New Year's 2012 Dream Links: Dan Gilbert is Trying to Trick You
Maybe you're tired of talking about this, but I'm not -- particularly when one of the NBA's whiny elite is trying to mislead fans. Tom Reed of the Cleveland Plains Dealer sat down with Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert last night before the Cavs' victory over the equally-hapless Nets last night. Mr. Gilbert had a lot of nothing to say, but he also took time to spew this crap from his mouth:
What did you think of your e-mail to Commissioner David Stern getting leaked to media outlets? "The lesson will be when you get off an airplane, check the Internet first before you go send off an e-mail. If I would’ve checked, I would’ve seen he made his decision hours before and I wouldn’t have had to send the e-mail. It’s a little disappointing someone would leak a personal e-mail. Owners are always making statements and having opinions between them and always sending things back and forth. It was unusual and shocked to see that in the media. I went to bed at midnight, someone sent me e-mail at 6:20, ‘Hey I saw your e-mail.’ One of you guys, actually. (Reed's note: It was me.) I thought I was having a dream. Unfortunately it wasn’t. The lesson for me was probably not to send out so many e-mails and check things before you send stuff out.
"But OaL," you say, "That doesn't seem like crap at all! All of those things are true!" And they are, my lovelies, I don't dispute that.
Read more after the jump because I'm not going to use pretty language and SBN and Yahoo! don't like it when we curse above the fold...
The issue is that this is classic misdirection. Dan Gilbert is making a statement about a highly controversial event -- that time he tried to influence the NBA Commissioner into blocking a trade because he doesn't like that Los Angeles is a bigger and more attractive city than Cleveland. In almost any reading of that event, Gilbert comes off as a petulant douche. Fortunately for Gilbert, there's a classic strategy employed by most accomplished debaters, politicians, and other craven types that is used in just this sort of situation: Don't actually address the situation at hand. Now, Gilbert is getting some help here from the reporter (old-media types love softball questions like "How did you feel when that horrible thing you did was revealed?" instead of "Why are you such a whiny asshole who is willing to kill the NBA to inflate your profit margin and spite Lebron James?" This is because most newspaper sports sections recognize that they are at the clubs' mercy when it comes to access; that isn't an issue for us and won't be until we finally get press credentials and I can ask questions like "What makes you such a stand-up guy?" to Daryl Morey), but that doesn't change the subtext of all of this: this is about THAT TRADE, THE ONE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, not about press leaks.
But, credit where credit is due, Gilbert is able to recognize Mr. Reed's Barbara Walters-like lob for what it is, and he makes the issue about some upstanding young Daniel Ellsburg rather than about the contents of the email. Classic move. Nixon-like. Bravo.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the actual issues. I don't care that owners talk to each other. I bet it's tough being a multi-billionaire, so you have to make friends with others like yourself just to make it through the day. But the contents of that email are what was alarming. The problem was that Gilbert was trying to get Stern to block the deal -- trying to lobby the League Office to stop a legitimate deal because it would hurt the feelings of guys like Dan Gilbert, Michael Jordan, and Robert Sarver. As it turned out, Gilbert's timing was off, and Stern had blocked the deal anyways, but the email revealed exactly how fucked up the NBA's decision-making is right now.
There need to be more hardball questions on this. We need more Woodwords and Bernsteins asking questions about what in the fuck the NBA is doing, not Diane Sawyers and soft-focus lenses. As little as it matters, I'm not going to forget what the NBA did. I'm not going to let the NBA's continued bullshit slide. The NBA has displayed enormous problems and an enormous capacity to lie to get its way over the past decade: witness Donaghy, the Seattle court case, and two lockouts, and more people need to be saying it. The sports media right now is totally in the pockets of team owners and organizations, but fortunately for us, we're too unimportant to buy off through access.
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Kyle Lowry is playing like the best point guard in the NBA right now, and Hardwood Paroxysm wonders if this is Kyle Lowry's true form. If you're a regular here (that is, if you've read anything on here in the past week) you know my answer to that, but here's Connor Huchton on the subject:
But 2010-2011 Kyle Lowry was the equivalent of Mike Bibby compared relatively to what we’ve seen thus far from 2011-2012 Kyle Lowry. The sterling defense we’ve come to expect Lowry is still expectedly there, but it’s now accompanied by the offense of a
young Oscar Robertsonelite PG. I’m not primarily focused on the statistics he’s created thus far, though they’re awe-inspiring (near triple-double numbers, a 35.2 PER). No, where Lowry has really improved is control and maintenance of the flow of an offense. Instead of searching constantly for a shift of role and learning how to run an offense, Lowry has progressed into a player initiating terrific ball movement and understanding of court positioning. Where he once chose the first option or simply kicked out the ball to Kevin Martin for a forced, difficult 3, Lowry is now seemingly capable of checking multiple options and finding the highest percentage option within an immediate time frame. This is an ability possessed by all great point guards, but not one associated with Lowry in the past. He delves fully into a defense, absorbs its spacing, and attacks with incredible intelligence.
