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Game 13: Rockets v. Wizards Game Thread

Tip off is set to begin soon and I don't see a thread up about the game. This is the game I should be at but due to financial constraints is not. The Rockets are looking to make it three straight against a Wizards team that for all intensive purposes is made inept by its coaching staff. The Wizards have the size advantage but the Rockets have cohesion and quality coaching. I'm really reaching to get to the word count limit to put this thing up, so I think you all should appreciate the effort I can marginally put into this. Make sure your predictions are in the preview thread if you want TCWHRO to count it.

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Indeed..in the East too.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

yea john wall is

OVERRATED

I wana say hi to my haters, stay on your job ;) Go Houston sports!!
david sperm.. you fugly tyrant
TJ Yates - DATruth DAFuture

by HB23 on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a pretty good player. He's just on a bad team. I like him, personaly

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

idk

hes got major talent but I just dont see him as a winner.. Iverson type player imo until I see differently

I wana say hi to my haters, stay on your job ;) Go Houston sports!!
david sperm.. you fugly tyrant
TJ Yates - DATruth DAFuture

by HB23 on Jan 16, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

This is from a massive position of ignorance.

John Wall is a fantastic point guard. The shame is his team is doing so poorly because he’s in his second year and was expected to immediately command the franchise amidst the Gilbert Arenas problem and now the team’s deterioration under Saunders. He still puts up pretty good numbers and puts work in. The Wizards are a team this board likes to comment on but no one here actually pays attention to them so I tend not to take most of what is said to mean much because unless you live in DC You don’t tend to follow the Wizards.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Financial constraints are a part of college life.

Hell, I receive 0 dollars in financial aid, so I know where you are at. I’m tired of sandwiches…

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Worst part is, everyone else has gotten their financial aid as of Friday of last week.

I am boned with the holiday, have to wait til Tuesday and I’m out of the house until about 5.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Sucks. I'm just waiting for each paycheck.

Thank god I live in the cheapest apartment block that exists downtown.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

The school can bite my ass.

I picked up a case I need to start pursuing on Friday and can’t afford my Con Law II Textbook, if they don’t want to get my money they can wait. It’s the bills I’m concerned about.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Just make it up as you go

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It's just history and I can snag the cases off Lexis.

Only problem for me is funding the travel to investigate this case. Worst part is I won’t ever get to see it to trial, that stuff takes forever.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

McGee is one lanky dude.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

That was a bad pass

"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris

by AlDe2356 on Jan 16, 2012 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

We need to slow down...get this game under control

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

Come on

it’s not a 100 meter dash, what’s the hurry?

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

Fantastic movie...if that's what your name refers to

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

I love the fact that it so grim, and yet so wonderfully colorful….and i hate the fact that i had to wait so long for it to come to the theater over here

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Where you from? And the battle scenes were just amazingly artistic.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Croatia

Off course the fact that young hot babes starred in it, made it even better

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow. Croatia. How did you become a Rockets fan?

I’m just curious, cause I never hear anything about the Rockets in Croatia..and hell yea to the women… they kick some serious ass and look fine doing it.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

The usual path

I hated the fact Jordan was so dominant (I always liked the underdogs), than Hakeem dominated, then Barkley joined him, that’s what sealed the deal for me

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome!! I'm afraid I'm too young to have those memories, but awesome that you saw them

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess i was lucky

The war was still raging over here, and my cousin kept feeding me with NBA magazines and videotapes, he was in Switzerland, and i had a VCR, a rare commodity over here at the time

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

That's really cool dude

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

kevin martin

is a very limited player, outside of his efficiency

I wana say hi to my haters, stay on your job ;) Go Houston sports!!
david sperm.. you fugly tyrant
TJ Yates - DATruth DAFuture

by HB23 on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

mao

parsons got another lol

I wana say hi to my haters, stay on your job ;) Go Houston sports!!
david sperm.. you fugly tyrant
TJ Yates - DATruth DAFuture

by HB23 on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

this time

he put nuts on mcghees forehead, back, and neck.. that felt good for me to see that

I wana say hi to my haters, stay on your job ;) Go Houston sports!!
david sperm.. you fugly tyrant
TJ Yates - DATruth DAFuture

by HB23 on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Parsons!!!! Go white dude!!!

