Game 10 Preview: Houston Rockets vs. San Antonio Spurs
by ak2themax on Jan 11, 2012 9:01 AM CST
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The Rockets played an ugly game last night. It's hard to have that in my mind when I predict matchups and whatnot. Lowry is still a good point guard, Scola was due for a bad game (like, 4 years due), and K-Mart is making my ball-handling and court awareness look decent.
Of course, this is a back-to-back for the Rockets, as they travel to San Antonio to take on the Spurs, who have probably had three days off to get in extra practice and preparation in advance of the Rockets trip.
Wait.
The Spurs played last night!? Are you serious? And when we played Charlotte they were on a back-to-back too??? This has got to be the first time this has happened ever. Does David Stern know about this? Because if he doesn't don't be surprised to wake up tomorrow and find out that this schedule has been vetoed and the Rockets will have to face the Heat and Thunder every game with no breaks ever. So, mum's the word, okay?
Oh yeah, the Spurs lost Manu for a while. He's out again tonight. And no "Serves him right for what he did to AB last year" crap. Seriously, you guys. It's stupid. Manu is one of the most entertaining players in the league and I'm glad he's not playing because he can absolutely torch us, but not because he's getting some kind of karmic retribution. /endofrant
Onto the matchups!
Matchups:
PG: Kyle Lowry vs. Tony Parker:
Tony Parker is good, and stuff.
Kyle Lowry is also good, and stuff. And after that performance last night he doesn't get the advantage, though he's the better player right now overall.
Oh, and Lowry and Parker must dominate Fisher. Pounding The Rock fans will get this one.
Advantage: Even
SG: Kevin Martin vs. Gary Neal:
I'm getting tired of this, K-Mart. That game was awful last night. Sure, you've had clunkers in the past. We've all seen them. Normally, it's no thang, but right now it is certainly a thang. Though the flu is a valid excuse I guess.
Neal went 5-9 from the field last night. That's enough to make this even, despite Martin's ability advantage.
Ugh.
Kawhi Leonard gets a mention here because he's going to play a lot either in this slot or the three.
Advantage: Even
SF: Chandler Parsons vs. Richard Jefferson:
After the draft, Tom mentioned that Parsons would have to convince people that he wasn't Chase Budinger 2.0. Well, so far he's failing. Miserably. And I couldn't be happier, since Chase Budinger is trying to convince me that he's Brian Cook 0.5.
Jefferson was terrible against the Rockets in Houston. I expect him to play a lot better tonight. Sorry rookie, but you have to earn these advantages.
Advantage: Spurs
PF: Luis Scola vs. Tim Duncan:
Duncan went 20/8/7/3 last night on 9-12 shooting. Yeah, I head somewhere that he's good. Can't remember where, though.
Scola, you get one. That's it. I expect a bounceback game from you. Or else.
You know it's bad when I start talking directly to players instead of talking about them. Only K-Mart used to get that treatment due to favoritism. Now he's getting it out of disgust. Don't join him Luis. Don't you dare.
Advantage: Even
C: Jordan Hill vs. DeJuan Blair:
Do I expect Blair to dominate inside like he always does against us? Yes, I do.
Do I expect Jordan Hill to give us the same performance he gave he gave us last night? No, I do not. But it's progress. Real progress. I'm impressed, even though Dalembert is starting, he was the real center for the Rockets last night.
Advantage: Spurs
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Bench:
Spurs: Tiago Splitter, Kawhi Leonard, Matt Bonner, James Anderson, T.J. Ford, Daniel Green
Rockets: Goran Dragic, Chase Budinger, Terrence Williams, Samuel Dalembert, Patrick Patterson
Advantage: Rockets, but it's really close
Injuries:
Spurs: Manu Ginobili
Rockets:Courtney Lee
Prediction: Spurs 105-98
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Take what I say for a grain of salt.
Oh yeah, the Spurs lost Manu for a while. He’s out again tonight. And no “Serves him right for what he did to AB last year” crap. Seriously, you guys. It’s stupid. Manu is one of the most entertaining players in the league and I’m glad he’s not playing because he can absolutely torch us, but not because he’s getting some kind of karmic retribution. /endofrant
Rec for that ^
I’m going all in on the domination that The Spurs gave my Mavericks some days ago. Even without Manu, they can still shoot the ball and get decent paint production with Dejuan and Duncan. The Rockets defense is pretty bad, we can all see that, with these shooters on the outsides for them, I’m scared that they will put up a good amount of points for themselves.
Spurs 103 – Rockets 96
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
awww c'mon
Advantages: pg: rockets sg: rockets sf: even pf: even c: daly v Blair even
We’ve already beaten the Spurs and they had Manu and we didn’t have Patterson.
Houston 102-90
(last time I made a prediction we lost so scratch all that)
by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Respectively, Lowey over Parker? No way.
How is that possibly even? Im telling you early that Parker, All star, Finals MVP, goes off tonight
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll give you RJ
But I believe Lowry is the best rebounding pg and 2nd best assist man in the league THIS YEAR. Parker is nice, but Lowry is better.
by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 11, 2012 11:45 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Parker is overrated because of the team he is on.
He has never been an elite PG and never will be. He has 3 rings and a finals MVP, yes. But there have always been much better PG’s that do everything better than he does. I bet you if you put Lowry on those teams they would be better.
