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Game 13 Recap: Rockets Survive Wall's Onslaught, Win 114-106

A clear pattern has emerged in the Rockets' young season: the Rockets are utterly reliant upon Kyle Lowry. Kyle Lowry has played only one truly human (rather than beastly) game this season (in the loss to Memphis), but this night was pretty human: 16 points (on 14 shots), 6 assists, and 5 rebounds is a typical half for Lowry this year, after all. But he +20 tonight, while Dragic was -19, and that was fairly typical, too. When Kyle is on the floor, the Rockets outplay their opponents, but with Lowry on the bench the Rockets are very poor (82games.net-- which is a few days behind but whatever -- rates the Rockets as +1.9 points with Lowry on the court and -13.6 without).

So while the Rockets likely have an advantage at every position of the court over the Wizards, they weren't able to walk to victory, and I think at least a lot of that was simply the result of Lowry playing less than 32 minutes. But Lowry needed the rest, and the other Rockets responded to the opportunity to play the Wizards with a few exceptional games.

Kevin Martin lead the charge, scoring 25 points on just 16 shots (10-of-10 from the line). This was vintage Speed Racer, and while it came against one of the leagues worst defenses, the Wizards are actually #9 in fouling on defense, so hopefully this (as well as the Portland game on Saturday) is a sign of things to come. With Lowry sitting more, Martin also took on more of a playmaker and facilitator role: his eight assists tied a career high (set in '09 against Denver).

Dalembert's recent emergence as something of a scorer is pretty surprising, not really because his point totals decent but rather because it's coming extremely efficiently: 20 points on just 11 shots today, while Martin and Lowry went to him for a few key plays down the stretch. While we've been talking a lot about Lowry's awesome play this season, Sammy Dalembert's play has also been exceptional, making the $7 million spent on him look even better.

Scola and Parsons both put in iffy offensive games, though Parsons continues to rebound well and play great defense (two blocked shots for the rookie small forward.... like I've said, Horry-like). The bench, however, played relatively poorly, and the Rockets' defense in the fourth quarter looked very poor. Most of that was Wall destroying the Rockets on the fast break, but fast break defense was something I thought we fixed about two weeks ago.

Overall, the Rockets played very good defense, though it should be noted that the Wizards are the worst offensive team in the league. The exception was their defense on Wall. Flip Saunders let Wall play for well over 40 minutes, and he practically willed the Wizards back in the game after the Rockets took what seemed to be an insurmountable 20 point lead in the third quarter.

He might very well have taken the game from the Rockets, but a few costly turnovers and poor shots in the final minutes of the game cemented a lead produced largely by Kyle Lowry's key play in the same quarter. Lowry hit a final three that virtually iced the game, and I guess we have to wonder how many times he can do that before getting the unnecessary "clutch" label.

All praise goes to (naturally) Kyle Lowry, even if this wasn't his best game. McHale made the right choice in sitting him more in this game, and Kevin Martin gave the sort of performance we need to see from him on a routine basis. The Rockets have now won their fourth game in their last five.

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wasnt pretty

but its a win

Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me

by Rockets7 on Jan 16, 2012 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

The results are basically as I expected

The Rockets will beat up on bad teams and lose to the good ones. A couple of quality wins, but mostly more of the same. 14th pick here we come!

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 6:33 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

unless we swing a trade....

never know eh?

Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me

by Rockets7 on Jan 16, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Ya

Except for that deal where they got Pau Gasol…

Check out The Dream Shake.

by Patrick Harrel on Jan 16, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Would trading Martin, Scola, Dragic,and getting back Gasol

make the team better? He’s a good player with size, but we’d still probably miss the playoffs.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it would. A lot.

Scola has decline a lot. Martin is struggling so far. Pau is actually playing really well; hurt by Kobe’s decision to outshoot everyone, though.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

He is actually attempting what he usually attempts, he is still the same old Gasol

He would make this team better, but not a lot better. After watching Martin this year, I would do that trade. but we still would be the 7th-8th seed. Nene and Him with Lowry would be better but w/e. Its in the past.

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by darwithabar on Jan 17, 2012 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Score, TDS decided to load for me.

The Rockets didn’t trade for Gasol. They were the parasite that hitched along and got a free meal out of the equation. The Hornets needed some return on investment for Paul and Houston offered to foot most of the bill with LA still delivering some goods. The Lakers didn’t trade Gasol and pieces for Scola, Martin, and Dragic, did they? The Lakers and Hornets wanted Paul for Odom and what not, Houston interjected wanting something too, that’s not a one on one deal, which we’ve only been able to do for minor pieces.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Really? It's revisionist that our players went to New Orleans and Pau is a Laker?

