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Rockets Drop Spurs 101-87 In Preseason Game 1

So our two preview games have begun. The time of the season when coaches can begin getting a look at how their players stack against people they haven't been practicing with is a time for evaluation, technique development, and progress assessment. Is it a guaranteed thing that what you see in the preseason is a prequel to the actual season? Of course not. As it stands what stood out to me throughout this game was the progression of Jordan Hill and Hasheem Thabeet. Their techniques and motors seemed to have been found and Jordan Hill showed strong with 17 points and 13 rebounds (8 of which are offensive). Thabeet gave us 4 points, 3 rebounds, and a block but shot alterations don't show in the stat sheet and the Spurs recognized he was 7'3" and standing in the middle of the court for us. Hill contributed a block as well. Luis Scola continued his string of consistency with 20 points and 5 rebounds for the Rockets today.

What follows below is the live game journal I kept. It's not a formal recap but it gives you a quarter by quarter assessment of the Rockets, the player, the number, the offense in general (When noteworthy) and the defense in general (When noteworthy). Consider this an immediate reaction/small scale recap with actual valid analysis to come from my fellow writers in the coming days. Tomorrow you'll get my thoughts on things along with my new twitter hashtag #BD34sThabeetBandwagon

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1st Quarter

#4 Scola – Not shaken by the trade, fluid in the offense, not really surprised by any of it.

#12 Martin – Looks more to facilitate, first couple of shots didn’t fall, starting to run a motion offense weaving through the top.

#7 Lowry – Focusing more on driving, I appreciate it. Not really looking to jack up shots. The popular topic of the night is that Kyle Lowry has indeed slimmed down, toned his muscle, and no longer looks to be lugging around baby fat.

#10 Budinger – Looks lost out there trying to piece together his place. One in rhythm shot that you see as could have been passed up

#27 Hill – Really happy to see his footwork and movement in the post is improved. Looks to know just how important he is to our rebounding. Showed intelligence with the ball under the basket. I’m a big fan of his hustle, seems like he knows what he wants and how to get it. Needs to show a little more tenacity when it comes to his post game, got out-muscled by Tiago Splitter but I’ll take it.

#1 Williams – A bit excited when driving the lane, good elevation, needed to know what was going to happen when he took off. That will improve with actual minutes. In the offense he looks a little lost from time to time but the issue behind that is he just needs exposure. Beautiful drive, learning how to get his speed as an asset for himself.

#5 Lee – Corner 3 was all I’ve seen so far, good spacing.

#9 Flynn- I appreciate the fact that he knows he’s better when driving in to collapse a defense. Did a good job with it. Made some of the same mistakes Williams did, got excited and drove in too quick. Needs to recognize his mismatches. His speed near the end of the quarter made me happy on the inside.

#32 Thabeet – Needs his arms up on defense, got turned on his guy’s hip and caught with his pants down after the board. Good put back board and follow through, Flynn’s pass hit off his knee.

Defense – The team is actually moving and talking. Looks like the team is well aware of their spots and is actually on the floor to play defense. They seem a bit eager to collapse in and help from time to time but it gets them lost on shooters. That most likely has more to do with youthful excitement than an actual flaw.

Rebounding out of a free throw was a bit messy, team just collapsed on it.

When the one on one breakdown starts to take place our youngsters have a tendency to over commit, that’ll have to tone down with practice.

2nd Quarter

#4 Scola – How many different ways can you praise Scola’s offensive game? Not much to add to impressions here, he just produces. I stand by my comment that he is better than Bosh, would hate to see him out of Houston as a person, as a player, you can recreate him.

#7 Lowry – Knows how to use his aggression and drive properly. Kyle converted a brutal play where Dragic got leveled and I really appreciate how he absorbs contact.

#10 Budinger – Is it bad that I really want Budinger to have a horrible season so I don’t have to hear "Hey Bud, let’s party!" all the god damn time? Budinger seems to know if his shot is not going to fall he best go ahead and try to rebound. Part of me wonders if he sees Williams’ performance in practice and knows he has to step it up in case he translates it to the court. I’m actually really impressed by his rebounding.

#27 Hill – Beautiful recognition of the proper cut to make with the broken down play. I am loving Jordan’s follow up and his hustle on the offensive rebounds. I’m beginning to think I might have a little bit of an ability to see some talent in a guy.

#1 Williams – He was aggressive and paid for it and blocked shot on the drive. Poor charge call, Williams was driving properly, bad reputation call. You have to pay some credit to his aggression, needs to learn to use his body to create space. Air balled a 3 and I’ll come back to you when I discover how to actually craft an offensive game for him.

#5 Lee – I’ve been waiting to see Lee put up a good shot all game. Seemed intent on sealing off Ginobli’s left hand, which is the intelligent thing to do, but dry humping the screener isn’t the best of ideas.

#9 Flynn – Showing some good passing abilities and recognition, took the wrong spot on the screen but he made something of it, well done. Followed up a good possession by dribbling it out and launching a bad shot a la Francis. Consistency needs to be established.

#32 Thabeet – One hander and followed it up by converting the shot. So far so good. Beautiful one on one work and discourages shooters. Showing some slow improvement in his control of his body. Great offensive rebound, pass, and block in transition. I’ve been seeing a lot of good rebounding and intelligent passing from Thabeet near the end of the 2nd. Rockets end the half +13 with him.

