Some random thoughts on Jerry Sloan's resignation
I tried to read the comments here... but too many people got off track.
Then someone actually referred to Jerry Sloan as "classy"?!?! GTFO.
It's been a theme/motto/mantra here for nearly four years - CLASSY IS OVERRATED. That said, however, Jerry Sloan is the epitome of "go f--k yourself, San Diego", as opposed to "you stay classy".
Let's get one thing clear: Jerry Sloan was a good coach who won enough games to keep his job for 23 years. This fact alone does not make him a good person. For Jerry Sloan would be shunned by society were he not a successful and famous basketball coach. As people usually do not take kindly to crotchety old men who bully and insult and chastise and discriminate with regularity.
This is a man who went out of his way on numerous occasions to defend the Worst Person in the World™ (Karl Malone). This is a man who would routinely refer to his players by homophobic slurs (notably Mr. Amaechi). No one has ever regretted leaving the clutches of Utah and Mr. Sloan. Even Carlos Boozer ran away at the first opportunity. People are now going to try to blame Deron Williams for what happened, and that is total BS. Deron for years has tried to take a larger leadership role with the team -- as he should because he is really good. But Mr. Sloan had no use for that. Every time Deron would suggest something, Sloan would dismiss it and belittle Deron by negatively comparing him to the alleged greatness of John Stockton. Keeping him in his place.
So what happens? Deron finally stands up to Sloan's bullying. Instead of actually being a coach and leader........ Sloan quits. On the spot. Another version of "my way or the highway" - the man simply could not adapt. Maybe this is why he never won a ring?

I say good bye and good riddance, Jerry. Everyone is moaning about how the NBA is worse off without Sloan, but that's a bunch of unsupported hyperbole. No one gave a shit about Utah before and no one will give a shit about Utah in the future. The way it should be.
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Excellent!
On the attitude adjustment scale, this ranks right up there with Barkley knocking Gary Peyton into the expensive seats for pulling the “bitch-slap excuse for defense” thing one too many times.
Sorry about the comments on the other story
I couldn’t control them. And I also don’t understand the sudden bemoaning of him leaving. It’s a business, not a family. Get over it. I feel bad for Tyrone Corbin. He’s never going to get credit for anything.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
If you are referring to my comments,
I just was trying to figure out why there is such hatred. I haven’t been here long enough to truly understand it. So my bad for messing up the anti-Jazz vibe.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
well...
You said you’ve only been following the Rockets since 2004… so you missed all the early 90s battles. Which is the foundation for a lot of the justified hate.
So I've discovered
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Where's my excuse?
I’ve been following them since I was old enough to watch basketball, I refuse to step foot in Utah because of my distaste for the Jazz, but I’m still willing to respect another man. I mean shit, ran into John McCain at a Wizards game and we talked basketball, I barely agree with any of his policies but he’s still a man with a tenure you gotta respect.
We all like to talk without much to say...
there's a difference
John McCain is not an asshole. I wouldn’t want him to be President or anything but he seems like a good guy and someone I could have a beer with. Sloan is none of those things.
I guess I just appreciate competition too much
let’s face it, if it weren’t for the vitriol in this rivalry combined with the perceived cheating of that team, the victories wouldn’t taste as sweet. We’re going from sugar to splenda with this guy leaving and Splenda just isn’t the same.
We all like to talk without much to say...
This is typical of your perversity.
The one thing that it is completely right and justified to hate and you defend it.
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by Xiane on Feb 11, 2011 2:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I actually heard a caller on 1560 this morning ask something about Sloan coaching the Rockets
It made me vomit. I don’t care how many years he went to the playoffs or how many games he has won. He’s spent the last twenty years teaching his teams to flop, whine, and take cheap shots while somehow convincing people in Utah that his teams were tough. Every team he has coached is widely regarded as one of the dirtiest in the league because thats the way he demanded them to play. On top of all that he’s apparently a discriminating asshole.
I hate how when people retire(or die) it suddenly becomes mandatory to act like they were/are such wonderful people. Talk about how many games he won, or what an amazing run he put together in Utah. No one can argue with that, but retiring didn’t suddenly make one of the leagues biggest pricks into a nice guy.
