AngstFM - Late Night Rockets Fear and Outrage
by Xiane on Dec 10, 2011 9:30 PM CST
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Good evening and good night gentle friends of Rocket Nation. This is Xiane, your late-night DJ, and I'll be here to share your joy, sorrow, outrage, frustration and separation anxiety. Usually a pleasantly disgruntled place, tonight Rocketland is roiled, boiled, toiled and troubled by an impending trade.
Nothing is easy for the Rockets. After parting with two quite good players, one interesting young player and one first round pick for what appears to be mopey 31 year old Catalan, Pau Gasol (who must be cheered by Baracelona's win today and who is likely to be 7 feet tall) the Rockets were told to try again, to bid against themselves. Now Rocketland is torn asunder in painful cogitation noodling out just which young favorites will join our veteran stalwarts in journeying to that shining example of NBA consensual management, The New Orleans Hornets.
One has to wonder whether one year of Chris Paul is worth Lamar Odom, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic, and a first round pick. I personally think Paul's a huge health risk who could go the sad way of Brandon Roy, and I'm perfectly willing to see LA take that risk.
Anyhow, speculate, vent or just let your ambiguous feelings flow as coherently as you can manage, dear ones.
What sort of music is appropriate for tonights sojourn into misery, despair, and just possibly, elation? Let me know.
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Nice isn't it?
Comfy like an old jacket.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
So, uh.
It’s been cold in Houston.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Cold is such a relative term. Cold for Houston.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Wait- I'm visiting right now and it's 53 currently
When I go back to Indy tomorrow night, I will be fortunate if it’s over 25 :P
I'm in Cleveland and woke up to snow today and will continue to for the next 4 months
It was 25 degrees today and before January will start to get into the negatives….I miss Houston “cold”
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 10, 2011 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
I have a friend in Wisconsin (who is from Austin)
I get emails like “Waiting for the misery to start. Any day now.”
and
“It’s here, the bleak frozen horror of Wisconsin.”
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Lol. Its pretty nasty
I work for the college campus, and from 730 to 200 i was shoveling snow on Friday…
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
Are you in Madison?
My friend is – his wife is getting a PhD there.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I'm in Lincoln, NE
Cornhusker
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry about Chuck BTW.
If you hang out at Sactown Royalty because you miss him you’ll find them pretty nice. At least I have.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I've posted on there a few times when things were rough for them.
Good guys, and thanks for the condolences.
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's really messed up
that in order to level up my heavy armor skill I have to just stand there and let the bear hit me. That’s been true since Daggerfall, but it’s one of the more annoying parts of all the Elder Scrolls Games.
I find Oblivion to be more fun than Skyrim.
Illusion is the funnest skill to play around with. I’m trying to play through the game without actually killing anybody, just having them kill each other.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
wrong
OFFICIAL ELDER SCROLLS POWER RANKINGS:
1) Morrowind
2) Skyrim
3) Daggerfall
4) Redguard
….
9001) Arena
9002) Battlespire
9003) All those mobile games
9004) Oblivion
There are about a billion reasons why Oblivion sucked, but first and foremost was the main quest feeling really dumb and forced on you, and second was the terrible artistic direction.
I quite like Skyrim, I think for the eye candy as much as anything. I just bought a new PC
and I installed the “HD textures” mod.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yeah, I'm really impressed
I wasn’t going to buy it at first because I was so disappointed with Oblivion, but then my friend got it. Started playing it at his place and was very pleasantly surprised.
Oblivion I gave up on after a fairly short while.
I didn’t like going to Oblivion.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I'll be honest with you.
All I played is Oblivion and Skyrim. Oblivion consumed my life for a couple of months, but I really loved it.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Yes. Morrowind is easily the greatest Elder Scrolls game.
I’ve been playing it for 8 years, and still play it to this day. I’ve never played any other game with that kind of longevity.
I was fairly disappointed in Oblivion, but I’m really enjoying Skyrim so far.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 9:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I did play Baldur's Gate 2 for quite a while, excellent game.
Same with Diablo 2, and Starcraft.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
diablo 2 and baylders
"Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy T, all up in that azz
by ShookednShanghaied11 on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just wish people would stop following me around, sharing their personal histories.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Jumping EVERYWHERE
Or running against a wall for a half-hour to increase your stealth skill.
You mentioning the stupid-as-hell character advancement system in those games makes me glad I’m playing through Dark Souls instead of Skyrim.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I'm wanting to give Dark Souls a try - I have a high tolerance for failure.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
You definitely fail a lot in this game
On the plus side the combat and character advancement are about 1,000,000x better than any Elder Scrolls game.
The combat reminds me more of Zelda, with like twice the complexity and five times the difficulty.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I'll get a gift certificate or something at Christmas and probably get it.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yeah, it's definitely more of a "buy" game than a "rent" game
Hundreds of hours of gameplay, potentially.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
There's some joke about this trade and Stern and a "high tolerance for failure"
But I can’t quite put my finger on it
I heard you can put your finger on it
but he still has the softies
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
So was the trade resubmitted or not?
Ive seen some sources say yes and no.
I don't think it's been confirmed for sure
And the pieces right now are anyone’s guess
Eric Pincus: There was no finished trade submitted for approval – instead packages discussed with Hornets (and thus NBA) – but no finished
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gC44h2tF
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Just watched Super 8 for the second time
looked up Elle Fanning, found out she’s only 13. Now I feel like a horrible person
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:36 PM CST reply actions
There's a third Narnia movie?
I remember being dragged to the sequel
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, we have it on DVR
I remember reading the books about 20 years ago but don’t remember a lot of details
I read the first one
rather enjoyed it. Just never bothered to pick up the others. I’m more of a non fiction person, with books that is. Autobiographies, that sort of thing
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm the exact opposite
I want fiction for my reading and watching pleasure. Different strokes for different folks, and all
I literally fell asleep in the theatre watching the first Narnia movie.
But, in fairness to the film’s producers, it was Christmas Eve and I was dragged into seeing it after a 3:00 AM to 3:00 PM shift at Best Buy.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hehehe.....
Good movie though
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
I jumped a few times when it first came out
just jumped a couple of times watching it on blu ray. I hate when crap gets really loud all of a sudden and scares the crap out of me
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
great movie...
HBO showed Hall Pass, good movie, a lot funnier than I thought…..
If you can feel them, they are real.
I'm gonna watch the latest episode of Psych.
