Report: Rockets In Talks To Land Lakers' Gasol
by Tom Martin on Dec 8, 2011 1:51 PM CST
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If you can't get one Gasol, why not go for the other?
The Houston Rockets have reportedly entered into talks with the Los Angeles Lakers and the New Orleans Hornets in a bid to swing a three-way deal that would land Houston center Pau Gasol and send Chris Paul to Hollywood. It's only a possibility among hundreds of other possibilities, but holy jumping Jesus Christ, if Houston pulls this off without trading Kevin Martin or Kyle Lowry, I do declare this a winner by all accounts.
The news comes straight from Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix:
Piggybacking off @sam_amick tweet, Lakers/Rockets/Hornets discussing a deal that would send CP3 to LA, Pau to Houston ... Rockets, sources say, were hot after Nene. Rival execs believe he is headed back to Denver at a max or close to max deal. Houston sees Gasol as the next best option.
By referring to Gasol as Houston's "next best option," I believe Mannix means Houston sees a trade as a backup plan to outright signing a free agent. Gasol is clearly the better player of the two, but if Houston lands Nene, they get a good center without giving up any talent. Gasol will give Houston the star center they've been missing, but he'll come for a price that shouldn't be short of steep.
The Rockets do have a number of draft picks they can swing, plus some trade exceptions and some good young talent. I'd LOVE to see a Gasol/Scola frontcourt, but my guess is that if this deal gets done, we kiss Scola goodbye.
My question, for now: Can Houston land Gasol at a price befitting to New Orleans? After all, they're giving up Paul, and unless Los Angeles throws Lamar Odom in their direction, the brunt of the returns may come from Houston. Trading Scola and draft picks alone shouldn't be a viable option for New Orleans, lest they find themselves with horrible options otherwise.
More to come as it emerges. Keep in mind: Gasol is on the books for four more years. That's a nice contrast to a one-year CP3 rental plan.
Update: How much do you want Gasol?
From Marc Spears:
Names talked about in CP3 3-way are: CP to Lakers, Gasol to HOU & Kevin Martin & Luis Scola and possible picks to Hornets, source tells Y!
Folks, you've got to give a lot to get a lot. Losing Martin and Scola together would hurt considerably, but consider these four thoughts should this actually happen:
1) Houston would be trading its two oldest players, believe it or not.
2) The Rockets are stacked with power forwards, both here (Patterson, Hill) and overseas (Motiejunas).
3) Guards and power forwards are easier to find than legitimate centers. Look at this year's upcoming draft. They're everywhere. If Houston can hold on to one of its picks, they'll be in the running for some good players.
4) Houston still has plenty of money to spend to replace Martin at shooting guard, and in the meantime, Courtney Lee isn't a terrible option.
Update 2: The buck doesn't stop with Gasol.
From Spears:
If the Rockets land Gasol in 3-way trade, expect them to make a strong run at Nuggets free agent center Nene.
Oh, come on. That's pretty exciting stuff, you guys.
For those griping: This isn't a one-year plan. We're still young, and oh by the way, there's a chance both Donatas Motiejunas and Sergio Llull could come help win next year, not to mention how wide-open Houston's 2012 free agency options will be. Think long-term, even while signing old guys. We're not getting older with this deal. We're actually about the same.
Final Update From Tom Because He's Busy Now:
From Jonathan Feigen's Twitter:
Hou-LA-NO 3-tm deal for Pau "nowhere near done, nowhere near," source said. A lot could change, including other tms (Boston) getting in.
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I think you can be confident you can keep him
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
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You think Chris Paul would be so dumb as to give up playing with Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum?
Especially since Bynum is a “fair” swap for Howard if other parts are tossed in? Add in Kevin Martin and Luis Scola from Houston and LA looks like another f*cking dynasty.
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And he wants to play with Dwight Howard, and Kobe Bryant, and he just wants a superteam.
A superteam in a big market. LA’s market is comparable to NYC. NYC is a million times better than LA, but still, he’d be a moron to turn down LA and LA is on his list of teams.
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I don't see how that's relevant at all.
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and best buds with Chandler too
how much more, in dollars, is Chandler getting in free-agency, because Chris Paul has said that he wants to play with him?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Lakers would get CP3, KMart, and Scola?
I’m assuming those guys would go to the Hornets.
Melo, Amare, Chandler isn’t a bad foundation for CP3 to go to either.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Scola and Martin would go to NO.
In this scenario.
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Looks like Scola, K-Mart and picks
Names talked about in CP3 3-way are: CP to Lakers, Gasol to HOU & Kevin Martin & Luis Scola and possible picks to Hornets, source tells Y!