"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair
Agreed
Its not like he passed away and it would be rude and pointless to discuss the negatives of his career. Now that he has retired I think the discussion should be more about how amazing it is that the coach that was able to work in the same city with the same players including two HOFers in the same system for longer than any other coach in the history of the NBA was NEVER ABLE TO WIN IT ALL!?!?! Not to mention a player walks out on a team mid season and he is torn limb from limb, yet Jerry Sloan can do it and he is classy?
by theSpaceCityKid on Feb 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Great point
Not to mention a player walks out on a team mid season and he is torn limb from limb, yet Jerry Sloan can do it and he is classy?
by basketball is cool on Feb 11, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
+1
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Feb 11, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I promise you, that if that ever came to fruition
I would shut this blog down the second it was announced
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by UofTOrange on Feb 11, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Damn straight
Where the hell you been UT?
by basketball is cool on Feb 11, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Working and traveling all over the darn place
I need to get back
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Yes.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
This is epic win
Again, thank you for being you Dave. You brought a tear to my eye.
by basketball is cool on Feb 11, 2011 10:51 AM CST reply actions
I'm totally about to get banned from SLC Dunk
for what I posted on there. I mean, why would they have an entire article on “Jerry Sloan’s Numbers”? Obviously the most glaring number is the ZERO championships.
Fuck the Jazz
by basketball is cool on Feb 11, 2011 11:22 AM CST reply actions
Just like the Rockets the past 15 years...
And the Astros.. and the Oilers.. and the Texans..
Don’t use that argument to belittle someone when the teams we support are not very robust in that category either.
He had 23 years - that covers our championship period - so its fair in this case.
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Yes. It's a concern isn't it?
I think it’s fair to say he got completely jobbed out of a shot at the title with an excellent team, though.
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and just to add
how many current coaches have NBA titles? Phil, Doc, and Gregg. That’s it.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Hmm...
…Ah what the hell, I’ll ask. So, um, can someone tell what the Jazz hatred is all about? I’m a native Houstonian, and up until I stumbled upon this blog, I had never seen such animosity towards the Utah Jazz from Rockets fans, and I don’t get it. What is really interesting/weird about this, is that I’ve never (in real life) met someone who hates the Jazz, or even has a strong opinion about them (in fact, where I live, there’s more Lakers haters than anything else).
So… what’s the deal? Is there something about this team-in relation to the Rockets-that I don’t know about? I only ask because this blog (and the comments) go far beyond criticism into straight-up “Fuck You!” territory, and I don’t understand why. It can’t be just because of their reputation as a dirty team, could it? I mean, this is the kind of hatred you usually see between Celtics/Lakers fans! Mind you, I’m not hating on you guys for this or telling y’all to let up with the hate or anything like that – all I want to know is why. Why, of all the teams (and states) to hate on, was the Jazz chosen?
Something about seing Carl Malone
all 6’9" and 250lbs of him go crashing to the floor as the whistle blows and then watching the replay and seeing absolutely no contact. Rinse and repeat endless times, more so in the playoffs against us. If you are not familiar with Carl, Google him. The pictures don’t lie, in reality it would take a tactical nuke to knock his ass down. Also the constant slapping that passed for defense, Dream used to catch endless fingers in the eyes from these guys. They never won a ring cause they never deserved one, ball don’t lie.
…and?
Oh wait, is that it? That’s all there is to it?
…alrighty then, carry on.
P.S. Karl, not “Carl”.
You are really a Rockets fan?
I have my doubts, Correcting someone on Malones name? Your handle?
No one is going to love that asshat Sloan. Give up.
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by Xiane on Feb 11, 2011 2:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whoa there.
Dude, I never said I like Sloan or the Jazz. I can understand why people don’t like the team and Sloan, I just didn’t/don’t understand why someone would hate the team this much. Apparently I just didn’t know enough about my hometeam’s fanbase, so I guess the joke is on me. As for the handle, this is actually my brother’s account, who has a fondness for the Boston Celtics. As to whether that’s good or bad, I’ll let you decide.
Oh and my apologies for correcting makinmajik. I don’t often have the opportunity to correct somebody and I couldn’t resist the temptation to do it. Cheers.