#3 Dragic - Loving him running as the back up 2 guard, knows where his shot is, fully capable of handling the ball and freeing Lowry up. Impressed by his presence of mind after he could have shattered an ankle to feed the ball to Lowry, good recognition.

Offense – Beautiful movement to the offense early in the quarter, the team seems intent on moving the ball. The bigs are definitely looking to clean up the sins of the shots of the offense.

Defense – Good rotation and movement, having Thabeet in the middle is actually paying dividends. Happy to see McHale using the Thabeet/Hill rotation to clog up the middle, it was one of the combos I advocated last year and I have nothing but belief in it. This team definitely feeds its defense off its offense, the quickness Kyle is showing is something to behold.

3rd Quarter

#4 Scola – For a guy who is so automatic you gotta take the shot, Scola is too reliable with that jumper to wait so long to dish.

#12 Martin – Not sure I’m a fan of this McHale edition of the Rockets operating with Martin’s quick transition 3’s. Good play that had the potential for a break with Jordan breaking down the middle of the lane was passed up for a 3 pointer, which hasn’t been falling for him tonight.

#7 Lowry – He’s a fantastic floor general. I appreciate what he does for this team. Great recovery off his big men’s hustle.

#10 Budinger – Finally cans a 3 in the early goings of the 3rd.

#27 Hill – All he does is contribute and keep plays alive, I’m loving him in this game.

#2 Morris – Quality defensive stand, he’s definitely a dedicated player by not leaving his feet to intimidate his man. Has to watch the reach in when a player is coming at him on offense. Wondering if maybe Morris is trying too hard to prove himself, forcing some downright awful shots early. He’s a rookie, that’ll come with time.

#1 Williams – Shows up and instantly gets to work on the boards, he’ll need to rely on that if he is working his offensive jitters out. Good break down of the defense for a short pull up jumper, when he collects himself I think he can be pretty special.

#3 Dragic – I’m liking Dragic’s big presence defense.

Offense – Sadly there is a point where the youngsters get too nervous or too unselfish. Bad sequence around 2:30 where no one was willing to take the shot or take it to the hoop without trying to share the rock.

Defense – Transition defense is something that I haven’t really seen much of, the Rockets are keen to sprint right back and not relent on a possession, I’m liking that. The team’s defense seems to be predicated right now on gang rebounding but I’m not entirely sure that they need it. Jordan has been a dominant rebounder so far.

4th Quarter

#27 Hill – Want blocks? He’s got them. Want hustle? He’ll give it to you? Boards? How many?

#2 Morris – When the play is extended a la Thabeet’s lanky arms gumming up a play he’s sure to get himself up in the air and draw some contact.

#1 Williams – I’m a fan of Williams’ recognition on the fast break to start the quarter, pass had to be corralled a bit and he did a good job of getting his hands on it for a layup. Williams is starting to feel it on offense, pulling it together. Seems like Williams is determined to be the anti-Lebron, big in the 4th quarter. Williams skies for a rebound and rips through two players to extend for a lay up, color me impressed.

#5 Lee – Called for an offensive foul, I’d rather get called for that and see him aggressive than keep seeing him hucking bad shots.

#32 Thabeet – Saddened by a confused rebound situation early in the 4th, collided with a teammate but I’ll let that go, it was another long shot for Morris who hasn’t really been able to connect so far. Thabeet does a good job of keeping plays alive with those lanky arms if he can’t manage to get his hands on the ball.

#3 Dragic – He showed good recognition to start the quarter with the pass to Williams.

#0 Smith – A couple decent plays, wouldn’t mind seeing him relegated to the D-League.

#17 Lin – Sure can dribble down a game clock.

Offense – Transition attack needs to focus more going towards the basket, the odd habit of pulling up in transition needs to go away, drastically reduced percentage to hit.

Defense – Switch defense needs to improve late in games, the Rockets seem content to mix their coverage. They’ll pop out on a guy and let the pass go around them without bothering to close out. The duo of Dragic and Williams is a nice little tandem for defensive purposes.

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It was interesting.

In the first half we saw the guy contending for the turnover rate record, and in the second we saw what all the fuss was about – rebounding, running the floor, playing good D, scoring off drives.

Second half TWill is an all star. It’s only one game, but I mean that in all seriousness.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

seems to be a short preseason thing

The guys that did well are the guys that’s been with the team and had some basic chemistry with each other. Johnny Flynn and Morris on the other hand doesnt have the same familiarity with the teammates, where they are going and what’s the best decision, You can see the thinking process of “what should I do now” in these 2 players whenever they get the ball.

T-Will seems eager to impress, once he calmed down a bit, he started to have a good game

by NVP on Dec 17, 2011 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

I was impressed with Flynn.

Played well in both the half court and in the open court. Same can’t be said for Dragic (struggled in half court).

He made some really nice passes, pulled down 5 rebounds, and more importantly, just had 1 TO.

Going to be a hell of a fight between him and Dragic. My money’s on Flynn.