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
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Just about to post this
If it’s Scola and Martin, don’t like this at all.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I think this is what BD34 was talking about the other day.
But I don’t like the Martin part. Especially after I bought his jersey last year
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I hate that
it’s happened to me a few times. Or you get a Felix Jones jersey, and he’s terrible, so now I have to get a DeMarco Murray one.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Just going to have to go back to wearing my Hakeem throwback
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I need a Hakeem jersey
but the throwbacks are so expensive. Maybe I should ask Santa
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Thats why
you should put your name on the back. You’re less likely to switch teams
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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 8, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
why would Hornets want Rockets oldest players?
I wonder if this has anything to do with reports about Chandler likely signing with the Knicks, who can sign him if they amnesty Billups. If CP3s buddy, Chandler goes to the Knicks, perhaps just about nobody becomes confident of signing him long term.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
A Espn article is
Saying they’d be willing to trade Amare to No is they managed to land Cp3.
by Dmo_Htx on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why are we facilitating a trade for the largely asset-less hornets unless it goes our way?
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Just why would we be giving up so much?
Gasol is an excellent player, but he’s 31, he’s on the books for 4 years at a massive amount. We’re the ones giving up a lot to make NO and LA’s life easier?
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by Xiane on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
hate this...
If we end up losing Patterson, Lowry, or Martin this deal is horrible. Take Scola, Hill, Budinger, and one of our backup points. A Lowry, Martin, Williams (or Morris), Patterson, Gasol lineup is not bad at all… Not great defensively, but not bad.
by Christopher Dion Harris on Dec 8, 2011 2:02 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Scola, Lowery, and T-will plus picks
works on the trade machine. I doubt they want Martin’s contract.
But at the same time is helping LA worth
no one going to a NO game all year?
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
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You are correct sir.
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reports say
if we get pau rest assured we going after Nene too.
by southpaw70 on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
why do people keep suggesting Nene???!!!
Maybe if we stop talking about getting Nene, it won’t happen.
Please NO TO NENE!!!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
please ignore all such reports
never never ever mention or even suggest Nene in a Rockets uniform again. He is not worth the max contract it will take to get him…. although his toughness complements Pau’s skills in a crazy-athletic/long front-court. No! No! I did not say that. I am cutting out my tongue.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
ah mleh, meh, meh, mleh meh! (translated: a frontcourt made for the playoffs!)
I’m not a huge fan of Nene, but I have to admit, a Nene/Pau pairing is intriguing. What a huge front-court—tough to match up against, especially for the playoffs (ala Marc Gasol and Z-Bo).
The biggest problem I have, however, is the fact that Nene will cost something approaching a max salary. Nene and Pau Gasol are both 7-foot-like center-like playing substances, but when I imagined 2 max-salary stars for the Rockets, this wasn’t what i was thinking.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be more inclined to want Dalembert than Nene if Gasol is landed.
But the Rockets decisions are theirs, eh? Dalembert sets up a twin towers of defense if we can get Pau.
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Yes.
That would work well.
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Im 50/50 on this deal.
I don’t think pau is worth that much but then again all stars attract all stars. He can be soft be he has loads of talent.
by Dmo_Htx on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The softness seems to more in the past.
I wouldn’t call him a tough player, but he’s not like he was.
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Seeing it in writing
makes me feel worst about it
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
not to mention the dwindling likeability factor
First Chuckwagon. Now Scola. For Pau and Nene or Dalembert. Blah!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
More likely to be
Lowry, Lee, Bud/Morris, Pau, Dalembert
If Twill comes along and can defend SF, that team is REALLY hard to score on. Really tough.
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Worth a consideration.
If we can pull this off by trading Scola and Martin I’m feeling good about our chances to be that second tier of contender in the West. What would make me feel like we’d be a first tier? Picking up Richard Jefferson for the starting SF considering San Antonio amnestied his ass.
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worth a consideration.. but Pau is getting up there in years
Does he give the Rockets a chance of winning a championship in the next couple years?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
If we land a Nene or Dalembert? Yes.
If we get a Nene, Dalembert, and Richard Jefferson? Definitely. Keep in mind people here stick by Scola when Pau plays a similar offensive game but with defense about 20 leagues ahead of Scola, championship pedigree, and has been a franchise cornerstone in Memphis and even in LA to an extent. Scola has, and always will be, viewed as a complementary player.
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Oh yeah
If you get Gasol for Scola, you’d be dumb not to make that trade. I’m a lot more iffy on Speed Racer with Scola for Gasol though. Unless we were assured to get a SG or a SF that doesn’t suck/isn’t old (ie not Jefferson)
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I think that's where the amnesty wires come in handy.