You seem like a friendly guy
The thing about sports is that you can freely indulge that great human emotion hate and it hurts nobody. I don’t hate much – so give me this – I think they’ve earned. And from my post earlier you’ll see I have no giant problem with Utah itself.
But I am glad Sloan is gone, though it will probably make my hate less savory.
Make an account, stick around. We really only do this for the Jazz.
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by Xiane on Feb 11, 2011 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Questioning someone's fandom
is the first sign of a bad fan.
Jeez, Jazz apologist - Celtics handle?
I think it was a fair question. And then I said something nice. Relax.
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Green and White could be
Michigan State University.
Fair enough.
I suspected Celtics and was correct, though.
Now see, I really don’t like the Celtics. I don’t. Never have. But do I rant and rave about them? No, because I respect them. Grudgingly, but I do.
Utah is a different kettle of fish – I’d think the distinction is obvious.
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Hey man
I almost got in a fight with a kid who said I looked like Kirlinko (when he played for the Jazz). I understand the hatred. I live the hatred. But I understand that some people don’t play into that. And I understand that someone can be a fan and not despise other teams, even the most villainous teams out there. People have different mentalities when it comes to rooting for sports teams. So I guess I was just commenting on that. I love you Xiane, you’re no grungedave, that’s for sure.
It takes all kinds.
I really enjoy my Jazz hatred. If its wrong I don’t want to be right.
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by Xiane on Feb 11, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Stockton and Malone
The fact that they stock pile non-existent fouls and stat at their home court, the fact that Karl Malone is by far the dirtiest player to ever played the game.
I personally has nothing against Sloan the coach, I hate his brand of basketball and hate the D-bags he trained, but he is a fine coach.
It's simple:
You guys basically ‘cheat’ to win games. It was Jerry Sloan’s style. I’ll explain:
You guys flop your nuts off. I get that Scola does it for us, but the players on the Jazz go to such an extreme to sell the ‘contact.’
Your fans, for some reason, welcome this type of play, and they don’t care what the call is, just as long as it goes in favor of the Jazz. Maybe not people on SLC, but if a Jazz player even falls down without an opposing player even in his area, the crowd will erupt calling ‘foul,’ and the refs call it.
We hate Jerry Sloan for this. He emphasizes this type of play. He’s supposed to be ‘tough as nails,’ but I can’t imagine how he is.
I will give Sloan this credit: His defensive rotations are outstanding. The timing is perfect. Otherwise, I’m not a fan of him.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Feb 11, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Scola isn't even a flopper, he adds flair to his falls.
Martin and Lowry on the other hand, now there are your floppers on the Rockets.
martin doesn't really draw that many charges
and the large majority of fouls on offense are called because players are touching his arms when he is shooting—i would almost put some of it down to his weird shooting motion.
the pump fake and jumping into a shot is one he’s good at and one that could be considered a flop, but a lot of players around the league do it.
also, martin is like 6’7" and looks like he’s about 170 pounds. very different from a big dude like malone.
wait, what?
How are so many of yall agreeing with this? “but that’s a bunch of unsupported hyperbole”…so “Every time Deron would suggest something, Sloan would dismiss it and belittle Deron by negatively comparing him to the alleged greatness of John Stockton.” WTF where are you getting this from? If this is satire like South Park then..fine, I missed it. Please say it is.
I don’t like the Jazz. But the man should be respected tremendously. Even if he had a shitty losing record his entire career (which wouldn’t be too realistic given his long tenure), both his mentalilty and toughness to the game ALONE should warrant far more respect.
You don’t have to like him as a person.
If somebody were to announce to the world at the end of Kobe’s career, “fuck him. Good riddance, that rapist.”, it would be just as dumb for missing the point entirely. You can still continue to hate the jazz and loathe Jerry, but show respect where respect is (obviously) due.
Kinda goin on a tangent here.. I just feel it is my obligation as a fellow Rockets fan to tell some of you, “Grow the fuck up.” It lowers the integrity of the overall fanbase, in my opinion.
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by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions
none of this makes any sense
You basically answered your own question here:
“You don’t have to like him as a person” – indeed I don’t. And as a result, I owe him nothing, including respect. For he gets none from me for dirtying up the game the last 23 years.
