Why the Signing of Samuel Dalembert Turned the Rockets Fates in 2011-12
Quick, guess the two top centers in terms of PER in the Western Conference. Andrew Bynum and Marc Gasol, right? If it's not them, it has to be Tim Duncan and Nene then. It's Marcin Gortat and Samuel Dalembert?!?!?
Yes, the man the Rockets signed hours before tip-off on opening night has been one of the two most productive centers, statistically speaking, in the Western Conference. The man best known for being an overpaid big man in Philadelphia and Sacramento has been a complete revelation in a Rockets jersey.
December 21st, the night the Rockets agreed with Dalembert, changed their fortunes for this year at the very least.
As great as PER is to see how a player is performing statistically because it weighs rebounding, steals,points and other metrics of that ilk, it relies exclusively on box score statistics and is thus flawed. By looking at our friends at 82games.com's profile of Samuel Dalembert, we see that his impact extends much further than the box score alone.
As you can see, the Rockets are allowing over 11 fewer points and are scoring nearly 10 points more per 100 possessions with Dalembert on the court.
Part of the offensive improvements with his presence have to do with the personnel around him—Martin, Lowry, and Scola are arguably the team's three best offensive players and the bench has struggled to score—but his impact cannot be understated.
He has been known to chuck up a few too many long jumpers (a 27% FG% from 16-23 ft would support this assertion), but his ability to finish at the rim, whether on put backs or quick post-ups, has helped the team mightily. His ridiculous 75.5% FG% at the rim has made the Rockets much stronger in the paint.
Essentially, his improved scoring in the paint has fueled his turnaround from a year ago, one of the worst seasons in his career. Last year, Dalembert was at just 58.1% at the rim and 34.7% from 3-9 feet. With huge improvements in both this year, Dalembert has been able to shirk the label of "offensive liability" in his stretch as a Rocket.
While his unexpected offensive surge has been a pleasant surprise, Dalembert was brought in to play defense, and he has done so exceptionally. The ridiculous 11.1 points/100 possessions difference between his on-court and off-court splits is both huge praise to the work he has done in locking down the paint and an indictment of everything Jordan Hill is trying right now.
Dalembert has shut down the lane, slowing down penetration and swatting shots away at will. His length and athleticism have allowed him to intimidate guards in the paint into weak shots or bad passes, and his ability to guard in the post have made the Rockets much less susceptible to dominant post players. If Jordan Hill were the starter at center, things would be a disaster inside.
Rahat Huq of Red94 had a great breakdown the other day of how Dalembert can help the defense even when he isn't perfect. You should go read it if you haven't, but the gist of the article is that Dalembert's length allows him to make a few mistakes but still have time to recover and make a game saving play. Chuck Hayes was an incredible defender for a man of his size, but he had to be absolutely perfect or his attempts to draw charges would result in blocking fouls. Fortunately enough for Dalembert, he was afforded a 6'11" frame and can just go fly swatting instead of charge taking.
As nice as getting Pau Gasol and Nene to Houston, Dalembert has arguably outplayed both of these star big men with meaty contracts. Instead of committing $57 million over three years for Gasol or $67 million over five years for Nene, the Rockets got Dalembert for a two year deal worth $13.7 million and only guarantees him $8.5 million. That's value right there, and Dalembert is the reason the Rockets look like pretty decent bets to sneak into the playoffs this year.
If things aren't working out by the deadline, any team would be willing to give up a pretty decent haul for a center who's good for 10 and 10 with solid defense.
No matter what they do, he wants everyone to know that calling him "the bear" is a major no-no.
Stats courtesy of 82games.com and hoopdata.com.
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i think mchale has a lot to do with this turnaround
he is the big man-whisperer
Why isn't it working with Hill, Patterson, or Scola?
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
This is a very interesting question.
So, as Patrick points out, Dalembert’s efficiency is way up, largely on the strength of much-improved FG% around the rim.
If you look at the data, Dalembert’s total field goal attempts are down significantly, and his work around the rim is coming largely off of unassisted attempts. That’s interesting: it could mean that he’s taking more shots after backing down his defender and going to a post move, and we’ve seen a little bit of that this year, but it could also mean that a lot of his offense is based off of his (slightly-improved) offensive rebounding this year. From what I’ve seen, it’s probably mostly the latter. He has some moves in the post he uses, but a lot of his stuff is put-backs and dunks after getting the rebound.
Is that coaching? Maybe. It’s possible it could just be that Dalembert finally recognized his strengths and stopped fucking around on offense. It’s also possible that it was something McHale talked with him about. It’s also possible this is a momentary thing, and we’ll see the return of the old SamDam soon.
I’m more inclined to believe that this is something that just happened rather than attempting to explain it via the coach. It doesn’t take a genius coach to say, “Stop taking so many jump shots, Samuel, you suck at them,” after all.