But I think a cheap Jefferson plus a guy like Nene or Dalembert, or hell, even Biedrins, would do a lot of good for this club.
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I'm on the record as loving Biedrins
I think he just needed out of the shadow of Don Nelson and have someone believe in him.
And if we got Jefferson for 2 mill a year, then maybe
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I'd be down for that.
Especially since San Antonio is paying the difference or something like that. Win win all around, no?
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I think Jefferson paying us $2 million a year to play here is an excellent idea.
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What about the 2 first round picks in a strong draft?
It’s gotta be at least one first rounder… I hope it’s not both.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Scola, Martin and picks
for Gasol…I just can’t get behind it.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
I don't wanna lose Martin
Not for Gasol
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by Antho10000 on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ken Berger on twitter just now
“Sources confirm the players who’d go to NOR in Lakers-Houston-Hornets 3-way that would land CP3 with LAL are Luis Scola and Kevin Martin.”
That's the salary dump to keep us in the running for a center.
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I was just going to say, that's a legit salary dump of about 4 mil or so isn't it?
Which would mean trade wise we’re looking at around a 150% traded salary matching?
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Gasol is like 18 million - Martin is 12 I think and Scola 8
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Thought Scola was tapering towards 9 this season.
Then again I was running theoretical numbers while taking a whizz, had Gasol around 17 and Martin/Scola at 21 total.
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Think you're right - it goes up.
Next year has an opt out, I think.
This isn’t that crazy – NBA prepping the team to be sold next year.
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But you get that opt out for Scola.
And God knows the two of them can put up points.
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And give them up just as quickly.
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It is going to take me a long time
to get over losing Martin. I know it’s not rational, and maybe the team is for the better…but I can’t justify it right now. For Pau Gasol, and the possibility of getting Nene/Dalembert.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
I totally can.
Lee is a two way SG ready to step into a starter’s spot, Gasol is a legitimate PF to build with your team around, and we need a starting Center unless you want to do it with Thabeet. Totally workable.
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I don't think Lee is near Martin
but I understand the argument, it’s a legit one. But Gasol is 31, to build around him is just hard to wrap my head around. This totally came out of left field, maybe I just need to shut up and think about it for a few days.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think Gasol would start at center.
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by bone31crusher on Dec 8, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Not if we can get another C, Pau operates better at the 4.
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I'm the same way dude
I thought Martin could get us a bigger name but I guess this works.
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Bigger than Pau Gasol?
Who were you thinking?
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Obviously
He thought we should be getting Dwight Howard for Martin
In other news - Battier to Miami
Which makes a lot of sense if you’re Shane Battier – makes Miami a much tougher out, which is scary.
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HELL NO to that!!!!
I rather have Dalembert, Scola, Morris, Martin and Lowry (with a really strong bench)
than Gasol, Patterson, Morris, Courtney Lee, Lowry (with a weak bench)
Why don't they want Jonny Flynn?
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by Xiane on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why did we want him?
"Boxing is like dealing with a ho"
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I'm not sure.
But someone should want him.
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Well... "Like" is a strong word, but I'm, uh... curious.
If Dragic is part of the trade, I’d like to see how Flynn develops in a non-triangle offense. This could be the chance he needs. Morey has a pretty good record with trading backup PGs.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
If we can pair
Gasol with either Dalembert, Nene, or Jordan that’s a very good front court. Trading Martin should also open up time for T Will at the 2.
Thank God TWill gets a chance to try for the turnover rate record.
I kid.
Sort of.
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I'd be ecstatic if we get Gasol for Martin and Scola.
Two players I really want to get rid of.
Patterson would finally start, and C-Lee is definitely a starting SG in this league. More two-way players with this lineup:
PG – Lowry
SG – Lee
SF – Morris (I really think Morris is going to overtake Bud during camp and preseason)
PF – Patterson
C – Gasol
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Here's a better lineup
PG – Lowry, Dragic
SG – Lee, TWill
SF – Morris, Bud
PF – Gasol, Patterson
C – Nene
Doubt we get Nene.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we did, though. That’s how Morey works.
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by bone31crusher on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
From what I'm hearing
If we get Gasol, Morey wants to go all in and go for Nene as well
Dalembert
Would be an interesting option at Center as well. Having two 7 footers would be really nice.
this is even better
Pau is more of a PF than C
i like this starting lineup
very poor 3pt shooting team on paper but definitely a better all around team.
i agree, Morris is gonna be pretty good i think and i like Bud coming off the bench as an instant-offense sort of guy
Bud and Lee work well together
Rotate Morris and Bud often and you get that 3pt shooter when needed. When Bud is hot, he is on fire, but when he is cold, he is ice cold. The guy has hops and if he can be aggressive like he was at the end of the season, he can pick up some of those fouls +1.
