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An August Rundown Of A Stacked Western Conference

I had no clue initially, but the Western Conference is extra beefy this year. It's Jonah Hill post-Superbad, plus thirty pounds for good measure. Last year's young up-and-comers like Memphis and LAC, along with teams like Phoenix that suffered off-season setbacks, are headed for the lottery. Portland, Houston, San Antonio and New Orleans should all be back in the playoff mix, guaranteeing the aforementioned teams a bed in the basement.

Nearly everyone stands to be better than they were last season. To keep you up to date:

-- The Lakeshow remain fresh and ready to contend. They added Matt Barnes and two sleeper rookies in Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter. And Ebanks looks too much like Trevor Ariza not to be able to A) Nail catch-and-shoot threes or finish alley-oops, and B) Dribble like a sixth grader missing his left arm.

-- Dallas has its finger on the Rodrigue Beaubois trigger and could routinely blow up opposing defenses should they pull (therefore capping Jason Kidd's career, literally).

-- San Antonio bought back an attitude-adjusted Richard Jefferson, who became so convinced that his Milwaukee antics weren't going to fly under Popp that he took less money to stay with the Spurs (they've also got Tiago Splitter on the way - this is the biggest difference-maker - and Manu and Tony Parker are healthy again).

-- Utah swiped Al Jefferson from Minnesota for essentially nothing and found another token white shooter in Gordon Hayward to keep up the trend (following in the footsteps of Jeff Hornacek, Scott Padgett and Kyle Korver and preceding Kyle Singler, White Goodman or a sudden career rejuvenation by the former Vanilla Villain himself, Adam Morrison). I'm not convinced Jefferson will fit too nicely in Utah's pick and roll offense, but Jerry Sloan could make it work. As usual, I'm hoping that the entire team gets injured and Ronnie Price becomes their go-to weapon.

-- Denver added Al Harrington and stands to improve solely because Ty Lawson should see more minutes. Things will take a tumble only if George Karl has to miss more time. Silver lining? Adrian Dantley has another excuse to expand upon his already Sager-ish suit collection.

-- The Blazers enter the season like a professional basketball team from Portland, Oregon should: hidden in the woods and far from our conscience. If Greg Oden can keep healthy, the Blazers could surprise some people (not unlike: "If Lindsay Lohan could stay out of jail, she could resurrect her movie career, hopefully into an unrated, straight-to-DVD version of 'Mean Girls 2'). Actually, spare me.

-- Phoenix lost Amar'e Stoudemire, but that roster is loaded with a bunch of high-energy, low defense guys that normally get the Suns no further than the Western Conference Finals if shots fall. So... what am I saying? If Robin Lopez morphs into Brook Lopez, there's a chance.

-- Chris Paul will keep New Orleans in the race for a while. A known hothead with refs, he'll shatter the hearing/remaining innocence of as many officials as it takes to squeak out a win.

-- Memphis isn't bad, just not as good as everyone else. They're stuck in a conference that will seemingly forever treat them like they're back in Canada wearing the most hideous turquoise uniforms you'll ever see. I can actually see Bryant Reeves appreciating the old jerseys, only because he could legitimately wear one while hunting for antelope hides in the snowy woods of the North Alaskan wilderness. They'd also be a comfortable choice for the Great Outdoor Games, Reeves' true natural sport.

-- The Clippers? Blake Griffin enters the fold; they add two boom-or-bust rookies in Al-Farouq Aminu and Eric Bledsoe; they've contracted VDN, which is strangely an upgrade over Bald Dunleavy; and Al Thornton is no longer in the mix to play the Al Harrington Role (i.e. your typical points-only swingman with the efficiency of a pre-Henry Ford automaker. When do these players ever wind up on good teams?). Their likely 2010-11 outlook? Maybe 40 wins, or perhaps 30. If it's the former, then they'll have to basically run the table against many of the lousy Eastern Conference teams. Either way, our hopes a potential Crystal-Nicholson playoff matchup will likely be dashed once again.