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Nice dunk

"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris

by AlDe2356 on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Martin TO's : Check

Sammy goaltending : Check
Luis doing the job in the first : Check
Parsons tip-in : Check
Lowry near Triple-Double : In Progress

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

The one thing I've noticed, seeing all these other announcers,

is that ours may be really corny and sometimes irritating, but they actually act like they enjoy the game of basketball and are interesting.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Really wish we had Lee.

Martin just flat out sucks right now.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jan 16, 2012 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

yuuup

I wana say hi to my haters, stay on your job ;) Go Houston sports!!
david sperm.. you fugly tyrant
TJ Yates - DATruth DAFuture

by HB23 on Jan 16, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

oh, lee’s still out? Thought he was back tonight.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Son of a bitch, Blatche is back.

Didn’t include him in the preview because he was questionable.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:30 PM CST reply actions  

Nothing needs to be said about Blatche,

except he takes horrible shots, and bitches about everything.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jan 16, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

But Rashard Lewis is out

"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris

by AlDe2356 on Jan 16, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

That news broke much later after my preview.

That’s the last time I give y’all one at 8AM Eastern, hah.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I absolutely hate this lineup

Dragic and Lowry in the backcourt with Parsons, Scola and Dalembert…I just don’t get it

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

Well at least.....

Nope, can’t find anything positive so far

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

we are winning?

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Scratch that.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really

i just found one positive thing

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Patterson needs to get touches down low.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jan 16, 2012 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

McGee should have been called for the goaltend twice now.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

That looked like volleyball out there. Where was Budinger for that??

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Damn you Crawford

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

Of course the guy with a TS% of 45% hits that.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

Okay, of course the guy with a 3pt% of under 30% hits that. That better?

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

that was a sick shot

"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris

by AlDe2356 on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

Suprisingly

we are just one point down, and we suck

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

This game is so ugly...

Wizards are playing like me in 2K : Iso and sometimes you got out for 3.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

My God I am not good at 2k12, I have been able to build a monster team, and I'm still not that good.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Block off the damn paint

geez…if you let your man just go to the basket, having weak side help doesn’t actually matter

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry my friend, you are all alone with the commoners here

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the American dream..to move up in the world through hard work

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

My American dream

includes Emma Stone and a couple of women from abroad

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

she purty

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I just know she's gotta be crazy in bed

she also seems like she’s easy to hang out with. Reese Witherspoon at the Golden Globes last night though…holy crap.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Missed it

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Another blech game so far...

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

Blatche

Another god given physical specimen, too bad his bball IQ is low low low…..and he’s lazy

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

Hit me with it. I trust you

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotcha

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

We still haven’t a possession in the 2nd quarter where they missed and we got the defensive rebound. This is embarassing.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 1:49 PM CST reply actions  

The Wizards take so many bad shots

if we just get the defensive rebounds, this game will quickly turn

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

I'm curious as to what the justification will be if the Rockets lose.

“1 game doesn’t matter.”
“The Wizards are still bad.”
“We had great advanced stats.”
“The refs hate us.”
“The Wizards got a win they didn’t deserve.”

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

BD jinxed us. That's mine.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Kevin, stop resting the Starting Five

We’re going to loose this one with the Second unit…

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

RR

Youre in France, right?

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Like the fact to not have to wake up at 2am to watch the game.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

You said it

My wife keeps saying i never wake up in the night because of her, only for the Rockets…

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You are French????

Guess I need to cut back on my French jokes. Except Tony Parker. I’ll always give him crap.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like Bud is recognizing what Parsons has been doing

get on the offensive glass. Bud has been playing well lately, thought he’d mail it in since he wasn’t starting

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

Bud!!!!

