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Game 17 Recap: Rockets Ride Lowry's Triple-Double, Defeat Rubio, Love 107-92

The Rockets wound up winners in a deceptively tough game against the Timberwolves at the Target Center tonight, pulling ahead late in the 3rd quarter for an eventual 107-92 victory.

Despite Kyle Lowry's usual brilliance and Kevin Martin's excellent shooting in the first half, this game may have turned on one important factor: coaching. Kevin McHale has drawn mixed reviews in his brief tenure, but tonight he may have out-coached future Hall of Famer Rick Adelman.

When the team was still in their typical state of malaise coming out of halftime, the Timberwolves took advantage and turned a 7 point deficit into a 5 point lead. Truly, the Timberwolves looked in control. Ricky Rubio was dishing assists behind his back, Kevin Love was knocking down uncontested three after uncontested three, and even Luke Ridnour managed to get in on the fun.

Meanwhile, the Rockets played volleyball in front of their basket to no avail. Instead of throwing his hands up and moping on the sideline like Von Wafer might do, McHale put on his try-hard pants and came up with a solution: he would summon the Dragon.

And as he has been liable to do in the past, Dragic led an impressive 19-1 run that put the Rockets in control for the rest of the game. He may not know how to run a half-court offense, but he put on a show tonight, pushing the ball and hitting tough shots in the paint. We can all wish that Dragic could have brought his 2011 shooting to 2012, but the version of him that showed up tonight was more than adequate.

Dragic wasn't alone in this dominant run; the small lineup of Dragic, Lee, Lowry, Parsons and Patterson (and later even smaller with Martin playing the "4") took apart the lackadaisical Timberwolves defense.

From there, Kyle Lowry messed around and got his triple-double, Kevin Martin padded his scoring stats, and Samuel Dalembert lounged on the bench and rested up. All was well in Rockets land. Well, except that Jordan Hill still sucks.

Patrick Patterson is beginning to have more good games than bad, still lacking the consistent "hops" he showed us his rookie year, but showing a slowly improving offensive game. If he develops his post game and gets tougher on the defensive glass, he'll be right back on the path to a starter role that we predicted last season.

On the other hand, Jordan Hill made no case for the Rockets to pick up his 2012-13 option. Remember when we wondered which young big man had a brighter future? Perhaps sticking Hill on a 350 lb monster wasn't the most prudent course of action, but Hill seemed completely lost once again. The Rockets have to give him some minutes unless they want to play extremely small with the bench group, but the front office'd best hope that this play is just a symptom of a player recovering from the flu. Wowza.

Also, I need to give Chandler Parsons a special shout out for tip dunking in a miss after a foul. I know that describing white guys as "high motor players" is just lazy scouting, but he is the definition of a high motor guy. Now, he just has to get a buzz cut and the general population will respect him about 40 times more.

In all seriousness, tonight was an enormous win for the Rockets. The Rockets' weaknesses were exposed once again, with a stretch four killing us and the team unable to score for six minutes, but to go on the road and beat a talented team like Minnesota is an accomplishment worth noting. With a cushy schedule to come, there's no reason why we can't keep this Chuckwagon rolling.

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Adelman knows Morey has liked Anthony Randolph and after not playing him for two games,gives him some run. Hmmm.

Kevin Martin has a really nice shooting game and Minn desperately needs a SG. Hmmm.

I’m sure it was all just a coincidence,still kinda amusing.

by Tisbee on Jan 23, 2012 10:24 PM CST reply actions  

I hope Randolph is the throw-in in that deal.

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by Tom Martin on Jan 23, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not willing to do a Randolph for Martin straight up.

We better get a draft pick too or something

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

or something?

I think all of y’all are severely underrating Martin’s value. Randolph used to be that intriguing prospect, but that shine has really faded in recent years. We’d need a major, major piece from them if we were to trade Martin. Not talking Wes Johnson, something more like Derrick Williams.

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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 23, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point

Quick – SGs better than Martin!

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Now - SGs better than Martin that might conceivably be traded!

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Monta Ellis is probably on the block

I could see teams valuing him higher than they do Martin.

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ellis is 30 shots for 30 points.