I like watching Martin, but his D blows. Scola is great to watch, but slow to get up the court and his D blows too.
I wouldn’t mind Lee starting, but Rox need to get a shot blocker center.
That would be interesting.
Can the salaries work?
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It would be a wet dream for me.
Okafor and Gasol to Houston but how do you force the salaries to match? Worse so when you consider we should be making a run at Richard Jefferson (Yes, that is my pet project for the next two weeks).
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Please no Richard Jefferson.
Can we just stipulate you make a fine argument for Richard Jefferson that I’ll never accept because he’s never, ever, been as good as his rep?
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He's better
That who we have right now though at the 3
Bud isn't going to get better
TWill has the potential but only potential so I would take my chances with Jefferson
He's not?
He’s improved year to year so far, and he’s not old.
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Realistically
How much better will he get. He’s better coming off the bench than starting.
Nobody knows how much anyone will improve.
But most of the things he lacks fall into things that can be improved.
He’ll never be a perfect SF, but how many of those are there?
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Houston is better off
rolling the dice on a timeshare between Morris and Bud at SF than bringing in Jefferson.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
And yet, misery follows wherever he goes.
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He is a proven commodity and turned it on at times for the Spurs last season.
Not his fault he got overpaid but you’re out of your mind if you don’t think he’s better than what we have at SF now.
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Plus
its not like he would be demanding a max deal. He can still play, but not max deal money. I think he would be a serviceable spot filler for a while
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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Even better, he's still paid his contract by San Antonio (Depending on the offer from Houston)
So he’d come at a discount, which I find even sexier.
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I think my beef with all of this is
I don’t see the team with Gasol and all the others people are mentioning here, as a championship caliber team. A good chance to win a first round series at best. These players have huge contracts, and for a long time. Players like Pau, Nene/Dalembert, I want to have the peace of mind to think they could get out of those contracts if it doesn’t work out. So it’s more of a money/length thing to me. Somebody talk me off the ledge lol
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
There's a few things that must be considered.
When I get hopeful I am operating on these assumptions:
1.) Lowry continues his improvement (Which I fully believe he will).
2.) The team will have more two way players, reducing the frustrating large runs we give up and the bloated scores.
3.) A defensive focus keeping opposing teams out of the paint and off the line.
4.) Star appeal is beneficial for the Rockets to attract free agents, which Gasol offers.
5.) This team needs defensive bigs, Gasol and Dalembert would do it, Nene, not so much, but I guess if you can have him you replace some of the offense you lost with Martin that Gasol didn’t account for.
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I like everything your saying
except for 4. I don’t think Gasol attracts “new age” players. They want to play with guys they came up with, that will be around as long as them. Does that make sense?
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
It does but I think having a guy like Gasol here with a decent team around him
does much more than we can right now, no?
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True
Losing Martin in all of this…I just think it kills the deal for me. In a perfect world I’d rather have Gasol to team up with Martin. Trading picks has me on the fence as well, how many are we giving up? I would like to think the Rockets have a chance to get a replacement wing player in the draft.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe Pau Gasol brings his brother!!!
Would there be a better buddy-buddy pair than that? Now that would be an absolute coup by Morey!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Even Morey can't turn the Rockets into a contender with one broad stroke
It’s one move. As long as the next move is not a max contract for Nene, I’m very curious to see what the next move will be, whether this season or next.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
In internetese - Do Not Want.
He’s the JR Smith of overated SF. Defense slipping, can’t hit an open shot, makes a 30 mile radius around him miserable and sickly. Cruel to kittens.
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What are chances Josh Smith gets cut?
Lowry, Lee, Josh Smith, Patterson, Pau… now that, i can get excited about!
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Could be a good
Back up plan if we dont get Nene or Dalembert
Would LOVE to get Okafor.
PERFECT center to compliment Gasol.
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by bone31crusher on Dec 8, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
And that's the only way that giving up Martin too makes sense
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no gasol
i read an article saying that the rockets would either be landing bynum or gasol in the deal. and that made me thing that we may be better of with bynum. gasol is already 31 and probably going downhill but bynum is still young BUT he injury prone would we want to go trough that again!? id probably take bynum because when he is healty he’s very good. so take a chance on his health
No
Gasol is an established super star and Bynum is just injury prone with potential
Horrible idea.