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by bone31crusher on Dec 17, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

There the trade off between speed and size as well

Switch form Lowry to Dragic has an interesting change of pace in that Dragic has the size and the intensity to play the bigger guards and the ability to shoot over smaller guards

Flynn has the speed to keep up with the quicker guards, he has the same disadvantage as Lowry when it comes to guarding bigger guards

Dragic may very well have more time in the off guard position in a small formation or in case one of our SG gets traded

by NVP on Dec 17, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll take Dragic.

He finished the game really strong and his size and D give him the advantage.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

As for Morris,

I wouldn’t really worry about him. Will be playing the power 3 once Patterson comes back. That’ll be his true position in time.

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by bone31crusher on Dec 17, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

So what's up with Patterson anyway?

That ankle thing was a while ago.

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by Barragan on Dec 17, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Removed bone spurs when he thought the lockout was going to last.

He’s back in 10 days tops.

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by BD34 on Dec 17, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah Morey said he'd be back very soon

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by TheLastDynasty on Dec 17, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Patterson will be fine when he comes back.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it me or does Kevin Martin really not fit this offense the way he did before?

The Adelman offense was way too perfect for him. I mean, you could just play him like Ray Allen/Rip Hamilton and run him off screens but I feel like he’s more than that. Or at least that’s what I’d like to believe.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 17, 2011 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

Seems like he's not used correctly or was having an off game

signs of things to come I guess

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by TheLastDynasty on Dec 17, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that Kevin is starting to look like an odd man out.

As it stands he’s our best offensive player but I noticed much less transition shooting tonight. I really hope that’s indicative of things to come. Missed 3 pointers in transition are pretty brutal. It exhausts your bigs and wastes your possessions.

I think Kevin’s writing may be on the wall with the stepped up defense and effort we saw tonight. This half court orientation works if you can generate your own offense (Like Williams in the 4th) but it doesn’t help if Martin wants to settle for jumpers.

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by BD34 on Dec 17, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

He's got to get his game timing down on his shot.

This sort of game (ie first preseason after a long, long, layoff) will favor playing inside and rebounding more than Martin’s game. Lee similarly looked out of sorts. It’s funny, I hadn’t realized Lee had come in on one play in the first half and caught myself saying “Wow, that’s some nice D from Martin there – no wait, it’s Lee.”

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Lee looked off as well.

But his defense was stout as ever.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 17, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, you could use the Peja comparison and say that Peja was never the same player after Adelman left. Hell one year, Peja got a couple of MVP votes IIRC.

I still think Kevin Martin is a very important part of the offense. His game is predicated on rhythm for himself and with his teammates. I think it’ll build up again by the start of the season.

by VBG on Dec 17, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Down the road

and it may be a very short alley, I see Martin getting traded to Minn for a big or two.
That sets up Lee and Bud as starters. Meanwhile Morris goes to D-League for finishing school and the second unit is Dragic,Williams…and Parsons.
Not because Parsons is a better player,but he might be a better fit w/a harassing,running unit of Williams and Dragic.(And it was interesting that Williams was running offense as much as Dragic.)

I do think part of kevin’s effort last night was vet’s blah. A pre-season game where he has nothing to prove,pretty safe to think he wasn’t mentally dialed in-witness his missed FTs.

by Tisbee on Dec 18, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I’m sure Minny has inquired about Martin’s availability. But do they really have anything the Rockets want that Minny will be willing to give up? Do they have any draft picks left that they don’t owe to someone else? They aren’t giving us Derrick Williams, so don’t even try it. And no thank you to Darko.

by Mike Kerns on Dec 19, 2011 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I really liked Dragic's play

I liked him last season and thought he was good trade, but he had some crazy moves I didn’t know he had out on the floor tonight

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by TheLastDynasty on Dec 17, 2011 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

Upper limit on his ability:

24 pts in a quarter in a playoff game vs SA.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

at the time

it seemed kinda weird: substitute one of the best point guards and scorers in the league for an unknown draft pick? Hell yeah

by galicae on Dec 18, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

loved Dragic's game

was excited to see the guys Adelman wished into the cornfield get some run. still have no idea how there will be enough minutes to go around, but supremely happy that Brad Miller won’t get any of them.

by thatguyisgood on Dec 17, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Is TWill

The starter on Opening Night?

by DezBryant88 on Dec 17, 2011 10:43 PM CST reply actions  

I think

Bud is better suited coming off the bench for offense

by DezBryant88 on Dec 17, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno, they started to look ok by the 4th.

The question with TWill is – 1st half TWill or 2nd half TWill? If it’s a lot of the latter, he’ll start eventually.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on.

Why not?

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by .Bonzo on Dec 17, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

One Tebow is enough for a lifetime.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

That said - Go Tebow - beat the crap out of the Patriots.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I've come to realize that Tim Tebow is the second coming of Christ according to ESPN

And Bill Belichick is probably the closest thing to the devil, so betting against Tebow is just blasphemous.

Seriously though, this is going to be a game with great ratings, the game itself probably will suck

by NVP on Dec 17, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

In a similar vein

Jimmer goes for 21 on 7-11 shooting.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't think of a Tebow corollary for basketball

You have to be, (1) perplexingly bad, (2) constantly winning, (3) credited with winning, and (4) hold some quality that actually makes you not totally terrible (like Tebow’s abilities to hold onto the ball and run).

It would have to be some “glue guy” who never really contributed anything of value, but I can’t think of one right now.

