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A real good read on the topic of "Mr. Clutch"

This is not a post to say why or why not our beloved Rockets should trade for a certain player. Rather I just thought since so many bloggers on TDS have been jawing back and forth about this topic over the past couple of weeks I might give us something more to talk about. And except for Stevie "Franchise" being mentioned (and only in the graph), I am sorry to say that the Rockets don´t get mentioned at all as having a clutch player since the 1996-1997 season. And I hope that by stating that this material is NOT mine and by providing links, it is ok with TDS rules to post this type of stuff.

ON FRIDAY HENRY ABBOTT OF TRUEHOOP POSTED THIS ARTICLE ENTITLED "The truth about Kobe Bryant in crunch time"  (this article uses plenty of game time stats and just isn´t an article filled with opionions)


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time

THE ARTICLE STARTS OUT LIKE THIS-

"Ask pundits. Ask general managers. Ask players. Ask almost anybody.

Who would you like to have take the last shot with the game on the line?

Kobe Bryant wins by a country mile. Every time. (In a general-manager poll this season, he earned 79 percent of the vote, his ninth consecutive blowout.)

There is not really any other serious candidate.

Ask me, though (as Ryen Russillo did lsat week and Mike Trudell the other day), and I'll tell you I don't know who's the best, but with all due respect to Bryant's amazing abilities scoring the ball, there's zero chance he's the king of crunch time."

THEN MUCH LATER IN THE ARTICLE, THIS AWESOME CHART OF "CLUTCH PERFORMERS" IS INCLUDED 
(the results of the last 14 years of games including playoffs)

With the game on the line. Trailing by one or two points, or tied, in the final 24 seconds of regula-season and playoff games since 1996-1997, with a minimum of 30 shots. From Alok Pattani of ESPN Stats & Information. 

PlayerMakesAttemptsFG%
Carmelo Anthony 21 44 47.7
Chris Paul 14 31 45.2
Shawn Marion 12 30 40
Brandon Roy 12 30 40
Hedo Turkoglu 12 30 40
Rashard Lewis 18 46 39.1
Glenn Robinson 14 36 38.9
Deron Williams 14 36 38.9
Mike Bibby 15 39 38.5
Dirk Nowitzki 25 65 38.5
Jalen Rose 12 32 37.5
Tim Duncan 23 62 37.1
Eddie Jones 13 36 36.1
Karl Malone 11 31 35.5
Ben Gordon 17 49 34.7
Chris Webber 18 52 34.6
Raymond Felton 12 36 33.3
LeBron James 23 69 33.3
Ray Allen 23 70 32.9
Gilbert Arenas 13 40 32.5
Vince Carter 31 96 32.3
Steve Francis 14 44 31.8
Damon Stoudamire 12 38 31.6
Nick Van Exel 16 51 31.4
Kobe Bryant 36 115 31.3
Jason Terry 14 45 31.1
Allen Iverson 21 68 30.9
Kevin Garnett 22 72 30.6
Ron Artest 9 30 30
Allan Houston 12 41 29.3
Entire league 2038 6861 29.7
THEN LATER ON FRIDAY A FOLLOWUP ARTICLE ENTITLED "Another take on Kobe Bryant´s relative clutchness" WAS POSTED BY ERIC FREEMAN OF YAHOO. 

(his thoughts are that Kobe is clutch no matter what stats say because it doesn´t necessarily matter if you hit that game winner or, as he writes in his article, " if a player performs well in any postseason context -- even if it's just starting a blowout at the beginning of a game -- he can be seen as someone who comes up big in pressure-filled situations." )

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Another-take-on-Kobe-Bryant-s-relative-clutchnes;_ylt=AsKRzLELyUV49plAGZbu38eLvLYF?urn=nba-313919

What do you say???????

No cursing in title. No pirated material, such as links to online game streams. Do not cut/paste entire sections of content from other websites. Thanks.

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Kobe no matter what

I am quite amazed to see this chart and that Kobe is on the lower end of it. However, no matter what this graph says I would still go with Kobe. From a before the play standpint when the defense is in the full court press or when they are doube-triple teaming him when the lakers are inbounding from half court he is almost sure to get open. There are very few
 people who can create their own shot like he can and I’ve never seen anybody hit 3s with the defense all over him like he does. Adding onto that though is his ability to actually make the shot in crunch time, that puts him over the edge for me. Now the real question is who is your 2nd choice? There really isn’t a 2nd choice, I would probably go with Dirk because he’s my favorite player and I’m bias like that :).

by OJ ATM on Jan 31, 2011 3:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm backing you on this one

I’ll take Kobe every time. There’s a lot to be said for grace under fire, and he has it. When you’ve been in the position he’s been in, it happens. Plus, percentages are horrible for this (Much in the way Martin’s true beauty shines in a TS%) Kobe has 115 attempts. One Hundred and Fifteen. The next highest is Vince Carter at 96, who is lower on the list. That means Kobe has taken 29 more clutch shot attempts than Catrter. However by sheer volume, Kobe is a killer.

We all like to talk without much to say...

by BD34 on Feb 1, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Surprised

Sorry for double comment but I forgot to mention that I noticed that D-Wade isn’t mentioned

by OJ ATM on Jan 31, 2011 4:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I agree with the stats.

I’d take Carmelo over LeBron and Kobe. I would take LeBron, but most times he settles for jump shots, instead of driving. ‘Melo does have a tendency to fall in love with his mid-range jumper, but it is a very good one at least. Plus, like LeBron, there are probably no more than 1 or 2 guys who could stop ’Melo from driving to the basket. He’s a very strong guy, and unlike LeBron, he knows how to use his body in the post.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jan 31, 2011 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

What makes Melo better than LeBron in crunch time?

Melo has an all-around game. The can shot the mid-range very well, he drive it to the hole, and he has a post game that LeBron lacks. Melo is a triple threat, and his mid-range game one on one is better than anyone else in the league, maybe Kobe is up there with him, but Melo is a whole lot stronger and can do what he wants.

by Texas08 on Feb 1, 2011 8:30 AM CST up reply actions  

not surprised to see kobe down that list

sometimes he gets into this mode where he just throws up the ball doesn’t matter how many people guard him. tbh, i’m a little surprised to find that ginobili isn’t on that list. the guy has had like 3 clutch successes just this season (and one failure that i can remember).

by sohum on Feb 1, 2011 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

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