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The Latest: Rockets Adding Youth To CP3 Trade Package

Five hours later, we still have no trade. Developments are emerging here and there, but as for anything concrete? Nope. Not yet.

Let's address the developments. As expected, Houston will be adding the youth to any Chris Paul/Pau Gasol deal with New Orleans and Los Angeles, according to CBS Sports' Ken Berger:

Now appears Lakers will keep Devin Ebanks, and that additional young talent to New Orleans will be coming from the Rockets, sources confirm.

Consider this your new forum for discussion. We're trying to keep things as glitch-free as possible around here, understandably.

As for the deal itself? Wait and see. No reason to rush to judgment just yet, but speculation suggests that Patrick Patterson or Jordan Hill could be involved. I'm cool with Hill leaving, but as I've said before, if Patterson goes, I'll be in limbo.

Again, the youth will come in addition to the players named before (Martin, Scola, Dragic). That's what the reports say, though to be honest, how many reports involving the Rockets have preceded a second report with contrasting, alternate or supplemental information? Again, wait and see.

Star-divide

As for the time delay and additional restructuring? It could be rooted in Houston's interest to clear more cap space in order to sign Nene. Perhaps they're asking the Lakers to take on some extra players, as we all know New Orleans is looking to come out of this with as little money on the books as possible.

To sign Nene, the Rockets will need to overpay. That's just the reality of it. New Jersey will reportedly up their offer to the Brazilian to as much as $70 million over four years. This Gasol deal is far more sweet than sour as long as Nene is on board, so Les Alexander doesn't have much of a choice. He's going to have to give Nene whatever he wants. Thankfully, Dwight Howard wants to go to New Jersey, so perhaps Houston will have less competition.

As for Morey, this is quickly becoming his legacy-cementing deal. How far will Morey go to get his guy? How far is too far?

One thing is for certain: If what we've been told is true, this deal is no longer about Chris Paul. The Rockets are only doing this for Gasol, so it's fair to say that whatever they are giving up is strictly to land Gasol. If people thought David Stern shut this trade down to screw with Paul, that's a null point. Clearly, he's actually attempting to get New Orleans as much out of the deal as possible. And right now, aside from an aging Lamar Odom, it's all coming from Houston.

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@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Lakers had been searching for deal in past day to obtain a first-round pick to send New Orleans as part of Chris Paul package, sources say.

by OJ ATM on Dec 10, 2011 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

Why

You can always find guy like that in the middle of the first round.

@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd

by AllenOU on Dec 10, 2011 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Steal of the draft last year

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

No you cant

If you could always find guys like that, you would never have a bust. He has shown potential and hasnt gotten a chance to really show what he can do. Hill is fine, but Pat should be a dealbreaker.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd agree with that

if we were talking about Darko Milicic.

Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 10, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't believe this isn't over yet

and the Rockets are still having to add more. Stern has this deal by the balls

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

I'm willing to bet

that this deal falls apart now that Dwight Howard has said that he wants to go to the Nets. I think the Lakers will pull out.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

I think they would still want Chris Paul

So I doubt they would pull out. After the damage Stern did I would be surprised if any team keeps the players that were involved in the trades.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

If you can get Chris Paul

You do it. They’d still have Bynum even if Howard goes to the Nets. All is not lost

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont know why ppl keep saying that

These guys will probably get over it soon if this deal doesnt happen.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Dec 10, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw on NBA tv that the deal is resubmitted

I dont know how accurate that is but it should be accurate.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:35 PM CST reply actions  

Oh ok, thanks, I got excited there for a minute

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

It had recently been reported that it was still being worked on. I will try and find it.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently It's Lee or Patterson..

Where the younger assets would come from was still being negotiated early Saturday, with potential candidates to go to New Orleans being Patrick Patterson, Courtney Lee and an assembly of draft picks, according to an executive briefed on the talks.

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33780584

by OJ ATM on Dec 10, 2011 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldnt put in Bud or D Monte

Hill, t Will, Parsons yeah.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Dec 10, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

If these deal does go down, and we sign Nene, were gonna need him at the 3.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Dec 10, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think so....

homie don’t play that

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Encouraging Tweet
@johnhollinger: Would seem to me Nene is waiting on this Pau trade. Rockets could go 4-64 or thereabouts if they wanted to.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:49 PM CST reply actions  

Let's invite him to TDS to join in on the trade talks

who can translate Portuguese?