The thing with “glue guys” in the NBA is that they tend to actually do several things very well.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:37 AM CST up reply actions  

No real comp springs to mind.

I was really referring to Jimmermania and Tebloviating, hmm

Hard to think of an NBA example because running out a bad player in a major position is tough to do for long.

Some of the Phil Jackson PGs are subpar, but no one credits them with much of anything except playing D.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Brian Cardinal

Derrick Fisher or Robert Horry

by focuslja on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

He'll have to have a great 2nd preseason game.

He definitely outplayed Bud tonight, but his inconsistency still shows.

I think he’ll definitely be the backup SF, though.

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by bone31crusher on Dec 17, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Shouldn't there just be an asterisk?
  • indicating this was a Spurs team without their two star players in Parker and Duncan.
    It was a pre-season game, there’s no reason to get excited nor confused or discontent.
    While there’s some aspects that are encouraging to the Rockets, there are other aspects that felt discombobulated

by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 17, 2011 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

Depends on how you evaluate the game.

I was looking towards how they did, not what they did. Execution needs to stay consistent and response to adversity needs to stay the same. You’re thinking I care who they’re playing as an excuse for things. I want to know my guys are in position to work, that they’re addressing their shortcomings and adjusting during a game. So, for traditional short-sighted feedback, you’re 100% right. For skill and attitude evaluations? You get a good glimpse into things.

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by BD34 on Dec 17, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

You’re thinking I care who they’re playing as an excuse for things.

Who’s thinking?

by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 17, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

More than the preseason asterisk?

Would it have been harder for Hill and Thabeet with Duncan in? No question. But I don’t think that anyone here is doing anything other than evaluating the play of guys who got sent to Adelman’s Siberia. We’ve been waiting a long time to see Hill, Thabeet, Williams get some minutes. I liked what I saw.

The core Rockets from last year really looked fine. Scola was dominant, Lowry looked good, Martin looked out of sync, Budinger looked focussed on rebounding (which he does better than people think) and D.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Strongly disagree on Bud.

Looked horrific out there.

Had some good moments, but he made some AWFUL passes, played bad defense most of the time, and didn’t rebound as well as he should.

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by bone31crusher on Dec 17, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a preseason game

so we’re evaluation how the players did, not as much as what and who they did it against, the fact that a year ago Dejuan Blair would have eaten us alive on the rebounding while Jordan Hill, Thabeet and a collection other players was able to keep him off the board was encouraging. considering it’s a short camp, it’s common to see some sloppy plays

by NVP on Dec 17, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Just a random thought

Did the Rockets overall seem looser than last year? I know, one preseason game but McHale seemed to have them smiling and joking. I didn’t see much of that last year.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:17 PM CST reply actions  

I take that 100% as preseason.

Players take preseason a lot less seriously than the regular season. Maybe you’re right though, we’ll find out on the 26th.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 17, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

After the game finished McHale went right up to Hill and slung an arm around his shoulder.

It seemed like they respond to McHale like a friend and a coach as opposed to a disciplinarian. A lot was made of Adelman’s relationship but I don’t think it’s at the same level that McHale is forging. I mean, he comes out and praises his guys particularly and even in practice he ribs em’ and screws around with them during practice.

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by BD34 on Dec 17, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

And yet if the time comes to get serious

the guy was one of the 3 best PF of all time and he can show them his rings. McHale also has a pretty stunning corps of assistants.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

I don’t think how good of a coaching staff he put together has gotten enough pub.

by Mike Kerns on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

It hasn't.

But wow.

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by Xiane on Dec 20, 2011 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I've been thinking about this for a while.

The videos of their practices seem “looser” as well. That could be a lot of things, but McHale’s as good an explanation as any.

The Rockets have hired a guy who seems a lot more like a “player’s coach” than Adelman was. Adelman was liked by some of the guys — Artest certainly comes to mind — but others never seemed to really take to him. His style was very cold, dispassionate, but at the same time he was very demanding.

If you think back, the Rockets had their greatest success with another former big man turned somewhat “player’s-coach-y” head coach.* Under Tomjanovich, players wanted to come to Houston, whether that was complementary guys or guys like Barkley, Francis and (yes) Pippen.

Something to think about, if nothing else.

(*) — I first started thinking about this while trying to explain to someone why the Rockets-Jazz rivalry was the NBA’s second-best, behind only Celtics-Lakers. Think about the Jazz: Stockton was a prick, Malone was a complete and utter asshole as well as statutory rapist, and Sloan was a fucking nazi. The Rockets (especially under Rudy T. after Olajuwon had given up being fighty in favor of being devout) were basically the complete opposite. Olajuwon had become something of a warrior-monk. Drexler was as happy-go-lucky as he is now (there’s a great video on YouTube from the ‘97 playoffs of Barkley calling out an unnamed player — you know it’s Drexler — for this). Even Barkley was just driven and kind of tragic by that point. One of the few instances in sports where it really did come down to good guy/bad guy, as dumb as that seems.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 17, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Rockets-Jazz cont.

I got sidetracked by the Barkley thing.

Anyways, the point was that Tomjanovich was absolutely the opposite of Sloan in basically every single way.

McHale isn’t the opposite of Adelman — that’s not what I’m trying to say. But he does seem more like Tomjanovich than Sloan.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 17, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I see your point and I agree

We’re one game in of course, but I’m optimistic.