I hate david stern!
by batman713 on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT!??? Tony has averaged 22 points a season in his career leading the Spurs. lowry never broke 15 points
Parker has 150 points THIS season. Lowry hasnt broken 100 yet.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
150 points?
You guys have played 10 games. (lol come on?) and Lowry has only played in 7 due to an injury.
Besides, he said Lowry has been better this year. The truth is, he has been a lot better this year. Lowry is averaging close to a triple double this year. he is scoring as much as Parker, and he is rebounding on another level. He is the better passer, averaging close to 10 assist per. It’s not even close right now, Lowry is way better.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tony_parker/career_stats.html
143 points if you dont believe me. Ask the nba above
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Uh Yeah, I believed you.
But that means absolutely shit. He has played in 3 more games than Lowry. They are averaging the same amount of PPG.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Read above :-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would take TJ ford over Lowry.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well
Then you would be an idiot sir.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
by darwithabar on Jan 11, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bwahahahahahaha @spurs yoda
I semi like the spurs and I respect the hell out of Pop and Tim but its kinda sad that you won’t give Lowry his props. Picking TJ Ford over Lowry because he went to UT is just plain insane. That’s like saying Chandler Parsons is better than Jefferson because he scored 20 points yesterday and RJ hasn’t cracked 20 this season.
by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 11, 2012 3:04 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
And you’d be really, really wrong. Also, that’s kind of inflamatory. You know better SY.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
My opinion though. Being honest, not malicous.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's an incredibly retarded opinoin.
Sorry for being vulgar but there really isnt a better term.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
TJ has a better FG percentage this season the Lowery. I actually feel he is a better distributer. Look what he did during our huge comeback against GS and say im crazy.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I dont need to.
Because its crazy. TJ Ford isnt better than Parker right? well how could he be better than Lowry?
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Because they both are
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Troll somewhere else bro.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Well, you can think that
Im sure there is 4 or 5 more people in the world that think that too. All with some sort of mental disability.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Now your getting personal. No need for that. Just talking about thoughts an stats. Check the testosterone at the door. :-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm with you on Parker being better than Lowry
I’m not really in agreement, but it’s a reasonable position.
Comparing Lowry and Ford is a joke, however. Lowry is outplaying Ford in every way. Lowry’s shooting percentages are down, but if you actually look at true shooting and effective field goal percentages, Lowry is far and away the better shooter. And he’s shouldering a much higher number of shots.
As far as being a “distributer,” Lowry’s assist percentage this year is an insane jump, but it seems totally believable to anyone who watches him. His numbers went up because the offense is now running through him, while the old system was based around ball movement. Ford’s numbers are helped by playing on what is the best offensive team in basketball right now. He has players who finish the shots they’re given — more than the Rockets do.
Lowry’s rebounding numbers are crazy right now, too, and likely unsustainable, but it’s not that insane of a leap. He’ll come down, but not by that much.
My opinion? It’s trollish behaviour. If someone was to go over to PTR and say that they’d take their back-up PG over Tony, everyone would call “DUCK!”
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
*behavior
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Edg, chill. I went to UT when Ford was there. I follow him diligently, and im not a believer in Lowry yet, but TJ has resurrected his career in SA. Im not dropping curse bombs or anything. Im talking stats. Nothing more,
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Except for when the stats don't work in your favor
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Shhh, don't pop his bubble.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
What stats have i disagreed with? What lowry has played well rebounding and assists the first ten games. How have i not agreed with that? What bubble burst? I agree with facts and stats.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There is not a single stat that Parker or Ford is better than Lowry in
I even posted them below and its the only post you havent commented on
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Scoring? Point totals? Those kind of count. Even this season too.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, they dont by themselves.
What if one guy takes 50 more shots? Or 100? Or 500?
What if one guy plays way more games?
They actually mean nothing at all. Unless you’re justing digging to find whatever stat you can.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
total points make no sense over such a small period of play
i mean, by that token dj augustin far and away blows parker out of the water.
DJ Augustin > Parker
by sohum on Jan 11, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on man. It’s one thing to say that Parker is better than Lowry. But to say that Ford is better than him is to try to get these guys riled up.
Ford “resurrected” his career as a 15 MPG back up. Lowry is averaging 14 points and 10 assists while playing good defense (I’m leaving the crazy rebounding numbers aside), after averaging 13.5 points and almost 7 assists last season.
I know you are not a troll and I know you know basketball, so I don’t get why you would said that, other than as a joke. Wouldn’t it be better to just dropped the debate altogether at this point?
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Thats not nice. Really? I havent personally said anything about you.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's cool.
You’re still saying a lot of dumb shit.
by Only_A_Lad on Jan 11, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The funny thing is
Those rebounding numbers are not crazy for him. They wont raise, but he will average 6 a game this year.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
No less than 5
Just to give myself a cushion on that one. lol
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
He's grabbing about 75% more of the available rebounds
Usually sits at around 10-12% total rebounding; currently at 19%. Probably unsustainable, but then again maybe not.
Ok. The Ford thing was over the top. I am a believe in him being one of the top backups this season though.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with that. Now let’s start the Ford vs Dragic back up PG debate! JK :)
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Lol. I like it!!!!