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

Wait, Darth Riley was once a Rockets?

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

Yea dude, drafted by us when we were in San Diego and was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys in the same year

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

How is Flip Saunders a coach in the NBA?

Seriously…I wanna know. I swear I could be a better coach than he is.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

Man, that stadium is empty. I swear, even Target Center wasn’t THAT bad last year.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

OR.

Je ne sais pas que tu dis.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Very nice

I took 6 years of Spanish and can’t complete many sentences

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh wow, that's really cool

I just could never get any language down. My AP test for college credit in Spanish was a tape they played of a guy speaking spanish. You had to write down everything in English…as soon as they played the tape the first time, I stood up and walked out. I know when I’m beat

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Hah, that's awesome. Defeat with dignity.

I wanna pick up Rosetta stone in Gaelic. Wouldn’t mind learning the language to go over and blend in in the West of Ireland.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish we had Rosetta Stone

everyone says it works really well. Probably better than watching Disney movies in Spanish and translating them (which is what my class consisted of)

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to go with the entirely online copy.

Macbook Airs have no CD Drives. Then again I also have to be smart about money, I do want to get my tattoo done up, if I’m lucky, when my girlfriend is visiting.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

All your posts

about how we should tank, or go young, or whatever you wanna call it…well it includes looking like the Wizards for couple of years. It sucks. And this wasn’t meant to provoke you or something, i totally understand your standpoint…i just heavily disagree

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

If they had a good coach

and a GM that knew how to get other players…might be a different story. Which is what a lot of people think could happen here.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You say looking like the Wizards for a couple years but I doubt it.

The Wizards are hamstrung by a bad coach and are loaded with talent. They employed the Bring Out Your Dead strategy (If you are unaware of what it is, I suggest you look it up) and it takes a while, the Rockets are not constrained to the same strategy. The shame in all of this is that you conflate the Rockets organization (Managerially) with the Wizards, which is just laughable and ignores every circumstance around it.

The fatal flaw this board makes is that they want the short term instant gratification and fail to see how that’s actually tanking the franchise far more than one bad season.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Arenas totally buttfu..ed them, just like Yao did to us

Both of those decisions were made by the FO.

You’re right, Wizards and Rockets would not be taking the same strategy, but the outcome would be the same.
I know, you wanna be a championship contender, mediocre teams don’t interest you, shit or get off the pot, etc.

And no i don’t wanna go into a discussion with you, you are to good of a lawyer to be, and a kind of douche (Parsons reference!!!)

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I just figure it's this easy.

This team would be better with a franchise guy. We can get one in the draft. That would separate us pretty well.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I see only one flaw in your plan

say we get the 5th pick in this draft. Teams before us select Davis, Jeremy Lamb, Barnes and Sullinger, and Drummond decides to stick one more year at Uconn. Those are the only ones you can count on to be franchise. so you given up any chance to be a contender to select another Martin, or Scola or Lowry

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Which of those three were selected top 5 in their draft class.

If one of those three were top 5 I’ll believe you, if not, forgive my apprehension. I have a general idea that could help get this franchise going and free up enough cap space to try to draw a Howard to Houston.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just sayin

You wanna put your eggs in one basket, and the basket doesn’t look too sturdy

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Better than putting your eggs in a basket you know sucks.

Like I’ve said before, way too many people here are terrified of the draft but ignore this club’s proven record for quality drafting with organizational stability and general quality. It seems like when the growing pains to be a contender are confronted people would rather sit here and be complacent as the also-ran.

My general take is just make a Godfather offer to Boston like Bill Simmons suggested then see how cheap you can make it. I was talking to a couple other writers about the idea:
Martin to Minny for Johnson and a 1st rounder (sense for both teams, both teams under the cap, can make it work).
Lowry and Scola to Boston for Rondo, Allen, and Jermaine O’Neal (Keeps the teams around even on paychecks, Rockets get expirings and a bona fide NBA recognized star who will draw talent, Boston gets a viable back up for their team and a guaranteed stud point guard).