People who didn’t follow basketball in the 1990s might not realize just how incredibly evil the Jazz were. I always describe Stockton as the guy who’d cut your knees on a layup at a church league game.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

i was young then so just remember a little of those days, just really cheering when dad cheered, but as i got older always felt this innate reason to hate utah, even when i didnt follow the rockets much

by ja5p on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks a lot for the detailed recap

I missed the game but I think I got good feel for how it went.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Dec 17, 2011 11:43 PM CST reply actions  

Quick question.

Was looking at the Box Score on NBA website and noticed Jeremy Lin was on our roster. When did that happen? Also, isn’t that kind of odd considering how deep we are in the 1 and 2 spot?

by lucnguye92 on Dec 17, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions  

picked him up off of waivers last week

not really that odd, given the need for bodies in training camp

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 17, 2011 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a large PG. Never have too many of those.

Plus he can rap with Morey about the Sloan conference.

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by Xiane on Dec 17, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah...

Makes sense, I’m guessing we won’t be keeping him then? Unless we’re trying to cater to our viewers in China.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 17, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That's entirely possible.

If only 5% of the people in China still follow the Rockets that followed them in Yao’s heyday thats still several times the size of the Houston market.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...

5% of 1,338,299,500 is… 66,914,075. Holy crap that’s a lot.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

You can even say that 20% of China really followed Yao.

And then we get 5% of them now – it’s still like 13 million.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

The population...

of China is about 1.3 billion, the number I gave up there is mathematically 5 percent. I never really watched for Jeremy Lin, I just thought he was just over hyped because of his ethnicity.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I know, I was just pointing out that a fraction of a fraction of China is still immense.

The funny thing is – Lin would likely be the 2nd best PG on NYK.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Who do they have at the 1?

I noticed they have Mike Bibby on their roster.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

They appear to be planning to start Bibby.

And if not starting him, giving him significant minutes.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Dear God on a DAntoni team?

That should be interesting.

As I said, Jeremy Lin might be the 2nd best PG on NYK if he went there.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

It could be utterly hilarious, or they could score a bazillion points anyway.

I’d have someone in China talking to Aaron Brooks right now if I was New York.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

You have to think

that they’ll be the first ones talking to him in March.

There’s just so many problems with how that roster and that team are constructed…

Their only hope, going forward I think, is that Chris Paul in LA totally fails and he signs in NY in 2013. Maybe they can sign Deron Williams, but then you’re going to war with three guys who are definitely all-star quality, but who shouldn’t really be your best guy ever.

Otherwise they’ve got another five years (guaranteed) of a team that is definitely the third-best team in a very weak East, and might be worse depending on how the Dwight situation shakes out.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

If Howard stays in Orlando and they somehow fix that roster

they could be 4th.

Miami is better.
Chicago is better.
Boston looks cooked.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Boston will be done very soon.

Sixers are treading water until the Brand contract is gone, Bobcats are terrible and will remain so until Jordan sells the team and they become the Las Vegas Wanderers, Toronto might as well be in the D-League, Detroit keeps screwing itself with bad contracts that block its own players, I don’t even know what’s up with the Bucks but I suspect they’re doing something dumb, the Wizards are filled with John Wall and a bunch of guys who won’t ever figure it out…

The Hawks have regressed a little but are still just quietly okay, the Nets have pinned their franchise on Dwight destroying his career by heading for Brooklyn, the Cavs won’t be good for years even if they start making good decisions right now, etc.

I mean, you look at the East and you see what is basically a clusterfuck of teams that have screwed themselves utterly by either letting players/bad gms make personnel decisions (Orlando, Cleveland) or by just making terrible decision after terrible decision. Basically, the east is a Bulls/Heat conference for the next five years.

If Dwight knows what’s good for him, he’ll request a trade to the Bulls in March. That would be the very best thing he could possibly do. There aren’t any teams that could offer a package like Chicago could and still remain a top team.

As for the Knicks, I think they’re consigned to mediocrity.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

And could still hit the 4 seed pretty easily.

Look at Indiana and tell me what you think.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Indy looks to be very tough.

Collison, George, Granger, West/Hansbrough, Hibbert

I would very much not like to face them if I were a top Eastern playoff team.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah they could definitely

fuck up an Orlando, New York, or Boston’s season very quickly. Even give Chicago/Miami a run for it.

It’s a good team, and as long as the management is content with putting together a good team rather than a truly outstanding one, they’ll be fine.

And it’s not like you have to be truly outstanding to win a championship, anyways. The right breaks just have to happen.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

You know what?

In this stratified league, in the Eastern Conference, they can do it. Fuck it. 55 wins and the 4th seed. They can make that happen.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, they actually could.

As I have nothing against them, I’d enjoy that. And seeing a favorite East team lose to them in the playoffs.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a little against them

since they’re small-market and so their owner is probably partly responsible for the lockout.

But as an American I think I’m legally obligated to pull for the underdog, so it would be satisfying to see them knock out, say, Orlando.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 1:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I think they're death for Boston, too.

I’m off to sleep – it’s good to have you back around Lad.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I think Indiana looks good. I love George Hill, I think David West immediately becomes secretly the best player on that team, and I think they can grab the 4/5 spot in the Eastern Playoffs if nothing too bad happens.