I’ll refresh the HoopsHype twitter feed, in hope of something going down, every couple of minutes.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
wow, sounds like DM is putting up a fight. stern wants to fuck somebody. the lakers wanna contract that fuck to us, and we dont wanna get THAT freaky.
now the lakers wanna transfer that fuck to GS. I hope DM dont let us get fucked.
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
I trust Morey.
He may send Stern a letter bomb though.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
that would shake things up
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Some might think it sadly necessary.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
im quickly becoming one of them people
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
random nba news
Alex Kennedy: The New York Knicks have emerged as a surprising suitor for Jamal Crawford. Details: http://tinyurl.com/7wtazpn now
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gC5ewkZX
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Excellent idea - because there will be so many shots to go around.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
melos in the wrong place to suit his skill set
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think so
Melo is vastly overrated as a player. I think that fits perfectly with the Knicks organization.
he likes to isolate and hold the ball and beat his man one on one. knicks just up and down the court. shoot-shoot-shoot.
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
That's true.
I mean, adding Crawford they should be able to run people out of the building. Until playoffs, just like the Suns, sadly, as that was a team I really admired.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Just the kind of player they need
The Knicks are an example of how not to get a “big three”
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Does anyone on that team play D, especially with Billups gone?
Anyone?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
chandler
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Is he still there somehow?
And that SG they drafted, he plays some D I think. Forget his name at the moment, too lazy to look.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I was thinking of Fields, don't know too much about Shumpert other than his interesting name.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
tyson chandler...and fields i think plays decent d
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
when i think of New York defense
I think of 99’ Knicks with Kurt Thomas(when they faced the Spurs in the finals.) They were some low scoring games
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, wrong Chandler.
I thought he was gone.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
bloated contracts
They’ll find a way to stockpile stupid contracts and suck
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Just listen to Delilah on the radio
Always calms me down.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Thanks for reading.
I’ve got a “darkwave” station I made on Pandora – seemed apropos.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
That would probably work too
I also like Scala and Kolacny Brothers, which is a children’s choir singing popular songs (and some other stuff, too). Very low key and cool.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
You'll know pretty quickly if you like it or not
And if you don’t, I’m a big boy and can handle it.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
They are definitely my all time favorite Belgian girls choir.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Laughed so hard at this
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
In the blast from the past department
I think you’d like Durutti Column
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I'm sure I could look up what she looks like online
but I never have, I guess I don’t want to spoil my imagination of her
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, is Aaron Brooks not playing in this NBA season?
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Aaron signed a "no out clause" deal in China like a day before the deal was announced.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Stuck in China
can’t be let out of his contract
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
He signed a deal in China
stuck over there if I’m not mistaken
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Can't
Signed in China. None of those guys can leave.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Does this deal get announced tonight?
I should have added a poll…
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I say Monday around noon
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That much torture?
You’re probably right.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
No way
I don’t think it gets done tomorrow either. I think it goes down Monday, probably right before the 5pm SportsCenter
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, no way you want it to compete with the NFL tomorrow.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Exactly
Stern is going to put this out there for everyone to see
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Stern wil have a special
on Tuesday night on primetime to anounce his decision lol
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Stern will kill the second incarnation of this deal tomorrow night.
Then, inexplicably, approve the third incarnation, which will be identical to the original proposal.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 10:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lakers talking to GSW
What do you make of this :
gswscribe: In search of young talent to acquire Chris Paul, source says LAL offer Pau Gasol to the GSW – j.mp/vLACcr
Who did they want?
Just Monta, Curry, Udoh, Thompson and a 1st. No biggie.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Sources say I made that up, btw.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Haha
My favorite “Sources” was “Sources: Lakers interested in Paul and Howard.”
Um, no shit? I mean, you could say: “Sources: Everyone interested in all-star talent.”
Or “Sources: AK interested in hot women, and requires oxygen to survive.”
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Sources say Xiane will accept donations of money, food, fine wine, exotic automobiles, real estate, gold, securities and more.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
sources say Xiane will drop the X in his name in exchange for a Z
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, GS won't trade Curry if it doesn't net them Paul
And that’s the only “young talent” worth getting from GS. There are a few other guys I like, too. But not good enough.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
David lee
How about houston trading for David Lee and they sign Nene
correction
*and then sign Nene (houston that is)
David Lee vs Pau Gasol?
As much as I dislike the thought of rooting for the Spaniard on the Rockets, when you compare what those 2 bring on the court, that’s not even close to a competition.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
It's not ideal
Lee is not as as good as Gasol but we might be able to keep some young players. I am not sure its enough to attract Nene though
blah...
i’d rather keep Martin/Scola.
i don’t think we want to bring aboard Nene’s near-max contract unless we have a game-changing trade in place. Pau Gasol, coupled with Nene, changes things dramatically. David Lee is just more of the same.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Any word on what the current Rockets offer is?
Man, I hope it’s just an LA 1st rounder going to the Hornets. I don’t know how you can justify more youth/picks/talent from Houston.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
afc south winners
im excited
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Hell yeah.
Tomorrow will be epic.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I wish I shared your confidence that we'll beat the Bengals
I can’t seem to get out of pessimism mode after all the injuries.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
wade phillips says wtf, have some faith.
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody picked us to beat Atlanta last week.
Granted, their recievers dropped everything thrown at them, but the Texans still came out on top. This will sound corny, but I feel like this team might be destined to win out. I mean, 6 straight wins, with all of these injuries? It’s crazy.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We played two really good run defenses two weeks in a row.
Also the Bengals are down to like one cornerback.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
throw in some arian and i'd say thats exactly how the game will go
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Stern trying to screw us as much as possible
What if he pushes Morey right to the very edge of what he’s willing to give up, then turns the deal down anyway.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
well... he may be trying to screw LA a little
which I’d be OK with. but Houston getting screwed via collateral damage sucks.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
So, as we wait for any more news, anybody have any good movie recommendations?
Discussion point: Who is your favorite Rocket?
Matt Maloney
His three’s were awesome in that Sonics series
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
I watched Howl's Moving Castle on Netflix the other day
It was pretty good
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Pretty good?
That movie is incredible!
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Its got a hell of a story to it. Studio Ghibli has made some wierd, but great movies
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
It's actually based on a book
But the book is also really weird, so it worked out pretty well.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Yeah, it's not my type of movie either
But I gave it a chance and wound up enjoying it.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
If you like science fiction and somehow haven't seen District 9 I'd recommend it.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I think it's just excellent overall, with plenty of drama, painful drama. It's not explosion based.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Zulu is a good War Drama
If you have not seen it. It has a young Micheal Cain during the Zulu wars at the battle that is basically the Alamo if the Alamo defenders had actually won.
