Game 20 Preview: New York Knicks vs. Houston Rockets
The Rockets put away a bad team! It only took two quarters to get their act together. The Knicks are struggling, but are still a decidedly better team than the Wizards. So too is my intramural basketball team. Just kidding, we're better than the Knicks, too.
Time to get serious. The Rockets have two more games on this homestead. Tonight it's the Knicks, and then it's the Timberwolves on Monday. Then the Rockets play 9 games in 15 days, with all but two coming on the road. It's vitally important that the team establish some momentum heading into this stretch, and wins over the Knicks and T-Wolves at home will certainly bolster the confidence of a team that hasn't generally played well on the road yet this season. Then again, no one has. It's almost like playing on your home court is an...advantage? Nah, couldn't be.
The Knicks are 7-12 and without Carmelo Anthony. Normally this would be great news, but if the Knicks run their offense through Amare it could spell trouble for the Rockets. Can Dalembert guard him? Can anyone? We'll see.
I've posted Rockets-Knicks Finals NBA on NBC intros before, so this is one from when the Knicks were in the Finals in 1999. And they had a guy named Houston, so it's relevant.
NBA Finals 1999 Intro Game 4 (via spurs2k6)
Matchups after the jump.
Matchups:
PG: Kyle Lowry vs. Toney Douglas:
Wherefore art thou, Lowry? And yes, I know "wherefore" mean "why," not "where," but we're going with it.
Our courageous court leader is in a funk. Not a full-blown slump, but certainly something's happened to his shot. Nevertheless, he's still hustling and making the plays he normally makes otherwise, so that's encouraging. Let's look at the Wizards game from yesterday, where Lowry went 9/5/4/3 on 1-7 shooting.
The five assists don't worry me. Assists are a tough stat to decipher anyway. I could pass you the ball on a fast break for a wide open layup, but if you miss it I don't get an assist. Or I could find a wide open shooter behind the three point line after breaking down the defense. A three is a difficult shot, even when you're wide open. But if you miss it, I get nada. What if you get fouled after I make a nice pass? I know the Rockets keep "half-assists" or "true assists" that count those, and I've always thought the NBA should look into it, too. But that's neither here nor there.
Rebounds are interesting with this Rockets team. McHale seems to have a "rebound-by-committee" approach, and it shows when Dalembert has 14 rebounds in the first half one game and then four total in the very next game. It's also evident when your backup point guard out-rebounds your starting small forward, center, and backup power forward. Remember at the beginning of the year when we asked, "Why are Scola's rebounds down?" I think it's a bit of fatigue certainly but also a bit of competition. Before, he was generally asked to be the board man for the team when he and Chuck Hayes were the big men. Now, it's everyone. And anybody can see that Lowry loves to get his own rebound so he can start the break immediately. But sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way. As long as we don't give up too many offensive rebounds, I don't care who leads the team in rebounds. It could be Jonny Flynn for all I care, though that's a different problem.
Finally, the shooting. Here's the root of the issue, but as long as Lowry keeps putting his body on the line and attacking the basket, he's going to get free throws. The Rockets took 30 free throws last night and the inability to get to the line has disappeared. Maybe it was the 800 writers talking about conspiracy theories that forced Stu Jackson to finally let the refs send the good guys to the line. Whatever it was, I'm happy it's back.
Advantage: Rockets
SG: Courtney Lee vs. Iman Shumpert:
Quick, what school did Courtney Lee attend?
Even quicker, which school did Shumpert attend?
Answers: Western Kentucky and Georgia Tech. And that's your random trivia for the day.
Advantage: Rockets
SF: Chandler Parsons vs. Landry Fields:
I really liked Fields out of college, and he started last year playing really well, too. Then the Carmelo trade kind of took him out of the offense. No Melo tonight means Fields should get his looks. However, this season his numbers have plummeted, and he's shooting 21% from three as opposed to the 39% he put up last season.
He also made this hilarious video:
Landry Fields as Modell's Employee Selling His Own Jersey (via GottaGo2Mos)
Advantage: Knicks
PF: Luis Scola vs. Amare Stoudemire:
I know Stoudemire hasn't play well this year by his standards. I also know that he usually torches the Rockets. I also remember that last year he still had decent games despite the fact that Chuck Hayes "shut him down" in the two matchups. I'm scared of Amare. Very scared.
Also, hello Luis Scola. I'm glad someone told you about the second half, and how it, you know, matters.
Advantage: Knicks
C: Samuel Dalembert vs. Tyson Chandler:
Defensive stalwart vs. defensive stalwart. Dunker vs. dunker. Jump shooter vs...guy who dunks.
Chandler reminds me a lot of the young Camby you saw in the video above. Always has.