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On the subject of point guards not named Kyle Lowry, Wages of Wins asks if Derrick Rose is really better than Chris Paul. If you know anything about how WoW's proprietary stat (WP48) is calculated, you can probably guess the answer. For what it's worth, I totally agree with them: Chris Paul was jobbed last year in MVP voting (just as he was in '08).
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BD34 says that he's starting to get excited about these Rockets (which is good, I encourage that feeling) because they've started out pretty well, given the schedule. This is something touched upon in Jason Friedman's Rockets.com interview with Golden God:
JCF: So it sounds like when you’re talking about just treading water for the first ten games, you’re probably not even talking about going .500; you’re talking about just trying to eek out three or four wins basically?
DM: If we go 5-5 we’ll be on pace for the playoffs for sure – that would be a very good result. Then 4-6 would probably be what a playoff team would do against this schedule. Even honestly – and we don’t want to do this – but 3-7 would be one we can recover from and still make the playoffs.
There's a lot of good stuff in here:
JCF: Correct me if I’m wrong but this is going to be your fifth year as General Manager, correct?
DM: I have no idea. It’s like dog years ...
JCF: (laughs) Well at least you haven’t gone grey yet …
DM: Yeah, I have! My son the other day was looking and found a grey hair and started crying because he thought I was going to die. That’s a true story. So I had to assure him that a couple grey hairs doesn’t mean I’m going to die.
Though Friedman needs to watch his words, lest he get smote by Morey:
JCF: You’re just teaching life lessons all over the place. Well the question I was getting to was this: What have you learned over the years, what can you point to, that shows that you’re a better GM now than you were when you first took the job?
DM: You ask such deep questions, Jason. I have one but I don’t know if I want to talk about it ...
JCF: Does it have anything to do with iPads?
Fortunately, Daryl Morey is a kind and benevolent Golden God.
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While I'm not tired of writing about how much the NBA's owners suck, I am a little tired of reading about how every foreign crazy-tall big man is "Nepal's/Finland's/Swaziland's Yao Ming." People seem to forget that (1) Yao Ming came from a country with an established basketball system (it wasn't great, and Yao's feet were undoubtedly hurt by the lesser quality of medical care in China as well as a lack of shoes in his size -- he apparently didn't get shoes in his size until his original tour of the USA as a teen -- but China had coaches and leagues that made Yao's development possible) and (2) Yao was more than just crazy-tall. He was a crazy-tall big man with a ridiculous shooting touch and very high basketball IQ.
Still, I get the point, and it's hard not to call Satnam Singh Bamara "India's Yao Ming." This story from ESPN's Mark Winegardner is a little patronizing and orientalistic towards its subjects, but it's a very interesting insight into an exciting basketball prospect, as well as the NBA's efforts to expand pro-basketball to all corners of the Earth:
Satnam and his teammates at the academy knew about the NBA, but not much. They had favorite players, but these were only the biggest stars. No one Satnam knew, not even his coaches, could have named 25 active players. No one could have named half the teams. No one had seen a game in person. Though a few games a year were broadcast live on cable at the crack of dawn, almost no one, Satnam included, had ever watched one from beginning to end. Certainly no one had any inkling that the NBA was about to launch an aggressive effort to partner with a few multinational corporations and build Indian basketball into a massive sacred cash cow. The target audience: Indians under 25. In other words, one of every 12 people on the face of the earth.
But Satnam and his teammates had spent countless hours watching clips on YouTube. And although no one from India has ever played in the NBA or even come remotely close, there wasn't a baller under the dim lights in that dingy gym who didn't try to ape the moves he'd seen online, who didn't imagine himself as Kobe or LeBron. For Satnam -- who dreamed of being Kobe -- hardly a day went by when someone didn't say something to him about Yao Ming, about becoming that one big star who ushers a nation of a billion strong onto the world's basketball court, the giant who becomes the catalyst for creating wealth beyond all imagining. The one who, maybe most important, single-handedly subverts pernicious stereotypes about his country's people and what they can do. No one said all of this, of course. Instead, it was always some variation of "the Yao Ming of India." Even for Indians who knew nothing about basketball, this reliably delivered the whole message.