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

This is all you need

http://translate.google.com/

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

The tweet was 4 hours ago btw

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The more I hear about this deal, the less I like it

I understand Martin/Scola/Dragic/Draft pick, I’m even ok with Hill or Bud getting thrown in there with possibly Thabeet being moved for good measure, but the young talent of our team has been the focus of things now. That’s why we brought in a youth-friendly coach like McHale. Trading away a solid part of that youth seems foolish to me

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 5:49 PM CST reply actions  

NO!

patterson is one of my favs :(

by Rockets7 on Dec 10, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Morey has broken my heart too many times this week

First I lost Scola, than I lost Hayes, now I’m losing Scola again and I might be losing Patterson or Lee who I also love. I need to stop making emotional investments in professional sports

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Your name made me sad

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too...

but he’s no longer rolling for us anymore…

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Your name...

My allergies are acting up.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't blame him though

He saw the future of the Rockets coming and knew his future among us was not cemented as he’d like it to be. Glad he got the $ and a good opportunity to showcase his skills. He’ll ALWAYS be fan favorite in Toyota Center

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He will get a standing O when he comes to Houston, no doubt in my mind.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I really like Pat, but I think Lee is a little more important. We do have Jordan Hill and I suppose Morris to play the 4 behind Pau. There’s not much behind Lee at the 2.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Still hoping Morey can swing a trade without giving up PPat

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I would much rather throw in Morris. And if we are throwing in a legit younger player, I would want to give them Flynn instead of Dragic.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I would too, but the Hornets probably have the same view.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

As in valuing Pat, Lee and Dragic more than Morris and Flynn.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

We can’t substitute Flynn for Dragic because, no matter what we think, the front offices around the League know much more than we do.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn’t implying trying to pull a fast one, my point was that we are at our best offer, and we can change some pieces if they want, but they can’t just add new players to sweeten the pot. If they want Dragic AND Patterson, walk, and let Stern and Co. deal with the media shitstorm now, and a renewed shitstorm when Paul walks for nothing, or is traded for a lump of a coal and a trade exception.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, I know everyone here (including I) loves P2 and Lee.

But we’re talking about getting one of the best 4 and 5 combinations in the league. Gun to your head, lose P2 or Lee and get Nene and Gasol, or just walk and stay with Scola and Martin?

by chrisjay84 on Dec 10, 2011 5:56 PM CST reply actions  

Those are my thoughts. There’s a reason Morey was trying to acquire all of these assets over the last couple years.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

It just seems like we're losing the most in this trade and getting the least

ignoring the possibility of Nene, it’s a lot from the Rox while LA and NOLA just sit around on their asses and Stern on his throne of lies

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 5:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Walk away

Because I don’t buy we can contend with that little depth. The reason we’ve been (barely) a winning team is that we have fantastic depth—if we throw that much of it away there is not a lineup for Gasol/Nene to even anchor.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Lets see

PG: Lowry/ Flyn
SG: Lee/??
SF: Bud/twill
PF: Pau/morris/hill
C: Nene or dalembare/hill
i dont see morris as a SF

by Rockets7 on Dec 10, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

PG: Lowry/ Flyn
SG: Lee/J Taylor
SF: Bud/twill/morris (I think he has what it takes)
PF: Pau/morris/hill
C: Nene or dalembare/hill

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Stop saying T-Will is a 3

His game is much better suited for a 2 or, in his own opinion, the 1.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

He can play the 2 and the 3

In the interview today he says he was practicing D and wanted to emulate Battier and Bowen who both play at the 3.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah he’s a wing. Play him at 2 or 3 depending on matchups. 3 if you’re going small.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't mean he's suited for the 3 spot.

He said it himself in an interview last year, he think he’s a point guard. If we go by size I’d say he’s a perfect fit for the 2.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

In his mind he probably thinks he could play the 1, 2, and the 3

I wouldnt be surprised. Judging from what I have seen of him, I think he can pull off the 3 if that is emphasized in practice. As MadMartygan said, it will all be about matchups.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I don’t want to see him guarding LeBron though. Honestly, I don’t want to see Budinger guard LeBron either.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Maybe Morris would get time on Lebron?