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 5:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yoda.....
let’s add Lowry’s totals tonight, points, assists, and rebounds and compare that to Parker’s total numbers ok… If Parker has more, I will put up a spurs logo as my avatar until they play agains on the 21st.. Would you be willing to do the same? Oh and if popapimple “rests” Parker, no excuses, neither would be getting hurt in the first minute.. Fair deal?
If you can feel them, they are real.
Ok
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
why do you come post up
after the game? if you’re so “confident” then where were you… TP is an elite scorer, that is all. He plays the pick and roll as good as CP3… But Lowry is a better passer, rebounder, defender, and team leader. At this point, Lowry is better.
If you can feel them, they are real.
no, that's like
me taking Houston -7 and the under after the game is decided. I offered this hours before the game, you agree after the fact where Parker had a nice game.. doesn’t work like that chief..
If you can feel them, they are real.
Time for an avatar change, buddy
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Don't feed the trolls
Check out The Dream Shake.
by Patrick Harrel on Jan 11, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Also, please google tony parker highligts and 2007 tony parker finals higlights and then ask if hes elite or not.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol
Come on, nobody cares about what happened 5 years ago. Everyone knows he was an elite player back then. He hasn’t been lately, but I imagine the injury may have caused him to regress as a scorer. Give it up, he said Lowry has been playing better this year. He was generous for putting even anyways, Lowry is literally playing better than Parker at everything besides scoring.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
5 years ago, who went to the All Star game, LAST YEAR???? A frenchman by the name of Tony Parker.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Jameer Nelson was in one of those
just sayin
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Nelson has been good enough. Lowry hasnt. Look at the stats
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's averaging 14ppg, 10 assists, 7 rebounds
There’s some stats for ya. By the way…what happened in the first game this season against the Spurs? Lowry put up 16 with 9 rebounds and 8 assists.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Nelson didn't have numbers like that
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
ITS only ten games still. I will bet you 100 bucks he doesnt beat Nelsons stats when he was an All star at the end of the year.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You're a dip shit dude
Lowry had better numbers last year.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
by darwithabar on Jan 11, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Coming off the bench and never starting before also.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
I mean
He literally had more Points, more assists, more rebounds, more blocks, more steals.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
The worst part is he will be him in PPG
He is gonna raise his PPG as the season goes on.
This is a classic case of an opposing teams fan, not really knowing anything about the guy. He probably remenbers his days in Memphis and early days in Houston and thinks thats the same player. The facts are, he is not. He is on his way, thats for sure. He will probably make his first of many All Star games this season.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Lowry caught up to Parker last season
was probably better than him the 2nd part of last season.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Lowry was one of the best PGs in the 2nd half of the season.
He won player of the month I am pretty sure.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
And homer biased isnt involved here at all. Only houston is right about this, not stats. Why didnt i see that earlier.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The stats you're trying to use are, frankly, fucking dumb
Looking at points per game, single-game highs, etc. doesn’t tell you much. Please learn something about basketball statistics before trying to front.
Chill. I just have been talk points per year. Average per year mostly. Which is a pretty significant stats.
I apologize about the Ford comment. I am big on him this year as a backup though. You have to admitt that if you asked 100 people outside Texas in the nba which PGthey prep more for and fear, 99 times it would be Tony Parker.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
ell that statement is just wrong
Msybe with both in their prime but parker is not. Lowry has got a ton of praise this year. Ive heard several ppl say him and Lamarcus Aldridge are the next two young players to take the next step. So yeah, if you asked 100 casual fans if they would rather have Lowry or Parker, they would probably say Parker. They would say tracy Mcgrady as well. If you asked 100 NBA executives, Most would say Lowry because of his production being better and his age, contract, etc.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Mgrady now or 2002?
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 5:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
McGrady now
Just because we know he isnt good anymore, the casual fans that watch 2 NBA games a year, still think he is an All state. I mean, he just was two years back.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Hold on
You’re saying the stats show Lowry is not as good as Parker, ford, and Nelson right now? That’s is your stance right?
PPG-Assists-Rebounds
Lowry-14.0-9.7-6.9 PER-23.44
Parker-14.3-7.2-2.4 PER-18.27
Nelson- 6.8-5.4-2.0 PER-7.82
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Than Nelsons all star year? Um no. Post the stats than. Funny how you didnt.
Nelson averaged what 17-18 a game that year. Lowry has never even broke 15 ppg average.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Are ppg the only stats that matter?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Kind of a big factor. Career average since 06 isnt even in double digits.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is unbearable
I dont know why I feel obligated to respond. He didnt start until last year and didnt even start all of it.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
To be honest. Im sorry if i have angered any one. I was just stating a case about Parker. The Ford thing was over the top, and i apologize.
Please know I only like to have fun conversations about sports and stats. Never any malice in my points or personal jabs. All in good conversation. Hope for a good game, i will be 6th row tonight:-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I dont think anyone is personally offended
I know im not. We know what we have in Lowry and were just glad to have a player like him, especially at his age.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Please know I only like to have fun conversations about sports and stats
Well, you suck at statistical talk, so stop.
How? Example? Stats striaght off nba.com. I admit Lowry has done welll in apg and rpg, i dont dismiss it, but dont buy into it as consistant. That is my point. :-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's exactly it
You’re talking about the most basic shit and you’re misusing even that. Seriously, this is like arguing about pitcher wins in baseball.
Hate to tell you this...
But Assists Per Game matter just as much as points per game for a PG.