And, just in case you think they were lying about him, here's a video about him:
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There's a pretty good post about the history of the Seattle Sonics over at Welcome to Loud City. The discussion there is interesting, as well. Don't call OKC a "backwater." It gets 'em all a-huffin' and a-puffin' and a-riiiillllled up (Yosemite Sam voice). Still, a very good post on what the Sonics' move means for the NBA and the Thunder is made by Zorgon B, the WtLC Manager, and I encourage everyone to read it:
Right now, the Chesapeake Energy Arena is brand new, and will complete renovations in 2013. By then, we’re looking at a 11 year old arena. I’m not saying the Ford Center isn’t adequate, because that’s exactly what it is. Adequate. Not state of the art. When talking to reporters about why the Ford Center was so much better than Key Arena, he said it was because the arena had a bigger "footprint" by almost two times, allowing for more potential expansion. Guess what? We’ve expanded it. And I’ll be damned if we don’t start talking about how we’re going to fund a new arena before 2020.
I know that 2020 seems like the dark side of the moon (I’m only 20 years old myself), but it’s going to come around sooner or later, and the NBA will use the opportunity to bleed us dry.
This is what the mid- and small-market towns don't seem to get: the current system doesn't allow for security outside of the majorest of markets. Does Houston qualify? I don't know. Houston is enormous, and the last time the Rockets threatened to leave was a pretty weak effort (Alexander's NBA-appointed "suitor" was Louisville, KY. That didn't make much sense, but then again neither did Nashville), so it seems unlikely. Besides, something has to give on this arena-building war.
Seriously, screw this business shit.
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Last, here's Michael Beasley reacting to finding his finger bone sticking out of his flesh (it's not graphic in the slightest, don't worry).
Great things about this video:
1) Rick Adelman looking like he is going to call a play or do something, then giving up.
2) Beasley doing the "owie" dance.
3) "OH SHIT... THAT'S MY BONE!"
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Keep this up, You hit a lot of buttons in this. Good job!
Man, the one thing that kills me about the NBA
is the import put on the percieved attractiveness of one city over the other as a defining factor. I mean, in the NFL people want to go to Wisconsin. Fucking Wisconsin? I have spent extensive time in L.A. and NY and they are both shitholes to me. I can honestly say I hate the shit Stern pulled because it hurt the Rox. For that Gilbert and the rest of his incompetent uber rich douchers can rot. However, I enjoy seeing LA slipping, not to say they still wouldn’t have with Paul. Great write up OaL, keep up the solid work.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
I really don't think it matters as much as peeps think it does.
It wasn’t that long ago that both Grant Hill and T-Mac signed in Orlando. That was huge.
The big thing is winning. It has always been winning. The Spurs convinced their stars to stay in San Antonio even though that city is certainly one of the NBA’s least-glamorous. Toronto is a cool place (literally hyuk hyuk hyuk), but they haven’t been able to keep anyone there ever. San Antonio is a well-run organization. Toronto is not.
Players wanted to play in Houston back when Yao was healthy and great. T-Mac was very happy coming here. Before that, Barkley and Pippen wanted to come here because of Hakeem. Houston is a great place and I love it dearly, but it’s hardly glamorous. What mattered was the organization and its obvious advantages.
BUT with all that said: it matters. See (and this was one of the points I was making back when the veto went down), the system the NBA has created favors “psychic” advantages rather than monetary ones. If you look at baseball, small market teams can keep their stars. Maybe not all of them (see Tampa Bay), but they can keep the best if they’re willing to pay. The Brewers can’t keep Prince Fielder, but they can keep Ryan Braun. They can do that primarily because they can offer whatever they want to them. So can the Yankees, but the Yankees don’t sign everyone, you’ll note.
Because of the limits on player salaries, the NBA’s system encourages situations like Miami. Why stay in Cleveland when Miami has so many more advantages?
But, and I want to stress this, Miami was attractive for more reasons than South Beach and weather. They had Dwayne Wade already, they signed Chris Bosh, and that meant LeBron had a big incentive to sign there. If Cleveland were ever able to put a better team together than Lebron+rebounders+Mo/Delonte, they would probably have kept Lebron. If they had set up their cap situation better, they might have been the ones to get Wade or Bosh.