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

That seems like the best option currently.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

See that's what I mean

That bench is awful. Absolutely awful. One of the worst benches in the league type awful. And Bud is a below average starter, to boot.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we might have a mle to sign a vet. We were going to use that on Chuck.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I have faith in Bud

I think he will do well in the league, initially I see Parsons as maybe similar to him and who knows Morris could be better than him. I could be wrong but I dont see him as our long term starter, if he makes it or not I will be rooting for him.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

We're also talking about doing away with 5 players

the celtics didnt even do that for an MVP caliber Kevin Garnet

by NVP on Dec 10, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I feel the same way.

I’ve already come to terms with Scola and K-Mart leaving. Losing Patterson or Lee is going to suck, but in the end, Gasol and Nene make the Rockets better. Indisputable.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 6:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Depth might be a problem...

With everything we’re (allegedly) giving up, but I’d be comfortable sacrificing some depth for two legit, bonafide stars who can give us what we’ve lacked for quite a while.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 6:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Morey created the depth

Will will somehow try to get some.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Like somebody stated below:

Nene by himself is probably being overrated around here, but the idea of Gasol and Nene together is what’s getting people excited.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Is Lee seriously being traded?

What the fuck man

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:00 PM CST reply actions  

+1 If its between the 2 its going to be PPat

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty fucking pissed right now.

Lee is my favorite Rocket by far at the moment…

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Man.....

im getting a major headache over all these rumors!

by Rockets7 on Dec 10, 2011 6:08 PM CST reply actions  

I know. At this point I’m too invested to not keep following all of it, though.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Broussard reports.

Fake. Patrick seems to be more awake than let on. More updates at the night goes on.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Sources have tweeted:

The chairs of the TDS following are praying for some settlement in negotiations so they can remove as much stress as Daryl Morey with the trade

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Vetoed

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Gasol is a ZERO!

The guy quit on Memphis and pouted until they traded him because he wanted to play on a Championship team. You could see him pout and “disappear” in Lakers games at times when things weren’t going well. When the Rockets lose, and they will with the new roster, and Gasol realizes they can’t win a championship, he’ll pout and become a poison on the team. They’ll trade him cheap to get rid of the poison. HORRIBLE trade for Houston.

by LAVol1 on Dec 10, 2011 6:12 PM CST reply actions  

Tell us how you really feel about it…

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You know all of those tims where Gasol

just gets a rebound and taps it back in??? If you’re a Laker fan, you’re taking that facet of his game for granted. Our current front court would struggle vs inner city houston high school basketball teams. Gasol, with direction of McHale, is our guy.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I got to be honest.

I’m scared of this trade because Gasol has stated over and over during the past two days that he does not want to come here.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats not making me feel good either

But maybe if he gets here, he can be sold on it, especially if he sees we able to pair him up with some good players.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope we can sell it on him.

I want him to play at 100%, because that’s what he’s getting paid to do.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I really do think that he will appreciate Houston because he sees we are putting up so many assets to get him

And if he sees we are committed to building a better team then it would go a long way into making him feel more comfortable here. Good guys in the locker room also help.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad we traded out locker room

He’s going to walk into a locker room of open arms with Bill Worrell, Clyde Drexler, and Matt Bullard

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe someone can call the Dream to join the welcome wagon

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He's still in Jordan wondering wtf we're thinkin

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

That too

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Well said

but I love going stir crazy over all the rumors. Also, what form of compensation would there be?

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

If it's just draft picks then I don't know.

I mean, giving up Lee or Patterson for a low 1st rounder just doesn’t seem fair to me.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah some persepective

Its so hard to get it sometimes, especially when I feel like ive been staring at this screen for who knows how long. That cant be good for my eyesight, yet I cant help it.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been checking Twitter and seeing a lot of chicken littles.