Dave, did you delete my post related to basketball is cool
or did i mess up posting it?
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Dave's not a big deleter of posts, so I doubt it
But this guy deserves acknowledgment of his longevity and winning record. That’s about it. He’s never really won anything of significance.
In 23 years he’s finished 1st in his division 8 times. Which is nice I guess. He did go to the finals twice. Again, nice I guess. But that’s all he has to show for having 2 Hall of Fame (douches) playing for him for most of that time.
The guy is notorious for being a complete and utter ass to his players and for playing favorites.
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I'm not posting anything about Sloan.
Basketball is cool attacked me yesterday, calling me dickless and being a total pissy bitch. Now I have just seen that he posted on SLC, calling me out, calling me a complete pansy deauche. He is bitching at me being i am attempting to be a better man here, and I’m sick of it. Every post I’ve placed on here, he won’t respond to, and doesn’t have the balls to adress me personally. So this is just a call out to him. It has nothing to do with Sloan.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Do we still need to kiss and make up?
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Feb 11, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
This aint about you,man.
You and me are straight. This for the troll, basketball is cool. Seeing as this is the only blog/social media/interaction online with anyone, I don’t know how things work online. Idk if this is an anonymous power trip thing, but I know if this was real life, then I doubt he would have the balls to say the things he does. So I just want to ask him what is his problem with me. I don’t see how him attacking me and then not responding to my inquiries is my being a pansy.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Quit crying bro
The “troll” as you’ve called me has been trollin’ for years, so deal with it.
Why would you assume that I wouldn’t say these things in person? Not that I have shit to prove to you, but anyone that knows me personally knows that I am usually the biggest, loudest fan at the bar watching the game. Generally, that goes hand in hand with being the drunkest, but that’s a whole other thing. Trust me, I’ve gotten into beef with Jazz fans, Lakers fans (especially since there’s so many of them), Spurs fans, Mavs fans, anybody and everybody that does not love my team and/or my city. Trust me my friend, you would be no different.
I have absolutely no problem with you. Dude I do not know you. This is the internet. You were saying things that I strongly disagreed with, and I called you out on them. Simple as that. I don’t give a shit whether you care or not, if you’re going to post something I don’t like, and put yourself out there like that, then be prepared for me to say something in return. It’s a good thing this is a blog, where I have my freedom to say what I’d like, when I like. What really bothers me is the fact that there used to be some die hard fans here a couple years ago, and now everyone is talking about how “they respect the Jazz” or “they respect Jerry Sloan”. This is not the place for respect of other teams. This is a place for Rockets fandom, crazy as it may be, and yes, I am one of the crazies.
I’ll put you in the same bag as BD, I was my hands of you both.
by basketball is cool on Feb 11, 2011 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you for finally posting.
I don’t see why you have to continually take things to such childish levels, but it is your choice. All I wanted to know was why you had to do this whole retarded-ass thing. You do realize I am just as “die hard” or anything you want to call it when it comes to my Rockets. I am simply asking because in my life, I have never been attacked or called like you have. Anyone gets close to that, a fight ensues. I know this extremely rare for most people, but I am very new to the internet. I don’t chat, I don’t participate in anything. No facebook, twitter, anything like that.This is it for me. So it just really caught me off guard to hear that kind of stuff. I see that you and me come from two totally different ideals and backgrounds, and I understand that now. I didn’t before. I am a fan of logical reasoning, you like to be a bitch and cry. I got you, man. I understand it now. So I have no beef with you now, and thank you again for posting.
Lastly, respect comes in many ways. I respect a man until he gives me real proof to not respect him. I have not been around here long enough to disrespect the man. If you have a problem with that, please, mind your own fucking business. I am here to talk basketball, not to get bitched at my a little kid that doesn’t like what I say.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
“but I know if this was real life, then I doubt he would have the balls to say the things he does.”
Welcome to the internet.
Slut.
by seanbergmanrules on Feb 11, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I have to say the internet sucks. lol
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by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
yes, I deleted it
You violated a basic rule: no insulting other commenters. If you have issues with each other… deal with it privately. Not here. And certainly don’t bring issues from another blog here. I don’t have the time or patience to deal with that shit.
