if he’s ever “fit” in the Rockets teams (and play as in a team). I just ran out of words on him. I watch the Nuggets pretty closely because Billups is my favor guy, but Melo & Smith…. !#$%^&*()~!#$#^*&()
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
Brooks not Needed
seems like think they just want to get rid on JR Smith, so if we give the our TE, they should be content, the Rockets can even release him if need be. This of course only if the try to package JR with Melo.
Work out a three way with NO
We get Anthony and chris Paul
NO gets jr smith, aaron Brooks, Kenyon Martin, one of the Knicks picks
DEN gets battier Martin, bud, other Knicks picks and trade expeption. Oh and Jeffries contract.
by AllenOU on Aug 27, 2010 8:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Even if that was possible (which i doubt it is)
No teams and i mean no teams would help us get two legitimate stars and if you cite boston well they picked on two franchises that had no were to go but down so yea
If at first you don't succeed, draft, draft again
Remember Iggy?
http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/2010/08/25/a-walk-around-the-block-andre-iguodala
Great article. I doubt we’d have to give up as much as we would for melo, because philly does need cap help. Iggy is a much better defender and I don’t think he’d disrupt the offense. Iggy would make it much easier to swallow losing battier’s defense, he gets to the line, he’s not a character risk, and he could do wonders with space Brooks, Martin, and Yao will create. And with Iggy being the third/forth option on offense and not the whole team his efficiency shoots up.
Brooks/Lowry
Martin/Lee
Iggy/Budinger
Scola/Patterson
Yao/Miller
And when we go small…
Brooks
Lee
Martin
Iggy
Patterson/Hill(depending on the trade)
Good luck stopping that lineup in transition. Makes me want to go buy NBA 2k11.
I would actually like Iggy to come here before Melo
Because he is really good on both sides of the ball and he fits our system better. His defense is very underrated as well as his passing. Also we wouldn’t have to give up as much. I would be fine with either acquisition though. I don’t want to lose Bud though.
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dont know much about Iggy's D but if it is pretty damn good I like this MUCH better than any Melo trade
Melo is a great offensive talent but his style of ball stopping, isolation play, and RA’s system of cutting and movement would cause another TMac-Yao problem.
Iggy doesn’t have Melo’s great O skills but he is a better all around player and if we can keep Martin and Brooks in the deal then we dont need Iggy putting up three point shots/far jumpers, which is what kills his game in Philly.
If Iggy’s D is that good then include Battier in the deal…maybe, but still I just think Battier is such a key leader and glue guy that it may screw up our ying or our yang (one or the other)
dream lineup:
Brooks, Lowry
Martin, Bud
Iggy, Battier
Scola, Patterson
Yao, Miller
so that means trading Taylor, Lee, all our draft picks the next two years, Hill and Chuck
Now this is dream land but that is my dream.
more realistic is we give up Brooks and Lee and Hill with picks
Lowry and Smith
Martin, Bud
Iggy, Battier
Scola, Patterson
Yao, Miller
We are weak at PG with a young Lowry backup, so i think we would have to update Ish because Lowry’s style of play is so physical we will need a decent backup and with trading Brooks and Lee we will have no one to bring the ball up, maybe Battier? Thats a scary thought, but outside of PG that is a pretty awesome lineup.
Our D lineup would be Lowry, Iggy, Battier, Scola and Yao, you still have pretty good O with Iggy, Scola and Yao, and Lowry dumping off good passes to the corner Battier jumper (he should patent that shit)
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