It’s like people spazzing because a Bill is proposed to the House. There are no guarantees and the average person has no clue what’s in the 800 page proposal yet people will freak out and convince themselves they’re experts. I have no doubt we will get better as a result of whatever trade we do. The Lakers, by reports, are looking to pick up additional first rounders and we’re asinine if we think the Rockets are going to step up the offer for purely Gasol. The NBA upped the ante which means we’re going to have to see plenty of players moving around.

I think what we have right now is straight up panic mode in a fanbase that is over-valuing who they have and not bothering to divorce themselves from the situation and think.

I say this all with a new perspective on life because I watched a girl’s basketball game today and wanted to kill myself earlier.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont know how your eyes arent bleeding

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

My 10 year old nephew said to me the other day

“girls can be good at basketball”…He kept asking me why I was laughing

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

4th quarter began and this team had 3 points.

3. I could have strapped on a uniform and dropped a 40 burger on the opposing team.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Would you employ a dream shake at any point if ou were in such a game?

Or just dunked on everyones head?

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I have used the dream shake in games before.

Kicks a lot of people’s ass when done by a driving PG.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I used it when I played HORSE today

Does that count?

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Not at all, no one to fake out.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I faked out myself

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Baller as all Hell.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Were they mentally handicapped?

Good lord, that’s just one long shot. At least they weren’t like that girls high school team in Florida. Before the games their chant was “1, 2, 3, N-Word”

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I read that, it was so odd and idiotic

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

My daughter has a play in 45 minutes and I am soooo looking forward to it. I am hoping that while I am gone. Something will happen and I can resume my life or destroy my living room in despair over it.

I really just want this to be done so I can mourn/celebrate/grade the 100 final papers my students have submitted……

by svspider on Dec 10, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

As a freshman in high school,

I was on the freshman team. We were the practice squad for the Varsity girls today. They are ruthless….

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, the girls team at my HS when I was playing was #2 in state and we used to scrimmage against them

no worse feeling than having your shot blocked by a girl, I die a little inside everytime I think about it

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Although to be fair,

when they are taller and outweigh you, it’s not too demeaning…i keep telling myself…

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I still flinch everytime I shoot around a girl

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I once blocked the crap out of a girl

and the ball went straight up in the air. But after I blocked it I kind of showed off to the crowd, then she caught the ball and layed it up. It was the last day of 7th grade, I’m forever ashamed

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

A woman once set a pick on me and I fell down.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

There's this thing called strict liability.

If they post up and bump into anything I get arrested.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

We have no idea what’s going on, let’s just chill til we find out the deal.

Check out The Dream Shake.

by Patrick Harrel on Dec 10, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont know who is saying Pau is washed up

He is not. He is past his prime, but will probably give us 17-19 PPG and 10 RBs for his entire 3 years. But he is older and we were already giving up a little to much.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Dec 10, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

this^^ 1,000,000Xthis^^

"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"

by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

David Aldridge

Told again within last 5 min that CP deal still being worked on, and is not yet submitted to NBA, as others have reported. Fluid situation.

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

In other news:

same shit different day

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

just to clarify....

you’re not watching NBATV where they just re-air previous shit ever hour?

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

lol no

From his twitter. I would’ve mentioned that earlier, but I’m tired of copying and pasting crap from twitter

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

A bit

But he is definitely going to be over priced, all big men that can dribble in a straight line will be, so you are either a have or a have not, and I would rather the Rockets be a have than a have not.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I think by himself he would be, but pairing him with Pau is what makes it work.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you using logic? With Houston fans?

You stop it right now

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

People have been overrating Nene since this season because thoughtful analysis is only as good as your last ESPN talk up.

Or in the case of Rockets players, conventional thought and objectivism goes the way of the Dodos as soon as someone could be traded.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

why the hell

did terrence jones sit the last 3 minutes, I will never know..

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn’t even realize that.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Amazing game.

Even better than the Cincy vs. Xavier one.

by Dmo_Htx on Dec 10, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Needed more right crosses.haha

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

They "got gangsters in their locker room" haha

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

hahah

Interviewing one of the guys who started the fight probably isnt the best idea.

by Dmo_Htx on Dec 10, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

It's weird how on this site, 2 recs makes your post green.