Use the cap space to make a massive offer to Dwight Howard, would probably be bad enough to secure a top 10 pick, can easily flip the extra picks if need be if you’re not top 5, fill the roster out with other cheap signings, Rondo + top 5 pick + Howard on a massive contract and you retain guys like Hill and your youngsters, not too shabby overall, I think for a rebuilding team to flip fast.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

D12 will not sign for anybody not named LAL, DAL, NJN

Didn’t you say that yourself? (If you didn’t, just ignore that sentence) So he won’t sign for Rockets with Lowry, Martin, Scola, but the Rondo led Rocket draws him in? And didn’t you say on many occasions that we cannot get up higher on draft just because we wont to, but now off a sudden, we climb up easily….

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I have said Howard looks like a Laker/Knick/Net guy.

That mostly comes down to the draw of players. Market is huge, and Houston is a large market with no glamour but it’s worth angling because you at least have Rondo in place. To me, the flipping the picks is either to package guys together for someone else or trade out if you don’t have what you want. It’s tough to do and historically we suck at it.

My mentality on it is with Rondo, we at least offer a league recognized monster, with a top 5-10 pick we have someone to pair him with, and don’t field a shitty rebuilding roster along with over 20 million dollars of cap room.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

...other things are not likely to happen

I would really like to flip Martin for Johnson. Basically, with most of your moves i can agree with, but you are oversimplifying draft decisions, and Howard signing

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

For me it's mostly boat loads of money and options.

Stockpile attractive picks (Ours aren’t with our current roster, Minnesota’s is).

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Standing pat

isn’t an option, i agree with you on that, and moves will be made. We can go in either direction, at least that’s something to look for

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Lowry looks human today. This isn't right.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

Might be that ankle

but other players are stepping up a little bit

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The other players owe him after Portland.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Looked clean to me

Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713

by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That may be a goaltending

But to be fair Parsons does the same at least once a game.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Who did Martin bribe?

He’s getting to the line!

Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713

by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

He's actually slinging his vagina into the lane.

It helps that McGee is so block happy he’ll jump at most things.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

What??

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

ugh

no more 2 pm games plz

Go Rockets!

by Rockets7 on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

Conversation I'm having with a buddy of mine.

You think there’s a dating site for post-ops to meet up with each other?
Also, I can’t get over how it sounds like someone in my apartment complex is firing off heavy artillery.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry for lateness

Yea, go Rockets!

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 16, 2012 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

Box out anyone?

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

exactly

And if he was on our team no one would complain.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 16, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

not true.

I woulda like the 2 points but it would still be pointless to me.

by Dmo_Htx on Jan 16, 2012 2:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You solved the puzzle right there. It's a game.

Just like in football. Score a touchdown, have a 10 minute teaparty, I don’t care, your job is to play with a friggin’ ball for an hour.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever man

Lighten up. That kind of thing is fun to watch for most people. Don’t piss on the man’s parade.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha! I predicted there would be no defense in this game.

I figured we’d all just run up and down the court willy-nilly

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Actually Trevor was the one that introcuded JHill at high level basketball.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Did Lowry had a tech?

That would be our first of the season.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

He has

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

So, what is Dalembert’s nickname, anyways?

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

The Haitian Sensation.

Screw “THE BEAR!” cause that’s dumb as hell.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep but when you're excited

It’s easier to screm “THE BEAR” than “THE HAITIAN SENSATION”

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I just scream Sammy D.

Never watch a Rockets game while making love, by the way.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The Haitian Sensation, i thought

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It's so frustrating to watch guys like McGee

all the talent in the world, but no progression as a player.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

It's a psychological issue that primarily relates to his coaching.

He shows a lot of improvement as a player, it’s just when the wheels start to fall off for the team he goes with it. He needs to improve that toughness of mentality.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Blatche

Is another poster child of talent without will and learning

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Talking out of the ass.