I just don’t think that means much after this year, though. They’re not young enough for that to mean they’re quietly becoming a powerhouse or anything.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, we've seen what West can do here in Houston.

I think this team just needs to be good. Their fanbase has really suffered for a while, so winning a playoff series probably helps that club immensely.

It’s a better thought out roster than the Knicks.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

oh man the Knicks are going to be interesting this year.

Not like how the Heat were interesting or how the Thunder are interesting, but rather how a very poorly constructed house of cards is interesting.

The backcourt is a total mess. And what’s really so totally wonderful about it all is how the Knicks amnestied Billups to make way for Chandler.

If nobody gets hurt and the backcourt is just good enough, they’ll make the playoffs and be alright. If Melo or Amare goes down for any length of time, and if the guard play is as bad as most think it will be, it will be absolutely glorious in its failure.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

we want them to get a pick somewhere between #6 and #14. It’s protected from #1-5.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Yea, it could all work out in a strangely wonderful ironic way.

I still think they make the playoffs in the East pretty easily though. But if get injuries, and if Carmelo and Amare can’t get along who knows?

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

How strangely optimistic for us.

Also, of course subpar teams in the East will make the playoffs it’s the way it’s always been.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Some East teams are improved.

Indiana for example.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we only officially have 13 players on guaranteed contracts right now

We might keep him, we might sign someone, who knows. Morris and Parson are also eligible to be send down to the D-league to destroy

by NVP on Dec 18, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe

Was it something to do with the gasol tade, and morey wanted to sure up the pg spot, cause we were possibly going to lose Dragic. He seems like a solid player so its not very big of a risk

by zwilko360 on Dec 18, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Big game for the frontcourt

We saw the ups and downs of TWill, and the shooting was off tonight. I’m interested to see how the team plays Wednesday.

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 17, 2011 11:56 PM CST reply actions  

Overlooked:

Dragic fouled out.

That’s been a concern of mine ever since we traded for him last year. It’s one reason why I prefer Flynn to him. He consistently fouls a lot.

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My point is that he did this last year as well...

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by bone31crusher on Dec 18, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a concern for starter

Backups can usually play more recklessly with the fouls

but it’s a sloppy game, Lee had 4 fouls in the first half

by NVP on Dec 18, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Seems like every preseason game was the same

with tons of fouls called. Blowing their whistle anytime they had a chance. I wouldn’t worry too much. He’s way ahead of Flynn in my opinion.

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 18, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

There was a simply shocking number of whistles on us for nothing in particular.

I’m putting it on preseason refs.

Scola had 4 in 20 minutes.
Lee had 5 in 25.
Morris had 5 in 25.
Etc, etc.

Same old shit as ever playing the Spurs I guess…

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

the last bit was a joke, sort of

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not really a joke

It happens every game against the Spurs

by DezBryant88 on Dec 18, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

36 Pf called on Rockets, 24 on Spurs

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

we're trying to play defense

heard that on 80% of our practices so far, McHale has stressed defensive coverages more than the offense

by RoxBeliever on Dec 18, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what the Chronicle was saying.

I said this in the game thread, but having him bitch out the refs about the rules wasn’t very reassuring.

by Only_A_Lad on Dec 18, 2011 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he was really bitching.

You’re allowed an elbow/forearm on a guy, you’re not allowed to extend your hand. He was pointing that out. Adelman used to cry at the refs quite a bit when he woke up off the bench, no one ever gave him shit for it.

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by BD34 on Dec 18, 2011 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

People just want this guy to fail

because of his past coaching resume.

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by A.J. G on Dec 18, 2011 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Not even that.

It was his GM history that was bad, and still then, he trained up Kevin Love.

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by BD34 on Dec 18, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

to me the guy seems really relaxed. I think who he was with the Celtics plays into this situation alot. I remember when asked about McHale during his media day interview T-Will stated it was good to have info coming from a guy whose been in their shoes. I watched McHale close on the sidelines last night when the camera would cut near him and his body language. He was always up and talking to his players. I watched him mouth “we’re alright” several times towards the young guys in the second half. He seems to have his expectations, but they aren’t tempered by a self-serving legacy of wins or some other nonsense. To me, he genuinely wants his guys to give his all and understands the mistakes are able to be reparied and worked on, and if they can’t change it’s his job to gameplan on the strengths of his personnel available. Just my thoughts.

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by A.J. G on Dec 18, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he's just what we needed.

A guy who loves the energy the young guys bring, a guy who can mold them with their enthusiasm. I agree 100% with you. I can’t wait to see what McHale does with our guys.

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by BD34 on Dec 18, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I can see he has already had an impact on our bigs

I really feel like the progression of our bigs, led by Luis Scola, will be the key to our success.

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by batman713 on Dec 18, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe he’ll also bring more time on inside the nba since he knows those guys, would be nice to see more national commentary on them

by ja5p on Dec 19, 2011 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

scary thought

Jordan Hill is the most important player on the roster right now. Also, is Twill, Hill, and Thabeet play like they did tonight and Martin, Lowry, and Scola don’t regress, we’re a top 6 team out west and 2nd/3rd in our division.

by Christopher Dion Harris on Dec 18, 2011 12:08 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

It's possible.