That's the one where they do Rouke's drift, right?
There’s also Zulu Dawn which is about Isandlwanda, in which the Brits are routed.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yea, thats Roukes drift
Zulu Dawn is good, and if you look at it as a prequel it is good (Its not bad on its own either), but Zulu has a little better acting to it and more emotion, at least to me.
I'd agree with that.
You could arrange a whole week of Victorian War dramas pretty easily.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I want a movie about the Anglo-Zanzibar War
They can do the entire war in real time, and still have 50 min for a 90 min movie to fill with fluff on either end of the war.
I've got a book recommendation for you (if you haven't read it)
Eminent Victorian Soliders – Byron Farwell
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
It's ok, we're not here to judge you.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Jon Jones is a bad motherfucker
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Off topic but...
Jon Jones completely put Machida to sleep. Dudes bad
Hm?
Matt Steinmetz: Warriors to sign DeAndre Jordan to 4-year, $40 million offer sheet Sunday. No Biedrins amnesty to do it. http://bit.ly/t4OBTN 3 minutes ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCEar7F1
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
they've got 3 days
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
They'll take 1
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
Can a restricted FA accept more than one offer?
Or does his signing an offer sheet, then it getting matched by the team end his FA status?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
That's the end of it
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
well Hell... DeAndre shouldn't sign the offer
He should hold out for more. Can’t somebody pass him the word that he’s worth more than that?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
no state taxes in texas
seriously, i’m not even joking. they need to make an offer for DeAndre.
i think $10MM/year is a low-ball offer for a young athletic talent like DeAndre Jordan.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Amnesty Thabeet gets Rockets at $12MM under the cap
They can offer DeAndre $12MM right now!!!
IF the Pau Gasol trade goes through, I like that frontline.
If trade doesn’t go through, we have a young C.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
If DAndre has signed it we're out.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
yeah... and the Clippers are set
i hope he knows this… and that the market will bear more for a C than $10MM/year. That’s only a little more than Biedrins contract!!!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Which thus far is not on amnesty.
Which is baffling. The guy needs a new home.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
is $48MM even enough?
actually, i bet the Clipper would even match that.
if people are talking $70MM for Nene, Clippers would be dumb not to match.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
This is how it works.
Unless some new CBA rule has caught me off guard.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
$10MM for DeAndre >> $9MM for Dalembert
Hell, I’d rather see Pau Gasol paired with DeAndre Jordan than Nene
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Oh hell yeah.
Jordan better than Dalembert right now with potential but id go with Nene anyday imo.
I'd like to see DM offer 4 years $48MM
whether the Pau Gasol trade goes through or not… (though it would have to go through to clear the cap space, i guess)
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
That's a weak offer I wouldn't mind seeing DM raise
Clippers will match. Not even a question, I don’t think.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
I like your username.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
lol
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
the Fro hopes you're laughing with it.. not at it
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Noone laughs at the fro....
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
man, your username depresses me
heartbroken to see Chuck go…. not even exaggerating.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I remember his first game as a rocket
He was running all over the floor and Bill Worrell just got so excited. I really admire his dedication to the game, going from the funniest free throw shooter in a long time to being reliable at the free throw line
That triple double last year...
That shit was crazy.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I was there for that.
It was hilarious.
I think it was a TDS night actually and everyone said “Is Chuck going to get a triple double? No way.” He almost had it at halftime.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
We were all freaking out!
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
I remember talking to you on that gamethread.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Lol. Same here.
Good times….made my month
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
memoriiiieeeesssss
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yup. I'm ridiculously depressed over him leaving...
hell, that letter I wrote was super depressing. I guess I’m now a Kings and Rockets fan.
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
are you going to keep the username?
or is there like a 6-month period of mourning before you move on?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
That happened with me and Landry
(who is a top five favorite Rocket of mine believe it or not)
And the Sacramento crew were extremely welcoming .
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
took a bullet for us
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
also his heart
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
i talked my gal into getting his jersey and she's pissed
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
There can be no shame in a Hayes jersey.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
she just dont undrestand that.
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
She just doesn't know how great the chuckwagon is
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Dec 10, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
I really hope he comes back in a few years to retire here on a one year contract
just to see him in rockets uniform a few more times
i tried to tell her if lebron had half the heart and dedication to master his craft as chuck, he would be unstoppable.
in the word of the great gary kubiak “he’s battling”
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Definitely.
He’s such a pest, and I always love when he gets steals on the inbounds after we make shots .
Rec'd
All Kubiakisms get an auto-rec!
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
by f22a4bandit on Dec 10, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
with
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry?
Who are you?
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I wouldnt mind overpaying for DeAndre. At least he is young.
I dont want to overpay for Dalembert though
Yeah. Def. like Jordan more. I’m not too down on Dalembert though. I think is stats per 36 minutes were like 12-12-2.5 or something like that. I could also see a crunch time lineup of Pau and Patterson(assuming we don’t trade him) if we had those three.
by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want to pay for Dalembert at all
by Splittinima6e on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Ha.
Zach Lowe: DeAndre Jordan attempted 17 shots in post-up situations last season, according to Synergy. All season. 1 minute ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCGOqaWN
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Lowe is awesome
Along with Wertheim and Winn, he’s one of my favorite writers on the web.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
He's a witty guy.
Also I need a synergy account.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Lakers are crazy.
Alvaro Martin: http://IBABuzz.com: sources say @GoldenStateWarriors were not interested in proposed trade with #LALakers, which required #StephenCurry. 1 minute ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCIIMQoA
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2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Hopefully that makes them
more wiling to commit to this deal and we can get this shit done.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
The Lakers didn't want to
include some of their young guys, maybe now they will.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
i dont think we are willing to give them what they want so their trying their hand elsewhere.
it will come 360 degrees and will be done on monday. then shortly after we will sign nene and all will be right with the world.
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
their getting desperate
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
If Biedrins gets Amnestied, why not pick him up?
Christopher Reina: DeAndre Jordan just had a 14.8 PER at the age of 22. Biedrins had two seasons of over 19.0 at 21 and 22 (which was just two seasons ago). now
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCJGNdfO
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2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I'd love love love to see what McHale could do with Biedrins.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
yeah... especially when it seems like confidence is Biedrins biggest issue
i keep thinking how some player, maybe K-Love, said McHale was great at motivation and helping him build confidence
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
McHale actually teaching the man post moves?