Huge, but they are close and Parker is consistant.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 5:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So is Lowry
They’re right though. You look at the most basic stats. you also only point out points because thats the only thing Parker is better than Lowry at.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
He probably won't beat him in ppg
but will have better rebounding numbers and assists.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Agree, but i bet the assists will be closer than you think
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your rounding. His rebounds are impressive, in 10 games. No way it ever reaches doubke digits for the yera at 6 feet.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's "you're"
and you’d have to round up by 5 whole numbers to get Parker’s numbers up.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
Really? Gramtically correct on a blog? From my phone. Please cut me alittle slack via mobile.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At 6 feet?
Rajon Rondo is 6-1 and Chris Paul is 6-0
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Take away Chris Paul didn't mean to put him in there.
Rajon Rondo is a very good rebounder though.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
PPG-Assists-Rebounds
14.0-9.7-6.9 PER-23.44
14.3-7.2-2.4 PER-18.27
6.8-5.4-2.0 PER-7.82
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Lets play the matching games.
Guess which one is the best by a wide margin, remember which side of this debate im on, and guess who it is.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
And this doesnt even factor in the fact that Lowry is a lot better defender
And is considered by many to be the one of the 2 or 3 best defensive PGs.
The truth is, it could be argued that Lowry is the best PG in the league right now, if we were going by straight numbers.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Lowrys rebounds will drop significantly by years end. You know it. Its been ten games.
Regaurdless, Lowry would even get you a first round pick. I understand you like the home team, but Parker is a top PG. Lowrys trophy case < Parkers trophy case. Parkers still in his prime, his 20s too.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's funny "Parker is in his prime"
Lowry ISN’T in his prime and he’s still better than Parker this year.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Ha! Wait until the Seasons over.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The good thing is, we dont have to
Because we’re only talking about right now. Lowry has been significantly better so far. Even is Lowry regressed alittle, he would still be playing better.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Tony still is averaging more points…..im perfectly ok with letting him play smart in the backcourt. Let the 3-5 get the rebounds.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah 0.3 more LOL
On 2 more shots a game. He is shooting a lower % and his true shooting % is even lower. But yeah, he is averaging more points. Lowery just averages 3 more assists, and 5 more RBs a game.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Im like the Kyle Lowry of debating
And you’re like the TJ Ford. Im done buddy, it’s been something.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Lol. Still a better percentage. I didnt lie about it. :-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dude
Lowry averaged 6 rpg last season. Please stop it, for your sake.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
And Parker averaged 17 points. His record is 55 in one game. The record at the target center TO THIS DAY. Whats Lowrys record. I bet hes never even broke 40.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What is youre point?
Parker isnt averaging that this year and even if every stat stayed the same, but Parker was scoring 17 ppg, nobody would consider that better than Lowrys line. And a single game high means even less.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
The All Star game means nothing to me
I can look at the stats, the player effcientcy rating and tell Lowry is a lot better player this year.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
I agree. Finals mvp trophy and June is what counts
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 3:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I’m convinced you’re just not educated enough to really hold a conversation. Nobody has ever argued that Lowry has a better resume then Tony Parker. These stupid little post like this are nothing but you being back into a corner, and trying to fire your way out.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Ummmmm every post you and others have been saying Lowry is a better pg. Whats the deference?
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually
the trophy only counts when discussing a specific team. Tony Parker may have contributed to obtaining those trophies, but he did not do it by himself. Put him on the Bobcats all of these years. Does he have those trophies? Really?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Cant answer that. No one can
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 4:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You could
if you use Kant’s Transcendental Method to examine the objective stats and follow it back to the unknown conclusion. However, you successfully danced around the point that trophies mean absolutely shit for the sake of argument about which player is a better quality player. If that was the case, then Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino. Just as we can never know the results of the above scenario, we can also assume we could never know if you injected Lowry at his prime in Tony’s position if the results would be the same. Since we cannot prove either way, trophies mean shit. Arguing for a team? Perfectly fine.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
or
You could use the Williams James theory of mutlidimensional universes or The multiverse (or meta-universe, metaverse) is the hypothetical set of multiple possible universes (including the historical universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists and can exist: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them. Then in that instance you could say that I am better than Lowry, because in an infite amount of universe everything is possible.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Everyone knows he was an elite player back then."
Well, apparently not.
A few posts up in this thread:
“He has never been an elite PG and never will be.”
well thats their issue
Idk what to say to them either. It can definitly be argued he hasnt played elite lately, but no question he had an amazing run in 2005 all the way to 2010. Part of his slip may have ben people aging around him. Either way he was an elite player from 2004ish to 2010.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Lol also, Lowry has only broke 1000 points once. Parker has done it every year except twice. Once because he was a rookie and avery johnson was still playing. the other becuase he was injured for a third of it, but still got 894, which is above Lowrys average.
Tony Parkers best year 1,581 points. lowrys only time breaking 1000 was 1,011 points.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You understand Parker is 5 years older than Lowry
Has started 743 games compared to Lowry’s 108. Lowry didnt get a shot until last season, and since then he hasnt looked back.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
He started last year and was 345-809 his best. Scoring 1011 points.
Parker was last year 555 -1069 fgs. 1368 points. Not his best, but better than Lowry.