I think the Rockets system and organizational philosophies deserve some credit. I think Carl Landry, despite being a very different player from Dalembert, is a good comparison; with the Rockets, Landry played within his limits, and perhaps more importantly, the Rockets created opportunities for him to flourish offensively through (almost exclusively at first) put-backs and dunks off backdoor cuts (etc). The Kings (who Dalembert played for last year and Landry was traded to) do an awful job getting players to play within their means and in creating opportunities for them to succeed when they do.
I think that’s a large part of why Landry looked so much more human after leaving the Rockets and Dalembert looks so much better since joining us.
Yopu are very wise!
Yes you are correct! Coaches & Guards have to create scoring opportunities for talented players like samuel Dalembert to succeed. We all know now that samuel Dalembert is a Baller, we know that. Tony Parket makes Tim Duncan a much better player by simplay getting him the ball in his high percentage areas.Steve Nash when he played with Amare Stoudemire made Amare a much more effective Center/Forward by simply getting him the ball in High percentage spots!
it's not just about point guards though
When Landry was here, Rafer Alston and then Aaron Brooks were our starting point guards. I think it’s as much about the Rockets general offensive philosophies.
well adelman's offense was very developed
not sure we can say the same about mchale’s offense, yet, but i think lowry bridges the gap.
You are what I call a hater
Give the man his shine. I mean he has singlehandedly made The Houston Rockets a better team and your dumb ass is looking for reasons to hate on the man. Samuel dalembert is actually a Center who is producing and getting better. There are alot of Centers in The NBA thats doing absolutely nothing and you’re in here hating on a man thats producing. Its either you’re a hater or an asshole.PICK ONE.
What, are you Dalembert's mom or something?
Since when is identifying why he’s playing better “hating” on him? Are we supposed to pretend it’s just some magical mysterious thing? Like he suddenly has .600+ true shooting because of his personality?
Please, keep posting. This is funny.
I think DBaller might be Samuel Dalembert himself
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Im not Samuel Dalembert
I wish I was a 7 foot Basketball dynamo like Same but unfortunately Im 6 ’2 and fat. I love basketball and When you get a Bigman that has naturally good basketball instincts like a Samuel Dalembert and plays with heart and wanna win you have to pay homage to him. So attack me if you may but I am fully qualified to protect myself.
Pay homage?
And why are you ripping people? Are you personally offended that that guy said he wasn’t a super stud at hitting shots from the outside? Few players that rebound and defend can shoot from the outside so it’s no issue in saying that a guy isn’t as good as Dirk at jacking the long ball. And seriously…PAY HOMAGE? He’s a freagin basketball player, not Jesus or someone on a throne. You need to get a grip dude. And quit insulting people.
by Corey Planchard on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
And fully qualified?
Seriously? You contradict yourself all over the place, you insult people randomly and without justification because you are “offended” for the player….sounds like a bag of retarded to me. A huge bag.
by Corey Planchard on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Be civil
We are talking Basketball here which is a competative sport. I like Sam Dalembert because he changed that whole team into a winner by simple playing hard and shitting down the pain and all the other shit he does is a bonus because Houston git him at discount prices. Dalembert is producing while many other bigmen are sitting on they asses colecting much more money than he is and they aint doing jack.
Shitting down the pain?
Not everyday you hear about an NBA player enjoying scat
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 22, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Just repeated what you said
I love basketball, but im into proofreading. ok?
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
So...
Calling people asshole and dumbass is….not profanity? You sir are hilarious.
by Corey Planchard on Jan 23, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
“This is why Dalembert is improved…”
“YOU’RE A HATER BLARGABLARGABLARG”
“What the fuck are you smoking?”
“BE CIVIL GODDAMMIT”
lol dude you're the one who started this shit by calling OAL a hater or an asshole
where’s the civility in that?
In all fairness, when everyone was calling me a hater and I reacted, everyone just accepted it.
Seems like the medicine is bitter when someone else has to take it.
Maireann croí éadrom i bhfad.
by BD34 on Jan 23, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
There's a huge difference between calling you a hater when you were constantly ragging on Martin
and saying I’m a hater when I’m just explaining why Dalembert is doing better this year.
That’s what’s so bizarre about this. The only critical thing I said about Dalembert was that he wasn’t nearly a good on offense last year because he took too many outside shots. Otherwise it’s all positive. And then this dude’s all “OMG YOU’RE A H8ER!!!”
I think you should be able to see the difference there, BD.
It’s not offensive. It’s just weird and annoying.
Just sayin', you're butthurt over being called a hater but it's ok when it's me.