Or is the revision that the Rockets didn’t directly deal for Pau Gasol? Or is the revision in the fact that Houston was the third party facilitator rather than the initiator of a one on one deal? Tell me which part this is not factual and is a revisionist view.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The revision is that the Rockets players were somehow worthless or didn't amount to anything

The Hornets wanted them, the Rockets wanted Pau, the deal was done before being vetoed.

The Rockets’ players have value.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Players have value, just not to the parties that we want a player from.

Much in the same way toy cars have value to someone but to me they are value-less. The Hornets wanted some Rockets players and some Lakers players to send Paul to not Houston. It took more than just Houston players.

So again, please inform me as to what I said before that wasn’t a factual statement cause right now I’m not seeing it.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

BD, what you said wasn't nonfactual

It’s your interpretation of the events that is wrong. Your facts are fine; the conclusions you’re drawing from those facts are… very strange.

The fact that the Rockets didn’t swing a straight-up trade is irrelevant because three-way trades are possible. What you’re saying just doesn’t make any sense.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

To put it simply

you’re missing several links in your argument.

Basically, your argument is that the Rockets can’t make a significant trade because the significant trade they originally made doesn’t really count because it was a three-way deal. That doesn’t make any sense.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It makes perfect sense so long as you don't arbitrarily change the scope.

Three way trades are possible, generally more difficult to orchestrate. Pau Gasol has never played for the New Orleans Hornets, to my knowledge, nor did Lamar Odom play for the Houston Rockets either, nor did the Rockets acquire Chris Paul in that deal. Your point is substantially weakened by the fact that the deal to get Gasol to Houston required Lakers players and a Hornets player of great value to LA.

My point, as you misconstrue horribly, is that the Rockets in pulling a straight up trade with one other party did not occur.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

WTH does it matter if it's 2 teams or 5 teams?

if it’s straight up or if you’re a facilitator…

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by jake_471 on Jan 16, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

It matters a lot if you want to talk about value of your assets actually.

If you need to bring in multiple parties it means you don’t have enough to do it (Which only proves this franchise loves over-valuing its players) and that the difficulty of getting a deal done has been elevated. The assertion is the Rockets could trade whoever they want for something of use, my assertion is if not for the work of other teams the Rockets do not have that. The necessity of a 3rd party tends to prove that, I feel.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Looking at it from the Pao Gasol trade

Houston jumped in there and stole Pao away because Morey is a good GM. The Hornets looked at their options and decided they would rather have the deal from Houston than the deal from LA. There was no difference to LA where Pao went, nor did they care, the whole point was to get CP3, Pao was gone anyway. The Rockets pulled into a perfect situation because their Front Office is a good one and can offer more than a thin Laker’s team. And, for all the talk of straight up trades, don’t you think that if our talent was better than Pao, we would’ve done it straight up with only the Lakers?

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 16, 2012 7:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

it's like you've never heard of the trade machune

By your logic, the lakers didn’t have the assets to land cp3 but at the end of the day (sans stern meddling) they got him for the assets they offered. And the rox got pau for the assets they gave up. This is pretty straightforward.

To abstract, if I pay $3 for something and I get that thing, then that thing is worth $3, and by having $3, I have the assets to acquire that thing. It doesn’t matter what path that takes. I acquired thing A in exchange for thing B. It happened (sans stern). Pretending that thing B isn’t enough to get thing A when it fucking happened is the kind of shit that gets laughed out of court.

If you want to root for a shitty team so bad, write for a Wizards site. Maybe if they get 2 or
3 more #1 picks they can break .500. That would make them about as good as the team you want to gut.

by thatguyisgood on Jan 16, 2012 8:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Take a deep breath man.

As far as you saying what gets laughed out of court, this isn’t a case, so you’re in luck.

You grossly mischaracterized the nature of the transaction, since it was not Houston gave New Orleans 3 dollars and Los Angeles sold us Pau for 3 dollars.

LA didn’t have enough to do it alone and Houston didn’t have enough to do it alone, so they pooled their resources and did something. It’s the communal approach. Also, you can knock the Wizards all they want, it only proves your ignorance to what the situation really is there.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

pretend all you want

You say it is impossible for the rockets to get a superstar without going through the draft. The rockets did get a superstar without going through the draft (sans stern). It’s like arguing that Dirk can never win a championship. When grown adults act this illogicaly it is breathtaking. So pardon me for needing a moment.

by thatguyisgood on Jan 16, 2012 8:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

But you could not get A unless you traded

B to C and they traded a lot of D to E so A could go to you.