More than anything else, it’s winning that matters.
I agree as well.
But chances of players trying to go to the Flint Tropics would be slim, win or not, which is a shame. I really think there should be more a team can offer to cancel out the extraneous variables. I definitely do not like the MLB because of how big money teams can poach players, and that would be worse in a league like the NBA with such a small pocket of elite talent. I hate the fact that championships have not been spread more among different teams, but it is what it is. I think there are monetary advantages that should have been added in to the CBA. However, I remember Chris Mannix on CNNSI noting this worried the LA’s and Boston’s of the NBA due to less player movement, which means they would have to actually build a team instead of Pau Gasol-ing their way to championships. I think players being able to force their way out or into a new contract before their present one expires is a big part of the problem, which dickbag owners had the opportunity to fix but didn’t.
Also, you make a good point about SA as opposed to Toronto. However, you have to look at the type of players that SA traditionally invests in. Not your typical athletic NBA diva. I think the present mentality of the average NBA star is that of someone not living on the same planet as the rest of us. As much as they are rivals, the organization has been smart about putting a classy product on the floor (outside of Manu Ginobitch). They fell into a good situation as well. Kinda like if the Colts get Luck this year, which happened to be the first off year they have had in forever (hmm, conspiracy?) Robinson was injured and along came Timmy. But I do understand what you are saying.
It is strange how obvious the incompetence in shitty NBA organizations are though. There seems to be no real motivation to change some of these team’s culture of losing and bad decisions, and then Stern wonders why the NBA is third place.
It all begs the question as to why they are able to do that? Is it because the average, casual NBA fan emphasizes “players they like” over their team? I mean, most of us that post on here can say we are somewhat dedicated, especially with having to put up with BD’s Jordan Hill homerism (your my boy BD, haha). But I would be foolish if I ignored the plethora o’ times I had asked a dude who his team was when we were talking ball and he told me he didn’t follow teams, just liked certain players. I can honestly say I have never heard that much in any other team sport, except maybe curling. Perhaps the NBA is aware of this fact and knows they can get away with doing shit like Stern and Gilbert did because many fans aren’t going to feel slighted since they don’t claim a team anyway?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
one day
I’ll be able to come to this site and not hear about that trade any more. One glorious day. How about we talk about anything else?
by chompin on Jan 2, 2012 8:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
If we let it lay
Stern boned us. The trick is, keeping it real without beating a dead horse. I thought you hit that mark quite well. When new facts come to the surface, it is relevant.
When will you guys realize that the guy can actually play
Stop letting your views on him personally effect the way you see him as a basketball player. The guy can still play.
I hate david stern!
Any rational person knows he can still play.
Showing dominance like that is something that won’t happen consistently and that’s being realistic, not being pessimistic. The same personal feeling impairing the way you see a player applies equally to you in regards to McGrady.
Superstar dominance no but T-Mac has been consistently good in every game so far.
by VBG on Jan 2, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
I watch the guy play and I call it like I see it.
Too many on this board downplay his play and still call him lazy even though it’s just a predetermined evaluation. That is my point. Sure it’s only a few games into the season but he was doing the same thing inn Detroit last season but nobody gave a damn because it was on a losing team. Can you tell me anything that I said that was just out of bias? No. I call it like I see it and I know you agree because you said yourself that he can still play. All I said was he can still play. Anything wrong with that?
I hate david stern!
I think we need to drop vendettas.
You need to separate out time sensitive statements from broad statements. If I say someone is a douche in a particular instance I’m not saying they’re a douche constantly. I think there is a lot of things that Houston fans need to let go of and animosity of McGrady is one of them but you trudge out that chip on your shoulder at the mere mention of his name and no one here was pissing on him in this thread or the write up I had and you jumped on this kind of thing.
The McGrady exit from Houston was along the same basic lines of his departures from Toronto and Orlando, take that as you will. He has been solid since leaving the Knicks and showing he can still survive as an intelligent player. He’s done well and I appreciate what Tracy has been able to do. The fact that he has resurrected his career as a point guard and can have some flare-ups (Herpes reference, yay!) of the old McGrady is fantastic and I think that’s all we need to say on the subject. He’s not a Rocket anymore (This is my stance on the board’s infatuation with Chuck and Adelman too) and we need to just get the shit over it.
I agree totally
on the matter of him being a former Rocket. As I said above in my post, I will never understand the casual NBA fans love of individual players. People like to say, “I hope so and so wins a ring” on another team. Blasphemers! The only players I care about are the ones who represent my chosen team. I give the team my loyalty and it (hopefully) rewards me with a championship so that I can turn around and talk shit to other teams fans. Symbiotic relationships fool!