I think this schedule will strongly favor teams that can roll with two complete units. Add that to the overall youth of the Rockets and there’s reason to be positive about results.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm worried about that 3 spot more than the Center spot.

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by .Bonzo on Dec 18, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

This Greg Smith kid is very interesting, btw.

Surprising non-drafted guy – real center type. Needs work, but really could be worthwhile.

I’m not too worried about SF. I see that there are several options, including TWill and Bud and Morris, and also this Blakely kid and against smaller SF, you can run Lee there some (with Dragic sliding to 2 guard behind Martin).

This roster is very flexible, and if McHale is committed to using it, it should be ok.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if Blakely can stay on roster

with all our current options at 3, he is very very athletic with very long arms, wing span is 7 foot I believe. really dominated D-league last year.

Greg Smith’s career I think was plague by some poor decisions, He is a physical specimen, maybe not a high leaper, but has a wide body and the size. He left school despite having an unimpressive year at a mid-major school and enter a draft full of possible role players and high risk upside centers late round, and after that he chose to play in the Mexican league where the competition level perhaps arent as high as the euroleague

by NVP on Dec 18, 2011 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

And here he is, playing some good minutes for the Rockets.

This is one of the things I just love about this organization. This kid, if everything breaks, is an NBA player, maybe a starter. Essentially for free. If not, it’s not like you just blew your draft.

He’s physically a legit center and he’s young enough to spend some time in the D League and then come up and help later in the season. Or earlier if he’s C #3.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I think both are points of concern

due to uncertainty, Center is up to the young guys developing and whether or not we signing a stop gap guy. SF dependent who will mesh into the starter unit an provide the element needed, I think we have sufficient depth at 3 with Budinger, WIlliams, Morris and Parson, not so much at the 4 spot though

by NVP on Dec 18, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

As optimistic as I can be

Even if we do make it to the playoffs, I’m afraid our inexperience will do us in. We only have a handful of players who have played in it, let alone even get past the first round.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know.

I do enjoy the team, I’ve been a major supporter of Thabeet and J.Hill and I’m loving the production. I’m just thinking ahead and being as pessimistic as I possibly can so I don’t get my hopes up, that way I can be presently surprised if we do pull something off.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm proud of you, BD.

I expected many more Martin pot shots and self righteous Thabert comments.

But in all seriousness, I agree with your assessment. At this late hour of the night, I’m not really in a state to go point by point but essentially yes to most things you wrote. Time to collapse in my bed…

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by Patrick Harrel on Dec 18, 2011 12:19 AM CST reply actions  

I have this strange ability.

I can still be a self-serving ass but still be impartial.

by BD34 on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

3 days.. Damn that's a while.

That’s one thing I like about this year’s seasons less days off.

by OJ ATM on Dec 18, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

It's good - time to study some actual game tape and practice.

Because then the season starts…

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm, yes, hadn't thought of it that way.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

And we're getting 66 games in roughly 120 days

still taking time off for All Star weekend as well.

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by Xiane on Dec 18, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Blink

and you’ll miss the playoffs.

by lucnguye92 on Dec 18, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

damn it

I really miss the days when we had t-mac and yao in the staring lineup.. :‘(:’(:’(

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so many anal'sis on a pre-season game ! lets extend our sampling size a bit.

20 TO that tells you how much underdone these guys are.

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by craigj007 on Dec 18, 2011 4:07 AM CST reply actions  

20 turnovers

and we still win in a blowout. We must be doing something right.

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by batman713 on Dec 18, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I was shocked by the result but

some of the stuff like Martin looks like he doesn’t fit anymore and bud’s departure? sounds like espn’s insider. If Hill can keep that effort up we will be OK.

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by craigj007 on Dec 18, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same about Martin

But then again we have to remember this is preseason and a lot of guys are still trying to find their rhythm (which is the point of preseason). I really enjoyed watching the younger guys play, however. Everyone played with energy and competed on defense. Looks to be a fun season to watch.

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by batman713 on Dec 18, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Great write up BD

I really enjoyed seeing the improvement of Hill. DM alluded to him being a bright spot in camp. Also, you can plainly see by the statistics of when Thabeet and Hill were in together, the Spurs couldn’t get anything in the paint. Not all centers are going to score 15-20 a game. In fact, most won’t. I really like how they seem to both be working hard, which goes a long way towards rooting for them, even by the most staunch opponent.

I absolutely love Dragic’s game. Not just his play, but his running the offense, which most people miss on. The play when Blair got around Hill and stole the ball, Goran looked at Hill and let him know he needs to keep him behind him. Plus, the guy is all hustle. As far as his fouls, he is a back-up who knew the final score is not what mattered in this game. Also, the refs were ticky tack with fouls in all the games I watched thus far.

T-Will is an enigma as we all know. I am not anti- or pro-. I view him with a large amount of reserved optimism. I do like how when DM was sitting there he kept commenting on how T-Will needed to go to the hoop more and that’s what they wanted out of him. That is his game. He has such a quick step. Use what you’re good at and learn the rest as you go through hard work in offseasons and practices. Lowry didn’t start making good outside shots until last year. He just needs coaches to help him shed this fragile ego issue, maybe a sports psychologist. Also, DM said T-Will was the second best athlete on the team behind blakely I think. That’s crazy.