He is having a a good game actually. And a good season.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Because of all of his gifts

not because of any fundamentals or understanding. He’s a good player always will be…potential to be as good as he wants

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Dalembert's requisite jumper

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

Dalembert is 6 for 6. Very interesting

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

Dammit Parsons

You have to pull the trigger there.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

I see what you did there.

Tebow, Florida, yea I see.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Call me a pussy for liking sportsmanship

But I like players helping guys from the other team up. When Dalembert clocked Wall earlier he was the first one to help Wall up and on that play Vessely helped Dalembert up.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Completely agree.

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I really agree

Last game I saw several guys pass Martin up before Budinger finally picked him up.

by ehburrus on Jan 16, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Lowry! Purty!

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

If we continue like that

We may be able to see Thabeet and T-Willy !

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

So, I'm thinking we get a Williams and Thabeet sighting today.

Once a skid starts for Washington they don’t believe in their coach enough to inspire them to give a shit.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

That's a really good thing

they’ve been playing a lot of minutes, need all the rest they can get

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yup

no doubt about it if we stay above 15

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Lowry with a wild little pass for the assist. I like it.

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

Early on this was frustrating

The Wiz were missing by so much we couldn’t even get boards with the long rebounds.. Cleaned that up a bit now

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

NO!!!

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

McGee can have that all night

Also the arena DJ is going nuts right now.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

Lowry/Martin

+21… only real disappointment this game is Dragic going deep in the negative territory again (and maybe T-Hill/Thabeet not getting run yet)

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

and if the wiz keep hitting ridiculous shots to keep it around 12 it may be even longer

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Watching on NBA package...

the Wiz announcers are pretty professional, I like them a lot. They deserve to watch better ball night-in and night-out

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

Elliott was beside himself when they called that change of possession in the 4th quarter this year because he had “no idea what they are calling”… You played for over 10 years in the league and had to have your producer whisper in your earpiece that it was a change of possession call? I mean, are you really that myopic or just plain stupid? NBA package has its downfall at times, and it’s on nights we play the Spurs.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Well..

So do the soles of my sneakers

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wiz creeping back

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

Yep

Gotta call the timeout now.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

We better not give this one away...

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

Could we find another play in the last 6 minutes of the game

high p&r with Scola seems to work about 25 percent of the time

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

They are getting everything on the break

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Jeez yall...

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Been watching the game...little distracted.

Getting close now.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

Heh heh

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I swear the clock has been moving slower than normal

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Great hands by Martin

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

actually

Parsons I think

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

We needed that

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

or maybe Martin actually

Whoever it was saved our bacon.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

That's wouldve been awesome

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen him dunk before.

At his camp a couple years ago…he could have dunked that.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, finally home and can enjoy the last 4 minutes of the game.

Lowry having a not so good game?

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Well stats said so

But we’ve been so much better with him on the floor.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Having a human game. Still good.

Contrast to most of his season, which has been inhuman.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

BANG!

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Lowry! You put them nails in that coffin

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

Martin’s passing has been really good today.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Pulled away in 2nd half

Then they started hitting ridiculous shots they couldn’t sustain. 1st half was competitive. Back to a bit of a lead now.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

McHale

must really have little faith in his 2nd unit… You can blame his rotation, but he’s tried multitudes of different line ups this year. Everyone just has their own least favorite.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

Parsons bringin the ball upcourt?

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

They were denying Lowry and Martin

He didn’t want to, but he had to.

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I said 103-99..I still have a chance!

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

If we play some superb defense, or course.

So…I don’t really have a chance. And i meant 113-98

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, there went mine

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

109-99 was mine.

Let’s not let either team score anymore and we’ll call it “close enough”

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be quite close

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

109-96 I think was mine.

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I love the fact

that we finally have a SF that can rebound

by Sucker Punch on Jan 16, 2012 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

Lowry just was tired of toying with the Wizards, so he came in and pawned them.