Scola is 31 but this board thinks he has a long career in front of him, why hold that from Gasol? Are we that afraid of talent here?
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yes!
Why else wouldn’t we play Jared Jeffries
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jeffries is franchise.
No clue what you’re talking about.
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Seriously the idiots on here these days...
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by Patrick Harrel on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I miss our game threads where we talk him up.
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Bynum = Injury Machine
Do we want another Yao???
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If we can stay away from Yao injuries 2.0
That would be great…
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I say we wait til the trade deadline
And try to swing a deal for Danny Granger or Andre Igoudala
Fantastic
only 1.25 billion less fans.
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i'm in
Don’t really care to pursue nene though.
by HTown80 on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
So he should just be a Rocket right? Fuck bigger markets
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Jonny Flynn?
Say it’s Jonny Flynn.
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No, he shouldn't.
Because Paul would be a Rocket for a year and run off unless it’s just Williams or Johnny Flynn, like Xiane says.
My beingadick-butnotbeinganannoyingdick skills, they're impressive.
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Yea I was being sarcastic
This entire Paul to LA thing seems rigged up to me
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Wow
Knicks are about to give Tyson Chandler a 4 year, 58 $ million deal
I like that Morey is still workin the phones
But Im not going to get too excited about anything until its a done deal. We’ve heard the Rockets brought up in trade/FA talks for awhile now. Im ready for something to happen, but Ill believe it when I see it
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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 8, 2011 2:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This one seems to have some momentum, so I'd assume there's some fire with the smoke. But these things are tricky and rarely happen.
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Admittedly I'm hesitant of most 3-ways because it changes the relationship with your partner...
But the fact that a few days after TDS types up a huge rant of “shit or get off the pot” with thousands of views some fire gets under a trade rumor, that’s right, I’M TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS SHIT!
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And if it fails, you must die.
Sorry, but that’s how it goes.
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Old Yeller style or do I at least get a chance?
I’m talking broadswords highlander style.
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Son of a bitch...
You’re on.
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only rule
Nobody says “you brought a sword to a gunfight”
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What, your left hand isn't talking to you now?
OOOHHHH, its a deep burn.
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To be honest, the picks are what i dont want to lose the most.
by Dmo_Htx on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Do the Deal
I like Martin and Luv Scola but a PF like Pau are hard to come by. If coupled with a legit center like Nene, i think we would have one of better front courts in the league and can go shopping for a SG through FA.
If we think of playing Pau as our center though… that won’t work.
We have a 2 in Lee
Prob could add one but most likely will look to add a 3 for cheap money
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Lee
i dunno, i like Lee alot but not sure if he is a starter.
Given the state of SG in the NBA, he's definitely starter caliber.
In 1995? Maybe not.
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I feel bad for Lowry if this happens
he’s probably going to lose Hayes, Martin and Scola in a matter of hours. These are guys he wanted around and loved to play with.
Hopefully this gets done
As long as we have a center coming as well. Losing our two biggest defensive crutches should help things. Martins efficiency will be missed but Lee stepping in will be great.
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
what about josh Howard?
He apparently wants to follow Nene. Honestly know nothing about the guy
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yep that guy
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Chris Mannix will be on Sports Radio 610 @ 3:15 central
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GTFO Boston
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From David Aldridge - Dragic in deal as well
“We know Lakers would get CP3. We know Gasol would go to HOU. And NOH? Source: Scola, Martin, Dragic, 1st/2nd round picks. But not done deal.”
We do have flynn
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
NOOOOOO! Not the Dragon!
He was an awesome compliment to Lowry!
Righty Power, then Lefty Crazy.
I was cool with just Scola and Martin, some picks.
But not the Dragon!
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
I would be fine with that
Johnny Flynn isn’t horrible
he was in the triangle!
let’s withhold judgement on a young PG till he plays in an offense other than the triangle.
PGs take time to develop. look how good the two previous not-great-backup-PGs Morey traded for turned out?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Id like to know everyone involved
Cause thats 3 players and picks for Pau and who else?
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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 8, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
kind of wish we can sell them Flynn instead
I like having tall pointguard backing up Kyle Lowry, simply for the change in style and the defensive advantage
by NVP on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's not just the size difference.
Dragon is also a lefty!
Please, don’t trade Dragon too!
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, what?
We have to throw in two starting level players, a good back up PG with potential and two freaking picks? For a 31 yr old PF with a 18 million contract?
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by Xiane on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
..
@Jonathan_Feigen Jonathan Feigen
Hou-LA-NO 3-tm deal for Pau “nowhere near done, nowhere near,” source said. A lot could change, including other tms (Boston) getting in.