If it doesn't make sense to you,
then clearly your judgement on what constitutes “respect” is directly related to what i percieve as “class” or “high character”.
I know you made the blog, so you can say whatever you’d like. And it’s usually funny or witty.
It’s just that, in my opinion… due to the high amount of rockets fans that visit, you are doing an incredible disservice to our fandom when you announce such shit, with far less respect than the fans of the game should give Jerry. Maybe your sense of responsibility goes to the extent of “I bet this will get a good chuckle.” But if you at least have respect for this blog you created, then maybe you’d begin to see.
And don’t try to reply with, “fans of Rockets and fans of the game are 2 different things.” because that would just be an ignorant attack on our own Red and Yellow.
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by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 2:38 PM CST reply actions
I think my earlier piece
lays out why I think the “tough” thing is a crock of utmost shit. Now all you’re left with is a cockhole who couldn’t get it done in 23 years.
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by Xiane on Feb 11, 2011 2:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
thing is,
I know you’re not that clueless. Take Amechie (?)s word and compare it to every NBA PROFESSIONAL of the past 25 years. Maybe he’s homophobic. Not a good thing, but obviously more than 90% of the professionals you’d ask would show A LOT of respect for Jerry as an NBA coach. I don’t need to support this; you know it, I know it, grungedave knows it. No baseless argument for cheating will ever cloud the fact that this man deserves your respect as an NBA fan.
As far as accomplishments, just look em up. NO championships, but A LOT of winning while staying loyal to 1 franchise. And now his career is finished.
Damn people. Wake up, we’re not that stupid.
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by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Stupid? I honestly think we are when it comes to the Jazz.
I attempt to figure it out, and end up realizing that this hatred is held for no real reason whatsoever. Most of these guys are just follwing the leader, and actually don’t have a really good reason for all this hatred. So yes, I think we are that stupid.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Guys really.
This isn’t the same thing as hating someone because of who they are, it’s hating a team for how it acts. This isn’t religious hatred or bigotry. It’s sports hate, which is Hate Lite.
Here’s a link to a fantastic book about the North Carolina v Duke basketball rivalry. Its title?
“To hate like this is to be happy forever.”
I thoroughly approve of the sentiment.
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by Xiane on Feb 11, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There's a lot more than Amaechi there. I didn't put it all out there, just the most telling quote I could find.
Even Ameachi, who hates him, said he knew his stuff. I’ll give him that and I did.
But I thought Utah’s style of play under him was revolting. I can not like a way of playing basketball, can’t I? I gave my reasons.
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I don't understand
The guy taught his team how to cheat well, and that’s how he got those wins. How is that to be respected?
I mean, I actually like Marion Jones, but she cheated. Is she to be respected?
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oh ok.
so most of his thousand wins came from “cheating”.
1. He demanded respect from his best players and they, for the most part, stayed loyal. He coached great talent.
2. Acting is part of the game, he didn’t come up with it. Red Auerbach bitched about it throughout Jerry’s PLAYING days.
3. We always diss Clutchfans. Why exactly?
4. I can’t believe I’m actually going on and on defending Jerry fucking Sloan.
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by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
huh?
If what I say here has ANY effect on what is perceived as the “typical Rockets fan” then everyone’s perspective is completely fucked up. I speak for no one but myself. This is my forum and people apparently like to read it. No more, no less.
and fuck Jerry Sloan. Right in the ear. He quit on his team in the middle of the season. Basically throwing a temper tantrum because Deron didn’t kiss his non-existent rings. He’s a douchebag.
oh,
the “this is my blog” card i just handed you. Alright then. Can we at least change the little “from the fan perspective” line into “GrungeDave hates the jazz A lot LOL ITS SO FUNNY LETS READ IT!”
I mean other SB Nation sites might be a little confused but hey, at least it won’t allow them to ever assume “wow. those rocket fans are some bitter dicks. Their fans are kinda lame. At least the ones on the SB Nation site..”
And if its such a temper tantrum, how come there is no mention or even a hint of any feud, or “lack of respect” within his announcement? But their is plenty of mention of those he was forever thankful for that got him into “such a blessing”. Yea, sounds like a complete faggot.