Advantage: Even
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Bench/Role Players:
Knicks: Bill Walker, Jared Jeffries, Mike Bibby, Steve Novak
Rockets: Goran Dragic, Chase Budinger, Patrick Patterson, Jordan Hill
Advantage: Rockets
Injuries/Inactives:
Knicks: Carmelo Anthony
Rockets: Kevin Martin (yes, he's out-link)
Prediction: Rockets 99-94
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Gonna go Rockets 108 Knicks 104
Basically duplicating my Wizards prediction because damn it I’m going to stick with it. Also, the SG preview and the Landry Fields video were hilarious. Thank you for that.
Maireann croí éadrom i bhfad.
That Landry Fields video cracked my up last year
It still does now and will continue to forever.
A void? I see no void!
Yeah
I think I did put it up last year too but it’s just too funny.
Danny Woodhead did it too and was okay. Desean Jackson did it literally a few days after that punt return winner against the Giants so half the people recognized him immediately so it wasn’t as funny. Fields’ is the best though. Dude just seems really cool.
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Rockets win 112-98
If we want to make the playoffs we should win this.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
Is the Rockets making the playoffs some kind of moral victory?
I personally would rather they didn’t make the playoffs so they can keep their first round pick. I see no value to the Rockets just getting to the playoffs, they don’t have the team to go all the way or even deep in the playoffs this year, so what’s the point? To me it will do more good for the playoffs for the Rockets to not make the playoffs.
by Bobbythegreat on Jan 28, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If the Knicks stay as bad as they are
we’ll still get a lottery pick. i see what you’re saying, but a part of me would just rather go ahead and give up our 1st round pick to NJ in a year where we have another one to fall back on.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Making th playoffs will do one simple thing :
People will see you, media will talks about you and Free Agents may be interessed in you.
cf. Indiana Pacers.
And having the 14th or the 18th pick is not such of a difference.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 28, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
yes it would be good for us
because we become more noticed around the leauge, hey did you know the rockets made the playoffs? this helps get players to come here
Go Rockets!
"Our players knew we were going to win so kinda let up on defense." Kevin Mchale
"Screw Stern!" Me
It brings in revenue for Les and gets the fans interested in next year too
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I just want to watch them in the playoffs
no other real reason behind it, either way we are going to have to give up a pick in the next few years if we do make the playoffs, we can get it over with if we do, if we dont, then we have another ok pick.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
by Rockets4LIFE on Jan 28, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Rockets 105 – Knicks 98…
… Knicks have to keep losing and Houston needs to keep winning so the Rockets can get NY’s non-protected lottery pick…
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I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
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Dedicated to the "Pride of the Steelers"
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"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 10:12 AM CST reply actions
103-97
I haz 96 points? WIll roll back into contention over the balance of the season…
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
You can do it!!!
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Get'er done!
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
by Rockets4LIFE on Jan 28, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Second place!
Woohoo
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Number 6
Top 5 is so close, I can taste it
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
What does it taste like, then?
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Top 5?
Taste like you’re not good enough to be top 3.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 28, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Tastes like blueberry pancakes with maple syrup
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
That sounds fantastic...
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
It sounds fantastic
but then Bruce Willis runs off to find his watch, and while he’s gone you realize you can’t order the blueberry pancakes…they only have buttermilk.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yea. Prediction.
Rockets win 105-101
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 10:39 AM CST reply actions
not seeing your score on the list...are you that far ahead?
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I'm TCWIR on the list.
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the pregame, sir.
Nice job.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Always happy to oblige
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Don't know if anyone saw this
but Chris Sheridan has us giving up Hill, Thabeet, Flynn, Patterson and the NY 1st round pick in a potential trade for Chris Kaman.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 10:58 AM CST reply actions
That's his idea of what the Rockets
should do, not any indication of what (if anything) has been offered.
A potential lottery pick and prospect (P squared) for half a season of an injury-prone backup center? Way too much. Would rather just stick with Hill for that price.
I should've made that more clear
he’s just guessing, nothing was actually offered. My apologies
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
All of that for a backup C?
I don’t care about Hill, Hasheem and Flynn but P Squared AND NY first rounder since a lot, especially in such a deep draft.
Chris is not 2009-10 Kaman anymore.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 28, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah it's too much
his reasoning for mentioning Patterson was because the Hornets were insisting the Rockets put him in the deal when the CP3 trade was happening. I don’t think there’s any way they get PP or a 1st rounder from us.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Saw the article, he's saying that PPat is basically a throw-in
And that the real asset is NY 1st rounder.
Sir, we disagree here.
But if we replace NY 1st rounder or PPat by T-Willy, we may have a deal.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 28, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Kaman does have a big fat expiring contract though...
We are setting up for this summer…
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Does anybody know if we still have the 7mil trade exception or did it expire?
I know we did not use it but it no longer shows on Trade Machine site
We have it
It expires the day we did the Battier deal. I don’t know the date, but sometime in February.
Check out The Dream Shake.
by Patrick Harrel on Jan 28, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
FYI
ima be thurr tonight so if any1 gonna be thurr lmk…….me an my gal gonna be thurr……..burrr burrr……….el oh el
rockets 103- snicker bars 90
put a D*ck in ur ear and F*ck wat u hurd
Dur hur?
