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From the No Duh Department, Yao told the AP that he wants to stay in Houston

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And I, for one, would love to keep him.

6th Man of the Year for 2012 right here.

by basketball is cool on Apr 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

It's not 6th man in reputation only, is it?

Hands down he wins on those terms but shy of that, I’m not buying it. His first return went down the tubes faster than an unwanted pregnancy on prom night and he lost my faith at that point.

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by BD34 on Apr 22, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he can "start" for the ASG...

And yes, before you shoot off a tangent, I know they are not similar in any way, shape, or form.

by basketball is cool on Apr 22, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

plz tell me yao is not trying to come back… WTF i thought he would consider retiring if he got injured again! Guaranteed to get injured every year.. Rudy Gay, artest,ariza, brooks Daryl Morey tell me what you see in yao that you didnt see in some of these allstar caliber player??

by quizzaid on Apr 22, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I am sick, I know

But I really just have a feeling about Yao returning in a good way

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by UofTOrange on Apr 22, 2011 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

You're not the only one

though my opinion has been beaten into the ground at this point.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on Apr 23, 2011 3:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

He should just retire

We cannot not trust him to be healthy. We have to move on from this chapter.

Me against the world is a mismatch in my favor.

by batman713 on Apr 22, 2011 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

And move onto Chapter 11?

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on Apr 23, 2011 3:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Creative bankruptcy counter, but let's be honest

He’s not going to break this franchise. He needs to not come back in a player capacity but in another personnel capacity.

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by BD34 on Apr 23, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I understand

but I really wanted to make that statement. Batman knows me well enough to know I’m just messing around.

How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!

by ak2themax on Apr 23, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love the heart Yao has

I wish I had the passion for something that he has for basketball. It’s a mixed bag from me…so many reasons to keep him and to let him go. If the money was right, I’d have to say keep him. Who knows how much he would be offered by another team though, could sway his decision. And I’d hope the Rockets wouldn’t offer him a big number.

by twinkilling0303 on Apr 23, 2011 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

sign him and get a chair ready

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by craigj007 on Apr 23, 2011 7:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I bet players love getting traded to Houston or signing with us.

We’re the only franchise next to the Blazers where you get half of your contract paid up front with a suit and 40 games on the IR.

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by BD34 on Apr 23, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

He would make a good assistant coach

working with the bigs. I hate to see him damage his feet past the point where he can walk properly, and he is pretty close to that now.

by makinmajik on Apr 23, 2011 10:45 AM CDT reply actions  

If I were Rockets management I'd just look at him and say "Dude, your kid is going to want to run around with you someday..."

“Head out to greener pastures. You’ve got notoriety, a couple of businesses, money, and a franchise that will give you a staff position. Call it a day.”

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by BD34 on Apr 23, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine how tall Yao looks

from the perspective of a small child? He’ll know it’s his dad because he’ll know exactly what his fathers knee caps look like

by twinkilling0303 on Apr 23, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you view Yao now as different than Mutombo's last 3 years in Houston?

If you can get 12-15 minutes/game out of Yao for 50 games a season or so, that’s probably a big positive. I guess if you have the opportunity to sign a big center you really like, then OK, I understand. But if we can’t land one, the prospect of going into next season with Hayes/Hill/Thabeet/Miller at center isn’t exciting to me.

Is there a reason you think Yao’s game wouldn’t translate well to a bench role?

I don’t understand the health concern. This isn’t football; it’s really unlikely Yao would have a life-altering injury. Yeah, another injury might affect his ability to play pick-up games when he’s 45, but nothing is going to happen that will stop him from having a normal, pain-free, couch-potato life like mine.

by Metalate on Apr 23, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do view it differently as Mutombo's because Mutombo wasn't a walking 40 IR player.

Your denial of it is just plain laughable at this point. You may not be excited about heading in with Hayes/Hill/Thabeet/Miller that’s not mine nor Houston’s problems. I’m of the mindset that Miller isn’t long for us anyway but that Hill and Thabeet need minutes and we’re a rebuilding team anyway so who cares about development and project players? We’re in development and a project.

It’s not that I don’t think Yao’s game won’t translate, it’s that his body won’t hold up. You say Yao won’t have a life altering injury but when his foot is made as brittle as it has been, it IS. I don’t know if you’re aware of this but Yao has had several injuries and this last season was not his first. Your ignorance of the impact of this kind of damage is just plain shameful. I understand you want Yao back but it’s highly unlikely that he’ll return in good nick and even less likely that if he does he’ll stay upright and not manage to cripple himself permanently.

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by BD34 on Apr 23, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Yao is made of plantains

He needs to retire before it’s too late. I don’t want him handicapping this franchise any longer with his awolness. Unless he takes a very small contract for no more than two years we need to give him the cold shoulder and move on. I understand that so many people just want to see Yao back but they have to realize that the man has a freakish fram and people his size are not meant to be moving as athletically as he does. It isn’t whether he gets put back on IR it’s when he does. I fear he will when it is most critical. As you guys know I like to take chances but we have already crapped out trying to role the Dice of Ming. Time to leave the casino and cut our losses with the guy.

Me against the world is a mismatch in my favor.

by batman713 on Apr 23, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're really being a dickhead here unnecessarily, BD.

I asked some questions about your views on this, mostly because I was interested in your views, and you have just completely insulted me.