-- We save Oklahoma City for last, because I think they'll take a Thunderous step forward (...) towards becoming a legitimate Conference Title contender. Kevin Durant's going to get even better, as will Russell Westbrook Eric Maynor and James Harden. Jeff Green and Nenad Kristic will form a nice frontcourt, with rookie Cole Aldrich playing Ostertag off the bench while defensive dynamo Serge Ibaka nurses an injury. And what if Byron Mullens (... Byron Mullens!?!) manages to match his skill set with his work ethic? This could be a deadly roster. And that's just on paper. The way Durant, Westbrook and Green have come together as teammates and friends over three years has contributed to the franchise's quick turnaround more than anything else. Durant didn't hesitate when OKC offered him an extension. He's got great chemistry with the Thunder, something that you'll rarely see with today's star players. Once everyone else picks up on the good vibe, it leads to nothing but added success. I'm telling you, this means more to the Thunder than their overwhelming amount young talent. Many teams have found themselves in similar situations in past years, only to suffer the consequences of immaturity and selfishness. The Thunder appear to have dodged that bullet swiftly.

The Rockets seem pretty high in a stacked conference, but I'm buying into Yao's smooth return and superb, guard-oriented offense that should easily counter the league's best defenses. Again, this team, minus Yao, a good backup center like Brad Miller, a moderately sane Trevor Ariza and an energy-boost off the bench over the second half of the season (Patterson), managed to go over .500 against one of the league's toughest schedules. There will be vast improvement, by default.

Anyway, here are my current rankings, PRE-SCHEDULE RELEASE. Things should change by then. Discuss:

[Edit: Wasn't clear enough here: this refers to standings, not team roster. Obviously, it's based on plenty of guessing, matched with team talent and expected improvement/regression according to the MartinScale. --Tom]

1. LA Lakers

2. Oklahoma City Thunder

3. Houston Rockets

4. San Antonio Spurs

5. Dallas Mavericks

6. Utah Jazz

7. Denver Nuggets

8. Portland

9. Phoenix

10. New Orleans

11. Clippers

12. Memphis

13. Sacramento

14. Golden State

15. Minnesota -- Highest paid player? (cue Stephen A.)... "DARKO. MILICIC." That in itself is deserving of a KAHHHN!!

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i like how

you matched us up with the jazz in the playoffs

by Yao on Aug 7, 2010 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd do

1 lal, 2 okc 3 hou, 4 dal, 5 por 6 uta 7 den 8 sas, with 9 being sac or nor. I can elaborate when I’m not on my bb.

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by olivarezq1 on Aug 7, 2010 9:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I would personally put Portland much higher

Even with their team even more devestaed by injuries than our team last year they managed to make the playoffs.
They have a really good nucleus and some great players.
If greg oden is healthy and plays the way he was last year I would put them ahead of us.

I would put the spurs just a little lower. They are always going to be dangerous but I just have this feeling they arnt going anywhere.

If karl is back the nuggets promise to be much better.

My rankings

1. Lakers
2. OKC
3. Portland
4.Houston
5. Nuggets
6. Jazz
7. Spurs
8. Mavs

by AlDe2356 on Aug 7, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I would actually put the Spurs at 2-3

Of course the Spurs play really depends on the health of Tony Parker, Manu, and Tim Duncan. But I think they will finish top 4 with Jefferson and Thiago Splitter, and George HIlls development. I’m assuming that after a year and another summre Hill got al ittle better, and RJ is finding his groove wtih this team.

1. Lakers
2. Denver (they always do well in reg season, and fall apart in playoffs)
3. SA
4. OKC
5. Houston
6. Mavs
7. Portland (Brandon Roy is on his way down I think already. Hes getting far too injury prone.)
8. Jazz

by AK1111 on Aug 9, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed but be careful what you wish for...

I would much rather play SA or Dallas or even the Jizz

by John P on Aug 9, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

its just my guess of t he finals standings.

I rather not play SA still. Greg Pop is a winning coach and still has his core players + some young talent. OKC still has yet to prove anything cept for last season that coulda easily been a fluke.

by AK1111 on Aug 10, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tom you have been working your ass off.