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One more update at the top, folks.
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You make a great point with Monte and Sergio, along with the youth
This is all very exciting though. It’s just the loss of Martin…I’ll get over it
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
I have a feeling
New Orleans just deals with Boston. That’s a better deal for them.
I agree it's a better deal
me and my brother were just talking about that. I don’t know why the Hornets would choose this deal over the Celtics deal.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Better question is
Why in the hell would Boston make this deal? It makes no sense. Other than they were dumb and burned their bridge with Rondo
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That might be enough.
Also, you can give Paul the ball in the last 5 minutes of a game. That’s important – and he can break down the Heat.
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I'm pretty sure KG is going to die on the court this year though
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by UofTOrange on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He might
that’s why they should sign a PF for the exception. Carl Landry, for example.
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Don't they have to get Green to agree though
Is that a done deal? I wouldn’t do it if I were him. (he’s a RFA, right?)
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This has nothing do with CP3
He has no choice where he goes
Why not? The window of them competing for a title is 2 years at the very outside.
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Its a rebuild in one or two years no matter what.
Peirce, Allen, KG – they’re all right at their expiration dates. Rondo isnt enough to build a team around.
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If they do that deal
Then turn around and get knocked out in the first round, I will have enough joy to last me a millenia.
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Yeah
How much longer can Pierce and Garnett play? Maybe 2 more years
Yeah but bringing in
CP3 makes them legit title contenders still
I disagree.
Rondo is really, really good at plenty of things, but he can’t score to save his life, and if you’re going to give up Chris Paul, you want to bring SOME form of point production back in return. Jeff Green’s a pretty lost cause, potential-wise. He’s decent, but he’s really far off from where people thought he’d be (and still think he is).
I do Houston’s deal in a heartbeat, especially given the draft picks and Dragic’s inclusion.
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Agreed.
Rondo is this generation’s Mookie Blaylock-good, but you don’t build a championship team around him. He’s a complementary piece.
I love this deal for the Rockets
Any time you can trade two good players for one almost great player, you do it. Gasol is a top 10 player Gasol-Patterson-Morris-Lee-Lowry is a playoff team barring injuries, and adding Nene gets you home court in the first round and a chance at the finals, especially with Tyson Chandler leaving Dallas.
I agree....
Love Scola and Martin, but they are liabilities defensively. If you can get Gasol and add Dalembert(my preference cuz you will have more$)…. Combine that with Lee locking down guys. Rox go from one of league’s worst defensive teams to probably a top 10.
If you can feel them, they are real.
And actually, if they got Gasol
it would make sense for them to overpay to bring back Hayes, who would be fantastic with a mobile 7 footer behind him.
Ummm NOOOOO
No way, no how should we pay Chuck 5 mill a season
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Hmmmmmm......
Dalembert
Gasol
Morris
Lee
Lowry
A really big defensive team, seems right for McHale as coach. Kinda small in the backcourt but they will be fast and good 2 way players.
Gotta get Oakafor in the deal aswell.
That would mean either trading Thabeet away as well or amnestying him to free up the room. I’d prefer to trade him in the deal to keep our amnesty up our sleeve for a later date. I don’t like the idea of LA not giving up anything else but Pau, that just i’snt right.
If we trade Scola and Martin there is no contract to use Amnesty on
We have the Shane trade exception of about 7milto use to match salaries. Scola and Martin total 21mil
Can't use the TPE
seeing as oakafor makes 12M and the TPE is only 7M
No room for Okafor in the deal.
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No way to make it work money wise
especially if their plan is to get Nene or Dalembert.
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
You could do it
but no way of knowing if Hornets will take back Thabeet…and having 30 million dollars invested in Pau and Okafor, means no way they can go after Nene/Dalembert. Which seems to be the plan
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
We'll see
but I can’t imagine the Rockets giving up Scola, Martin, picks, and Dragic…while having to take back that massive contract
by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Thabeet is in the deal but.
I see him getting amnestied by the rockets to facilitate the trade. And its hard to show that in the trade machine
Well if you got Oakfor
you wouldnt be going after Nene or Dalembert
Assuming they move CP3
They have 5 bodies under contract. We might be able to swing a deal for Okafor as a stand alone deal if they go elsewhere.
No way Okafor is in the deal
Why would New Orleans give up Okafor unless they were getting Bynum in the deal. Because 7-footers grow on trees? If you haven’t noticed, legit centers are tough to find.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
what is the amnesty clause?
I’ve been reading about, but don’t know what it is.
Other than Bryant, who does LA have? Fisher is old, Bynum is injured, Odom is only good with a complement like Bryant. Who else is on the team?