No one can say Lowry is better than parker. He might have peak games, but Parker is a mutliple All Star, even last year All Star, and Finals mvp.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Is Lowry a for sure better scorer than Parker?
no, but at times can be better. Lowry is a better all around player though.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
Get your head out of the past.
Right now, Lowry is the better player, he’s better on defense, a much better shooter, and is a top NBA passer.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Why do you keep posting point totals?
They mean exactly nothing.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
lowry is better than parker
omg, i think i broke the internet by saying that
I dont think he is overrated
Everyone who knows anything about basketball knows he isnt the same player anymore.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
Also. Nba 3 pt leaders. #1 Ray Allen. #2 Richard Jefferson
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's "with a grain of salt"
Not “for a grain of salt”.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Also I'm not sure what you were using the expression for.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
I'm basing everything off of one game that wasn't against the rockets
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
by OJ ATM on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I didn't see that.
My bad.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
This is a tough one to pick
could go either way. I’ll be glad if I’m wrong though…Spurs win 101-98
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 9:40 AM CST reply actions
FUCK MANU!
He’s a dirty player who under cuts shooters for no reason.
If we have the same lineup as last night i like our chances. Rockets win 98-93.
by Texas08 on Jan 11, 2012 9:49 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Respectively, Dirty how? The guy signs every auto graph and spends more time at the childrens hospital then any nba player.
He is good on both sides of the court and has won more international basketball awards across the board than anyone. Teams dislike him becuase he has always given the spurs the extra edge. I understand people associate him with flopping, but i havent seen an example of this from him in years. (im open to evidence to the contray. I have seen every game in the last 12 years striaght.) Chris bosh and Robert Horry have been by far the worst floppers in history IMO.
But this is going far saying that Manu is dirty without a fact to back it up. I have a lot of respect for this man on and off the court.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I respect very few people I don't personally know
He could go home after the hospital visit and joke about sick kids for all WE know. Anyway, I think the guy is pretty good and busts his ass for the most part. Does he whine to the refs alot? Definitely. Not near as much as most Lakers though.
Perhaps our definition of flop is different. I say flopping is “selling” a possible foul to the ref by overexaggerating the instance. All players do it, and mind you I haven’t watched every Spurs game for the past 12 years, but the guy flops. But, so do alot of NBA players.
I think what it comes down to is that he has a face that I would love to punch when I watch him on the court. I literally want to reach through and break his big ass nose. Justification? Don’t need one. I’m a dude and we can like or dislike shit just because.
On a side note, I am not sure how Spurs fans feel about Horry, but talking shit about that dude around here is unsafe man. Especially if Dave sees it.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Im actually friends with Horry. He lives here, and we joke about his flop with Carlos Boozer in the 2007 or 2008 WCF all the time.
Also, Manu why hate manu? I hate Eli Manning for example. He hypes himself up, cried while being drafted to san diego, thinks hes as good as brady…. I can go on, but i have reasons for hate. Seperates us from the animals.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i hate ginobili
because he undercut aaron brooks on a freaking half-court shot, trying to take a charge, thus causing brooks to injure his ankle and probably altering his career significantly.
there was no need for ginobili to do this since it was a half-court shot, and had a low probability of going in, anyway. instead, ginobili tried to take a flop.
Hmmmm dont remember this. There a youtube video?
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not saying it didnt happen.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Found it. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAYDVDcJ4jQM&v=AYDVDcJ4jQM&gl=US
You cant really say stepping in for a charge is dirty. If he robert horry hip checked, then i agree. But manu try to make a legitamate defensive play and brooks foot clipping manus on the landing is unfortunate..
Now the Mavericks after breaking Manus nose in an early playoff game then Najera clothes lining manu, is a dirt foul. Found here http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJu59AaItDyw&v=Ju59AaItDyw&gl=US
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
dude look at the clock
trying to take a charge on a nearly inconsequential play when the clock is running out from half court is dirty
Animals are different than humans because
they have no reason for the hating they do? They actually have zero in the way of human emotional capability, due to them being animals. There are also other subtle differences.. Your thinly veiled attempt at an insult is illogical. However, I am in agreement with Sohum. I don’t like the guy alot because of the cheap shot on AB. Also, I don’t like him because he plays for a rival. I think the guy really talented and I respect his game, just not him. Also, if you fully read my post I also listed other reasons I don’t like him. Like he flops, cries to the refs more than the average player, etc.
I don’t actually know Manu. He only exists in my world for entertainment. I could care less about the guy. However, my observations are what they are. They are no more bias one way than yours is the other.
And wow, you and Horry hang out?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Signing autographs has nothing to do with being a dirty player.
Please keep personal shit and basketball shit separate. He IS a dirty player regardless of what he does OFF THE COURT. Just like if I beat my wife but I donate millions to a family that needs it for their sick child, does that make me any less of a low life and punk? NO IT DOES NOT!
I hate david stern!
Two words, Michael Vick. (and im and eagles fan)
The only point im trying to establish is charatcer credibility. For example. He never has dirty fouls. Jason Terry on the other hand used to shove him out of bounds, but manu never fought back….except inperformance. I sat baseline one game when Terry just threw him out and got a flagrant. Terry tried to cover it up and help him up. Manus only response was, “please dont touch me”. Then he pulled himself up.