It’s really telling and funny to watch <3
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by BD34 on Jan 23, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You Stupid
Everybody on The Houston Rockets or on any other NBA team will take a what you call a bad shot, and not every damn shot is gonna go in asshole. Samuel dalembert has proved that he can stick a 20 foot jumper if he has too. Thats another arsenal in his skillset. Not many 7 footers can stick a 20 foot jumper in The NBA at the level that Samuel Dalembert can and its all net! STOP HATING YO BECAUSE HATING IS A SICKNESS.
I love what Dalembert has done this season
but I think I’d prefer if he stayed away from 20 foot jumpers. I think I would literally prefer he hoist up three pointers. He’d only have to hit ~15% of this 2’s to get similar returns.
YOU HATING
HE CAN STICK IT FROM THERE NOTHING BUT NET YOU FUCKING HATER OMG WHAT A HATER
by Only_A_Lad on Jan 22, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Have we considered that SamDam is probably underutilized as a center?
He has an excellent handle. Why isn’t he playing all five positions?
Why don't you start?
You know, instead of coming in here screaming “hater” and calling peeps “stupid” for no reason. I’d take your “let’s be civil” shit a little more seriously if you didn’t write like that.
I’ll be clear: I’m getting tired of you. It was adorable at first, but right now it’s just annoying. The time for you to stop shitposting is now.
I never comment but I just had to this time
I find this entire conversation highly amusing. Actually made laugh out loud .
It is very delightful.
What with all the " hater " and " lets be civil bro " talk.
pattersons fine
just coming off injury
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
I think this is what was missing
from the previous post. What we do with the options next offseason will be impacted by signing Dalembert as much as anything else. I think he makes a few folks expendable and gives up options we sure did not have without him.
Samuel Dalembert has proved that he is worthy
The Houston Rockets got Samuel Dalembert at a discount price. There are not many centers in The NBA that can run the floor as fast as samuel Dalembert can and could defend the paint as well as Dalembert right now. Yao Ming was overrated abd ran the floor like a turtle and now you have a Center in Samuel Dalembert who runs like a Gazelle and lock up the paint better than any center in The NBA and folks want to complain? damn man.
Did he just say that he prefers Dalembert over Yao?
Did I read that right?
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
He's played great for 12 games...
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
by Corey Planchard on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I got trolled...
“runs like a gazelle”…nobody says that seriously for fear of sounding like a fairy…damnit, nice one man. Good laughs.
by Corey Planchard on Jan 23, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
If he keeps playing this well,
we’re going to get quite a few offers for him at the deadline, and I’d bet that contenders who need a center would be willing to overpay for him.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
That's what I'm looking forward to.
I’ve got a feeling about this deadline.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Whats this overpay?
Samuel Dalembert is a Marqee Center and he is worth every penny that his Agent can get for a Bigman that can do what he does. The Houston Rockets would have been doomed without Dalembert and being that he is playing well his stock is raising which means that he is deserving of any profit that he gets. Dalembert does have an ego like some. He is a Professional in his craft. He is a good example in the dressing room, and he plays hard. The NBA makes money due to new markets so Players are gonna make more monet whether your bitchass likes it or not! Where you gonna find a damn 7 fotter who can do what Samuel Dalembert does on a constant basis that can run faster than Sam? Stop plaing Games man.
Um,
I meant teams who need a center to contend would probably send a package of players/picks whose value surpasses Dalembert’s in order to get Dalembert.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
what would dalembert bring us back via trade?
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
Who knows
Kendrick Perkins was higher regarded than Dalembert but he got Jeff Green, Krstic, and a first last year.
Carl Landry was a vet big man with an expiring deal and he brought back a nice piece in Marcus Thornton and cash.
I’d hope for a young prospect and a pick, but it’d probably be a bit less than that.
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 22, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
wht kinda prospect
like a thorton maybe?
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
i dont mean him but a player around thortons skill
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
Sure
Someone of that ilk.
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 22, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Please!
Samuel Dalembert blocks shots and is a better defender than Kendrick Perkins. Samuel Dalembert run 10m faster than Kendrick Perkins on one leg. Do you even know Basketball?
Perkins is much younger and had the "championship shine"
He’s also a much better 1-on-1 defender. Perkins was seen as a long term addition while Dalembert is much more of a band-aid.
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 22, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Perkins Had Kevin Garnett
Perkins just lost a conciderable amount of weight You know why? because his first year with Okahoma he couldnt run the floor with Westbrook and Durant because he was too fat, so he knew he had to shed some pounds. Dalembert can run the floor faster than any other Center and he is a much better shot blocker than Perkins who is slow like a Koala bear.
In all fairness, Koalas (Not bears actually, it's a misnomer) are vicious little things.
Gotta tranquilize em’ before they can be handled.
Maireann croí éadrom i bhfad.