In another words, I am a Rockets fan. I don’t care about former Rox unless they won a championship here or retired from here. Matt Maloney can suck a dick. Oh, and Gilbert is a douche and fuck David Stern.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
I don’t understand why I can’t be a fan of a player as well as the Rockets though.
The Rockets clearly come first for me but T-Mac is still my favorite current player in the NBA. And I feel like a lot of Rockets fans have a similar belief. Even though, T-Mac has left the Rockets, we’re still fans of his as well as the Rockets.
by VBG on Jan 3, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
I am mostly talking in regard to posts constantly talking about ex-players.
If it’s relevant to the Rockets, cool. If it’s people’s own individual man crushes, have those discussions on those individual’s fan sites.
I didn't know that was part of the TDS agreement.
I’ve see you talk about non-Rocket related topics plenty of times. Now you choose to react when we talk about something/someone you don’t like? C’mon BD that is very hypocritical.
I hate david stern!
You use that term a lot and I question if you have the application down.
I talk about non-Rockets stuff when conversation drifts in game threads. I am not saying any of it is part of the TDS agreement either (Nice red herring). I’m saying personally if a guy isn’t a member of the Rockets and you want to talk about him, why not talk about him on whatever team he’s on or on the fan sites of that player? This is a (current and retired) Houston Rockets site, isn’t it? I didn’t know we were also a Kings/Hawks/Whatever else board. That’s just my personal leaning, not an institutionalized one.
I use that term when I see it in action.
Fair enough BD. But don’t try to force your “personal leaning” on anyone. It’s not offending anybody and not breaking any rules. Besides, I don’t see anything wrong with talking about an ex-rocket on a rockets site. I don’t see you complain when people talk about Chuck Hayes.
I hate david stern!
Let me know when I tried taking my personal opinion and trying to make it policy.
I didn’t so your post is relatively baseless. Also, my personal feelings were stated broadly and I specifically included the Kings in my prior statement because of the Chuck Hayes thing too. There’s a lot of stuff where fans need to just nod their heads, wish people the best, and move on. They’re no longer relevant to this team until we play them and that’s my personal standard. Even with the trade that got axed, I typed my open letter for a reason and it got shoved off the front page from link dumps and the same articles re-done rather than try to get any form of grassroots thing going. It’s best to just learn the lesson and keep it in mind rather than chronically complain about it.
Fair enough BD
But I will call you out the moment I see you go against what you just said.
I hate david stern!
That you are
But we all slip up every now and then. I’m just one of those people that let people know when they act out of character.
I hate david stern!
We're a Rockets blog
but we spend a lot of time talking about the NBA.
I mean, if someone wants to talk about Atlanta’s weird ownership situation or whether Toronto or the Bobcats are the worst team in the league right now, I think that’s cool. Write a fanpost.
More than that, if you want to talk about Basketball in general I think that’s fine, too. Euro basketball is fascinating. NCAA basketball is pretty neat, too.
One of the purposes of these links posts is to provide a venue for discussion of non-rockets stuff, as well as rockets stuff.
And talking about T-Mac is great. I like T-Mac. I hope he does well. We can talk about what might have been with him and we can talk about how much better we would’ve been if he had been traded for Carter back in ’09. Whatever.
There is such a thing as off-topic posting, but as long as it (and more extra-topical material like non-Rockets stuff) doesn’t get out of hand, I don’t have a problem with it.
is there a shit-stiring policy
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Not as such.
More we know it when we see it.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
We're still talking about TMac???
He was awesome. No doubt about it. And he has enough bball IQ to be an effective player, even on a bum knee. But he should’ve been one of the greatest ever.
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 3, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
They can take his good games
between the games he’ll miss with his “bad back”.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Did Bill Clinton tell DMC to request a trade?

“I did not advise trade relations with that player, Mr. Cousins.”
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 2, 2012 9:25 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I'm sorry but the first I noticed was the colonel eyeballin cuz from behind focus
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 2, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Caption
“Hey DeMarcus, I told Tyreke and Thornton they weren’t shooting enough.”
by seanbergmanrules on Jan 2, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Caption 2
“Hey DeMarcus, see those two tools in the lavendar behind you? They said they want you to be the man-meat in a three way love burrito with em’. Oh, don’t give me that look. Your mine to pimp how I see fit. It’s not like you can demand a trade…Betsy.”