Or maybe…you’re reaching desperately for a new reason to justify such animosity towards the man. Nah couldn’t be. After all, you run the site, you delete comments. You’re a rockets fan and so am I. So you’re right.
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
At the end of the day
And I know I’ve stated this before, this blog belongs to Dave, UT, and Tom. Also somewhat to Xiane, AK, OaL, and Mike. This is their blog. If you do not like it, then…

by basketball is cool on Feb 11, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
basketball is cool
i thought this was a blog for rockets fans. Not an oligarchy w/ witless dick riders seeking special approval from them.
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
the statement is valid
this is A blog for rockets fans. there are several other blogs for rockets fans. there are several forums for rockets fans. there are several free blogging sites—you could start your own blog in about 5 minutes for free. you can buy your own domain name for $3 for a year, install free blogging software on it and use it as your own soapbox.
this is what the creators of this site have done (except for more money, presumably, to handle the large amount of traffic that comes here). they never said they are the quintessential rockets blog. they’ve never said that every rockets fan has to agree with them.
it’s still a platform for personal opinion. this is not a freaking news column.
So is it wrong to call someone out that you believe is wrong?
Because every single person does that on this blog. There are no exceptions to the case.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
^true
I mean i may have went a little further by stating that GrungeDave was irresponsible with that trash. At the same time, its how I feel
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
^true
I mean i may have went a little further by stating that GrungeDave was irresponsible with that trash. At the same time, its how I feel
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
you can call people out as much as possible
but you shouldn’t pretend like they should change their behavior as a result, since it is their blog
i like this blog. almost like an internet family
but this ignorance and lack of class frustrates me so much that I just might. And that’s reala den real deal holyfield.
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
This family puts the FUN in dysfunctional....
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
lol.
people are going to assume we’re the same account. Because, u know. We’re the only 2 sticking up for him. and…yeah.
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Who knows? Maybe this is just one person
posting with his two personalities, but both are on the Chuckwagon bandwagon
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 11, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
and i cant tell..
fight club style
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
lack of class?
If you are looking for “classy” commentary and interaction…. you might as well GTFO because you are in the wrong place.
lol
thanks..hopefully that came out as cool as you intended
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 13, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I have watched Houston sports
from 1976. One thing you learn quickly is that our teams get zero slack from officials or the media. You can lament the fact or get over it. When the other team works that fact as a part of the game plan, that gets under my skin. Beat us with talent, I won’t say a word. Work at giving Dick Bavetta a chance to be a bigger prick than he already is, that I have a problem with.
When the Rockets won the titles, they did it in spite of the officials, no one should win one because of them.
You guys sound like a bunch of fucking BITCHES
Haha seriously? All this hating because we’re “cheaters”?
Wow, I never knew how uneducated the rockets fan base was to the game of basketball.
I seriously hope this “blog” doesn’t reflect most rocket fans because if so, your an embarassment to NBA fans everywhere.
Haha… We’re cheaters, I don’t think you guys realize how dumb you sound.
This “blog” is a joke, rocket fans are cocksuckers, have nice day
"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins
"I don’t create controversies. They’re there long before I open my mouth. I just bring them to your attention." - Sir Charles Barkley
BTW
There are a few reasonable people on here. Mad respect for not jumping in with the majority of losers in here
Props for dealing with such deuchebags everyday
"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins
"I don’t create controversies. They’re there long before I open my mouth. I just bring them to your attention." - Sir Charles Barkley
by smacktalk801 on Feb 11, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
it really doesn't
’"reflect most rocket fans" so you can take the “rocket fans are cocksuckers” remark and kill yourself slowly. Since you have nothing better to do then make an account named after what you do all day on the computer. Might as well
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
sorry let me re-phrase that
99% of rocket fans are cocksuckers
"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins
"I don’t create controversies. They’re there long before I open my mouth. I just bring them to your attention." - Sir Charles Barkley
by smacktalk801 on Feb 11, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent. Now go away forever.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
The problem is you're blind and hostile.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Because "rocket fans are cocksuckers" is an intellegent statement
I love how ironic your post is
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
I'm sorry, we can't understand you. Our championship rings are clogging up our ears.

Beautiful, aren’t they? You wouldn’t know, as you all have none.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Feb 12, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That was fun to read!!
