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2011 Rockets Off-Season Preview: Running Down Potential Centers
Ever since Yao Ming went down in that classic series against the Los Angeles Lakers in 2009, the Rockets have been searching for a center who can fill the role of a shot-blocker, rebounder, and occasional scorer on the block. Chuck Hayes has started at the pivot admirably for two seasons, but stands at just 6'6" and can struggle against longer, finesse players that have invaded the league like fire ants over the last few years. Hayes, a free agent this off-season, will likely be brought back, but the Rockets must look to upgrade at the center position if they are interested in competing in the Western Conference in the near future.
After the jump, I'll run down all of the Rockets options at that frustrating position.
Nene, free agent: After the Nuggets traded away Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks, many were quick to speculate on the Rockets' interest in Nene. The Rockets were known to have expressed interest in upgrading at the center, but, in the end, the Nuggets opted to hold on to Nene and hope for the best in contract negotiations.Nene has an opt-out clause in his contract that he will likely exercise barring unforeseen circumstances and will enter free agency when it begins (right after the lockout). At 28, he may not be the long term answer at the center position, but he'd add a lot to a team that desperately needs size. He would not be the shot-blocking force some would want next to Luis Scola (or Patrick Patterson, if Scola is traded), but he would give the Rockets a very quick center who excels at scoring efficiently, a quality Daryl Morey would undoubtedly appreciate.
Aside from defensive issues and his age, the other problem with Nene would be how to acquire him. If Nene decides to leave Denver, he'll likely look for a contract starting at $10 million a year. However, as the Rockets already have committed $48 million next year to 11 players not including draft picks or free agents to be, signing Nene would require some interesting financial moves. The Rockets would have to convince the Nuggets to sign-and-trade him to Houston, and given the Nuggets' aversion to trading him to a conference rival, that might prove difficult to pull off.
Verdict: Not Worth It
Tyson Chandler, free agent: Chandler, like Nene, would present a number of issues related to his acquisition. After a huge comeback season, the Dallas Mavericks center will also likely demand seven figures as a starting point on a long term contract. Given the Rockets financial situation, it would be tough to swing.
However, unlike Nene, if the Rockets were willing to pay the price, Chandler could turn out to be a godsend to a defense that has so desperately needed a shot-blocking force for years. He struggled in Charlotte when asked to post up and score, but next to a scoring forward like Dirk this year, he excelled as he was just needed to play defense, secure rebounds, and finish alley-oops from Jason Kidd.
The only problem is Dallas, most notably Mark Cuban. After seeing that his squad has the potential to reach the NBA Finals as currently constituted, there is little to no chance that Cuban lets his stud center leave for greener pastures, especially not to a division rival in Houston. For that reason, bringing Chandler to Houston remains a pipe dream.
Verdict: Perfect fit, but not happening
DeAndre Jordan, Restricted Free Agent: For many, Jordan represents the ideal player for the Rockets to target when free agency begins. He's young, he's a good shot-blocker, and he might be available in a sign-and-trade as the Clippers are already paying Chris Kaman over $10 million a year to be, well, Chris Kaman. Jordan, a Houston native who attended Episcopal High School, has said that he would love to come back to his hometown, but, as has been the case with the others before him, there are problems with him.
Despite flashing some of the tools that had some scouts rating him as a top five draft prospect in the 2008 Draft, Jordan remains far from a complete player, lacking any semblance of an offensive game outside of the paint. He can make little hook shots if he gets the right position, but is a horrific free throw shooter and cannot make a jump shot.
Defensively, he grew up last season as he put himself in better position for blocks while still playing fundamental defense. He is not the stalwart on the block that Chuck Hayes is, but he'd be a definite upgrade on team defense, as he could help on penetration from wings much better than the height challenged Hayes.
Some will debate the merits of giving up assets and committing long term to a guy like Jordan after acquiring a similarly raw player in Hasheem Thabeet, but Jordan has proven himself over the last year to be a very good NBA center, something Thabeet hasn't done. If the Rockets are willing to give up an asset like Courtney Lee or a draft pick or two to make it happen, getting Jordan is possible, and he'd instantly provide the Rockets with a long term answer at the center position.
Verdict: Will be tough to get, but the Rockets' best option
Yao Ming, free agent: Here's where the debate gets really interesting. While few would argue that getting DeAndre Jordan for the right price would be great or that Tyson Chandler would be a great fit if we could pry him from Dallas, the topic of whether Yao should be brought back or not sparks incredible debate among Rockets fans. Some hope that he can regain his health and return to the dominant force that he was before a string of injuries while others just want to move on in a rebuilding phase.