And those sky high blocked shots?
If we can fix Hayes FT, we can fix his.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
even without post-game, he'd bring a lot to the table
basically just block shots, grab boards, occasional dunk off an offensive board… i would be giddy with that sort of guy with Gasol or Scola at PF
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'd even consider offering his full $9MM (though maybe for only 2 years) to get him off the amnesty waiver
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
How does the waiver work?
Is it any team bids on him, or does it go like the NFL waiver wire does (worst team gets first dibs).
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
think it works like this...
all teams that are under the cap get to bid a portion of his contract. if none of the under-the-cap teams bids, he’s available for anyone to sign.
not sure how they would decide a winner when the number of years is different (eg, 1 yr $9MM for Biedrins vs 3 years $9MM total), because the rest is being picked up by the team that amnesty’d him.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
He wouldn't have agreed with anything.
That’s why he has been banished to Minnesota.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Khan cannot resist his will.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
T'Wolves have a pretty sweet lineup now
Just goes to show you, even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Watch them overachieve their asses off.
Damn you Adelman!
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
They really do.
Alotta athleticism and talent on that team.
stein...
CP3 Trade Latest: Sources say Lakers have pulled out three-team trade for Chris Paul
If you can feel them, they are real.
FUCK
Jonathan Givony: Strange twist to this Chris Paul saga. I’m told by a NBA source that the Lakers have just elected to pull out of the trade. 1 minute ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCNdHFcD
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I'm not going to lie.
I wouldn’t be mad at this, but I’m not thinking rationally.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Well splendid.
Thanks Stern – now we have to repair our team.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
are the rockets involved with that?
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
are you serious???
if it was the Lakers, i wonder if they wanted LA to include a first rounder (which they wouldn’t want to, so they can offer with Bynum for Dwight Howard).
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
still think...
LA may be willing to trade Pau to Houston.. They need our assets and picks!!!
If you can feel them, they are real.
Lakers out
Looks like its dead again.
Check out The Dream Shake.
by Patrick Harrel on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 PM CST reply actions
Looks like
we will get nothing and like it.
His entire tenure with the Rockets has been built up to getting a star.
This is fucking ridiculous.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
No, because there simply are no better SGs now, really.
You try to make him happy.
Scola will be fine, he has a home and big family here. He was really annoyed about having to move.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Hell no.. KMart will get over it
Odom might stay depressed. He seems sensitive that way. I’m not even kidding.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Gasol too, that man can brood.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
ha!
All this for nothing AND leagues gettin sued on Monday. Wonder if this has something to do with la being allowed to try n get howard. How great would it be if cuban fucked his chances of getting dwight by spearheading the kibosh on the cp3 deal?
Enjoy ur 1 championship dallas cuz cuban just fucked ur future up by sendibg tyson away and leaving la out there as a trade competitor
"Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy T, all up in that azz
by ShookednShanghaied11 on Dec 10, 2011 11:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't. Unless it's in sheer frustration, and then what would he do?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
He'd probably be a hell of a fantasy football owner
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think he might be that frustrated. I wouldn’t mind the Astros bringing him in some capacity. ha.
by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
I see Morey getting on the phones again and again...
Until he makes something happen.
Screw David Stern and the Lakers.
Wasting everybodys fucking time with this crap.
This trade was DONE.
It was OVER. Agreed to and finished. Everyone improved and Stern had to go Hitler on the NBA and fuck up the league and (hard to believe) his legacy forever.
Rockets get no Gasol, no Nene, and we just got set back three years easy.
Yep.
There’s really no precedent for this.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Most likely?
You’ll wake up tomorrow morning and he’ll be a Net.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
They are getting Dwight Howard
they don’t need to overpay Nene.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Good point.
Williams and Howard woud be lethal.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Stern has officially destroyed
the Hornets, they might as well be contracted now.
Hey getting absolutely nothing, rather than a whole team, for Paul is better for the game!
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yeah, no way they can find a taker for CP3 now
And if they somehow do, then, it will look like favoritism on the part of the NBA.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
i think he
1. thinks the team would be easier to sell with paul and
2. he can get something better closer to the deadline
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
For those of you still awake.
The three-way deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers has “fallen apart,” league source involved in talks says.
according to @WojYahooNBA
by rocketsfanfromseattle on Dec 10, 2011 10:57 PM CST reply actions
Wonder if the NBPA will sue now
There’s nothing they can really do.
Check out The Dream Shake.
by Patrick Harrel on Dec 10, 2011 10:58 PM CST reply actions
Yes, that was the clever part - no official action.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
here ya go
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217344/Lakers_Pull_Out_Of_Chris_Paul_Trade
If you can feel them, they are real.
from stein
So to recap: Lakers take Odom out of three-team CP3 deal and deal him to Mavs into new DAL trade exception created in Tyson Chandler deal
by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck the Mavericks.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
@daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source confirms @ESPNSteinLIne report that three-team trade for CP3 has fallen apart. Lakers will trade Lamar Odom into Dallas’ new TPE.
So Lakers dump salary (which what they've been trying to do all along)
and get what?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Wonder if Morey will quit over this, too.
I wouldn’t blame him. Fuck Stern.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Eh, I don't think so. I'll write something to that effect soon.
But we had the beginning of a contender. We don’t now. Still need a center or two.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
We essentially have nothing
now except pissed off players
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, it's a real problem.
But I also believe in young players improving. I have to. It’s what we have.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Let's not overreact
Scola is a pro… a good character guy. he’ll be least affected by this.
KMart might stew over this for a few days, but he’ll get over it.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
McHale is apparently great at jollying players - he'll jolly Martin.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
That's what Sandusky used to say about his players
too soon?
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate the Lakers in general, but this isn't their fault. We had a done deal.
Then it got crazy trying to somehow make it better. Lakers put all their assets on the table already – anything else no one wanted (Artest) or can’t be moved (Kobe).
Quick, name a good young Laker!
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Luke Walton!
hahahahaha… i kid, i kid.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck everything.
So to recap: Lakers take Odom out of three-team CP3 deal and deal him to Mavs into new DAL trade exception created in Tyson Chandler deal yesterday
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCPjcMIb
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Sucks for all the players involved
but sooner it’s over the better.