I would not put OKC that high. From 8th seed to a 2 seed so quick? I don’t know about that one. I’d put Portland there before them. Don’t get me wrong I love OKC but Portland is deeper and more experienced, not to mention a poor man’s version of Kobe Bryant in Brandon Roy. I think the Suns will make it because Nash is just that awesome so that would leave either Utah or Denver out of the playoffs (Utah). The Spurs and Mavs to me have run out of time to make runs at a title so I expect them to have lower seeds. And it may be my hatred talking but I have a feeling LA won’t be a 1 seed. Sure they stocked up but the west may be even tougher than last year and years previous. Younger, hungrier, and more talented teams and players are due to emerge and it will be at the Lakers expense.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 7, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Same can be said for Lotto to 3

here is mine

1. LAL
2. DEN
3. HOU
4. OKC
5. POR
6. DAL
7. SAS
8. PHX

by Monkfish on Aug 7, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look, I hate the Jazzholes too

But there’s no way they miss the playoffs.

There are a lot of good teams, and it’s going to come down to luck and injuries. There are 13 teams in the Western Conference that are thinking playoffs at the beginning of training camp. Some (Clips, Sac-Town, Memphis) will be exposed by early 2011. The question is whether CP3 and David West are good enough to get the Hornets to the playoffs. Another is whether Phoenix can beat teams with just Robin Lopez down low. There are more questions, but I’m tired, and Tom got pretty much everything.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on Aug 8, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Suns are 100x more fucked than Jazz are.

Suns lost their top scoroer granted he had a lot of easy looks. But then again, whos their finisher around he rim now? Lopez? Nash is a great player, but he needs a big man that can finish around the rim. Boozer I think was more of less a product of the system. So the Jazz may have a easier transition replacing boozer for Al Jefferson.

by AK1111 on Aug 9, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 but dont underestimate Nash's ability to make anyone an allstar

how well has JJ or Marion been after they left Phoenix….it shows what Nash does to other players performances

by John P on Aug 9, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

JJ has done quite well as a player.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 10, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

look if you are going to make a comment every time I am wrong then you are going to be a very very busy person

fine…JJ has done ok without Nash, but he is the exception the proves the rule…that is until you find another exception.

Actually I hope that Amare falls flat on his face in NYC without Nash. First, the obvious Rockets fan reason is that it makes our draft pick switch thingys more valuable…but much more important to me is that anyone that arrogant and that stupid deserves to have his head handed to him at some point.

I mean, all NYC has to do to be my most hated team is add Paul Pierce and Lebron and they easily beat the Jazz as most hated.

Dantoni made immature asshole comments about Hill, doesn’t care about D and wonders why he never wins championships with his great Nash teams. asshole.

Isiah Thomas back as a “consultant”? Either Dolan is even dumber than I thought…and thats like Amare dumb, or Thomas has some blackmail that he is holding over Dolan to keep bringing him back to screw up the Knicks.
Isiah is nothing but poison…enjoy NYC!!!…and thanks for those picks, every decision makes them go up in value.

The Knicks lost Lee, thank god, now he can go on to better things (even if GS is not much better)

Just add pubic hair face Pierce and duchebag Lebron and NYC makes Jazz of either Stockton/Malone or Boozer/Williams look downright likeable.

I guess NYC could also have resigned ms. princess mcgrady too…that would be easily the icing on the cake.

so this post is all over the place but NYC just blows!…and this from a guy who lived in Brooklyn for 6 years.

by John P on Aug 10, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

My bad i dont really look at who i am replying to when i comment

Sure Nash makes players better but Marion, Johnson, and STAT were already good before Nash got there but like I said he made them better. Marion fell off because he was already on the decline. Richardson fell off for sure. DirK is still a damn good player. My point is Nash makes players better especially marginal players, but just because he no longer teams with a certain player doesn’t spell doom for their career.

 I didn’t mean to offend you or anything i just gave my input. Next time I wont even bother to comment.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 10, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every time I think about not putting the lakers first

I wonder who is going to replace them at the top.
And I cant find an answer. I do agree with portland potentially being ahead of OKC. But they hvnt had very much luck with health lately and I think they drop a seed just because of that. Houston if we had a prime yao for the entire season I think would end up the number 1 seed but i dont see that happening.