After years joined at the hip to Yao because of a max contract extension he signed in September of 2005, the Rockets must finally make their own decision on him. Both sides have said they are amicable to an agreement, but until he signs his signature on a contract, it is impossible to tell whether he will be staying in Houston.
While the excitement of having the 7'6" center back again would undoubtedly help ticket sales, you have to wonder how much he has left after years of painful rehabilitation and horrific injuries. Even if he did come back, could he be counted on for more than 10 or 20 minutes a game? Would he be in and out of the lineup a la Tracy McGrady with various maladies? It is tough to say goodbye and I hope Yao can regain his form, but the Rockets should stay away.
Verdict: Time to Say Goodbye
Brad Miller, Houston Rockets: Don't worry, I'm just messing with you.
Verdict: Only value to the team is in his potential to rep the cornrows
Hasheem Thabeet, Houston Rockets: Like Yao, Thabeet inspires his fair share of debate among Rockets fans, with some thinking that his combination of size, athleticism, and a decent jump shot makes him more than an adequate center while others say that his inability to put it together in his first two years dooms his existence to one on the bench.
However, unlike Yao, it's time for the Rockets to give him a chance. While he was not a dominant force in the D-League, he showed that his offensive game has improved from the Jared Jeffries-esque levels that he showed off in Memphis. He flashed a nascent perimeter game, hitting face-up jumpers, and even made some nice finishes in the paint. He won't be confused for Hakeem Olajuwon any time soon, but he could thrive in a role off the bench for 20 minutes a game.
Verdict: Give him a chance, even if it's only to see what we have with him
Marc Gasol, restricted free agent: The odds are so laughably small that we can get him that I'm not going to even continue.
Verdict: Not happening
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Damn this is good
First time on this site, but dude this is great. Keep it up!
Thanks, Mom
Kidding, but seriously I appreciate it.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Dalembert
Was also a Free Agent this summer.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
He is
But he’s going to want to go to a contender. Celtics, Heat, LA, or even NY are likely destinations.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
jeesus, imagine heat using MLE to sign dalembert (assuming the mle exists in new CBA)
That would just make things even more rediculous than they currently are.
"Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy T, all up in that azz
by ShookednShanghaied11 on Jun 2, 2011 1:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Anthony's been pretty darn good for them this postseason
But Dalembert would be unfreakingbelievable.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We made a run at Fesenko last year as a restricted free agent. How about this year?
I’ve read a lot about him and his limiting factor seems to be his lack of competitiveness and his goofy personality.
April 1, 2011 Missed 1 game (headache).
March 28, 2011 Headache, day-to-day.
November 19, 2010 Missed 1 game (dizziness).
November 17, 2010 Dizziness, day-to-day.
November 6, 2010 Missed 2 games (gastrointestinal).
November 3, 2010 Gastrointestinal, day-to-day.
April 9, 2010 Missed 2 games (illness).
April 6, 2010 Illness, day-to-day.
March 24, 2010 Missed 1 game (stomach virus).
March 22, 2010 Stomach virus, day-to-day.
December 14, 2009 Missed 3 games (stomach virus).
December 9, 2009 Stomach virus, day-to-day.
November 28, 2009 Missed 1 game (stomach virus).
November 26, 2009 Stomach virus, day-to-day.
March 4, 2009 Flu, day-to-day.
February 17, 2009 Missed 1 game (stomach virus).
February 11, 2009 Stomach virus, day-to-day.
November 26, 2008 Missed 2 games (personal reasons).
November 22, 2008 Personal reasons, day-to-day.
November 21, 2008 Missed 6 games (personal reasons).
November 11, 2008 Personal reasons, day-to-day.
Sounds like a chronic case of the vodka virus.
Good news is that Sloan said he became more serious last year (only two “injuries” after November 2010) and he’s getting to the age when young men mature.
I hate myself for saying this, but since were rebuilding we need to sacrifice, let Chuck go and sign some projects with higher ceilings.
My problem with Fesenko isn't his inability to stay out on the court all year
It’s that he isn’t very good at basketball. He’s a hulking guy, but he’s not athletic, he’s not a good rebounder, he doesn’t move well, and he has no jumper or post game. We went after him to potentially be a value pick up as a backup, but especially after another disastrous year, it’s looking more and more like he’s not long for the NBA.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The injury history was pointing toward his indifference to his job as a basketball player.
If he becomes serious, I think he has the talent to be a starter in the league (he’s at least as athletic as a quarter of the starting centers in the league).