Minnesotan Rockets fan

by Barragan on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

Parsons

with another transition block. Now he’s no Batum, but I love his hustle… If we had more of that in transition we’d be ahead by 30 this game.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

He's not bad at this basketball thing

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I was impressed with his jumper too

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I was surprised by that myself.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

They baby him a bit too much

I’m not sure if it’s cause they’re down and NBA refs are just bad for every team minus 4 or 5, but a couple of the last ones on Parsons are phantom fouls if you look at the slow-mo

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Kyle Lowry is +22 in the +- department.

That’s crazy.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

Imagine if he'd played well

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Your team sucks.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

You play for the Wizards?

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by ak2themax on Jan 16, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

That's problem w/PGs who shoot

My pet basketball theory is if the PGs shooting,nobody else is.
The rest of the team starts standing around,making them slow to transition to D,and w/out touches losing focus.

by Tisbee on Jan 16, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh wow John Wall's stat line.

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Another win.

3 in a row, good things are coming.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

Well

when you are in the middle of the Western conference, you’ll be able to at least contend with the entire East minus a couple teams. And then if you can take care of the ones you’re supposed to and a few good West teams, you’ll probably sneak in to the 7th/8th spot.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

And keep spinning the tires as a franchise?

Also, this is a shortened season where we don’t play the same slate with Western Conference games having more weight.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see making the playoffs

as spinning the tires as a franchise…. Like I said, I know a lot of you want to be champions or utterly pathetic. I’d prefer to watch good ball every night with a chance and will to win.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

There's tons of factors to weigh.

Duration of “suffering” isn’t necessarily long.
Accepting mediocrity will keep you there.
The Rockets are a .500 ball club and that doesn’t move your franchise ahead or back.
I would rather see the Rockets taken seriously rather than be a dead franchise.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know how many times

I can say this, but a top draft pick is not a sure thing. In fact it’s almost a 50/50 proposition.

As a fan, I would much rather see a team beat the bad teams, compete against the good teams, and pull a few upsets.

The Grizz were perennial losers before last season, now some people have them as top 4 in the West. What changed? Just a first round upset of the Spurs.

Now I’m not saying we’re as talented as them, but you don’t ultimately have control over length of suffering, position in a lottery draft, who will be available or who will be an NBA superstar. Many “sure things” have led to franchise implosions.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares if the draft is not guaranteed. There are no guarantees in your life other than you will die.

Does that stop you from doing anything? It sure as shit doesn’t. I’m sorry to disappoint people but the BEST way for this team to get a franchise player to do anything with is to suck it up and get one in the draft. You can’t keep hiding behind uncertainty before you realize you’ve wasted the better portion of your life.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I've never enjoyed

the sports-as-a-metaphor-for-life analogies to be up front. It’s not a war, these guys aren’t soldiers, and it could easily be said that you’re hiding behind an uncertain future in hopes of being a dynasty via one draft pick. So who’s being unrealistic?

It is my belief that the team has enough talent to compete, which means they are a couple pieces away from contending in the West. I happen to believe that Lowry is a bona fide PG in the league and can carry some of that “superstar” burden for the team. If this were football, I’d franchise tag Lowry personally – we may disagree about that.

Yes, the BEST way for us to get a perpetual all-NBA 1st teamer is to have the 1st pick in the NBA draft. I don’t know if it’s earth-shattering to say that we have almost no statistical chance of that happening at this point.

I know you want to either win 65 or 6 games a year, but the tolerance there is far too wide to think that one player will make up that discrepancy. NBA players have pride, although it isn’t always apparent. They won’t tank this year, the guys think they can win, I’d say roll with the punches and just cheer for victories unless you want to be stuck in the dissatisfied fan section – which year-to-year is just about anyone who wants to win championships and doesn’t cheer for a team named the Patriots, Lakers, or Yankees

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You really need to stop trying to assume the attitude of win 65 or win 6.

My stance is simple. Houston’s best chance to retain a franchise player is through the draft. The Rockets do not have players available to attain one and that’s what we’re missing. To get the things we need to ever hope to be relevant, we need to draft it or pray someone is charitable and hands us something over. I think most people here would rather the Rockets compete for a title than stay stuck where they have been the last two years.