You say hes a dirty player, and i only kindly ask for reasoning or justification for that statement. Thank you.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ginobili puts his hands wherever he wants on defense
the dude straight up hits people in the face and lower body all the time. And we all know about his flopping. I wouldn’t say he’s really dirty, he just needs to own up to the fouls rather than putting his hands up and reacting like he didn’t just slap a dude’s wrist to try and steal the ball.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
I actually feels he owns up to his fouls. He will raise his hand often when he makes a foul, but who isnt often frustrated with a refs call. I played ball in high school and college. Everyone gets frustrated. I got a lot of bs over the back calls when i was in position. Just saying.
Im still trying to understand the f bomb and saying hes dirt. For example. I greatly admire K mart, Scola, and wanted the Spurs to sign dalmbert.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't drop the f bomb, that was someone else
a lot of people feel Ginobili is dirty though. Not just here but around the league. Fair or not that’s how it is. I personally don’t think he’s in the Bowen territory or anything, he just gets on peoples nerves. We all know he’s legit though, just ask Courtney Lee.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Please know I was quoting Texas08 not you. I understand people reflect that Manu is dirty, but i feel that his skill to big talk ratio is second only to Tim Duncan. Could you image how much more hype and indorsement Tim would have got with having a big mouth?? But thats why we like Tim and Manu. 4 time champs, but are more humble then you can imagine. Perhaps his skill and little talk frustrates because he quietly dismantles teams. We have stop the Sun and Nuggets at almost every pass and they absolutely HATE us.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Manu is a 3 time champ
but I see your point
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Touche. I thought of that while writing it, but i was talking about both Tim and Manu, so i kept it at 4. :-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Im actually very objective and am more than happy to have a factual conversation. Please understand that my questions and statements are completely unemotional and without malice.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Spurs fans here. Objectivity goes both ways.
Manu flops. So do 90% of players. Scola flops. Kevin Martin gets the same kind of treatment from the refs than Manu ie: he is the one who initiates contact on offense and gets the foul call.
That being said, I do understand why other fan bases hate Manu. His flops are more, let’s say “theatrical” than most and he’s been getting away with it for a long time.
As far as the Brooks injury goes, I highly doubt Manu intended to cause him harm. He was trying to make a play. It was unnecessary, I’ll give you that, but it wasn’t inherently dirty. It was unfortunate and it sucks how it turned out for Brooks, who would have gotten a contract extension and wouldn’t be in China right now. I don’t think it was dirty because it doesn’t fit with Manu’s character and on-court demeanor, but I can see how it can look that way for people that had a bad opinion of him going into the play.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Well said. For some reason, I dont remember that Brooks play.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your perception of his on-court demeanor
might be different from your rivals fanbase perception. This conversation is becoming dangerously close to the “gotta defend Kobe” conversations. I don’t care if you hate every player on my team. They have never done anything for you or your team. I hope you hate them. I hope you can’t stand the way Scola’s hair is, or how Kmart draws fouls. I respect a person’s ability to play ball well, which all of these guys in the NBA can, outside of Kwame Brown. However, if they don’t play for my team they can eat a dick. Make sports competitive again. Geez.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
I agree in the competition whole hearted, but “eat a dick”? Really? Lets just say have a good game and ball.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My vernacular is irrelevant.
My point was that I only care about the Rockets organization and their players. I reserve my indifference for the rest of the league.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Ah. I understand. I bleed silver and black. Have more Spurs memorbilia my place then you can imagine.
I will say that the only dark horses in the nba are maybe okc and the clippers, becuase i have nothingnagainst them. I will route for any team playing against La or Dallas thougth. :-)
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your perception of his on-court demeanor might be different from your rivals fanbase perception
I’m positive it is. And that’s why I understand the hate. When Manu draws an offensive foul, we are thinking “what a smart defensive play by Manu” and the rival’s fanbase is thinking “fucking flopper!” That I get, but the whole “he is a dirty player” escapes me, considering I can’t think of other instances when Manu was accused taking a cheap shot, much less actively trying to hurt someone.
Keeping sports competitive is one think. Actually hating someone and being happy he is hurt is another IMO. You said it better:
I don’t actually know Manu. He only exists in my world for entertainment. I could care less about the guy.“I hate” Goran Dragic for absolutely torching the Spurs on a playoff game but I don’t really hate him or wish him harm.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
if you haven't seen evidence of manu flopping in years
then your opinion should clearly be taken as unbiased
As i said, im more than happy to see evidence to the contray.
Its bloggisphere biased.
For example. Its like Democrats blaming the iraq war on squarely on Bush, when they all (clinton and Kerry) voted for it. Then the Democratic house and senate funded it 2006 even though they were voted in to end it. I could say the same about the right and the economy now too.
Its massive spin associated with malice. Ginobili used to flop, but was made the poster child due to the Spurs success and hatred from many of their opposing teams fans in the west while we were wining rings. If you youtube hate videos, there from suns, denver, kings, or laker fans about manu. Look on a larger level than just emotion you must.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nobody wants to look unpatriotic
and vote no when Bush and his “intel” claimed there were WMD’s and were somehow behind a huge plot against the US. Blame goes to the guy calling the shots, that’s just how it is. It comes with the territory of being Pres, getting the glory and blame. Same goes for Obama and any other president.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Google hiliary clinton iraq war vote.
Im just saying everyone agreed with the iraq war. Left and right. Cia included.