"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House

by mjdinhouston on Jan 16, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

most transactions you make involve CD&E

You give best buy a card. They get the credit card company involved who got a bank involved and once they’ve gotten what they actually want (cash) they give you a tv. But only a lawyer in training would pretend you didn’t get the tv from best buy.

by thatguyisgood on Jan 16, 2012 8:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You forget an added dimension

How much a team values a player is not always equal to their salary or desired contract. Rockets would have gotten the short end of the deal (loss of overall value) in the hopes of being able to sign someone else. That being said, the values might not add up and could (would) be over the initial assets given up.

The Rockets don’t win a championship every year not because we don’t have a superstar because there are plenty of teams with them that don’t win too. Did the Bulls win last year? How about the Thunder or Magic? The Lakers had a poor showing in the playoffs too and the Spurs got beat by Memphis.

/Rant over

by Gribbs on Jan 16, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

im getting in on this very late but maybe someone reads this

Our players have value but only for what they are. roll players. if you put them together with other pieces you can get something great. in this case NO was building a starting lineup. didn’t want Gasol because they had Okefor. add: PF scola, SG: Martin and Dragic as a backup PG and the Odom as a 3/4/5. Round that out with Landry, Ariza, Jack and Okafor and you have a well rounded and deep team. Thats why they had that value.

by BuckeyeBob on Jan 16, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't understand that logic

It was a three team deal, just because the Lakers didn’t want Martin, Scola, and Dragic for Gasol straight up doesn’t mean we can’t ever trade for anyone. The Grizzlies just got Marreese Speights for Xavier Henry and a second rounder. Just because they sent Henry to NO and NO conveyed a 2nd rounder to Philly doesn’t mean jack to me.

Check out The Dream Shake.

by Patrick Harrel on Jan 16, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm talking in the big fish perspective.

The Rockets only had enough to give New Orleans enough for LA to give us Pau, which pick that statement apart and you’ll see why it’s daft to assume we traded for Pau. Unless Pau Gasol was a Hornet secretly and I’m way off base.

I am talking the one on one trades we have done were Brooks to Phoenix for Dragic and a first, not exactly franchise altering.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Houston has picks, expirings, and contracts of great value

They have a couple players stashed in Europe as well as money to spend/cash considerations. They don’t have a second tier star player (Eric Gordon type) like the Clips did… but they do have an array of assets that several teams would covet.. whether it be players, contracts, picks, etc…

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by jake_471 on Jan 16, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

My hesitance really comes from what the actual value is for the landing places for players.

Cost trimming moves really are only in vogue with the Lakers dump of Odom on Dallas. Our picks haven’t been very useful to move up in the draft as evidenced by our standstill, so I am leery that we may have to go out and earn a great pick off a bad record. As for second tier stars, I think we have Kevin Martin who qualifies, then again it’s a question of market. The Rockets are hamstrung by the market for their players, the weakness of their picks (Mid 1sts), and I mentioned expiring deals earlier. Part of me really thinks nutting up and sinking this ship could actually do us a lot of good.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Will never happen

We are going to beat the conventional wisdom that one must tank to get better.
Mostly you can’t teach players how to win and give them the desire to win if you as an organization deliberately go out of your way to lose. Players don’t like it because it limits their ability to showcase their talents to make them worthy of a bigger contract. Fans don’t like it because it makes for crappy basketball. Most would rather see a 100% effort.
Owners don’t like it because they lose revenues.
GM’s don’t like it because even if they get a good draft choice you end up with the possibility of a dud pick or a Greg Odom.
Better to just try and win and let your player do their best. They might be worth more in trade that way.

"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House

by mjdinhouston on Jan 16, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

two things...

first i don’t think Lowry is going anywhere
and a couiple minutes ago you claimed Houston has NOTHING to offer in landing anything worth value without being a facilitator.

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by jake_471 on Jan 16, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I should have specified "without parting with Lowry."

I kind of operated from the belief that Lowry is considered an untouchable, to me, I kind of have a hope for a certain deal in mind that would give us huge swaths of cap space, enough to try to tempt Dwight Howard with an NBA Star on the roster already… If you’re interested I can try to explain it.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Howard will never come here

We are not even in the race for him. We can get along without him.