OKC did really well last year and with another full year under each of their belts I think they are going to be even better.
Durant is a amazing player and i really do think next year is his year for the MVP.
Granted he does have to oust Kobe but with Lebron playing second fiddle to Wade i dont see any other contenders.

by AlDe2356 on Aug 8, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually like Wade as a candidate

His leadership is very underrated and him being on a sorry team last year made him look bad. This year could be his for MVP because as you said LeBron could play second fiddle to him.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 8, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't

Wade in the running for MVP this year? By all means the man isn’t underrated.

I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.

by BD34 on Aug 8, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

i said underrated as a LEADER

not as a player

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 8, 2010 2:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The phrase:

“Wade won the Heat a title by himself.” is used quite a bit, I think he’s fairly evaluated on all fronts, that’s just my opinion though.

I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.

by BD34 on Aug 8, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never hear anyone say he won it alone

ever

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 8, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I hear it a lot, huh… Guess it’s who ya talk to.

I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.

by BD34 on Aug 8, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

the guy had Shaq

how did he do it alone if he had Shaq in one of his last productive years

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 8, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

He had Shaq the year that the Diesel finished second in the MVP vote. He certainly played a large part but didn’t do it alone.

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"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak

by Tom Martin on Aug 8, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just said

I’ve heard it a lot. I know Shaq helped, but also, Wade really did put that team on the ref’s back.

I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.

by BD34 on Aug 8, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont know about did it alone

but he certainly did carried that team with the refs helping probably more than shaq

Shaq lost steam down the play-off stretch back then

by NVP on Aug 8, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The Refs took that one over. Worst series since Dallas/Houston, Kings/Lakers.

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"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak

by Tom Martin on Aug 8, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta love those ghost fouls,

when someone breathed on Wade, it was a foul shot for DWade. Dallas really got fucked.

by AK1111 on Aug 9, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

those damn refs. thats why they are all mad at tim donaghy. all he did was tell the people what they already suspected.

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 9, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mvp is in large part a popularity contest

Wade is certainly talented but I highly doubt anyone from miami is going to win it.

Also how can you be the most valuable player when arguable the second option on your team is better than you and could easily take over the team if/when you go down??

Durant goes down OKC is fugged.

by AlDe2356 on Aug 8, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like a few people have got SA much lower than I

Some reasoning for their selection at 4:

1. I don’t see the 1st seed being any better than five games over the 8th seed. It’s going to be a real tight finish, like “Juno literally inside the abortion clinic”-close race between every team, including the 9-12 seeds.

2. Tiago Splitter – he’s going to be huge for them. Finally, Timmeh can play the four or five with another solid post threat. It’s been what, since Robinson that he has had a legitimate center to play with? Splitter ain’t that good, but he’s big and can play just fine for now.

3. They’re as deep as anyone if healthy, and aside from Manu they don’t have any real injury risks. Name me another team who can go this deep with such an experienced starting lineup:

PG: Eva’s Whipping Post
SG: Manu Or The Bitch Who ‘Starts’ Over Him
SF: Jefferson
PF: Splitter/Timmeh
C: Splitter/Timmeh
6. George Hill (got some great experience, improvement with Parker out)
7: DeJuan Blair
8. James Anderson (REALLY underrated rookie, will turn some heads under Popp)
9. Matt Bonner (not quite to Scalabrine status on the Useless Gingers Scale yet)
10. (insert random name who will come out of nowhere to thrive)

Trust me, they’ll be good, unless they receive the type of schedule we got last year. I think it all depends on the rooks – Splitter and Anderson.

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by Tom Martin on Aug 8, 2010 1:33 AM CDT reply actions  

unless they receive the type of schedule we got last year.

You mean the schedule where we have to play the Lakers four times every year and we only get the bottom feeders three times a year, while the Mavs and Spurs seem to get those bottom feeders four times and the good teams like the Lakers and Trail Blazers just three (with 2 at home, seemingly)?

Yeah, I want the schedule where we’re in the Eastern Conference.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on Aug 8, 2010 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno. I think they might go the Boston route. Coast during the regular season relatively. Just make the playoffs, not worry too much about seeding as long as they avoid the Lakers.