Stern royally screwed everyone involved
THREE YEARS.
This is what we’ve been set back. I just can’t FATHOM a professional sports league could be this inept. By not getting Gasol we have no chance to sign either Dalembert or Nene.
So we’re left with no star, no big and an unhappy Martin and Scola.
The NHL?
Before their catastrophe anyway.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I think Martin will be gone soon
Obviously Morey has no desire for him to be any sort of center to the team, so he can be disgruntled to the end. Probably trade talks fell apart cause Morey wouldnt give up the young players that they wanted like Lee, Patterson, Morris, or Lowry…cant blame him
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
Stern really shit the bed this time
I hope this marks the end of his tenure. The original deal was great for NO.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Only time will tell if this was good thing or bad thing.
by rocketsfanfromseattle on Dec 10, 2011 11:02 PM CST reply actions
Unquestionably a bad thing
Because there has been no change in the status quo except to piss off a bunch of players at their own teams and the NBA shoot itself in the foot and damage its own credibility.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Scola will be fine, Dragic will be fine. Martin is a sulker and it worries me.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Free Jordan Hil...!!!
Oh, sorry, not a good time for that?
this is worse for the rockets than anybody else
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
Lakers are full throttle on Dwight trade now.
Fuck. Everything.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Good for them
Ill Say it. After the league, Cuban, Cavs etc…pulled their shit. I now want the Lakers to go on a tear. I want them and Houston to be the only teams from the west to see the finals for the foreseeable future.
like dan marino?
"Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy T, all up in that azz
by ShookednShanghaied11 on Dec 10, 2011 11:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh well
at least we have the Texans.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 11:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Those of us who aren't Texans fans.
Well.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
i'll scoot over
have a seat
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Consider becoming one.
There’s absolutely no one on our bandwagon. First because no one wanted to change their Inept Texans narrative, then because of the QBs, but it is a real team.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
The Texans are my 2nd team (I hate that term).
I live in Houston, and I do regularly attend their games since 2007. I’m trying to score tickets to that playoff game that they’re going to lock up tomorrow.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Our bandwagon has a shakey axle, too many people jumping on and off
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
Screw the Chargers...
I’m gonna lose to them Sunday… Fuckin’ Bills man.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
Feel bad for you guys to stay up till 12 am for this to happen.
I think the worst part about it is that now kmart and scola have to report to camp.
by rocketsfanfromseattle on Dec 10, 2011 11:04 PM CST reply actions
Scola's taking it extremely well.
I don’t know if Martin wants to be a Rocket anymore.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I say cut him. We have enough offense but issues on defense, and kmart isn't the best defender in the NBA.
by rocketsfanfromseattle on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
fuck no. you dont cut the most efficient player in the league
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that the suggestion to cut him smacks of "I'm an idiot." BUT
the NBA is cracking down on their ticky-tack touch fouls that predicate about 80% of Kevin Martin’s game, and as a result his efficiency ought to come down to earth.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
I just replied to that -
we’ll see. I think he’ll be down somewhat, but not as much as you think. Unless they’re planning to make an example of him or something.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
They're working on improving flow of the game and not rewarding players for flailing wildly after a touch.
They speak to rip through plays and continuation work. Continuation is his bread and butter.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
I was thinking more of the rip through.
But much of me says that this will be very similar to the “Complaining Tech” where its very strictly enforced for six weeks, then it levels off. Because grabbing a guy on the way to the basket really should be a shooting foul. The rip through needs to go.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
The example
is apparently the Durant rip through move. Martin might make it work because his fake is just like his shot. Hard for refs to distinguish.
And that foul stuff
Everyone thinks it’ll be Martin – but he’s not the biggest step through foul. A huge number of calls come because he shoots a set shot from range, he up fakes then blazes by his man who reaches out to grab him to stop the lay up.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
D12 chasing time
Adrian Wojnarowski
@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Lakers and Hornets won’t pursue a direct deal for Chris Paul either, source says. “L.A. can’t give them what they need,” source says.
A freaking NBA title winning front court isn't enough for a short broken PG with one year on his deal?
Yes, yes, Chris Paul hung the moon, but I’ll predict he’s done within 4 years.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Even though we arent going to get talked about a lot, we got screwed the worst in this shit
We had our plan to make the trade, sign chuck, then get nene after amnesty of thabeet. Now we have none of that and two angry players that thought they were leaving. Its crazy how David Stern single handedly destroyed our team. If I were Morey, I would quit because all that hard work just got him nothing, and all the time he was saving up for that one move, and maybe it will still come, but until then he is stuck with “assets”. This is the most outrageous thing to ever happen in basketball.
Just sucks thinking about what could have been.
Nene was RIGHT THERE. Gasol was a ROCKET. Ugh. This has got to be it for Stern or I’ll boycott the NBA.
not paying the max for Nene is a consolation prize as far as i'm concerned
he’s just not worth a max contract.
and as much as i love what Pau Gasol brings on the court for the Rockets, i’m a little happy that i won’t have to be rooting for him next season
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
not making the playoffs is a real consolation.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
there's still time for other moves...
as long as Morey doesn’t quit, i think he can still make some good moves. maybe not as dramatic as this, but it’s back to the patient slow build.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
I think there is a good chance that
he does quit. Even if he doesn’t the Rockets are snakebit this year.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
So Stern basically
bailed out the Lakers while completely destroying the Hornets and fucking over the Rockets, awesome.
Odom is going to Mavs....looks like it might be Bynum/Gasol to Magic for Howard/TPE for Hedo.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:10 PM CST reply actions
pretty good plan b
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
sounds like it...very smart cuz they wanted to get howard before the nets did...
they know the nets will not go after cp3 since they have dwilliams.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Amare for CP3... that's not a bad option for New Orleans.
as long as Amare’s knees hold up.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Celtics leaders for Paul, apparently.
They’re all in on this years run apparently. Paul won’t sign an extension with them.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
i love Rajon Rondo
but PG isn’t their biggest need.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
That's a crazy turn of events.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
So, the Rockets are back to rebuilding and we don't need to post 3 of these "Nothing new to report" threads every day?
I’m down. Can’t wait to see where we send Martin because his crying about possibly being traded will wind up being cancerous if we don’t move him.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
Eh, I say he calms down.
It’s not like it was an insulting trade. It had to be those two to make the money work.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
So his comments and catty attitude have no bearing on evaluating the man?