Perkins is also several (3 1/2) years younger than Dalembert
and I think you underestimate how much playing for (and winning a championship for) the Celtics causes players to become overrated.
We are just now seeing the benefits
of having a 7 footer again, so unless we get a better center in return we don’t trade him. Centers are hard to find, and with Scola’s defense we have to have him.If Patterson can get the rust off and return to last year form , him and Dalembert is a great defensive frountcourt. When we played the Kings last year Dalembert showed me he had alittle jumper, he always was active around the rim getting putbacks,and dunks,and also getting blocks and rebounds. I do not know if McHale can teach him a hook and maybe an up and under, or is his offensive skills to limited like Dikembe. He did a nice basline spin for a dunk the other night, and that plus his jumpshot is something Dikembe could never do.
by since86rocketsfan on Jan 22, 2012 6:48 PM CST reply actions
Skill Set!
Samuel Dalembert is a Strong Legitimate Center and yes he has a Jumper that is a addition to his Bigman skillset. If you have a Guard who can get you the ball in the right places Samuel Dalembert would be a more Dominant Center. When Samuel Dalembert played with Allen Iverson in Philly Iverson got him the ball in the spots that Sam liked. Your Guard have to do this or else you will get a dud for a Center! Samuel Dalembert is an agile Center, a very fast Center and very underrated.
Are you saying we don't have a guard that can get him the ball in the right places?
because if you are, I’d like to counter that by saying….Kyle Lowry. That is all
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Good point
Kevin Lowry can be selfish at times but if he plays with Dalembert enough it can easily be Lob City in Houston of they can work that one out man, seriously!
"Kevin Lowry"
this shit just gets better and better
by Only_A_Lad on Jan 22, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Magnificent
I wasn’t planning on reading all the comments, but wow. Couldn’t look away. Fun stuff.
by Slackary on Jan 23, 2012 12:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
what teams would most likely be interested?
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
The thing that jumps out at me about Sammy D
is that he’s a 4th quarter player. We’ve all seen K Mart, Scola and many other players shy away from the ball late in the game. Or if they get it, don’t know how to finish. Lowry and Sammy are ballers at the end of games, they just need some direction late in games. I’m overly impressed with what Dalembert has done in such a short period of time.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 22, 2012 7:24 PM CST reply actions
Excellant Comment
Samuel Dalembert is a Center thats hungry and he plays hungry and he is not arrogant and he has a full skillset! and yes he can stick a 20 foot jumper. Ive seen him do that time and time again. Just watch him play and watch his motives. The Man is highly overrated.
moves...underrated...
blah, this is getting old.
by Corey Planchard on Jan 23, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Uh...
As great as PER to see a quick glance at how a player is performing statistically because it weighs rebounding, steals, blocks, points, scoring efficiency, turnovers, and other metrics of that ilk, but in the end it is a flawed measure simply because it relies exclusively on box score statistics.
Is this a sentence? haha
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Quick!
Delete comment and edit!
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 22, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
Bigger question
Which mistake was the worst? Billy Cundiff’s, Kyle Williams’, or that “sentence”?
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 22, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tpBkAdD_Zw&feature=context&context=G266f018FAAAAAAAAAAA
hahaha
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
I'm not calling him the X-Factor.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Samuel Dalembert.
Sam Dam on occasions.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Enjoyed the write up
Thanks Patrick. Good to see some statistical evidence at how well Sam Slam-Dalambadingdong (no? No good?) is playing. I can see it when he’s on the court, but this speaks in a way Morey will appreciate. I do love the fact that he will foul some fools. We haven’t had an enforcer-type in a while. Back in the day everyone would do it (OT, Dream, MadMax, even Carl Herrera), but it’s a softer league in general these days.
The moment I was fully sold on Dalembert is when Griffin was playing volleyball on our goal after the whistle blew, then Sam got in his face and blocked the next shot. More than a game to him, it seems, and I like it!
And don’t worry ’bout the grammar and whatnot. Haters gonna hate! Haha
by Slackary on Jan 23, 2012 1:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Exactly
Explain to Tom that I was just taking some creative license, comparing the futility of words to the futility of evaluating players using just box score data.
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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of borderline all stars
Marcin Gortat is averaging a near double double with a field goal % of 59.9%
It’s too bad he chose to remain with the Magic back then, then magic foolishly traded him for Jason Richardson and Earl Clark.
I think we also need to attribute part of his success to the fact that Sammy D actually wants to be here and play for the Rockets. He could’ve gone ring chasing with the Heats or the Mavs, but he chose to have a bigger role with a young team like the Rockets. It might be a pride thing, it might be a financial thing, but the fact is this was his first choice and he’s playing hard to show it
Seeing just how well Sam is playing I wonder just how many…
… other teams now wish they had signed him when they had the chance?
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I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
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