Martin is 15-20 shots for 30 points

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

indeed

Ellis is sitting right at .499 TS%. Dude is a classic overrated player.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Not saying i value him more

But he’s 2 years younger. More Consistent and doesn’t try to score by getting to the foul line. Some teams hate K Marts style of play I imagine as some Rockets fans do. If not don’t you think the kings could have gotten more than Carl Landry for him?

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I dont think acquiring Monta Ellis is Dumb

You just have to know what you are getting. He is a volume scorer and an undersized sg that is better suited for a Jason Terry type role instead of being your primary scorer.

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It'd be foolish for the King

Tyreke Evan is a zero guard, ball on hand is a requirement, he and Ellis would have to fight over shots. You make Eliis come off the bench, his production will drop unless you play him starter minutes

by NVP on Jan 24, 2012 6:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Carl Landry is also more valuable than people think.

But there were two things going on – Martin trying to share oxygen with Evans, which wouldn’t work because Evans kind of hates passing, and the rap on Martin was “always hurt” – which greatly lowered his value.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Landry is valuable to a winning team

He is not a starter in this league. He can be a great energy guy for a contender, but you are going nowhere with him starting. Don’t get me wrong, I was pissed when I found out we traded him.

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's actually a platoon player.

Not at 12 minute guy. Not a 37 minute guy. About 20-30 depending on the matchup. If you have a PF like Scola who works on the post, then you throw in Landry you can foul out a frontcourt. Their platoon made for one of the best PFs in the NBA.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I miss Landry fucking everyone up.

Remember in one of the Lakers playoff games, when he came into the game and the Lakers were on this big run and it looked like they might suddenly get back into it, and then he dunked seemingly from the free throw line over Gasol and Kobe was all like “Daaaaaamn” while watching from the scorer’s table?

I do.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that.

Landry was my favorite Rocket for quite some time. Almost no one was strong enough to hold him.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

He used to be our go-to guy in the 4th...

Man I miss him.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

The same way Boozer and Millsap worked together.

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 11:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

manu ginobili

/sarcasm

the only major stat that manu giflopoli leads martin in is rings.

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

would take martin over manu any day

younger, scores more, less injury prone, and entire game not based on drawing the foul. (game 7 wcf against dallas)

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

He has.

When he plays he’s usually the 2nd-3rd best SG in the NBA.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Kobe, Wade, Joe Johnson

I did this in my head yesterday while trying to fall asleep

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate to say it.

Johnson can shoot almost as well as Martin, and he’s a better defender who can produce in clutch time.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

His 3pt% far outshines Martin's this year.

But it’s fine, this argument is kind of stupid anyways.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I should digress a bit. He’s shooting about as well as Martin right now, but I think that’s because Martin’s gotten off to a very slow start. For his career, Joe Johnson’s very best seasons aren’t anywhere close to Martin’s average seasons.

So, yeah, I guess he can, if Martin sucks and Johnson plays really well.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

An advantage for Johnson

is his ability to get shots with little space. Martin’s moves start out at the 3 point line and are based on speed. Johnson is very good at getting to certain spots on the floor and shooting over the top. Don’t know if I’d like to have Johnson, but that’s what I think he brings to the table. Too big a contract though, obviously overpaid.

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 24, 2012 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

“His 3pt% far outshines Martin’s this year.”

But Martin is better on jump shots on Tuesdays with between 7:00 and 11:00 minutes left in the quarter, so it evens out.

by seanbergmanrules on Jan 24, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Joe Johnson could be had if you'd eat his contract.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's got what, 9 years left on it?

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That fucking deal

I’m convinced that the fact that we were still paying Maloney into the ’05 season is why Alexander brought in Morey as Asst. GM.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

So true.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

don't even say that

you’ll give me nightmares. Is there a worse contract in basketball than Joe Johnson?

by jack_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

not for a player

Kahn’s contract is likely more harmful to his team, however.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Rashard Lewis

says hi.

I'm a household name... at my house.

Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.

My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.

by taylorrohrman on Jan 24, 2012 12:26 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Rashard's contract expires after next year.

And it’s only partially guaranteed, anyways.