All other players played how I thought they would. I like Flynn, but like Dragic more. Depends on the final offense style and who fits in better as to who I’d rather see as the #2.

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by A.J. G on Dec 18, 2011 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

I thought flynn looked more in control and the offense looked smoother with him in there. Still gotta see more from Bud.

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I dunno. I liked Dragic more than Flynn.

by VBG on Dec 18, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Point Guards

I like all three point guards on our team. Obviously Lowry makes the team, but my question is do Flynn and Dragic both make it or just one? And if so, which one?

by hollywood917 on Dec 18, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

My guess is both make the team

but if it’s one, it’s Dragic. He pushes the ball and attacks, something Flynn needs to do more of.

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 18, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Dragic played the flex 2 as a back up as well last night.

I don’t think either of them has to go. Lin most likely doesn’t make it, Flynn takes the back up 1 spot, Dragic backs up 1 and 2. Flynn needs to kick some second guessing but beyond that I have nothing but faith in him.

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by BD34 on Dec 18, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Teams keeping three

Simply because Lowry unfortunately gets a minor injury that keeps him out a week or two each yr,and the Rockets collapse like a punctured balloon each time it happens. They’ll keep three for that reason.(Now it may not be both Flynn and Dragic,one might be traded and someone like Linn will be stashed in D-League,but they will keep 3.)

by Tisbee on Dec 18, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't want to read/comment until I got a chance to watch the game

After viewing, I’m pretty much in agreement with all of BD’s assessments. Hill impressed me, Thabeet looked like a serviceable backup and T-Will surprised. I really liked when both Lowry & Dragic were on the floor together. Scola looks as consistent as always and I’m happy to see him still in a Rockets uniform.

The reason I was originally in support of the McHale hiring was because I thought he was the perfect guy to work with our big man reclamation projects. Hill looks night and day different from last year when he was set up to fail.

Even if Thabeet didn’t show up on the stat sheet as much as some would have liked, his presence in the middle and the oppositions decision to settle for jumpers as undeniable. I like where this is going and I think I’m okay with not signing Dalembert now unless he is willing to do a 1 year low ball deal, which I don’t see happening.

Good write up, BD.

by Mike Kerns on Dec 19, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Agree on everthing except on Thabeet

Trust me, I want Thabeet to work out. I’ve been a Free Thabeet guy, but I was dissapointed seeing him play. When he came in during the first half I had hope. Although he was clumsy he was still productive doing things that dont show up on the stat sheet.

Second half was another story. He looked lazy, didnt seem like he was putting 100%…not even 50%. I know its pre-season but he needs to prove himself. He was slow running back, getting out hustled on rebounds, and somehow always ending up on the floor.

I know this is only one game, and its a preseason game. I look forward to hopefully see him develop and get better. Hopefully he is willing to learn, get better, and give it 110%.

by Texas08 on Dec 19, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you're parsing from the game what you want to fit with popular views.

In the second half Thabeet was disrupting rebounds with his lanky arms when he couldn’t get his hand on the ball, had some bad passes lobbed his way, and at 7’3" you’ll always look slow running but he was consistently with his man. He was hitting the floor chasing after the ball, which I’ll take every day, Jordan Hill was on the floor for loose balls too, needs to happen. Thabeet altered courses of shots and kept the middle clear, which is exactly what we’ve needed for quite some time.

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All that said

Thabeet needs to keep his hands in the air on D. Pretty much all the time.

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by Xiane on Dec 20, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

McHale said it best

Thabeet hit the wall. He just needs more time and better conditioning. He’ll be fine

by twinkilling0303 on Dec 19, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

First things first

I saw maybe five minutes total of this game, so thanks a lot for this. In a preseason game, this is exactly how I watch the games, too. Mental notes about each player, overall idea of what the offense and defense will look like. So this was awesome BD.

In the five minutes I saw, K-Mart was the story. And by story, I mean a horror story. On one possession, he forced up a bad shot. On the next possession, he tried to stare his defender into submission, and on the third he tried a drive and kick that resulted in a fast break layup for the Spurs. I don’t think I’ve ever cringed so much while watching him. For over a year we’ve seen him work seamlessly in the offense. At times, he just effortlessly collected 25 points and it was normal. Martin may not fit in this new scheme, but is there a more consistent shooter on the team? I’m sure the Rockets are trying to trade him, but it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to have a guy on your team who gets to the foul line and shoots almost 40% from three.

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by ak2themax on Dec 19, 2011 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the praise man.

With Kevin, I feel like with a systemic change he’s going to have some major problems.

by BD34 on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Martin is without a doubt the most consistent shooter from range on the Rockets.

Who else is actually a shooter on this team? Dragic has range, but he’s really streaky. Lowry has improved greatly but shooting isn’t his game. Budinger had a bad year shooting the 3. Lee can hit the three, but he’s not really a shooter.

Scola is a good short-mid range shooter, as is Patterson.

Who’s left? Flynn? I have no idea. Parsons? Again, who knows? Morris is supposed to have range, but we’ll have to see.

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by Xiane on Dec 20, 2011 1:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Definitely.

Stick to slashing, creating. That air ball on the 3 pointer showed me all I needed to see on his outside shot.

by Mike Kerns on Dec 20, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

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