His presentation and words were dejected and insulted, he spoke out last season about the asset comments, and now he sulks around on the court but he’s gonna get a free pass?
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
It can get worse?
Is he going to go snag a drink and flirt with a cheerleader after the offensive possession?
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
BD makes a good point.
This isn’t a first offense. Martin attributed the Rockets lackadaisical start last season to the fact that each player was worried about getting traded.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Yes he's a person with certain flaws.
Pau Gasol was complaining about this trade, would you not want him to come on that basis?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Pau was saying he liked LA. I trust Pau to be a professional about it.
None of his interviews suggested he’d sulk or wouldn’t get back to business. Scola’s responses did the same. The only one dejected and isolated was Kevin Martin. As far as guys who want to be here, if they’re on multi-year deals, I don’t care. If they want another payday they’ll play their asses off. If I’m Kevin Martin I try to mend bridges, maybe act like defense is something I’m moderately interested in, and play for the team I’m signed to right now. Kevin’s no more entitled to job security than Kyle Lowry or Jordan Hill.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with that.
I’ve been saying he’ll be jollied up and this will blow over. Maybe it shouldn’t be that way, but that’s what I think will happen.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I just look at the example set by Luis and want to shake him and scream "Why can't you man up like this?"
Scola knows its a business and he’s just blessed to be playing. Do I think Scola needs to be traded? If we’re rebuilding, hell yes. Do I think he’s a class act and an example for Martin? Absolutely.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
This is Martin's MO
He’s a sensitive guy. I’d like to see more of Luis’ attitude, but this is the NBA. Martin is hardly the biggest prima donna, or even close.
Luis was probably more distraught, having a house and like 5 kids here I think.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
This ^
Whenever I’ve read stuff like this lately, I go back to thinking about Brandon Roy retiring. What a good guy, the league needs more players like him.
Roy was a class act
Wish he could have played an entire career, rather than draw the short stick with degenerative knee problems
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
by f22a4bandit on Dec 10, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
McHale said
he was the hardest worker on defense that first day of practice. Even though the trade thing had just been rescinded.
Also, Courtney Lee deserves to start.
But that’s beside the point. Let’s sell high on Martin!
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Also, I'm happy to see TDS come back to life, even if it's been in a grueling and annoying fashion.
Through no fault of our own.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Agreed, TDS has had a BRB like following the last few days
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
we might actually up the offer that the warriors gave Jordan 4yr/40mil
or pursue Okafor, Nene, or whoever….lol
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
If Jordan already signed it.
It’s too late. A RFA can’t sign more than one offer sheet.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
4 years, $48MM... everyone say it with me now, Free DeAndre Jordan!!!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
That's expensive DeAndre Jordan.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
I was pro-DeAndre Jordan if we were going to go balls deep and submit a large offer.
I was even pro Jordan if we had the Gasol trade go through. At the end of the day, I am also on record of saying that if Thabeet averaged 7 points, 7 boards, and a block or so per game this board would still call him trash but would fling 12 mil a year at DeAndre Jordan because Houston fans love to shit on what talent they do have in favor of someone else’s toy.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
I thought we loved what we have immoderately and despised all else?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
When we try to trade a guy, he's franchise.
When it comes to evaluating our own talent, we undercut it to the point that it’s worthless. When it comes to Centers? If it’s someone else’s it is better than ours. If it’s a star player? Ours are clearly stars, until they play for us, then they’re pure shit. Or they’re fan favorites and thus worth 10128185098102958 pesos a month.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
I think you're betting on him getting better
but what he already brings, in raw form, is already a rare commodity. I like betting on that, rather than $16MM on Nene’s maxed out potential.
man, how the hell did we ever have both Yao Ming and Dikembe Mutombo on the roster?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
Rockets need a big man...
Martin is disgruntled…
Utah needs a SG
they are shopping Jefferson
My guess is next target is big AL
If you can feel them, they are real.
i'd do that
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not a bad idea, though I have concerns about his ability to play the C.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
And his knees, but why not, eh?
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
Maybe try and acquire him along with one of the centers we were looking to sign?
by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
dalembert or maybe even nene still. and try and move scola again
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Get involved in a three team deal trying to get Gasol in the Dwight Howard trade?
by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t know what the deal is with commissioners completely screwing my teams lately.
by MadMartygan on Dec 10, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
he does have a post game.. we have to admit that
Al Jefferson and DeAndre Jordan…!!!! Do it now!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
that would be awesome
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
He's not a true center, in my personal opinion.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Sums it up nicely.
Bruce Arthur: So to sum up: The NBA screwed Houston, screwed NO/Chris Paul, made a joke of governance, and mayyy have helped the Lakers get Dwight Howard. 1 minute ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCSbxOAZ
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
Sounds about right.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 11:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
IMPEACH STERN!
@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Says one Western Conference executive: “The Lakers are shifting toward trying to make a Dwight Howard deal.”
Cuban complains about the CP3 trade, and somehow ends up with Odom?
Fuck that guy
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
ya know what...
I think Odom is redundant to Dallas with what Marion brings.. Odom to Dallas doesn’t do much IMO.
If you can feel them, they are real.
odom is a risk though...he has one great year...not sure he can duplicate that...
but still better than what the mavs have considering they lost butler, chandler, etc.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
no way... Odom is way underrated
he’s so skilled and big. all sorts of match up problems.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
I guess I should think on the bright side
at least we can now have a roster full of pissed off players and sign Dalembert I can’t wait for our 14th pick in next years draft.
It's going to be better than that.
The old powers are slipping, and the Rockets young team will improve. IF WE GET A CENTER.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
even adding a Biedrins or Dalembert probably gets the current Rockets in the playoffs
but i think DM will continue to work for a more substantial deal.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
If you're only going to be happy w/ championship or #1 pick next season
i’ve got news for you, Pau Gasol wasn’t going to bring you either of those.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
I dunno, this year has a very weird feel
For some reason I think Miami is going to end up injured and relying on Battier.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
what if Rockets got Al Jefferson and Biedrins?
all the sudden the upcoming season has a lot of intrigue.
and i gotta say.. i’m so glad i won’t have to root for Pau Gasol next season.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
That's funny.
I’ve never hated Pau. I save it all, and its a lot, for Kobe.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I don't hate Pau Gasol
I hated Bill Laimbeer, but I would’ve loved rooting for him on my team.
Something about Pau Gasol—i don’t know what it is—i just don’t like the thought of forcing myself to like him.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
It's because he looks like an ostrich
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Hey dude, let's not diss the 14th pick, apparently they're franchise caliber players according to sentiment here.