Johnson’s ridiculous contract is pretty easily the worst, though Kobe’s could very easily become very regret-worthy very quickly.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 24, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

30 mil at 35.

While putting up 21 ppg on 24 shots. And announcers continually saying, he’s no longer gonna out jump you, but he’s just so darn crafty!

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10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.

by taylorrohrman on Jan 24, 2012 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Manu isn't better than Martin.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

are you a closet spurs fan?

you’re on manu pretty hard. maybe it’s just my absolute loathing for manu and his soccer style of drama.

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 10:58 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Games Played: 5

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Still

He’s outperformed Martin every year, and he plays better D than him too. I’m a huge Martin supporter, but Manu’s better.

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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I compared career stats last year

and martin was ahead in most.

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 11:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

here we go trying to bring "facts" into the equation

real big of you patrick. I just hate him. that’s enough for me. lol

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I might be in the same boat.

It’s hard to make an objective case when you spend your life hating the guy.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I kinda hate him, and I still think he's better than Martin.

Except that he’s more fragile.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Manu is crazy good.

He was on a real tear until he broke his hand this year. Doesn’t take a spurs fan to know that.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Assuming health

It’s Wade, Manu, Kobe. Manu is a better, smarter basketball player than Kobe.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking11 is a solid example

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by bk219 on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I could see a Pekovic and Beasley for Martin Trade

Not a big fan of Beasley but he can pick up some scoring that we would lose in trading Martin. Lee slides into the starter role and Parsons becomes an energy guy off the bench. Pekovic is a more consistent option than Hill at this point. Bud, Hill, T-Will, and Dragic still here for another trade. Possibly Scola, Dragic, and Bud, probably have to throw in Patterson to Atl for J Smith. Might be enough to intrigue Dwight to sign here. Starting lineup of Lowry, Lee, Beasley, Smith, and Howard. Bench Flynn, Twill Morris, Hill, Parsons, and Pekovic. It’s a lot of speculation but it seems reasonable to me.

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 10:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I couldn't

Beasley’s been so pitifully bad this year and is just a generally un-Morey player.

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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

t-will was acused of being a dumbass

what gives there? more up side if you can curb his attitude?

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

there's a very interesting theory I read on CF

that was basically this:
The Rockets are run by a bunch of business guys. They know from economic theory that conditions of good competition are the most likely to create the “best” results. T-Will was acquired (and more wing players drafted and acquired via trade) so that the competition amongst the wings would be the greatest, and so the ones who rose to the top would be even better.

More likely, it’s because you’re allowed a few dumbasses, even if you like non-dumbasses.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I think its the latter.

Also, his potential was, and is, incredible. Also Rockets have a team of smart players, maybe you throw in one goofball and he learns? TWill isn’t stupid, that’s clear, he’s just a bonehead at times.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Morey likes three team trades

So he could turn beasley into another player that fits what he likes better

by wdh001 on Jan 23, 2012 11:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Just got back

It’s weird to see Wolves fans getting rowdy, but they were. They were absolutely talking shit to me when they had the 5 point lead, but I laughed right back at them.

The people besides me were completely freaking out about some skinny dude scoring like crazy, Patterson’s great, and I actually didn’t realize Lowry got his triple double – I thought he had gotten 9 rebounds until I went home. Hell of a game.

Oh, and Thabeet’s suit is even worse than his game.

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by Barragan on Jan 23, 2012 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

Glad you had a good time.

Was the Nellie Ball as funny as it looked – ie one guy over 6’9" on the court?

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

The Patterson at C lineup? Well, he did a far better job against Love than Scola so that’s all that really mattered from my perspective – after all, the Wolves don’t have a C, especially since Darko went back to playing like he normally does. The fact that Derrick didn’t wreck Martin in the post was something that puzzled me, but whatever.

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by Barragan on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet it works in 2k.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell yeah.

It helps that seemingly everyone on the Rockets is regarded as a three point threat by 2k.

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hell yea bro i love 2k

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by mitmil22 on Jan 24, 2012 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Wolves fans are ridiculous.

You should read their vs. Rockets match up preview.

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by Photomoney on Jan 23, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I posted some on their blog last year - they're really nice.