"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House

by mjdinhouston on Jan 16, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a slim chance for Howard IF

he and Deron Williams really want to team up.

Teams signs Lee to an extension.(Takes his cap hold from near $8mil to actual salary of $3.2mil+. But breaks “policy” of not extending players that aren’t All-Stars. If the Rockets extend Lee by Jan 25…)
Keeps Hill and options off Thabeet,Flynn,Williams.
Stretch buy-out of Sammy.
Mid-teens Knicks pick.
Leaves team some $15.5mil in Cap room,enough to sign a max FA.
Sign Deron Williams.
Sign-n-Trade Dwight for Lowry,Martin,Morris,Patterson and the 2013 First.(Better package than Nets,Clips and Mavs could offer. If I’m Orlando I don’t know if I’d take Bynum’s knees over this.)
Leaves:
Williams,Llull(Second Rd picks have nil cap hold)
Lee
Parsons,Bud
Scola,Hill
Howard,Motie
Knicks pick
$2.5mil MLE player that teams under cap can sign
whatever else Houston had to take(Richardson,Duhon,Davis for example)

by Tisbee on Jan 17, 2012 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

That's not even close to the pitch I had in mind that gets rid of a lot of the guess work.

Lowry, Scola, Lee for Rondo, Allen, O’Neal. (Massive expiring deals, get out of Scola’s contract, dodge the Lee conundrum and Lowry is gone in a give to get scenario).

Flip Martin for Wesley Johnson and a pick.

You have just gutted open ~35 million in cap room next summer, can probably get a decent draft pick off that roster, AND have a bona fide (NBA Recognized) superstar in Rondo to help draw talent in. Lowry is playing like a star but doesn’t get recognition for it.

by BD34 on Jan 17, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

i consider kyle the same...

unless OKC doesn’t think Westbrook is eventually worth a Rose type contract(his play is, his mindset isn’t’). If Westbrook isn’t in OKC’s future plans, I consider Houston(Lowry + something) a front-runner.

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by jake_471 on Jan 16, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats sad rite there

“They don’t have a second tier star player (Eric Gordon type) like the Clips did” The Rockets dont even have a 2nd tier star. And thats how I feel as well. The Rockets just have a bunch of guys out there playing basketball. Its not exciting or pretty, but its basketball.

"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey

by fanoflosingteams on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

let's rig the lottery balls

I think that’s more likely to happen

by NVP on Jan 16, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Losing Martin or Scola would make the team worse

and trading guys like Dragic, Williams or Lee won’t bring much back.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 16, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

What you said is true but we took to really good teams down to the wire and Atlanta is not a bad team.

Last year we made a habit of losing to the crappy teams. A young team will do exactly what the Rockets have done. But often they will play like the Wizards. So we should be encouraged by what we have seen but not satisfied.
Lowry is holding it together but this gives everyone time to find their game and their roles. Sammy D putting more points down the hole changes things too. In a good way. The good and the bad is that except for Kyle no one knows who is going to have a good game.
It is a more exciting team than I thought they would be. McHale has done a good job so far.

"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House

by mjdinhouston on Jan 16, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

but we really need to commit to one thing

go for championship or tank

Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me

by Rockets7 on Jan 16, 2012 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Im about to

tank out RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! jk

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 16, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

T.M.I.

I'm a household name... at my house.

Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.

My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.

by taylorrohrman on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

indeed

people underestimate how much selling would be required to get a really “good” pick. The whole team would have to be immediately gutted and replaced by shitmunchers. The more conventional gutting — selling Martin and Scola — would probably just grant the Rockets a pick between 7-10. That’s not what people are imagining when they think “tank.”

If you sell off Lowry, too, then okay. But there’s too much depth on the team to really fuck up the season without doing that.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Championship is the only goal.

Houston teams need to set the bar high. Fans need to support these teams and not be fair weather fans. Get out to Toyota Center and bring the roof down Tuesday.
I am from up north and had to wait over 40 years for my Red Sox to win a championship but I was there every year rooting my ass of for them. Now I have adopted the Rockets and goive them the same cheers and jeers when they deserve it but I always believe.

"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House

by mjdinhouston on Jan 16, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

You're a BoSox fan?