My stance is entirely realistic in that drafting is the best way to land your big name players if you’re not in LA or NYC and even then, the Lakers traded for the draft rights to Kobe Bryant. I think the issue here is I haven’t settled for mediocrity. We’ve been “two pieces away” for several years now, it ain’t happening the way we’ve been trying.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem is the shortage of big players

Everyone wants them including us. Right now Lowery is in the top 5 point guards in the league. He is an All-Star player..at least now. Martin has found some form and is in my opinion a would be All-Star snub. Good enough to make it, but won’t make it. We have a very good team that can compete with nearly any. We have a lot of youth which means some inexperience and add a new coach and there are a lot of issues to address. I think we have a good system.

I also believe that if teams came out with a 65 or 6 attitude it would make games very boring. Imagine teams competing to lose just for a better record. No thanks. Teams need the attitude win 65 or get close to get into the playoffs. Besides I don’t think we can compete with Washington in tanking the season. They also had a #1 draft pick that has not made them the threat they wanted to be. So how many seasons do teams need to tank to find their gem? Being uncompetitive is a bad business move.

by Gribbs on Jan 16, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

John Wall is in his second year, you're expecting a long term rebuilding team like the Wizards to be title contenders already?

Your point is only further laughable when you consider what is uncompetitive. Uncompetitive for what? If I’m a fan I would want a title, not a 9th place finish or maybe a 1st round playoff exit.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

As a fan...

I don’t want a Wizards season ever. Ever ever ever ever. 1st pick or not. The ROX have about the same chance at the number 4 pick as they do at the number 13 pick of getting a GREAT player.

65 or 6 is a hyperbole, but if you want to “rebuild through the draft” you better lose a whole lot of games. Not just win 30-35 in a typical year, but creep down in to the teens. No thank you. I don’t know about you personally, but there’d be a whole lot of people on this board to call for Morey’s, Alexander’s and McHale’s head if that happened. And in the meantime they’d be secretly pumping their fist as they get a new GM, coach and owner who will repeat the same mistakes of Christmas past.

“Not settling for mediocrity” is wanting to lose now so that in 5 years you can be a contender like the Wizards? Alright, count me out once again. Do you think I don’t want a title? I am just a realist that has the perspective of we have 30 teams in the league, and therefore a much less than 3% chance of winning a title (because it’s not just rolling dice, but you take in to account the team’s skill as well). Even if we got a John Wall, we COULD STILL BE 1-12.

It is “laughable” to think you know what competitive is when you think that it’s championship or bust. I want a team I can watch in May and June. So sorry for being a person that won’t mortgage my house for a boat that I may wreck on the Coronado shore next week.

It’s so frustrating to hear people say that they want to lose to bad teams. I’d give up on a franchise that did that, and I believe the average fan is more akin to me than to you. And I know for a fact that the management, players and coaches would never abide by that philosophy.

I believe in the past we had a #1 pick, I think you know who I’m talking about. Why didn’t we win a championship? Because it’s HARD. Every player wants to win, every fan SHOULD want to win. It’s not as simple as getting a #1, 2 or 3 pick to go from pretender to contender.

Get a steal in the middle of the first round, your chances of doing that and your chances of trying to lose, getting a draft pick, having a franchise guy available, having him develop in to a 1st team all-NBA player, and winning a championship are arguably the exact same.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 17, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

You really don't get it, do you?

More fans are akin to you, when it comes to the Rockets, only because mediocrity has become the accepted norm. People aren’t clamoring for relevance and titles like they were when Hakeem was here or Yao was here. Rockets fans are content to sneak into the 8th seed and start another 12 years of getting knocked out in the first and I ask you, where’s the fun in that? To know that every year teams will chomp at the bit to draw you in the first round because you’re just plain not good enough?

Your hypotheticals are all just paranoia and fear about irrelevance when I hate to burst your bubble but we already are irrelevant. It’s frustrating to hear people say we need a franchise player? It’s frustrating to see a fanbase so accepting of a team going nowhere.