We offered him $4M/2 years last year and I think that is value. Assuming we can’t get Jordan or trade up for one of the three centers in the draft, I think he’s the next best choice and better than resigning Chuck.
nice work mr. boyd
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I wouldn't mind resigning Yao because:
- He won’t demand minutes.
- He’s good for revenue.
- He is a good role model for the young big men but won’t take their minutes
All of this assumes that he would sign a contract with unguaranteed second and third years. This would make him an incredible assest even if he went down again.
by willieboyd on Jun 2, 2011 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Would be awesome if Thabeet started.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
If he has a really good summer and is ready for extended minutes next year
I’d be ecstatic. Unlike Jordan and all the other guys on the list, he’d cost us nothing as he’s already a sunk cost. Anything we get from him is gravy.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice job Patrick
it’s definitely going to be interesting to see what happens. I picked Yao, but there’s also a decent chance for a trade. Also, Cousin is a guy worth mentioning, I think if he’s given the opportunity, he can be a pleasant surprise. As for Thabeet, right now it should be his job to lose and I am interested to see how his work this summer will translate to training camp.
Welcome to Houston Kevin McHale. Just remember "It was Minnesota" is no longer an excuse.
I don't know about Cousin
I think he can be a decent back up big man eventually, but his lack of athleticism is going to prevent him from being anything more than that. He’s pretty skilled up for a guy of his size, but he’s a pretty bad passer and isn’t a great finisher in the paint. Defensively, his lack of quickness makes him struggle against the better bigs in the NBA. He’s a nice player, but he has some pretty glaring limitations that make him unlikely to play big minutes.
I’m with willie, there shouldn’t be anyone with a “job to lose” except for perhaps Lowry and Martin. Thabeet has a good future in my opinion, but putting that much pressure on him is a bad idea.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I see you guys' point...
but when as of right now the only other competition is Brad Miller he needs to embrace the opportunity. Like you said, new coach and a clean slate should equal to a new beginning. At some point, his balls need to drop and he needs to prove his worth before this time next year. Or else I have a feeling his future may be done in Houston, possibly the NBA. When you’re entering your third season and still may not be “ready,” that’s crap. I don’t care who you are or who drafted you or who has coached you. At some point you have to let go of that pacifier and become a man and take responsibility. You don’t want to put any more “pressure” on him, why not? All he’s got to do is be somewhat of an impactful player defensively and he can have a role on this team. If that’s really too much to ask of him, then it’s time to cut ties with the team option. I realize there may be some learning curves, especially him grasping what an illegal defense is. But he has to show something and be somewhat productive this year or else I don’t see paying him any more and hoping he’s finally “Ready.”
Cousin will surprise you. I’m high on him for personal reasons, followed him closely at UH and in his first year put up 15, 8.6 while shooting over 52%. While I’m not totally in awe of those particular stats, his progress and development throughout the year was evident. What seemed to be a miniscule roster move for their D League playoffs may be something different. If he gets the opportunity, I believe people will be pleasantly surprised. Time will tell.
And also I go back to trades. I can see Gortat, Okafor, Brand (I know not a true C), Asik, and Kaman being traded. There’s probably a few others too. While it’s stupid to speculate on anything at this point, that may be a more viable option than over-paying a free agent. Personally I would Kaman and his big expiring contract for this time next year.
Welcome to Houston Kevin McHale. Just remember "It was Minnesota" is no longer an excuse.
My big men best and worst case scenarios
Best case (Scola is traded and we trade up for Kanter)
DeAndre Jordan (starter): 25 min
Patterson (starter): 30 min
Kanter: 20 min
Thabeet/Hill competition winner: 20 min
Yao: Spot duty/playoff secret weapon
Thabeet/Hill competition loser: “Brian Cook”
Worst case
Thabeet/Fesenko/Hill competition winner (starter): 20 min.
Scola (starter): 30 min.
Patterson: 25 min.
Thabeet/Fesenko/Hill competition #2: 20 min.
Yao: Spot duty
Thabeet/Fesenko/Hill competition loser: “Brian Cook”
Damn, a big man rotation of Jordan, Patterson, and Kanter sure is enticing. If we could pull that off, we’d be looking very good for the future in the front court. I just don’t know how we could make it happen without trading away one of our important guards.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Big men > Wings
Look at the available wings: Ellis, Iggy, Granger, etc.