Other SB Nation Blogs I visit, it usually takes much more. I didn’t think that varied from site to site

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

Low-traffic site

On The Crawfish Boxes it only takes one.

Astros and Rockets are not very popular teams on the internet.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, if you have time to kill

http://whatdoestheinternetthink.net/ is a fun way to kill time. The internet thinks highly of some pretty messed up things.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Lil Wayne provided 95% positive results.

I’m done.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm shocked by some of the slurs I typed in there.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Click Actions

Rec = Recommend

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

When you recommend a post

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh
Kevin Ding: Kupchak worked very late last night and early this morning, but Lakers not necessarily expecting resolution on Chris Paul today. 1 minute ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gBO8PxxO

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by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

Groan

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Welcome!

Enjoy wasting your day here as the speculation continues!

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I suggest clicking reply rather than continually posting in a lower box.

We have some decent distribution. I’m from upstate NY and live in Northern Virginia/DC area.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I live in Cleveland, OH

but I’m just going to college up here right now. Born & raised in Houston

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Saudi right here

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Its crazy that you say that

I met up with a friend of mine who is also a rockets fan, he lives in a city called Jeddah and he just came today to visit, he told me Hakeem came had dinner with his family. Apparently he is really humble and very nice. All in all, I know 2 other Rockets fans here and the rest are Laker fans.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

i hate laker fans

and i think this trade makes lakers worse

by Rockets7 on Dec 10, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It does

If they dont get Howard, their main players (Bynum, Kobe, and CP) all have knee problems. If one goes down they are in trouble. They also would have no depth at the PF and C position which could really be a disaster for them later with all of these back to backs.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate Lakers' fans cause I just don't think they realize what it's like to not have a good team

Rockets’ fans and a lot of other teams go through the ups and downs, LA fans remind me of spoiled kids who get pissy cause they got a Lexus for their birthday instead of a Benz

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

They all arent bad

I know a few decent ones but they can have some annoying trolls as well

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm thinking roadtrip to Jordan to see Hakeem

I mean he always keeps a ball in the car. You never know

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm out of Houston in 2 years for College

But I’ll always remain a Rockets fan (until the Sonics are revived…then we’ve got a conflict).

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Born & raised in Paris

Only went in the US twice, never been in Houston of my entire life.

by RiiseRockets on Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

ca va mec?

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I was in Paris a month and a half ago

Love it, so many hotties over there

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing that shocked me the most about American's girl

Is the makeup, there is WAY to many. It isn’t sexy at all.

by RiiseRockets on Dec 10, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends where you go really, LA and Miami are crazy

but then again it doesnt take too much to get me going haha

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Where in upstate?

I’m a New Yorker here.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Grew up in the Thousand Islands.

Live in Washington DC right now.

My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased

by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The are showing the kiss of death on NBA tv

I never get tired of that one

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 6:58 PM CST reply actions  

fap fap fap

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyways...since we're at a slow point.

I’d like to advertise the movie Sonicsgate for any who haven’t seen it yet. Here’s the link. It’s completely free to watch, and it’s quite interesting about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle. Also it goes with the whole Fuck Stern thing we’ve got going here.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

Great movie

You think Seattle is first up for a team? or is Vancouver going to swoop in?

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I even heard Kansas and Vegas could be in the mix

Out of all those places, I do want Seattle to get their team back though.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd say, realistically,

The Sonics won’t get a team until:

1. Stern isn’t commissioner.
2. A new stadium is built.

Those vary among each other.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

*because of each other

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully it is sooner rather than later

I cant understand Sacramento not trying to move the team to Seattle, it is a good market, it would be better than a 3rd NBA team in SoCal.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

If they had to move that is.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: And Ryan Braun hit with 50 game suspension for PEDs

So, the first major suspension not involving Manny is from a small market team

by sterlingice on Dec 10, 2011 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

I was just on his wiki....look what it says.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...that's not legible at all.

My bad.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Now that I have been thinking about it

we probably will give up Patterson because we have the Donut. If it makes the deal go through I would bet that it is done.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 7:06 PM CST reply actions  

Idk i was pissed when Landry left

this seems like the same thing all over again

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I need to stop wasting money on jerseys.