I used to be, my girlfriend wants me to be one again since she digs baseball but not hockey, football, and basketball (Gotta take on a 4th sport on my end, seriously?). I also love your approach, demand a title. We may disagree on how to go about getting the stuff for it but the end result should always be your eyes on the prize, however that path gets there.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

The Red Sox

should tank too… I mean they didn’t even make the playoffs this year. How can any fan of theirs be happy being the best team to not make the playoffs (just like the ROX)? I’m looking for them to be 0-25 by the time May rolls around. Right? How’s that for facetious? I like how you just openly admit you’re a total fairweather fan.

What fan doesn’t want to win a title? Seriously. What fans demand of their ownership to stockpile #1 picks for 3 years until they can make a title run, never making the baby step in the right direction? Fairweather ones.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

What's fairweather about wanting the team I support to be taken seriously or win a title?

The Sox are in an entirely different mechanism with no salary cap, therefore your point is comparing apples to pick up trucks. It’s not my fault you accepted being not good enough because .500 is good enough for you. As for fairweather, I’m a Bills, Sabres, and Rockets fan and have been for quite some time. You might want to delve into those things before you shoot your mouth off.

by BD34 on Jan 17, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't need to delve in to any of your personal life son

And I really don’t remember saying that .500 is “good enough for” me. But then again you don’t know what is fairweather about jumping ship on teams, and act as though the reason I’m calling you fairweather is because you cheer for us to be “taken seriously or win a title”, ludicrous… So, how would you understand the rest of my points?

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 17, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

When did I jump ship?

You’re clearly just trolling at this point, no need to take you seriously.

by BD34 on Jan 17, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm close to being a stalker here

So I’ll ignore my phone after this post, but if you support a team for years no matter what, you aren’t demanding a championship. It’s the fairweather fans who only root for winning teams that demand championships. The ‘true fans’ don’t demand anything other than not moving out of town, they support no matter what. It’s the cubs paradox. People like them so much that they never have to actually satisfy anyone.

by thatguyisgood on Jan 16, 2012 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, this was a good win

Wall had one of his “remember, I’m a ridiculously good player” games, but the Rockets still won. Good job.

by ehburrus on Jan 16, 2012 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

This second unit not playing well thing continues to baffle me

The talents are there, but just doesnt seem like they have much or any chemistry, and it’s weird because these guy has been around each other for at least a season already

by NVP on Jan 16, 2012 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

The struggles arn't that surprising

Jordan Hill is inconsistent and not great at much. Patterson is still recovering from his injury and a restricted shortened camp. Dragic isn’t the best playmaker and overdribbles because of it and Budinger continues to jack up jumpers from midrange and out rather than driving it in or slashing to he basket without the ball. Also unless Hill is on song the unit gets dominated in the paint on the boards and in scoring.

by Camouflage14 on Jan 16, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the lack of a real playmaker hurts.

Dragic is a good scorer, but he doesn’t have the court vision or passing skills of Lowry. Flynn isn’t really a replacement there.

I think putting Williams out there might help, actually.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know. Dragic always plays pretty well as a playmaker when he starts.

I don’t think the Dragic’s poor play off the bench is necessarily his fault. He usually plays beside Hill and Patterson, and because Hill hasn’t been so solid, Patterson is rusty, and Budinger has been playing passively he’s not able to make plays because they aren’t there.

by ehburrus on Jan 16, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Patterson is slowly getting back in shape

but just having him taking 16-18 footers is not ideal when his body is that wide. Budinger I think is more or less gotten used to be off ball, but unfortunately Dragic doesnt recognize his off-ball movements as well as Lowry. He has the offensive game, and being o the bench he should take more initiative

by NVP on Jan 16, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

No Lee

He really is a good defender so he can help hold a lead.

"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House

by mjdinhouston on Jan 16, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It's gotta be more than that

For example, our bench actually average about 18 rebounds a game, which is astounding. Granted it might have been padded by a couple big games and garbage times. However, it does not lead to more attempts, because the differential in bench field goal attempts is about 1.5 favoring the opponent. Why? because our bench turn it over about 5 times a game while the opponent bench only does it 3.6 times a game. We also draw very little fouls, in fact 3rd lowest in the league in opponent fouls on our bench unit

Part of it is defense, but Lee alone does not makes the defense better. Jordan Hill is currently one of the most frustrating players on the team right now with his inconsistencies in contribution. More importantly, the offense stalls so much when we go to the bench, the we almost always let teams back in, which we then ends up with the starters playing long minutes. It’s inexcusable for us to have a bench that gets outplayed most nights with that many young talent there, especially when practically the same group had success before. There had to be a way to better utilize the second unit

by NVP on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel like our second unit stall all season