Each of those has significant issues though
Ellis is a shot-happy, undersized 2-guard who isn’t very efficient, Iggy has a massive contract, and Granger has really taken steps back the last 2 years and is taking way too many shots. You have to pay each of those guys more than $10 million a year and they wouldn’t give you enough production to justify that. That’s why they’re available.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention that we could have a hole in our rotation
Unless Terrence Williams steps up, trading either Lee or Martin will put a big hole in our rotation. Placing that much stock in Williams, an unproven player, would be a bad idea.
We have holes, that's why we're rebuilding.
Once we get a 3/4 player big man rotation set, the little guys will fill in.
We aren’t going to set the other guys and then fill in the rest unless we want to compete with Miami and New York.
Just look how long it took Dallas to finally get a legit big guy and what happened when they finally did.
We already have that
Scola + Patterson + Hayes + Hill/Thabeet
You might quibble with my calling Hayes a bigman, but even though he’s not a center, he is definitely a power forward.
Honestly I’d like to see us pick up a center, maybe Jordan, Chandler if we got super super lucky. It’s probably not worth it though, and definitely not worth it until we see how Hill and Thabeet are doing after the summer.
That all being said
I would be extremely surprised if the organization did anything other than start Hayes at the 5 again.
I think he almost certainly will
I think the Rockets would be pretty dumb not to resign him after his improvement at the end of last season.
I think we will sign Hayes
and do a trade of Scola and our two picks to get Kanter. We will resign Yao, trade Miller for a case of Gatorade, and let Thabeet learn to play in the D league for another year.
Or we will go after Kaman or Pryzbilla. Both will give McHale what he wants and that is defense and rebounding. Jordan wil be on a short leash because he really needs to get more consistent.
Another big question mark is T-Will. Is he a Von Wafer with better D?
Not sure he got enough time to show us last year. But he did not run the offense as instructed, took some bad shots and gave RA no reason to want to put him on the floor.
Yeah they have holes, but they are significantly better at their positions than any of the available big men.
I would call those wings top 15; what top 15 bigs are available?
For a different perspective, look at our wings:
Martin (low draft pick, traded for him cheaply)
Bud (2nd round pick)
Lee (Low 12t rounder, traded for him cheaply)
Williams (Traded for him cheaply)
The point is starter level big men create feeding frenzies whereas starter level wings can often be had below cost.
Sorry forgot the draft.
How many legit wings are at #14 vs. big men?
Marc Gasol would be greeeeat
by basketball is cool on Jun 2, 2011 4:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
File that away in the pipe dream category
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No way Gasol is gonna leave after Memphis's postseason
Honestly, Memphis could be the team to beat next year, given how incredibly well Randolph was playing at the end of the year.
It all depends on how Gay adjusts to what Memphis has been running during the end of the year
If he can buy in and play tough defense, pick his spots more as a scorer, and be a weapon for them, they could be really scary next year. With the signings and draft picks they’ve made, they’re steadily building a pretty strong bench after being one of the worst over the last few years.
by Patrick Harrel on Jun 2, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Their starting line-up could be totally nuts
Before, the weak point was really Sam Young at SF. With Gay in they could completely dominate.
All this aside, Williams could be an option in our rotation if we trade Martin or Lee. His numbers aren’t bad, as far as bench players go. Inconsistent, but occasionally very good.
Right now
It is just too hard to predict anything at all in the NBA.
Me against the world is a mismatch in my favor.
Chuck Hayes, Damnit.
"You know how Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well, mine are
even worse! " ~Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes
by TheChuckwagonisrolling on Jun 2, 2011 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
lockout - season shorten to 48 games
all the worthwhile C’s are now overpriced and I can’t see the point in paying someone other than Gasol anything. We have a new coach and I think Gasol fits best but as stated the probability is highly unlikely. I like these guys but I feel funny about having to say Chuck and Bud might be starting again……. I actually hate saying it.
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The only way they will bring in an impactful C is through a trade.
Kaman
Okafor
Speights (can play C)
Gortat
Asik
Jefferson
I could also see them go cheap and sign somone like Joey Dorsey. This is all assuming Yao is not re-signed.
Welcome to Houston Kevin McHale. Just remember "It was Minnesota" is no longer an excuse.
Probably could get...
Biedrins for cheap. His contract is pretty bad and he’s injury prone, but he still has a lot of upside.
I still wouldn’t mind seeing a veteran like Nazr Muhammad or Jason Collins. Guys like this provide depth, height, and experience to the bench while giving us the flexibility to provide minutes for the young guys and/or Yao.
A center lineup of Muhammad/Hayes/Thabeet/Yao is infinitely better and deeper than Hayes/Miller/Thabeet, imo.
And yeah, good job with this post.

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