McGrady (although that was a must buy), Brooks, Battier, and it looks like Lee…

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Buy a Kobe Jersey

Maybe he’ll get traded from the Lakers.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Dec 10, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Buy Texans Jerseys

Guys like Dre and Foster won’t be going anywhere.

by Antho10000 on Dec 10, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a Seahawks fan.

Although my “2nd team” (although I don’t like that term) is the Texans. I plan on attending their first playoff game at Reliant.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

LOVE

my Andre jersey with a passion

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I still have my home court throwback McGrady

and I still wear it proudly…mostly cause it’s the only Rockets’ jersey I own

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Either sites are getting lazy

Or Dragic might not be included in the deal anymore.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Who?

joking

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

whatever, I could care less at this point as long as the deal is submitted, I just want this resolved

I cant control anything, so I am going to live with whatever we do.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I had the same thought

Maybe Lee instead of Dragic, and LA adds a first rounder they got from a 4th team? That would be consistent with what we’ve heard.

by mr. eggplant on Dec 10, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I am new to the site and a die hard rockets fan, but I am thinking we need to back out trade martin in a seperate deal and rebuild.

by Rockets78 on Dec 10, 2011 7:15 PM CST reply actions  

I think that might be too late now

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."

-Hakeem Olajuwon

by Rockets4LIFE on Dec 10, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It's hard to let your feeling get in the way.

But this team has picked a direction and it’s time, as a fan, to support that decision.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That's kind of silly

Being a fan of a team doesn’t mean I have to support every decision their front office makes.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but to argue about that decision based on things like "But Patterson was my favorite" is absurd.

Seriously, I’m going to be fucking pissed if Courtney Lee gets traded. But I know that’s what Morey feels is best for this team.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Courtney Lee is where I draw the line

Patterson will still be a backup on this team so if he has to do, I don’t like it, but fine. Courtney Lee is a starter on this team and we don’t really have anyone to replace him with.

by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I always trust and defend Morey

But here I think he might make a mistake.
He’s been searching for his star for years now, he had his opportunity with Gasol but then that slips away. Maybe he’s so pissed about it that he may make a mistake.

by RiiseRockets on Dec 10, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I love T-Mac but I was glad when he got traded cause the trade was good, same thing for AB.
But here, I’m not sur, I thought the Scola/Martin/Dragic package was good, if we add PPat it’s too much.

by RiiseRockets on Dec 10, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the main point of the deal.

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2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Main point of the deal is to get Gasol

But the cap space allows us to pick up Nene or somebody else to help replace what we lost in Martin/Scola.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Woah. What?

We would not be doing this deal if we didn’t get Nene or at the very least Dalembert.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Gasol isn’t the endgame. Morey seen what the Lakers did with a twin tower look. Thats what he wants.

by Antho10000 on Dec 10, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

We would be getting cap space that would allow us to pursue Nene. Or that’s what I understood from it.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be too much

I’d rather have Okafor’s 12M/Year contract

by RiiseRockets on Dec 10, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Same. I’m holding out hope that he’s included in the deal (I also like that we’d only have to commit to three years) but I’m not expecting it.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there any chance we can sign nene and dalembert as back up?

by Rockets78 on Dec 10, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

If we do this trade, yes

It’s possible.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I don’t think Thabeet has a real future here, but when you amnesty somebody do you pay like half the contract or what?

by Rockets78 on Dec 10, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It depends. All the teams under the cap have the opportunity to submit a bid of how much of the contract they would be willing to pay to have the player. Whoever bids the most gets the player for that amount, with the team that amnestied him paying the rest.

So for example, the Magic amnestied Arenas and will likely be paying most, if not all, of that contract, as nobody is going to offer much for Arenas. If they had amnestied Howard they probably wouldn’t pay him anything, as every team under the cap would be willing to pay that entire salary.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, misunderstood--he was asking if we could get both

Yeah, the answer is no for both. One OR the other, yes.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

Teams under the cap don’t have access to the full midlevel, only a partial one (2.5 million).