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Regarding Demarcus Cousins "situation"
Patterson comments and gets all philosophical:
When asked what his former teammate wants, Patterson said: "To be happy, just like everybody else…"
Patterson could be a key in this
If Cousins comes here. Lots of karma in play. It will be fun to watch.
Patterson said: "To be happy, just like everybody else…
…by playing for a coach who’s last name begins with a M and ends with a cHale."
Journalists never print the whole quote, assclowns.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
f'ing journalists
hahaha… you’re on a roll today. for some reason, i especially appreciated “….Betsy” in your previous post.
somebody needs to start feeding DeMarcus’s Twitter account with this stuff. In can only help our cause to instigate trouble.
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
Off topic here
But does Joe Johnson look almost exactly like Andre Johnson?
by TheDream34 on Jan 2, 2012 10:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Damn clones!
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Looks like Morris won't be in the rotation for a while
going to the D League tomorrow (Feigen tweet)
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 2, 2012 10:08 PM CST reply actions
Raptors over Knicks, 90-85.
You should be rooting for the knicks to suck but not that badly, btw. Ideally good enough to not get a top-5 pick but bad enough to get between there and #10.
What we really want is for Baron Davis to still be too fat to play once he recovers from his back injury.
Shortened season is gonna really hurt the Knicks.
Tyson Chandler doesn’t look much better than Kwame Brown right now
Chandler looks fine to me
Knicks’ main problem is total lack of guard play and that Amare is playing like shit/injured.
Looking at their stats
they’re really bizarre so far. They’re playing really slow, their defense sucks (so maybe Chandler isn’t doing as well as I thought… too many other problems for that to just be it, though), their offense isn’t any good.
Bad team so far. How the fuck is a D’Antoni team 20th in pace?
The Knicks have no flow in their offense
Their offense is basically just Melo and amare going 1 on 1. Kind of like last years heat team.
by TheDream34 on Jan 2, 2012 10:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because Melo will pound the hell out of the ball before jacking a long two.
Often.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Looks like a strained knee
No tear according to Z-Bo.
Check out The Dream Shake.
by Patrick Harrel on Jan 2, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
That's good for them.
They can pay Rudy Gay, Mike Conley and Marc Gasol whatever they like, none of those guys scare me. Only Randolph.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
dammit... what happened to Tankapalooza 2012 for the Rockets?
That’s what Spurs are doing. Exactly how they got Duncan.
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
You mean they broke Manu's hand on purpose?
Seriously, though, this year was looking like a real question for the Spurs before we got the insane post-lockout schedule. I watched Duncan the other night – he’s got no lift at all. GrungeDave pointed out that the Spurs couldn’t even count on his bankshot anymore, and he’s right.
If Duncan and Parker all somehow pull up lame then you’re on to something.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Spurs are too smart to be that obvious
But I bet they sign Brent Barry to a 10-day contract.
Man, I can’t imagine Tim Duncan without that bank shot… That’s like Monday mornings at work without internet porn.
Seriously though the contracted schedule is going to be especially rough on the Duncans and Amares of the world.
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 3, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
Glad to see that we've sent Marcus down to RGV.
He’ll get a ton of time at the 3 down there, which is exactly what he needs. He won’t be playing against NBA competition, but the important thing is that he’ll be guarding 3s. Guarding slightly smaller, more athletic wing players should help his defense out a lot. He has excellent footwork in the post on offense, and that usually translates to quick feet on defense.
He’s going to punish the 3s down there on offense for sure. Only thing I want him to focus on is his defense. Probably the biggest obstacle he has to overcome before he can consistently play the 3.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
If Satnav stops trying to dribble the basketball he might go ok.
I can imagine billions of illegal rockets merchandise coming out of the slums.

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Cuban is upset that the league didn't schedule a trip to Washington for the Mavs:
Cuban said he didn’t bother to call the league to complain, but rather asked team CEO Terdema Ussery to call the White House.
“There’s no point in calling them. It’s bull—— by the league not to schedule it,” Cuban said. “I figured I’d do it myself since the league wasn’t smart enough to figure it out. How can you be that stupid? All you’ve got to do is when you’re putting in the scheduling software, say Dallas at Washington, yes. They managed to get Dallas and Miami and all the games set on certain days.”
So, for the record:
- League not setting up convenient date with the President = “BULLSHIT BLARGABLARGABLARGA”
- League vetoing Chris Paul trade = “THANK YOU BASED STERN”

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