Also they’ll put up deeply snarky and sarcastic previews. Maybe this was one of those?

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Must have been.

I guess I just didn’t find it too funny ha.

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by Photomoney on Jan 23, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

All their previews done by Tim are like that.

It’s all for the fun of it.

A void? I see no void!

by gunsbound on Jan 24, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Also hmmm

After game,Lowry had very brief greeting w/Adelman. But he spent quite some time talking to Sikma,and both were smiling.

by Tisbee on Jan 23, 2012 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not going to lie..

I’ve been reading TDS for a couple of years now and have just recently begun posting. Aside from that, I have also just recently begun to read other SBN blogs on their view of how the match ups against the Rockets fair. To be quite honest, I found the T-Wolves’ preview to be completely ridiculous. They said that they win in every category. While some of that may have been sarcasm, it just seemed to be a complete waste of time to read. I’m glad the Rockets pulled it together on this win.

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by Photomoney on Jan 23, 2012 10:51 PM CST reply actions  

They always say that.

It’s kind of their thing.

It could be Darko vs Hakeem, they’d say “Darko by a mile!”

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to know for next time, that's for sure.

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by Photomoney on Jan 23, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Wolves fan here!

Since KG left town the Wolves have been so bad that we’ve resorted to gallows humor. The absurdity of saying Wes Johnson is going to outplay Dwyane Wade or Darko is going to top Dwight Howard has turned that negativity into a joke.

It’s been mentioned a few times this season that TimAllen’s going to run into some serious challenges with those previews as the Wolves get better. As it is, the unbridled positivity at the PG and PF positions are justified more often than not now, so the jokes there don’t pack the same punch as for the other three starting spots.

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by Cynical Jason on Jan 24, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

hell yeah lowry

he’s flirted with the 32 a few times already this season. glad he finally got his. I was part of the “oh my god, we traded brooks? I knew I shouldn’t have bought his jersey.” crowd last year. yes, there is egg on my face, but it tastes oh so sweet. as for martin, it’s almost like morey told him, hey, I know you’re pissed we tried to trade you. I know you want out. but if you keep sucking you’ll be here forever. great win.

by HTown80 on Jan 23, 2012 10:51 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

Parsons not only needs to shave his head

But he needs to find some acne treatment lol!!

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saw her without make-up

didn’t work as well as advertised

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Is it really her face that you were looking at?

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

unfortunately

it was a closeup of her face. therefore I was robbed of my birth right of seeing the rest of her.

by HTown80 on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Unsung hero award goes to...

Chandler Parsons. He had the highest +/- with a +18. Only 5 points but he had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals. This guy is the anti-Budinger in that he will contribute something if not scoring. I like the way the rook is playing.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

He really made a difference when he was on the court. High energy guy.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

He just has a very different style of play from Bud.

Bud catches a lot of shit, which is weird because streaky volume shooters usually get a lot of fans’ love.

He is what he is, and that’s not bad or anything. I’m very happy Parsons is starting over him, however. He does everything (at the very least) decently, which isn’t true of many role-players.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

hes really good

could imagin him turing into a battier leader type of vet (very early assumption)

by IrishThrasher on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Chandler Parsons is the unsung hero?

He gets tons of praise.

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by BD34 on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

And so it begins... he's on a path towards being the Tebow of the NBA

“NO ONE BELIEVED IN HIM! HE WAS DOUBTED FROM DAY -120!”
Meanwhile everyone has praised him since he was in high school.

The difference will be that Parsons plays modern basketball well, while Tebow only plays 1932-ish football well.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd go pre-Teddy Roosevelt on Tebow . . .

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by Cynical Jason on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I've never heard anyone threaten to McKinley someone.

Threats of abject imperialism are so hard to come by these days.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mon.

Tebow’s been trying to appeal to 50 states, while there are only 32 (? I don’t know, I don’t follow the NFL) teams. If that isn’t imperialism based on manifest destiny, I don’t know what is . . .

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by Cynical Jason on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

didn't read the game thread

did anyone make the ‘year of the dragon’ comment?

by thatguyisgood on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

yes

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

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by .Bonzo on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me be clear:

I hate Wes Johnson.