They just signed Jason Kapono
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by theSpaceCityKid on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
No but solid
We still need Lowry to continue like he played the last half of the season. If lee continues and Patrick develops as he appears that gives us 4 rotation players. Then hopefully out of Hill, Bud, Thabeet, Williams, Morris, Flynn and other youngs one or two will step up. Can be exciting but still a lot of ifs.
how much for Dalembert?
Why is Dalembert the center of choice now? Only if the Rockets can get him cheap, like $6-7MM/year cheap.
If we’re talking about Dalembert for $10MM/year, i’d much rather take my chances with Gau starting at the 5 or even Jordan Hill.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
I think none of this fits
unless their is something else in the works.
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No no no no
I’ve gone too many years making fun of this guy for him to end up on our team
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Gasol, easily.
He plays defense and has a much less scary injury history.
Depends.
Amare doesn’t really play defense and Pau isn’t really a good defender (but he somewhat tries). Amare also has injury problems. I’d go with Gasol.
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It doesnt really seem that great for the Lakers either
Unless they think DH12 will come with them next season.
If Bynum gets injured again who will step in for them in Gasol isnt there?? Odom??
This deal looks awful
I wouldn’t want to trade Kevin Martin for Pau Gasol straight up.
Agreed.
Not because of the value of Kevin Martin though. I think it’s Courtney Lee’s turn to shine, but that’s just me.
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As do I, buddy, as do I.
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I don't love Pau either...
But the man is 7-foot tall AND has a great low-post game. You can’t really find that combination anywhere anymore.
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Uh-oh
@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Hornets are expressing trepidation to those talking to them about three-team framework with Lakers and Rockets, league sources say.
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Wait, what does this exactly mean.
I looked up trepidation and it means fear, that doesn’t help. I’m too tired for this.
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If the Rockets help the Lakers
be able to get Chris Paul and Dwight Howard then I am done with the NBA forever.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 8, 2011 4:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
TheRocketGuy: Apparently the Rockets and Lakers have worked out this great 3-way trade without bothering to include the Hornets
another tweet
stevekylerNBA: Sources close to process say Houston and Lakers constructed CP3 deal. Hornets were never really involved. Hornets had talked only with LA
This is pretty funny.
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seems right because Scola and Martin doesnt seem what NOLA needs
for a team rebulding. They need young players with low salaries.
An earlier source said that NOH liked what Houston had to offer.
I don’t know about the validity of that though.
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It was Chris Broussard, and no matter how much I don't like the guy, he's pretty reliable.
He was the first to leak out that Lebron was heading South.
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Makes you wonder
could DM have floated this boat just to get NOs attention. It has caused the rumor mill to grind to a halt.
Looks like no Gasol
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The Hornets have started to inform teams that they’re sending Chris Paul to the Lakers for Bynum and Odom, league sources tell Y! Sports.
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Damn.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Dec 8, 2011 5:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good
it’s a garbage deal for NO, but at least we don’t have to get involved.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 8, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
The NBA gave this a lot of thought and decided...
We want the Lakers and Heat in the finals.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
What's the plan for playing Gasol, Odom and Okafor?
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You'd think
It’d be a good idea to let the team you plan on trading with to know a trade discussion is going on. Whats going on here?
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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 8, 2011 5:00 PM CST reply actions
Oh Well
Cant say Im shocked. At least this gave us something to talk about for the afternoon.
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by fanoflosingteams on Dec 8, 2011 5:07 PM CST reply actions
Hold on everyone
@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.
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Well that's a better deal
but it eliminates the possibility of the Lakers going after Howard.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 8, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
They don't have anyone besides
Bynum, and he isn’t enough to get it done by himself.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 8, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Earlier, Reports had the deal going down Bynum for Howard
So, Howard could still go to LA.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
so would New Orleans want to flip Pau
to Houston? Pau makes zero sense for New Orleans with his age and contract….
If you can feel them, they are real.
Plus...
He’d look funny in the NO uniform.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Id think they flip both Odom and Gasol
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by Patrick Harrel on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Odom, Gasol, and West
That’s a bit too deep and too good at the PF, one of those guys gotta go.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
So the Lakers get a great PG, but give up their real source of dominance, their frontcourt?
Fine by me. Of course they’ve cleared enough salary to get Howard, and Stern would love that. Who is their PF though?
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who needs a pf
when u have Dwight howard, see orlando magic with rashard lewis. They should just get someone like ryan anderson to come over in the trade
I've got a better idea
how bout we help out the other LA team in a deal for Chris Paul, offer a few of our many 2009 draftees and a few draft picks, and then get deandre jordan and a few 2012 draft picks……..