I mean Patrick Patterson? One of a kind. Marcus Morris? There can only be one!
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
Man I hope Patric Patterson proves you wrong
just so that we have star some how
He did win the IC title
I say that proves that he is a star.
by Silentjay on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well Kwame Brown sez:
“Hey BD, where you are picked is everything, dude.”
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
He was there, waiting to say his piece.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
And the law of probability says
“Hey everyone else, BD is probably right.”
I like Patterson, I’m just not about to fool myself and think that he’s going to be a franchise PF. I see him more as a David West kind of guy.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
by BD34 on Dec 10, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, you're not likely to get a HoF player with the 14 pick
you’re not incredibly more likely to get one at 2.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I'd like to see actual probability numbers on that one.
I somehow feel that guys like John Wall, Lebron James, Blake Griffin, and Hakeem Olajuwon tend to get drafted first rather than in the teens.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
Of course they do.
I’m not disputing your point, but you’re more likely to get a very good, rather than great, player, even very high. In the teens you’re more likely to get an average, rather than very good.
The real difference makers come along about every 2-3 years, even that high. Griffin and Wall certainly have started off well, but we’ll see. You could have been in the draft that produced LeBron or you could have gotten Kyrie Irving.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I feel like too many people prey on that uncertainty of caliber of draft class as though that challenges the integrity of my point at all.
Yes, classes vary in strength and draft picks are hard to predict because they’re human beings, but at the end of the day none of that matters when you have a competent front office drafting in the statistically best positions to get franchise players. Just because something isn’t guaranteed doesn’t mean it’s not significantly more likely than not something will happen.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
I know your arguments very well by now. I don't find them as compelling as you do.
This would make a very interesting study if I worked in an NBA front office. I’ll try to see if I can find something about it.
How many bites do you get at #1? Not too many. Not with the lottery, not with a team simply improving with very good players drafted and thus leaving the 1-3 ranks.
The quality of the year does deeply affect the probability of getting a franchise player. You can’t expect consecutive bites at #1 under any circumstances, which would almost certainly land you a franchise player.
So – the probability of a franchise player are very much higher at the 1-3 picks. Very true. But I’d say it’s as likely that a Very Good, rather than Great player is equally probable in any draft.
The overall probability of the franchise player appearing in any draft is skewed by the quality of any given draft class, and your front office won’t be able to draft a LeBron if there simply isn’t one. You also can’t be sure you get Durant instead of Oden.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
The feeling is mutual about the familiarity with argument and no compelling.
You can never be sure of anything but acting as though that is a reason for any behavior or non-behavior is not proper.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
If the probability is low enough
and the cost of the behavior high enough, I would say it does justify behavior.
I do see where you are coming from, I just don’t think the odds of the payoff you are seeking are good enough to shoot for that result.
Unless you can rig the odds with lots of promising picks from other teams as well, for example.
I’ve really tried to address your argument, I simply think that when you consider all the factors that the expected payoff you seek isn’t likely enough to justify the other associated costs.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
yall talking about tanking?
if you look at the teams with multiple top-half-of-the-lottery picks in the last several drafts, the results are pretty unimpressive. (Minnesota is tragically bad.)
the only exception is Durant, Westbrook, and Harden, which is obviously a great core. but if you say Oden, Westbrook, Harden, then that team is unlikely championship caliber.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 11, 2011 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
You're speaking my language.
I have a feeling this is going to end in an “Agree to disagree” with BD and me.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Atlanta is another good example
They’ve had all sorts of lottery picks (Marvin Williams, Shelden Williams, but Horford) AND signed a max FA.
And they are so screwed. Horford and Joe Johnson are not carrying that team to a championship.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 11, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
When you're trying to bolster your cause I don't suggest using some of the worst run teams in the NBA.
That’s like telling me conspiracy theories are legit because some homeless dude with a tin foil hat and moon boots told you they were.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
clyde was a 14
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 11, 2011 2:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
There's 1.
The draft’s been going on for how long?
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
They've had drafts
other than the Yao and Hakeem years?
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
somewhere thebeets ears are burning
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
thabeet
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
I should be pissed, but I'm too tired.
Maybe in the morning, after I read news articles regarding this clusterfuck, and read that Nene signed with somebody else. Maybe then it will hit me.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 10, 2011 11:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I asked earlier:
Would you rather give up a rookie with potential or have the deal fall through. Here we are. David Stern needs to be gone.
I'm mad as hell
@ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Rockets have to be fuming right now. Dream of Gasol/Nene front court likely dead.
Adrian Wojnarowski asked an "executive on a team that has interest in Chris Paul" if they would try to trade for Paul now.
Adrian Wojnarowski: Front office executive on re-entering CP3 derby: “My initial reaction is, ‘Who wants to go through that headache with the NBA playing God?’” now
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gCUYYmsk
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
I just keep picturing him in a black cloak shooting lightening out of his fingers at young Skywalker
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's hard for something as big as the NBA to go under
But Stern and co. are making their best go at sinking the ship.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I call BS
The best PG in the league…. If I were GSW, i’d tell the reporters the same thing, then try to pull a trade for CP3. Montae Ellis being the primary piece.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
One year. If you can't sign him why do it.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
SF is a big city
NYK just blew their wad to get Chandler, and won’t have any cap room to sign him. Maybe GSW gets Amare to pair with Steph Curry in a year’s time.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
But GSW remain GSW until proven otherwise.
And no one seems to care that other cities are actually really good. It’s all NY, LA, and for some reason, Miami, which is sort of a pit in general, but would be fun for a young single guy.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
New owners are big spenders, right?
why wouldn’t NO just trade CP3 for Amare? if that’s anything more than Twitter rumor, i’d be looking into that.
otherwise, there’s not a lot of cap space available unless CP3 wants to play for the mini-MLE.
I wonder what Laker cap situation looks like? that Odom move is a bitch.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Still miles and miles over.
There are so many nasty motives in this whole thing it’s just amazing. Lots of owners want LA stuck at 90 million and paying through the nose.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
My wife's comment when I explained all this as best I could
“Maybe they just shouldn’t have had a season.”
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
...ever again.
I’m sick of the NBA and this may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for me.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
NBA is like the cute but chubby chick you text when you're drunk
it’s there forever!!!