GO ASTROS!! Oh wait…
"Hey, what do you think about Jerry Sloan retiring?"
“Don’t give a shit.” That’s what I said to everybody who asked me today.
If you're a fan of basketball, watch a movie called Sonicsgate. It's free, just google it.
Awesome post!
The one question i have is, even though the way he’s portrayed is totally hypocritical probably because of Utah’s whitebread Mormon rep., how has he never won coach of the year? It’s unbelievable that Byron Scott, Mike Brown, Sam Mitchell, and Mike Dumbleavy have in the last 15 years but he hasn’t. Those guys are awful! And since the Malone/Stockton years, as obnoxious as he is, he did keep Utah pretty competitive! Still can’t stand him though :).
Port Arthur, TX
by Screamin' Demons on Feb 11, 2011 5:26 PM CST reply actions
its more that he was pretty much the same every yeare
and the award generally goes to that surprising coach or whose on ESPN more from what i can tell.
Maybe nobody liked him?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
"I always say if Jerry Sloan hasn''t won it there''s something wrong with that award."
-our coach.
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 11, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
You stay classy Jerry
"Jerry called me a stupid f***ing c**t and then suspended me when I went right back at him and told him that wasn’t going to happen again," he states. "That’s not old school. It’s just rude. Who says that to a grown man?"
Who is this attributed to?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
pfft
my hs coach said the same shit all the time. And I still love him to this day.. You’d be better off if u could find some gay-bashing
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 12, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
sounds like to me
Ameichi needed to man up. It’d prolly be 100X worse if Bob Knight ran thangs..
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 15, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Chuck wagon is rolling
Has only been around since 2004?
And has the balls to to talk shit to me??
Haha totally joking with you, just fucking around.
You should go watch some old rockets jazz games from 92-96, and you will understand.
I was at a game IN UTAH in 94 and Stockton fell on me while we were sitting court side. I was 11. I told him to go fuck himself and my dad yelled at me, but today he said I’m glad youre my son lol!
This is the reason the hatred is so strong for me, as it was a family thing and much more than just me hating cause everyone else did
by AllenOU on Feb 12, 2011 10:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Hey man, in 94 I was 4. I was a late basketball bloomer. I got into basketball around 10
but didnt get my rockets thing till I was 14. So yes,I’m afraid I have missed all this hatred going on here. I aint’ talking no shit to you, anyways. I just put you back in yo place. Same thing, right?
And man, watching a game can’t get me to hate them anymore. It’s just a video. The true essense of basketball is lost in something when it pertains to something I don’t know about, players I cannot judge because I will never know them. I can watch them and go, well that sucks. But that’s in the past. This is the present. New players.
So seeing as I just seem to have caused a huge amount of controversy here, I think I shall just be keeping my mouth shut from now on. All this bullshit ain’t worth it.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 12, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
hmmmmm
I guess my biggest beef here is that someone who ADMITTEDLY never saw John Stockton play alongside Karl Malone (and certainly not against the Rockets) not only believes they are qualified to comment on a “Jerry Sloan sucks” post… but somehow even seems compelled to do so.
That would be like me commenting on an art show I never attended. Which is ridiculous.
Compelled? Grow up, Dave.
I was commenting because I was trying to figure out why. I see something I don’t understand, I ask questions as to why people hate so much. If you look at what I have posted, you will see I am attempting to figure out why things are this way. My whole family has been watching the Rockets for 20+ years, yet I never hear anything from the aside from them wanting us to beat them. I have NEVER said I was qualified to do anything. But seeing as I am a admittedly newer Rocket than most of the people here, I see nothing wrong with asking questions as to why things are this way.
I have found out why people here hate so much. And seeing as I form my own opinions, I cannot hate on Sloan so much just because ya’ll do. I respect the opinions here, and nowhere did I try to squash anyones opinion. I just wanted to understand.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 13, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
asking questions my ass
You are criticizing everything negative anyone says about Sloan within these alleged “questions”… maybe just sit back and listen/read instead of trying to re-direct the conversation when you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Let's see...I posted that I sent my condolences, then was declared stupid by basketball is cool.