New Orleans get: Eric Bledsoe, Al Farouq Aminu, Chris Kaman’s expiring contract, Houston Rockets 2012 draft pick, Terrence Williams maybe Patrick Patterson
Houston get: Deandre Jordan, Trevor Ariza, Minnesota 2012 draft pick, New Orleans 2012 draft pick
Clippers get: Chris Paul
chuck in a few trade exceptions and i think it could work. The way i see houston building a better future is through the upcoming draft so i say we load up on draft picks.
Again with the news
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.
6 minutes ago
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:25 PM CST reply actions
I'm totally fine with this.
Especially if Houston manages to also bring in NeNe.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Again...
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Says a front office executive in the 3-team talks to send Chris Paul to Lakers: “We have not yet finalized, but we are close…”
3 minutes ago
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Per Marc Stein:
If rest of deal goes through as proposed, sources tell ESPN that HOU would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and Goran Dragic to N.O. for Gasol.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Not the Dragon!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Man, could we get them to take Flynn instead of Dragic?
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Right!
Flynn not Dragic!
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
fuck that
31 year old PF is not worth our two best players,
Lee & Gasol > Martin and Scola
plus we still have money to add a center
If you can feel them, they are real.
If Morey lets Dragic go and we don't go out and secure somebody else other than Flynn
then Morey just got bent over.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Well
it’s never happened before so I think we have to assume that it won’t happen this time till we see otherwise.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
true...
but let’s look at Flynn… and then of course Llull down the road.
If you can feel them, they are real.
I've already looked at Flynn
He’s ugly and his game is too.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Don't freak out, but I'm 100% agreed with you.
Flynn was too good in college to be bad in the NBA plus, everyone deserves a mulligan after playing for the Wolves. I like the idea of us having Llull to come over as well. Lee and Gasol might not put up as many points as Martin and Scola but it’s going to stop a hell of a lot more points. Even if it’s tossing in Dragic it’s not an overpay at all.
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I’ve said it elsewhere.
Flynn can’t be like Hill or Thabeet. A 5’11’’ dude without insane work ethic could never, ever make it into the NBA. That’s obvious.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
Find me 5 guys who have been thrilled to play in Minnesota?
Especially in a system that shits all over their skillset. If you can find me one in the last 3 years I’ll give you a hand jibber.
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I was going to name one
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by twinkilling0303 on Dec 8, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
We got a useful backup in Ish Smith for nothing.
Backup PG doesn’t worry me.
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I dunno
I really really hate Pau Gasol, I don’t think I would ever be okay with this deal.
by Bobbythegreat on Dec 8, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don't care much for him either...but
I do respect his game. Big Bird’s got skills.
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
hes not my favorite either
But he’s got a ton of talent and could attract other big name players as well. Not to mention id rather see a pau and lee duo over martin and scola.
by Dmo_Htx on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
not buying it
surely new orleans wont accept three guys past their prime and a backup pg for chris paul, especially when they have got potential offers from clippers/warriors full of young talent and promising draft picks
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by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:43 PM CST reply actions
Twitter Update
Y! Sources: Los Angeles Lakers nearing three-team deal to acquire New Orleans All-Star guard Chris Paul.
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Tweet 2
It is likely that the Hornets will receive draft picks as part of a package for Paul, but source says: “Those are still being determined.”
4 minutes ago
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
I hope they aren't ours but I know they will be
We are getting close to giving up too much
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Cap space
@Jonathan_Feigen Jonathan Feigen
WIth deal, Rockets would go from $8 to $11 mil in cap space. Can make it $16 with amnesty cut. Still in mix for Nene, who could stay in Den.
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Who's $5 million does it take to make room for NeNe?
…oh wait…
by Nobody is Better Than Jordan on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Or keep him and get Dalembert.
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Nene is not worth a max contract
And you’re going to shell out an additional $5MM for a guy not to play?
by Moochie's Fro on Dec 8, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
We are giving to much for that cry-baby! WTH
by rogerwhitedorcett on Dec 8, 2011 6:37 PM CST reply actions
Now we are "begging" Hayes to wait
Please don’t sign that dude back for that money
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Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sport
- Dwyane Wade’s hot pink pants: The kind of thing you can get away with when you drop 41
- Lamar Odom to New York? Dwight Howard on the move? For now, it’s all talk
- David West hilariously denies each and every one of his young fans a high-five (VIDEO)
- Behind the Box Score, where the Miami Heat are moving on to the conference finals
- Kevin Durant is tired of hearing about the Spurs