Its just the left that said that it is all on bush on the republicans, WHEN CONGRESS, votes to go to war.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Everyone agreed because they are politicians
not wanting to have any backlash. Not a fan of politics or politicians…so i’ll just leave it at that
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
politics are probably best avoided. I’m sure a moderator here will agree.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Its a good conversation and politics and sports are a great analogy.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Politics is best avoided among friends
Unless there’s a point to be made that doesn’t bash one side while promoting the other. Though generally politics are a little more important than sports. I get the analogy, but I think it’s best we stop this line of commentary here.
Spurs fans like Manu. Who knew?
Non-Spurs fans either like or dislike Manu. Wouldn’t have guessed.
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This is why i made points on both sides. War and the economy to defuse bashing. My point was to show that spin wasnt only limited to politics, but the NBA as well.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
To give you my take.
If you’re purely citing an example and not pushing agenda, I’m fine with comparisons but the conversation stops at comparisons, not discussions of politics since this is a sports site.
Lowry is pretty great.
SY, there’s not much sense in keeping this going, so let’s drop it, okay?
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by DrumsInTheDeep on Jan 11, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Rockets 98 - Spurs 95
Yesterdays game made me hate basketball for a short period of time.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
I felt dirty after watching it.
I mean “Crying Game-curled in the corner of the shower in the fetal position-dirty”.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
yay, given that you've not been wrong so far
i should go put $100 on this game right?
Thank god. you were finally wrong, Bonzo..took you long enough. Sheesh.
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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Rockets can pull it off
But I think the Spurs take this 99-94
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
I'm getting tired of having a team full of streaky players
And I’m sure DeJuan is gonna kill us tonight.
Both teams
Played their veterans a lot of minutes last night, the game will be decided by whose bench shows up to the game, so here’s hoping T-Will plays and proves me wrong. Spurs 90 – Rockets 87
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Jan 11, 2012 10:30 AM CST reply actions
I just read @ PTR
that TJ Ford is out, that gives us a chance… but I’ll stick to my prediction
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah. This hurts the Spurs. Other than Manu, TJ is our best ball distributer.
The Spurs 1st round pick fromTexas, Cory Joesph may be called up from the Toros to backup Tony Parker, or Gary Neal will be on the court a lot tonight.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Joseph is not a bad player.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
I agree. Did very well in his short play early for a very young rook.
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by Spurs Yoda on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
T-Will seems to have lost his place in the rotation to Bud and Parsons.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Which is still puzzling
One would think Williams(or Bud) could play SG and back up Martin. Seriously,sub Bud in for Martin and what’s the diff other than not running Lowry into the ground.
I can see Bud playing over Williams,but not playing Williams at all w/Lee out?(Mainly as a confidence thing,going from starting to not playing at all would kill Bud’s confidence once and for all.)
Either McHale is coaching scared,relying on the guys who have done it in the past,Williams really effed up again w/a new coaching staff or McHale has decided he needs 3pt shooters to surround Scola and Lowry. The offense has effectively devolved into get it to Luis and if not let Lowry drive and find an open 3pt shooter.
Bud is playing like shit
Williams gets after it when he’s out there and is always doing something to help. If Bud ain’t making shots he’s useless.
I hate david stern!
Re: Ginobili
Serves him right for what he did to AB last year.
Prediction: I think both teams will be shooting hot, tonight, and the Spurs will get a nice share of home calls. Scola is gonna go off. It’s a close one to call, but I’m gonna go with the Spurs.
Spurs 110-105 Rockets
by sohum on Jan 11, 2012 11:49 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hey guys. I’m a Spurs fan from Argentina, so you know I also always have one eye on Rockets games to see Scola doing tango on some unsuspecting stiff.
The incredible rise of Lowry has been great to watch. You got him for Rafer freaking Alston and a couple years later he’s about to join the NBA’s elite. The fact that he seems to bust his ass on-and-off the court makes it sweeter.
With both team being on a back-to-back this could be an ugly game but I’m hoping the
Spurs can pull it off. I’m expecting Scola, Martin and Lowry to be their awesome selfs, but is there any other guy that you think can go off tonight against the Spurs’ defense? I’m worried about Patrick Patterson myself.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Hello from Texas!
Patterson has had a rough go of it so far this season. He started off with an injury and is going through a sophomore slump, I guess. I think the expectations are a little high for him right now, but otherwise it’s too early to be bashing the guy.
The Rockets usually have someone have a decent game out of nowhere. Last night, it was a combo of Chandler Parsons and Jordan Hill. On other nights it could be Dragic or Lee (who’s injured). So I guess my answer is I don’t know, but just for kicks I’ll say that Chase Budinger has a good game tonight. I just have a feeling.
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I forgot about Budinger. He is a pretty strong candidate for the “random guys who torches the Spurs” award. I’m always afraid Dragic is going to go nova on us, especially since a rusty Gary Neal is probably going to play back up PG.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
Spurs 100-88
We’re one of the worst team in the league on the road, one win over an horrible Bobcats team is bot going to convince me thé opposite.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 11, 2012 1:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I never know the times of the games anymore
I have to double check everyday now. 7 30 tonight, almost missed the start yesterday.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions
Yeah
I’m going to have to start putting that in the previews. I don’t know how man other teams officially moved all non-Sunday games to 7pm local, but it doesn’t seem like many. I think the Bobcats were the first team we’d played this year that started at 7pm (their time, not ours).