Part of it is that McHale shuffles the deck almost nightly before, but i get the sense that we’re no longer a good transition bench, and has become quite bad at defending transitions. I’m not quite sure why, when i look at the group, they are clearly built to run

by NVP on Jan 16, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The usual second unit now (Lee is cleared for our next game by the way)

consists of what?
Dragic
<??>
Budinger
Patterson
Hill

Right? We’ve been shuffling around a Lowry/Dragic or Dragic/Martin 1/2 rotation, right? To me that’s a unit that’s not built to rebound or really defend much outside of Hill and his inconsistency needs to be solved. At least with Williams they had a guy who would rebound and dish the ball allowing Dragic to slide over to the 2 or fill in Williams at the 2 to bolster rebounding.

Just my observation really.

by BD34 on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

No I agree William should be inserted

In another post, I talked about T-will being more accustom and had most his success as a player with the ball in his hand, and with our second unit the way it is right now, we could use an additional playmaker.

Patterson and Hill are 2 of my concerns right now, I think both benefited from having the always solid chuck Hayes on the other side of them to clear space for rebounds, but now that they lost that security blanket, they kind of left to their own devices and still trying to adjust and define their roles

I think this lockout hurt our young guys the most

by NVP on Jan 16, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

These early game times throw me off...

Completely missed the game today. But its nice to see that they won, as I peruse this game recap for the details.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Jan 16, 2012 7:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

This Boston team has some big problems.

1) The bench
2) Rebounding (25th in defensive rebounding, 27th in offensive)
3) The starters sans Rondo and Allen

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 16, 2012 8:43 PM CST reply actions  

I watched the first quarter of the Lakers – Mavs game. So so terrible.

Pathetic basketball.

by VBG on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I watched the whole thing

Ugliest game I’ve seen on national television in a while. holy shit.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

We always talk about the Rockets depth adn that we have a lotta solid players but the bench has been terrible this year. It looks like the great bench was just Lowry making plays a coupla years back.

by VBG on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 AM CST reply actions  

it's kinda sad

That we spend the time after a win discussing what the Rockets aren’t. Look at what they are, a young, hungry team, that plays hard and together every game. Lowry is an all star, KMart is an excellent complimentary player, Scola is another great piece, dalembert has solidified the middle, and we have a ton of quality youth/depth. Would I like to have a superstar, sure, but there are a lot of teams with stars (golden state, sacto, washington, to name a few) that would trade rosters with us in a second. We have trade pieces, upcoming cap room, and draft picks. Why exactly are we complaining?

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 17, 2012 8:00 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

To just nitpick one or two points

Cousins is a piece to build around? Yeah to build a mental institution with no infrastructure around…

We’re not as irrelevant as you happen to believe. Other teams and fans don’t look at the Rockets with great fear, but they also don’t look at us and say if we don’t win by 20 we suck.

by AhForJustOneTime on Jan 17, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Cousins had this board's panties dripping two weeks ago, you're stretching.

As for irrelevance, no team fears us, no team respects us, as far as I’m concerned, that’s irrelevant. If you’re not convinced go look at how many nationally televised games we’ve had scheduled for the last two seasons (including this one).

by BD34 on Jan 17, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Alexander has been an owner for too many

years , and knows something about basketball. I was born and raised in Houston, so i see Alexander as the only owner to bring us a real championship. And after we won the first title he still made the move for Drexler and got us another one. His track record shows that he is not afraid to make a big trade to help the team, or spend. He knows to totally rebuild is not fool proof. They are called lottery picks for a reason because with the balls despite your record your pick number is in the air. Despite the roster before the trade deadline teams will have to make some choices, Orlando,Nets,Portland just to name a few. When it gets close to the deadline teams may be forced to make moves they may not want , just to end up getting something. And that is where we move in, we have players some teams would want, and the right trade could turn everything around. If we make a trade or not getting in the playoffs at a 7 or 8 seed is good for us. That of course means we improved because last year we did not make the playoffs. Anything can happen in th playoffs, but mainly it is good experience for the team.

by since86rocketsfan on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

Hey guys! I'm a regular over at the Battle Red Blog, but it's my first time posting here!

When McHale sits Lowry and plays Dragic, you can see a big difference in how the team plays. It starts with Dragic who plays very selfishly when he’s on the court. This rubs off on everyone leading to players taking bad shots and not creating for everyone.

Thats my take!

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by steelblue on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

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