If you can feel them, they are real.
i love the NBA
where ridiculous happens
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Chris Mannix understands
Rockets have to be fuming right now. Dream of Gasol/Nene front court likely dead./blockquote>
Ok, playing Devil's Advocate (I'm a law student so it's good practice).
I’m guessing the Nets ramp up trade talks with the Magic to get Dwight quick now that they know LAL wants him, so is there a chance we still trade some players and entice Nene to sign if NYN have their hearts set on Howard?
Do we even still want Nene at that ridiculous price tag, with no Gasol?
I vote no.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Brook Lopez anyone???
Hahahaha… just kidding. not really.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Nene at his price tag with no one to pair him with yet?
I’d rather fellate a hot curling iron.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
Nets must be shitting bricks right now!
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Dwight Howard requested trade to Nets
The Russian is shitting into a gold plated toilet and wiping his ass with dollar bills. (sorry, i don’t know what i mean by that.)
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
no wonder morey tweeted his frustration after the intial trade being nixed at possible quitting..
this might have just done it for him…..lol…
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:31 PM CST reply actions
Yah.. I'm sad now.. I'm gonna sleep this over.
Night everybody.
I feel like we need Stern in a Dos Equis set up where it says
“I don’t always fuck up franchises, but when I do, it’s catastrophic.”
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
-TCWIR paraphrased
New Orleans will trade CP3
The Rockets definitely got corn-holed the worst by Stern this week.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 10, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Well according to ESPN scheduling
we dont exist
"...but when I do, it's usually the Rockets"
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
i bet Cuban has influenced this trade alot especially getting Odom for TPE
but i bet his plan was to keep the Nets from getting Howard, thus DWilly is not gonna extend if no Howard…Cuban will swoop in to get DWilly in offseason or even CP3….i believe his name will surface about this sudden shift in trade talks.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:45 PM CST reply actions
Oh if the Nets don't sign D-Will
The Mavs will be one of the biggest players for him. No doubt.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
How long before the new rumor concerning the Rockets starts?
I’ll give it less than a week. I’ve got my eye on Atlanta…
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
from who?
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Source?
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
2011 Vancouver Canucks - The closest feeling to winning I've ever had.
i understand
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
From another board, just speculation of course...i think
Dallas: Lamar Odom
Houston: Pau Gasol
Lakers: Chris Paul, Emeka Okafor, Jason Smith (S&T), Marcus Banks (S&T)
New Orleans: Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, 2012 First Round Picks (Houston, Lakers, Mavs), 2012 Second Rounder (Minnesota via Dallas), Derek Caracter
Then…
Lakers: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu
Magic: Andrew Bynum, Jason Smith, Ron Artest, Devin Ebanks
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:53 PM CST reply actions
No Way
Mark Cuban is facilitating LA to get Howard and CP3. Well maybe he would if he got DWill as a consolation prize.
If we lose Morey
over all this. I will not be responsible for my homicidal response to David Stern.
he's battling
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 10, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd haha
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
he probably hasn't had any sleep in bet in the last 48hrs....no doubt...
by inquisitiveman on Dec 10, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
Might as well sleep now
it’s all over.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 11, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
Your right
Caroll Dawson come back! We miss the Luther Heads of the world
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 11, 2011 3:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The worst part:
All the talk on ESPN will be of NO and LA. No mention of how the Rockets got screwed the worst.
Mike Bresnahan)LA Times) is saying that Odom is moving in a straight salary dump and not in an attempt to get Howard.
by inquisitiveman on Dec 11, 2011 12:03 AM CST reply actions
The Lakers have always been trying to move off salary in this.
They’re at 90 million. Think about that, nearly 2x the Rockets. They’ve concluded that the current cast won’t win another title, and that they’re stuck with whatever they can get out of Kobe. Therefore salary must go and new, better, players must arrive. If you’re LA that is.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
also, i think they're trying to save money to get cp3 or dwilly this offseason but that is a risk
since those guys could end up signing extensions by then. either way, i still think kobe will need to restructure his salary this offseason…he will make 27mil next yr. and then 30 mil in 2013
by inquisitiveman on Dec 11, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Lakers got a couple of picks for the trade of Odom....a 1st rounder and something else
by inquisitiveman on Dec 11, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
they need that
Though I’d prefer to see them crash and burn for a decade.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!!
right?
i still have faith in Morey.
jackie moon?
"Lets go rip the mothafu#kin heart out these haters!"
by F-BombTheJets on Dec 11, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Rockets could swing a sign and trade with Paul to Clippers, Jordan to Houston, and the same stuff goes to NOH
but like Clippers could be more involved than the lakers…just spitballin
but Stern doesn't like what we'd want to ship to New Orleans
besides, DeAndre Jordan is just an incremental gain (though one I really like). you can’t give away Scola/Martin/Dragic/#1 for an incremental gain (especially when you can just make a big offer for the restricted FA).
Pau Gasol was sort of game changer because he has a great offensive post game. you supplement that with some other FA big, even if he’s not as good (or expensive) as Nene, that represents a dramatic, game-changing move that you trade away that talent for.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 11, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Plus anything beneficial to the Rockets gets an automatic veto from Adolf Stern
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Dec 11, 2011 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
Screw this
We should have won it all in 2005. Screwed by the League that year too!
fuck Marc Cuban
and the whistleblowers……Tmac was a beast
by Splittinima6e on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
To Quote the band Sweet
Stars are like oxygen
You get too many you get too high
Not enough and you’re gonna die
Stars gets you high
Or something, something….Screw you Cuban
Well my opinion regarding the NBA's integrity has been confirmed.
Sadly.
Thanks for coming by TDS everyone, it was a party for a while, and then it was a wake.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Jesus
I spent ten minutes on Clutchfans just now. Longest year of my life. I think my eyes started to bleed.
Somebody come up with a good plan for a center we can get....then submit to Morey please!!
by inquisitiveman on Dec 11, 2011 12:25 AM CST reply actions
It kind of helps..
to watch youtube highlights of the good times… see: 22-game win streak.
go look up Kevin McHale highlights if you never saw him play
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
I remember them
don’t need to look them up….did not like him much back then.
But, I keep hoping that he will teach Jordan Hill or some of those other bigs how to do those fabulous post moves that made everyone shake their heads.
ugh
local news here in LA is making fun of stern. repeating rumors that lakers will get howard and clippers will get paul. as much as I would hate having to hear about it from the locals, I now want both of them (and dwill too) to go to big market teams just to rub it in his smug little nose.
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