I’ll keep an eye out from now on. Good looking out.
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No problem man
you guys always provide great write ups, just trying to contribute
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Did anybody see the pic of Yao with a Panda?
I can’t figure out how to put it on here..but it’s awesome
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM CST reply actions
Let's see...
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That did just make my day....
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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
How's it feel to know, TDS, that none of you will ever know this kind of bliss in your life.
That man is happier than any of us have ever felt because of that baby panda.
Pretty cool
To be frank. But I’m Armin.
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by ak2themax on Jan 11, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We have the better bench, yet McHale won't take advantage of it.
Martin played 42 (!!!) minutes last night with the flu, and Lowry played 41 with an injury…..
I don’t understand this team, at all.
Morey likes to have depth, yet his coaches never take advantage of it.
We’re supposed to be rebuilding to an extent, yet Hill only got 18 minutes last night when he should have gotten 28.
Martin and Scola are clearly in slumps, yet McHale doesn’t take them out. And when does take Martin out, he puts in Bud, who was really bad last night.
I understand that we were on 2 day’s rest before that game, but playing Lowry and Martin 40+ minutes, especially given their situations, was incredibly dumb, and the stats showed. Martin had 17 points on 19 shots, and turned the ball over 4 times. Lowry was 2-7 from the field, and although he had 8 asissts and 11 rebounds, he has 6 turnovers. Not necessarily a bad game for Lowry, but he shouldn’t have played 40 minutes.
I understand that T-Will’s been underperforming this year, but Bud’s been so damn inconsistent, and when he’s bad on offense, he doesn’t do anything else. At times, he tries on defense and does fairly well, but most times, he doesn’t. I’d like to see T-Will get a shot at the backup SF job with Bud being so streaky. He’s at least been knocking down his open shots, unlike Bud.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
I have an explanation!
3-6.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Our bench pretty much being outplayed by the opponents' bench every night.
Last night our bench averaged a +/- of -2 while our starting five averaged +17.
Vs OKC? +5 for the starters, -8 for the bench.
I’m still thinking that individually our bench player are great but for the moment they simply don’t fill well on the unit.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 11, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
SA takes this one 101-97...
but then the rockets win 11 of their next 12!!!
If you can feel them, they are real.
by jake_471 on Jan 11, 2012 3:26 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You deserve a prize if you're right about this.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Hello again, gentleman. For your viewing pleasure, I shall now show you the scores.
.Bonzo-200
Rockets4LIFE-182
OJ ATM-172
ak2themax-163
sohum-163
BD34-156
RiiseRockets-153
Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic-151
craigj007-148
twinkilling0303-147
jake_471-144
dech-143
Dmo_Htx-139
bone31crusher-135
galicae-132
BuckeyeBob-127
Rocketsfanforbasketballreasons88-122
Camouflage14-123
Irish Trasher-122
johnsmith-118
jbars-117
Rockets7-117
steeler-hater-116
Mike Kerns-110
MeLioRate-110
Mellowman-110
AIDe2356-110
tunatango-110
VBG-108
mitmil22-103
ShookednShanghaied11-102
btrizzle25-100
Slackary-98
TWCIR-96
AllenOU-96
makinmajik-96
Bighaircut-96
TiEaB-96
Mannan Ali-96
Valiant1-96
chuckiepoo-96
Nike86-96
Christopher Dion Harris-96
f22a4bandit-96
arnold p-94
olivarezq1-92
Rockets78-92
Xiane-92
taylorrohrman-92
lucneguye92-92
As always, if I’ve screwed up, lemme know. And in response to your question, Rockets4LIFE, I saw that you fell behind 5 more because you didn’t get the bonus on the first Thunder game. Good luck everyone and go Rockets!!!
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 4:52 PM CST reply actions
And my prediction?
103-95 Spurs on the simple fact that I have been wrong almost every time so far, so I figure I’ll just hope I am wrong again!
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Alright, I'm out for the weekend so here are my next three predictions
Rockets 93 Spurs 89 – Spurs starters played long minutes last night, so did ours but for the most part ours arn’t 38.
Rockets 106 – Sac 99 – Thier defense isn’t great and our backcourt is better. Plus K-Mart usually likes to destroy them
Rockets 91 – Portland 101 Blazers start Gerald Wallace and Marcus Camby Rockets start Chandler Parsons and Sammy D.
by Camouflage14 on Jan 11, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks ahead of time, man! I'll put it down.
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm still not happy.
I never got to put in my Memphis prediction. >.<
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Sorry dude....
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
It's like in Fantasy Football when you don't check your lineup at 3:00 and Tony Romo doesn't play and you lose your Championship game.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Ouch...
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 12, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Damn man
I started two huge arguments on this post. I hope I don’t get banned. I wasn’t trying to.
I hate david stern!
So long as you didn't flip and attack someone personally, you're good.
Plus, trolling gets its considerations.
Seconded
And I wouldn’t necessarily say that you “started” either one.
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
In that case
How in the hell is since86 still allowed to post here?
I hate david stern!
by batman713 on Jan 11, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The whole thing escalated quickly. FWIW I always read The Dream Shake and I think this is a great blog.
"Deep down we all know that swagger comes hand in hand with insecurity. We strut not to convince competitors of our dominance; we strut to convince ourselves."
Matthew Powell
A Ron Burgandy reference! You are my friend now.
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
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