"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes
by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 28, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Can someone fill me in on the Grizzlies pick we got from the Thabeet deal
did we trade that pick to the T Wolves during the draft?
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 28, 2012 11:54 AM CST reply actions
And I'm glad he did
Having playing time in Euroligue is better for devellopement than being benched in the NBA or playing in the D-League.
by RiiseRockets on Jan 28, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Rockets win
102-91
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Rockets lose 109-99
I have to make a bold prediction once in a while or I’ll never take the lead
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
That's what I've been doing
But I like our chances on this one, Rockets win another ugly one 90-83
by Carlos_HoustonSportsFanatic on Jan 28, 2012 6:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
104-92 Rockets
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Jan 28, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions
posted this before seeing bonecruchers
now i feel a little dirty, lol
i've watched two knicks games this season
the xmas opener vs. boston, and last night’s game vs. miami. what i’ve gathered from those two games is unless carmelo anthony is mt. st. helens circa 1980, the knicks offense is awful to watch. they have no post game, no pick and roll ball handlers who put pressure on the opposing defense and everything looks forced and out-of-rhythm (with AND without melo).
that being said, they took a tough loss last night and made it rain from behind the arc. on one hand, they will come in to town having lost 8 of 9 and desperately wanting a win; this is especially important for stoudemire, who wants to prove his value with no melo on the court. on the other hand, they are the road team on the second night of a back to back, and like i said, they really suck at scoring this year (although their defense is much-improved).
I think the rockets will win this one, but it will be a tough and close win. 95-89 houston.
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
I don't feel comfortable picking the Rockets w/o Kmart
Whatever though, Rockets 107 – Knicks 104
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
I didn't realize this
But we’re number 6 in the west!! As Clyde Drexler always says, “I like it.”
by TheDream34 on Jan 28, 2012 2:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think we're actually tied for 8th with the Lakers.
If we win we should be tied for 4th with the Mavs, Spurs, and Blazers, though.
The playoff race is very, very tightly packed.
yeah +
la holds the tie breaker over us which would leave us out the current playoff picture
Wafer . . . again. (Marv Albert, HOU v. CLE Feb 2009)
-one of the FEW at Toyota Center who has the Wafer jersey
Rockets 101 Knickerbockers 84
No Jeremy Lin for the Knicks = Rockets victory (I miss that kid Harvard Boy)!
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
I'd probably be giving Lin more minutes than Bibby, Douglas
Sorta stupid that he can’t break into as weak of a rotation as New York’s.
Rockets 98 - 91
Let them hang around and then when we are all sweating it the Rockets will close it out.
Living in NY State means I usually get to see the Rockets play the Knicks but…
… because Time Warner Cable is in a dispute with MSG network over money, the channel is not unavailable.
And I can’t bring myself to shell out big bucks for League Pass, especially since I may be moving soon & can’t transfer the package.
So yeah, life sucks when it comes to the NBA for me…
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I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
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Dedicated to the "Pride of the Steelers"
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you can get league pass online
it might work there!
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
by Rockets4LIFE on Jan 28, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
100-95 Rockets in a dirty game
Can’t see the Rox really pulling away, but I also can’t see the Knicks having a FG percentage very high either.
Landry Fields!
Hottest rookie in the game! Yes he is! Tall dark and handsome!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
No K-Mart tonight
Wanted to beat the rush and say it first.
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
I'll go with
the Rockets. Although Fields is funny. 103-93
Absolutely hilarious
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
Lowey's going to kick some ass tonite.
looking at a triple-double.
don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!
I hope he has a big rebound game
We need him to actually hit shots one of these nights. Can’t play Washington every game.
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I have been talking to some Knicks fans and apparently
they think that they are about to turn it all around and dominate the East. I love the history of their rhetoric, “Just wait till the Knicks get Lebron James, they will be rolling” then “Just wait till the Knicks get Stat and Mello, they will be rolling” then “Just wait till the Knicks get CP3, they will be rolling” then “just wait till the Knicks get some for time to gel, they will be rolling” then “just wait till the Knicks get Deron Williams, they will be rolling” and now “Just wait till Baron Davis and Melo come back healthy, the Knicks will be rolling”
Hmmm...
Do you live in NY? Or are they crawling around H-town?
"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster
I was in the Army, I have
friends from all over, quite a few are from NY.
by Bobbythegreat on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Thats cool
I know Houston a diverse place, just thought you might have lived in NY
"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster
Oh I have at one point
I spent more time living outside of Boston though.
by Bobbythegreat on Jan 28, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Rox should try and put Stoudemire/Chandler in foul trouble
Backup bigmen are Jared Jeffries and Steve Novak. Yikes.
Jared Jefferies?
Are you trying to make their defense better?
Lol, It’s unlikely that they get into foul trouble first, the track record this season so far has been no fouls are ever committed on Houston players

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