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Report: NBA Sets Pre-Season Doomsday For September 15

The NBA is on thin ice to exist in 2011. I think it's thinner than some believe, but I'm only relying on a hunch. I'd like to extend that hunch beyond plain guessing, but sadly, the NBA hasn't given us anything to work with.

Count me in the crowd that considers a half-season to be the best bet. As Kelly Dwyer noted this morning, neither side has made significant progress. Nothing has gotten done. Here we are, hoping for these reportedly "heated discussions" to take form on paper, and instead we get this saliva wad from Maurice Evans:

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Via ProBasketballTalk:

"The best word I can use is generic. We've just been going through the motions. We've been meeting really often with the exception of this month. For the past two years we've been meeting and the owners are kind of disingenuous right now with their offers. Hopefully, at some point, they firm up a little bit and give us something to work with."

The players don't appear phased or threatened, nor do the owners. That's bad news for the fans, the biggest losers in this situation. We're not losing money, but we're losing stability. We're losing our lifestyle and our routine. And how rotten is that?

Now, it appears we have a date, a deadline until we're pressed to consider turning to hockey for help before ultimately choosing against it because it has far too many unpronounceable Russian names.

HoopsWorld's Steve Kyler has the details:

League sources have pegged September 15th as the last possible date to reach a deal before Training Camps and Pre-season games are likely scrubbed. Sources have also said that if even one Pre-season game is lost, the economic impact would be the same as if all the preseason games are lost. It would be a trigger a point in which league advertisers and sponsors could and would start pulling back and season ticketholders would likely start asking for refunds.

September 15. That's two weeks. Good luck with that, NBA.

Is this pre-season doomsday, or regular season doomsday? Depends. The pre-season absolutely matters, however meaningless it is for the casual fan. Training camp matters, too. Each program is a necessary preparation tool, for players, coaches and just about everybody involved. You don't just skip everything.

I'm not insinuating that the entire year could be lost if September 15 comes and goes. But let's face it: if talks remain stale for the next few days, I'll put money on lost regular season games. Teams will need time to get their swag together. The regular season will require a delay, unless you're looking to watch some of the worst professional basketball in years.

Neither side appears to be worried about missing games. As Kurt Helin writes for PBT, they're more concerned with PR, which is incredibly stupid. Nobody cares who wins between the owners and players. People want basketball. And if there is no basketball for an extended period, there won't be a winner and a loser. The NBA -- made up of the owners and the players association -- will lose, period.

But if the NBA loses, we suffer. That's the crime of this lockout. It's a cruel world sometimes.

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No big news here…

… it’s the same as in pro baseball, football, and hockey.

The millionaire players and the billionaire owners love money the most.

Any love for the actual fans who are making them all rich is not that important to them because they assume (rightfully so, unfortunately) that the majority of the fans will eventually return to watching…

I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...

by steeler-hater on Aug 29, 2011 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice quote, Maurice...

…:“Hopefully, at some point, they…give us something to work with.”

Hey, Maurice, they gave you something to work with at the end of June, when the owners offered a hard cap of $61 million to be phased in over 2 years. In case your calculator isn’t handy, I’ll do the math for you; that would have been an AVERAGE SALARY OF OVER $4 MILLION PER YEAR. GUARANTEED MONEY. GOOD LUCK GETTING THAT DEAL AGAIN.

Go ahead with all of the “you’re spouting too much venom” cracks. Basically, Maurice has 2 choices at this point; play in China, or see if Jiffy Lube is still hiring. I’m guessing the latter won’t work out too well come December when the payments on the Bentley are due and these guys are already broke from pissing their money away.

Also, I love how in these labor disputes these fringe guys who are rarely heard from get their 15 minutes of fame. I seriously forgot this guy was still in the league. NBA’s version of Mike Vrabel.

by cnyroxfan on Aug 29, 2011 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

So is your point

that a hard cap of $61 would actually be a good deal for the players to take? I don’t think it is compared to the previous one.

Or is the idea that $4 million is more than enough money for anyone? By that logic, the players should be content with a hard cap of $15 million because that would mean an average salary of a MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR GUARANTEED MONEY!!!

by jack_ on Aug 30, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would have been the best deal they could get

Even the biggest union muilitant out there among the players knows their gonna have to take a hit and make some kind of money concessions. This would have preserved most of the current system (guaranteed contracts) and kept a STRONG average salary. I honestly think if the players think they are gonna do better than this, they are very naive. If Billy Hunter pulls that off, the union should erect a statue of him.`

by cnyroxfan on Aug 31, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would just like to say

I’m using the new SBN iPhone app and it is sweet.

That’s all I have to say about that.

by basketball is cool on Aug 30, 2011 3:53 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

rec'd for this sentence:

“Now, it appears we have a date, a deadline until we’re pressed to consider turning to hockey for help before ultimately choosing against it because it has far too many unpronounceable Russian names.”

by sohum on Aug 30, 2011 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm really not sure how a "drop dead" date helps things.

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by Xiane on Aug 30, 2011 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

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