I hate Michael Beasley.

Do not want. Do not think they are good at all.

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by Tom Martin on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

To be fair,

I think it was Morey approaching Kahn with that stuff rather than Kahn approaching us.

Morey perhaps recognized that Kahn doesn’t totally understand Love’s value.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

He almost had him with Brooks, Clock Radio, 2nd rounder, Customer Van with Waterbed

And the Love went and had a great game.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Customer=Custom

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you on Michael Beasley

Pretty much with you on Wesley Johnson. Getting either of them would be pretty disappointing for Martin. Beasley especially.

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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 24, 2012 7:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Is Turner not looking like road kill this season?

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

correct. last year they didn't play the guy.

and when they did they didn’t give him a chance to do anything other than rebound. He’s young and can play. plus i love him/his character. im biased.

by BuckeyeBob on Jan 23, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

He seemed like a sure fire star.

Then they had last year. I haven’t really checked in this season.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Evan Turner is slowly becoming legit.

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by Tom Martin on Jan 23, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

only sure fire star that year was Wall

Turner and Wes Johnson both were questionable about translating their game, Turner especially due to the fact he was a late bloomer

by NVP on Jan 24, 2012 12:32 AM CST up reply actions  

He looks like a poor mans Brandon Roy. Very smart player. Not an exceptional athlete but somehow creates space.

by VBG on Jan 24, 2012 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I've been calling for that since last year.

Makes too much sense for both teams moving forward.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 24, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

This game....

sums up to me while Kyle should be the only completely untouchable Rocket. He took a 3 in the 4th and I knew it was going in, he was in on a ton of wolf turnovers, knocked heads with the bigs to get to rebounds, and though he didn’t score 40, he was one of the brightest spots on the team.

(to address the DWill for Lowry plus stuff post from earlier today) DWill just doesn’t hustle like this. You can argue that he’s a better player, but he checked out on his bad team… Lowry elevated his.

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

So Patrick

I think Parsons needs a buzz cut and an “eagle and flag” tattoo on his right arm. That’d probably be worth about $10 million to him.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

Going all Shockey would be too predictable.

He needs to adopt Artest’s persona. Now that RonRon Metta is trying to be a good citizen, we need someone to just be good old-fashioned insane.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that really Parson's though?

I mean, if he adopted some sort of Oscar Wilde persona I’d support that wholeheartedly. I think Dragic could do a Goth “King of Pain” thing really well. TWill seems like the obvious, perhaps too obvious, Ron Ron candidate.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The glue guy as effette, cosmopolitan poet would be wonderful.

Just a total change-up from all the “gritty” stuff.

The truth is that the best RonRon is Lowry, I think. Lowry perhaps isn’t quite as capable of doing something totally insane like going into the stands, but he plays with the same unrestrained emotion.

Maybe T-Will could be Stephen Jackson.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, there was one moment tonight where I thought

“You don’t want to do that Ricky. You don’t want to piss Kyle off, you really don’t. Go over and say sorry. Do it now.”

And Rubio, to his credit, did go over and say something.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I want to bring this up again, because it's annoying to me:

Bullard and Worrell talked about how great the crowd was at Target Center, and it really was pretty awesome. As someone pointed out in the comments section, the Rockets have the 2nd-worst attendance this year. A lot of that is because, yeah, the H-Tizzle is kind of apathetic about everything, but I think a lot of it is price.

Wolves’ seats start against the Lakers at $29. The Rockets’ “special price” against the fucking Wizards is the same.

Seriously, they have to lower the price on tickets. This shit is kind of ridiculous when you’re nowhere close to selling out on most nights.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 PM CST reply actions  

Are you guys looking at the Flash Seats site too?

You can sometimes get tickets really cheaply on it.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

oh, yeah, you can definitely get seats for cheaper

but as an obstacle to getting casual fans into the building, I think this is the Rockets’ biggest issue right now.

Have you seen what the Astros are doing? Intermixed with news about Warpig contemplating a name change (fuck that!), you’ll be able to get $45 club seats this season that come with $15 in waivers for free shit.