Please tell me where I was “critizing” someone when I wasn’t just defending myself from childish attacks. And if your logic is true, does that mean that people who haven’t been here at least ten years or so are unwelcome to post here?
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 13, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
not at all
It’s just that most people know when to keep quiet when they are wildly speculating outside their area of expertise.
And I don’t give two shits about your issues with another commenter. Keep it outta here. I’m not your referee.
No speculating. Just questioning.
I was honestly not attempting to speculate anything. I can’t see how on earth it came across as that, but if it did, I apologize. I was sincerely curious, as I jsut couldnt figure it out. Only reason I got defensive was because of the fierceness I got from it. And I know you don’t give two shits, let alone one. The only reason I asked you was because you deleted my comment to him, and yet his comments were able to go on. Just didn’t make sense to me. I didn’t want you as my referee, but you deleted my post made me wonder what the hell was going on.
"Today for show and tell I’ve brought a tiny marvel of nature: a single snowflake. I think we might all learn a lesson from how this utterly unique and exquisite crystal… ..turns into an ordinary boring molecule of water just like every other one when you bring it in the classroom. And now, while the analogy sinks in. I’ll be leaving you drips and going outside." ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Feb 13, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
lol
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 13, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
You're missing all possible context
Karl Malone and John Stockton weren’t basketball players: they were actors. Soccer players around the world watch their work to pick up tips to flop without contact. Malone and Stockton make my four year old daughter look like fucking Chuck Norris (though, to be fair, my daughter is pretty tough).
It’s one thing to lose to a team that’s better than you. It’s a completely different matter to lose to a team that spent more time on the floor, writhing in faux-agony, in order to draw bullshit fouls game-in/game-out.
Also, 0 rings. Karma took care of those whiny bitches.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Also, let me add...
A huge reason I no longer follow basketball with a fiery passion? The Utah Jazz. It was when they could consistently get away with their obvious bullshit that I simply gave up on the game. And I started watching the Rockets when they went 28-54 in 77/78.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
bigfatdrunk
I disagree on your assumptions of both Karl and Mr. Stockton, most notably because they were not actors in my humble opinion, but rather great basketball players with a wide arsenal of dirty, yet effective in dire instances, tactics.
If you feel that your opinion on both Hall of Famers is correct, however, then by all means I encourage you to keep that stance, as I respect any and all opinions contributed in a healthy manner.
-chuckhayesALLSTAR2010
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 13, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
You are truly special.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Feb 13, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
hey man
thanks!
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 13, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
By "dire instances" you mean the first, second, third and fourth quarters, I presume?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
cheating, crying, jersey-holding, jacking off on dancers
1 thing u need to remember is EA Sports. If it’s in the game..it’s in the game.
Charles Barkley played rough and dirty but us rocket fans tend to overlook this..at least its convienent!
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 15, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Come back. The NBA is much better than it has been in a LONG time.
The league dealt with rules lawyering this year. I think flopping is on the menu soon.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
dang no more flopping
that sounds like quite an adjustment for…every single team.
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 15, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Bro
I been at college son…….we need to go to a rockets game together I got season ticketed bro, like I’ll go an get on here tryna fux wit y’all boys but dis dude Dave threatened to ban me???? He say dat I’m dumb bro…I’m in college dough…..
/////I’m in college fo da knowledge\\\\\\
Ima d*ck so i shouldnt be dat hard to swallow
i aint finished yet
i am a jr in college bro……i aint a writing major i major in anotha field bro……jus sayin…..i mean i do gots a 3.4 gpa dat gotta count for sumtin….deans list aint easy ta get on davey dave…..
/////haterade is not healthy for you dave\\
Ima d*ck so i shouldnt be dat hard to swallow
grungedave
that was a personal attack. That’s not what we do here on The Dreamshake (tsk, tsk)
I found 83 cents in my backyard after last night's party..I'm not returning it until the owner describes what coins were lost in EXACT change. -Willie White's status
by chuckhayesALLSTAR2010 on Feb 15, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I gotta say, man
if I lived in Houston, I’d be taking you up on that. I missed your comments on this thing. Do what ya gotta in college.
In the garage, I feel safe.
No one cares about my ways.
In the garage where I belong.
No one hears me sing this song.
In the garage.
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