Among your points: “Your ignorance of the impact of this kind of damage is just plain shameful.” Really? The fact that I don’t have a crystal ball or an orthopedic surgeon’s understanding of the long-term consequences of repeated stress and injuries to a 7-6 man’s limbs is shameful? He’s a one-of-a-kind person. I don’t exactly have experience in this area to fall back on.

I’ll try hard to ask a sincere question about the last point. If you want to continue the attitude, that’s fine; I’ll just forget it and won’t try having any conversations with you going forward.

I see a big difference between, on one had, a huge injury risk that would end a basketball career, lead to a long and painfully recovery/rehab, and perhaps limit your access to certain types of intense exercise for life. The other hand is an injury risk that would lead to life-long, catastrophic injury: needs to use a wheelchair for life, can’t walk a half-mile at a moderate pace without pain, can’t lift a dining-room chair and carry it across the room.

If it’s the first case, and Yao wants to give it a go, it seems perfectly reasonable to me. I’d probably do it in his shoes. if it’s the second, then clearly a reasonable person might believe it would be unconscionable for him to come back. I’m not a doctor, but I just can’t think of historical precedent in basketball for the latter case. Are there players you know of who suffered permanent, crippling injuries on the court? It’s possible this discussion is too black/white, but I have a hard time parsing finer than those two scenarios.

by Metalate on Apr 23, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your plea for me to be rainbows and kittens isn't going to work.

If you don’t like a grown up conversation about something then don’t try asking me about things. The fact remains that Yao has a proven track record of injury issues and as it stands I doubt he will be able to come back with any reasonable capacity. He’s repeatedly enduring stress fractures and it’s natural bone condition that if it consistently fails it will consistently weaken. It returns stronger but the re-break rate on his foot is far too alarming.

The only players that suffered major crippling injuries endure it once, Yao’s injuries are unique in that they are CHRONIC.

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by BD34 on Apr 23, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have a right to be insulting, but please don't try to equate it with "grown up conversation."

You’re conflating risks to Yao’s long-term health with risks to the Rocket’s ability to build a winning basketball team. If you want to argue that Yao won’t be worth the money he’s paid and has no place on this young team, fine. But please keep that argument separate from what course is best for Yao as a person. And you didn’t really address my question.

by Metalate on Apr 23, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your question got lost in the wall of complaint.

I was never arguing that the Rockets can’t build a winning basketball team with Yao. I’m arguing that it’s smarter for him to preserve his long term health and, while he still can, WALK away from basketball and just take some kind of office job with the Rockets.

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by BD34 on Apr 23, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure he would be a good coach.

It’s a pretty different game for him (in ways good and bad) than it is for everyone else in the league. He ain’t gonna find a sweet-shooting 7-6 guy to mentor. What does Yao’s game have in common with Jordan Hill? Neither one could get much PT this year. The similarities end there.

He’s a smart guy, so maybe he could be a great coach, but I don’t know that he would.

by Metalate on Apr 23, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he would be willing to sign for close to the minimum then i would have no problem with it

If he wants more than that I would tell him to retire. I think he has stolen enough money from this franchise in the last few years to where he would accept a small contract in order to prove that he really can come back.

by Bobbythegreat on Apr 23, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I like that idea

He should get exactly the deal that Detroit gave T-Mac.

Me against the world is a mismatch in my favor.

by batman713 on Apr 23, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea too,

But that’s probably not enough money. TMac may have been completely washed up even if healthy, and was viewed as an attitude risk as well. There’s an over-abundance of wing players.

Centers on the other hand, are really rare. If Yao is healthy enough to play, he would be valuable even if his skills have really regressed. I think Brad Miler’s deal is much closer to fair. For vet minimum, I’d sign him in a hearthbeat. For closer to mid-level exception, I think it depends what the rest of the roster looks like.

by Metalate on Apr 23, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The question I want to ask is this:

When is he going to be healthy enough to play? How many games has he played since he got hurt in his last playoff game? Is this a guy you think is going to even give you 50 games? Either he takes a small contract or he needs to retire. At least T-Mac got healthy and proved he can still be effective. Yao can’t prove anything but that he is the tallest suit model in the world. He is getting paid to rehab and have the best seat in every Rocket game. He is getting paid to be an insider.

Me against the world is a mismatch in my favor.

by batman713 on Apr 23, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could always go elsewhere in the league as well.

And maybe that’s best for everyone. Yao’s likely to break down again, and probably soon.

But here’s my thing: only the top 8-9 guys on an NBA roster really matter. So if there are no salary-cap rules preventing it, and it doesn’t prevent us from signing a top-8 guy that we want, then I see no down side to signing him again.

by Metalate on Apr 23, 2011 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I would love to have Yao back.

He’s one of my favorite players, ever.

However, I think it’s time we move on. Even though we do not have a center other then Thabeet, who will still be developing next year, I just think it’s time to play our young guys, especially Thabeet.

If Yao were to be healthy next season, he’d still be one of the best low post players in the game. He’s not old, and skill doesn’t leave a player at his age.

It all depends on Thabeet. Thabeet, to me, is the higher priority, mainly because he’s our future at center.

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by bone31crusher on Apr 24, 2011 1:20 AM CDT reply actions  

future or furniture at center?

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by craigj007 on Apr 27, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

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