Rockets don’t need to do that, but, shit, I’ll go to a few ’stros games for that price for that level of seat. Besides, they could break a few records for awfulness next year, and I want to see that first hand.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll do that.

Changing the name is really aggravating. Houston has little enough history as it is. We don’t really need to gleefully tear down even team names, let alone historic buildings.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

good reason

Rumor was Les wasn’t in the hawkish camp, but good reason nonetheless.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 23, 2012 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually wouldn't figure Les for a big hawk.

But I was annoyed at all of them, and this is the one thing I can do that they will notice (in the abstract at least).

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by Xiane on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Well.

I did, and to be honest it hasn’t been regrettable. They’ve thrown a lot of incentives our way for “sticking around” and it’s whatever. I just want to watch them play you know? They can argue their petty differences so long as they give me a free hot dog here and there.

by andrewwax on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, they were throwing some nice benefits out there.

I’ll probably be back next season. I miss going to the games, but you know, I can’t say I’m sorry I’m not hearing “Seven Nation Army” riffs, or whatever, for a season.

Also, this year is so compressed there’s no way I could make my schedule work with the games anyway.

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by Xiane on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

ACTUALLY

I was surprised to hear they’ve thrown in a few new songs into the rotation. Equally let down that they’re mostly all by U2.

But you’re right about the schedule. If anything it’s helped me exercise my mental dexterity by coming up with new and creative ways to get out of work early/going in at all.

by andrewwax on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Some of it is the lack of a star

casual fans dont want to spend money to see a hodge podge of “assets”. TWolves were ranked 24th last year and 14th this year, why? because casual fans want to see Rubio. He’s really the only addition they made unless you count Williams. The Clippers were 14th and now they’re 6th. Maybe it was the addition of CP3. The Rockets will see an increase when they add someone the casual fans wants to see

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by fanoflosingteams on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe slightly

but I think casual fans want to see ESPN top 10 highlites to keep them on the edge of their seat. The Rockets are playing good basketball but they arent exciting or flashy. I watch them because I LOVE basketball. Ill watch HS basketball jus to see who’s goin where in college, to see who gets drafted in the NBA. When I watch the Rockets, Im not expecting a bunch of alley oops and flashy passes/dunks, Im goin to watch basketball, hopefully competitive basketball. I hate blowouts. But I think casual fans want “more for their money” They want to be entertained

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by fanoflosingteams on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm trying my hardest to show up to every game.

But high school you know? tough.

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by .Bonzo on Jan 24, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Go Warriors.

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by Xiane on Jan 23, 2012 11:49 PM CST reply actions  

The Grizzlies got lucky

not many 5-10 teams will win when the other team takes almost 3 times as many FT’s, I didn’t see the game and they could have been completely legit calls, but it doesn’t matter, not many teams can overcome that.

by Bobbythegreat on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

You crossed the Chuck out...I am sad now.

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by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM CST reply actions  

Hornets keep losing by 2.

Lost to us by 2, lost to the Mavs by 2, lost to SA tonight by 2.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 AM CST reply actions  

I bet Gordon can supply those 2 points for them.

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by Xiane on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

he's on my fantasy team

and on the “cant cut” list. He better get more than 2 points whenever he comes back.

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by fanoflosingteams on Jan 24, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey at least it's legit

I got Dirk, and he’s out for conditioning? WTF

by NVP on Jan 24, 2012 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I love gossipy shit
INSIDE THE ARENA: Glen Taylor, the owner who allowed Kevin McHale to make all of the Timberwolves’ personnel decisions for a decade, sat courtside in his usual seat, but he never approached McHale, or vice versa, to say hello. They haven’t spoken since McHale was fired by Wolves general manager David Kahn in 2009. … Several Rockets players came over to the Minnesota bench just before tipoff to shake hands with Wolves coach Rick Adelman, whose four-year stint as Houston’s coach ended last summer.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

just read on twitter...

That Pau Gasol is whining about how bad the Lakers are playing. This is the same man that didn’t want to come to the rockets because we were rebuilding…. Now look at which team has offensive cohesion, a better record, and getting better post play, the “rebuilding” rockets.

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

He longs for his old team

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