Check out The Dream Shake.

by Patrick Harrel on Dec 10, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

What he's saying is

The Cap is 58M say we’re sitting at 57M (Which we’re not)

We can sign a player to up to a 2.5M dollar contract and allow us to go over the cap, this is using “MLE Money”

If we weren’t using “MLE Money” we can’t sign Free Agent X for more than 1M because we’d be over the cap.

This is my understanding.

by OJ ATM on Dec 10, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought that if you were under the cap, you got the whole midlevel, even if it took you over. And if you were over the cap, you then only got the partial. I remember reading something talking about how it was weird that if a team was at 57 mil, they could sign free agents up to 62 mil, but if they were at 58.5, they could only sign up to 61 mil or whatever the partial midlevel is.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

You can choose to have the full exception or not

If you’re like $4 million under the cap, you can use the full $5 million exception, but you can’t sign somebody first and then use it. If you wanted, you could sign somebody for $4 million, then use the partial exception and sign someone for 2.5.

Check out The Dream Shake.

by Patrick Harrel on Dec 10, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I’ll have to read up on it. Your signature is really meta, by the way.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

They’re about 16 mil under the cap right now, and trading Paul clears about 16 more. Odom (8.9), Character (0.8) Scola (8.6), Martin (12), Dragic (2.1) basically puts them right at the cap. You’re allowed to take back more than you give in a trade, but I don’t know if that would allow them to go over the cap, as they are only trading away 16 in this scenario.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 10, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

The wait is killing me...

Especially knowing that this should have been over and done 48 hours ago, without the Rockets having to give up half of their roster. Let’s get this over with.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 8:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

At this point it just seems like an attention whore-ish move.

But whatever.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

No point starting something.

Just pointing out something I noticed.

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

JT failed the physical?
Jermaine Taylor failed his physical with the Houston Rockets due to ankle injury. He’ll likely sign with HOU once he’s healthy in two weeks.

Alex Kennedy tweet….
That’s another body not practicing for 2 weeks SMH

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 8:33 PM CST reply actions  

the bottom are my own words

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Dec 10, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Just to clear things up

Patrick Patterson is NOT the gay wrestler who was the first IC Champ right? That is not the one we are talking about.

by Silentjay on Dec 10, 2011 8:59 PM CST reply actions  

When asked which team would win the NBA finals this coming year Stern told reporters that, "he had not yet decided which team it would be but that he expected the announcement to come sometime before the season kicks off on Christmas day"

If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.

by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The jerks really limit the amount of times he can visit Donaghy, and David has honestly come to rely on him. Now he needs at least a few consults before making any championship decision.

by seanbergmanrules on Dec 11, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Marcus Thompson: In search of young talent to acquire Chris Paul, source says #Lakers offer Pau Gasol to the #Warriors – http://j.mp/vLACcr

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gBxSp8cN

by SpaceCityFan on Dec 10, 2011 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

They want their star

good bye Morey. good bye nene. Hello mad Scola, and Martin. wow. not good

by SpaceCityFan on Dec 10, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you not read the story?

The Warriors laughed them off the phone.

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by OremLK on Dec 10, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems like a desperation move

so that the lakers don’t have to give up anything more, or maybe acquire a power forward.

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Well just looking at the Lakers looking to other teams makes it look like we may be out now.

by Rockets78 on Dec 10, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

not really.

Pretty sure there just trying to get younger talent to make the deal alittle bit better.

by Dmo_Htx on Dec 10, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

No one can come close to what we can offer.

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by Xiane on Dec 10, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Portland maybe?

OKC?
Who else?

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by Xiane on Dec 10, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Realistically?

Nobody with an interest.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

At the end of that story, it mentioned that the deal had been resubmitted.

by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

How insulted is Pau Gasol right now?

Scale of 1 to 10

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by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

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by Xiane on Dec 10, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Offensively they're pretty close. Defensive rebounding is a push.

It’s offensive rebounds and D that set them apart.

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by Xiane on Dec 10, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Scola because of his heart.

But heart doesn’t create match up problems for other teams at the PF spot.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking earlier

about a scenario where Scola ends up on the Lakers…the first thing Scola should do, is set a dirty screen on Derek Fisher in practice.

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If Scola and Fisher are ever teammates

I quit.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Who feels like a new thread?

Is this one feeling worn out? I have a shiny new one for you…

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