Just stay healthy for the playoffs.

by VBG on Aug 8, 2010 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

beefy is the word to describe that conference…
i’m excited!

by galicae on Aug 8, 2010 3:52 AM CDT reply actions  

with the huge caveat that all are healthy

La is 1
Tied for 2 -3 OKC and Portland
456 tie between Houston Denver and Mavs
78 between SA and Utah
More later when not on bb

by John P on Aug 8, 2010 8:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

also

I think you underestimated or underanalyzed Dallas. Granted little has changed from their playoff exit from last season, but same goes for us too, and we all think more time with martin and hill and a summer will make us much better. With butler and haywood in the teams chemistry that could make they much better. …add in the young pg and all they are missing is a solid sg.

by John P on Aug 8, 2010 8:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Umm we added yao and miller.

We have a center with height and who may be better at adelmans system than Chuck was.
How are we the same?

by AlDe2356 on Aug 8, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think most likely they do fine until the playoffs

Then I hope 8 seed SA kills them again…difference between buying and building a team…but the texas three wil remain strong

by John P on Aug 8, 2010 5:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can't believe I am going to say this, but...

I think you have Utah too low.

Of the Western teams that have “improved” their roster in the last 3 months, the Rockets, Jazz and maybe the Thunder are the only ones who have really gotten better on paper.

(Utah basically traded Boozer for Jefferson and gained cap space. Fuck, I hate the Jazz!)

by grungedave on Aug 8, 2010 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

boozer is as good or worse then al jeff

I don’t see them being that much better unless they can fill that cap space but who good wants to sign and live in salt lake

by John P on Aug 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's just a ridiculously difficult conference

I think the list is good. The Thunder might be ranked too high but then again Durant could be the next Jordan and he has a young, athletic supporting cast that is only missing a Pippen. This just goes to show how stacked the West is when I think any one of the your top 8 could legitimately get to the Conference Finals. I admire the work, but I will not offer my own rankings. It’s just too hard to predict.

by ClutchFanSince94 on Aug 8, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

don't forget Russel Westbrook,

He has played well all last year and playoffs. He gets less attention cuz of Kd, but he is very good. Don’t be surprised if hes the next player to get a payday like KD.

by AK1111 on Aug 9, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is my list

1. Lakers
2. OKC
3. Dallas
4.Portland
5. Houston
6. S.A
7. Phoenix
8. Utah
9. Denver

by inquisitiveman on Aug 8, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

i really think spots 2 on are all up for grabs really...

between HOU, OKC, Portland, and even the Jazz…throwing in the Thuggets as a wild card…

ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Roxbybirth on Aug 8, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only good thing about the Jazz

trading for Big Al for a bag of chips is that he is a awful screener.
So hopefully their Offence suffers 10 fold!!!

Thank god we are past the Rafer Years

by DREAM34 on Aug 9, 2010 1:38 AM CDT reply actions  

the bad thing is

i really like him but now i have to hate him not only because he is now a Jizz but he still will kill us

GO ROCKETS, GO TEXANS, GO ASTROS (EVEN THOUGH THEY SUCK)!!!

by batman713 on Aug 9, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

The upshot though is

he’s got a rare medical condition known as “Exploding Knees”, so he may not be around to haunt us.

I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.

by BD34 on Aug 9, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have too put

Dallas and Denver ahead of us, because they always seem to finish high, and have good regular season records. But we can beat both teams in a playoff series, as well as all the other teams minus the Lakers. OKC looks great but they have too prove it more then just one year. I want to see how they play with an injured player, and how they play when things are down and they are struggling.
1.Lakers
2.Dallas
3.Denver
4.Houston
5.OKC
6.San Antonio
7.Utah
8.Portland

by since86rocketsfan on Aug 9, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I want to see how they play… when things are down and they are struggling.

They went 20-62 in ‘07-’08 (their last season as the Sonics) and 23-59 in ‘08-’09. That sounds like struggling to me.

by DribbleHooper on Aug 10, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a good point though

Now that the Thunder are considered to be one of the top teams in the West you have to see how they perform under that pressure. A lot can be said for surviving the trial by fire in your first year where the league takes you seriously. the 07-09 season they were seen as a scheduled W. The 09-10 season they came out of nowhere. Now they brought in the big guys they needed and are expected to hang tough with the likes of the Lakers. The league has taken notice of OKC and it’s up going to change the way their games are played.

I'm always right, this isn't conjecture, merely statement of fact.

by BD34 on Aug 10, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

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