Management doesn’t want to lose to win because Leslie is making a fair amount of money off people who have bought his bucket of pig shit he cause a strategy. The players would be frustrated losing but we need to bust up the team and distribute minutes better. As for fans, if we had a legitimate future I think they’d be fine with it, however, most fans are willing to say “The draft is uncertain.” then go back in their shells and accept the shitty team they have.

by BD34 on Jan 17, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure

what you think I don’t get…. It just so happens we disagree, but ad hominem probably feels better. Anyway, if you really have so many issues with the franchise and the fanbase for being optimistic about our current disposition, why do you cheer for and follow the rockets? Because in the mid-90s they were good? Because there was a lot of false hope when Yao was drafted with the FIRST pick?

Our argument is circular at this point, and it looks like the team isn’t going to abide by the BD34 master plan of rebuilding, so I’d just be happy we’re winning a few games like most fans and accept that your strategy is only the pipe dream of salty internet users. No franchise would ever tank like that to start a year. The ONLY tanking that really ever occurs is in the last quarter fraction of schedule and that is done by playing young guys. Another dirty secret is that the young guys still are trying to win at that point, and I’m from Minnesota, so I’ve seen the “tanking” strategy come back to bite a team on the arse more than once (including the Vikings this year, when we won a late-season game to put us out of the Luck sweepstakes).

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 17, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate to burst your bubble but you're where I was when I first got on here.

It’s always tempting to be a cocksure twat but eventually you gotta move with others and learn to relax. You can keep taking pot shots but that won’t get you far. If you want to know my history with this team, ask it, don’t be a dickhead about it. As for my thoughts on what the franchise should do, they’re that, my thoughts. You can feel free to discuss them and feel free to talk about the method to do so, but as it stands right now, no one has even asked me how to do it, they all just huff and puff and throw a hissy fit.

This will be my last response to you because I’m tired of reading your drivel.

by BD34 on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

But I realize

a lot of rox fans either want to be #1, 2, or 3 in the West or #1, 2, or 3 in the draft… So the margin for happiness for a lot of people is very narrow.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It's impressive how we're always at our opponent's level

If we’re playing Wizards/Bobcats, we sucks, if it’s the Blazers/Spurs, we’re good.

by RiiseRockets on Jan 16, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

I really didn't think

we sucked tonight… They made a run that was started by a very hard Blatche fade away, and then was compounded by 3 consecutive tough shots. We had a good 2nd half minus about 2 minutes. 1st half was just hard to rebound because they were missing by so much… we had position on most of the shots, but they were airballs or just clankers that got tipped around and fell in to a lay up for them.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't fall into the trap.

McHale did a good job not killing his starters today though, we should have a good shot tomorrow.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, Martin played 42.

That’s my bad.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

The rest of them got some pine time though

And honestly I don’t mind Martin playing a lot when he’s actually playing well and hustling on defense cause he hasn’t played well all year. Let him get some confidence back

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone think dalembert would be a decent fantasy pickup?

by btrizzle25 on Jan 16, 2012 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

I drafted him

he’s good for rebounds and blocks. Also shoots well from the free throw line, so he doesn’t hurt you with percentage.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmm

In the Second Half,McHale played Bud at SG w/Parsons the SF.
Something he should have done a couple of games ago IMO.

Realized during the game the Rockets could potentially field a Dragic,Bud,Parsons,Scola,Motie line-up if Motie comes over in March. They could go against the Lakers’ Blake,Kapono,Walton,McRoberts,Gasol.

by Tisbee on Jan 16, 2012 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

I think McHale

was hesitant to play Bud on the other team’s 2s until he showed a bit more effort defensively. Also, the 2 spot in the NBA has gotten a lot smaller in recent years with the combo guards, so the personnel has to be right at the right time of the game (that would be when subs come in for starters). All-in-all it will be nice to get Courtney Lee back

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 16, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

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